Quote from: Diabolic on December 13, 2014, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: Diabolic on December 13, 2014, 08:06:15 AM

Quote from: dzimbeck on December 12, 2014, 10:53:15 PM

Quote from: Diabolic on December 12, 2014, 05:15:17 PM

Quote from: BlackIsBack on December 12, 2014, 04:59:40 PM

As I see this mess after a quick reading, in short:

Bob and his merry bunch got out with scammed BTCs, BTER got their transaction fees? while David has been left holding the BitBay bag.

You are quite wrong indeed. Here is the breakdown:

Step 1: Steve knew David for over one year, they decided to make coin together to helps pay for David's debt. Steven (Chinese) has connections to Bter.

Step 2: Clone BlackCoin and copy BlackHalo to get investors money.

Step 3: They contacted Bob and his team to make their plan a success.

Step 4: Try to "protect the partners involved" to hide the scheme created by Zimbeck. Maybe nobody will find out?

Step 5: Pump the price and exit with all the free BitBay. Bobs revelation has prevented David from unloading, but he still will and plans to (or has he already?).

To anyone keeping track, David has been clearly lying and doing anything to cover his tracks, misleading words, and deception. Nobody should feel bad for him. He is the ring leader here and now he's upset because Bob made faster "moves" on the chess board. Zimbeck, the FUD is real this time. You have implicated yourself and have been clearly deceptive over the entire process. Many were burned in this scheme, including all of Bob's puppets (gekko, investors, your supporters, and most of the shills here). Whenever you try to point the finger is when it is time to look in the mirror. The "grand chess master" has been exposed for his greed.

BULLSHIT

[11/3/2014 6:14:44 PM] crypto.gekko: a coin is just a coin without a good developer.
[11/3/2014 6:14:52 PM] David Zimbeck: not at all good for my reputation
[11/3/2014 6:15:24 PM] crypto.gekko: This is what an investor is banking his money on. Your skills.
[11/3/2014 6:15:36 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but somebody else profits
[11/3/2014 6:15:37 PM] crypto.gekko: Otherwise it's best to pay you for the work only.
[11/3/2014 6:15:39 PM] David Zimbeck: by using my name
[11/3/2014 6:15:51 PM] crypto.gekko: you are not the only one behind the coin.
[11/3/2014 6:16:04 PM] crypto.gekko: There will be an entire team behind you.
[11/3/2014 6:16:22 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but that doesnt matter in the ICO phase
[11/3/2014 6:16:33 PM] crypto.gekko: That doesn't make sense to me
[11/3/2014 6:16:34 PM] David Zimbeck: you guys can just make a lot of BTC off the hype
[11/3/2014 6:16:48 PM] crypto.gekko: we could, sure. but that's not what this is about
[11/3/2014 6:16:53 PM] David Zimbeck: yes it is
[11/3/2014 6:17:00 PM] crypto.gekko: im sorry to hear that
[11/3/2014 6:17:19 PM] David Zimbeck: my name was used in the past by another coin
[11/3/2014 6:17:33 PM] David Zimbeck: and it was just to profit off my name
[11/3/2014 6:17:43 PM] crypto.gekko: The goal is bring this coin into the top 10 marketcap. We have the money and connections to do that.
[11/3/2014 6:17:49 PM] David Zimbeck: those kind of things are bad for me if I ever decide to start my own coin
[11/3/2014 6:18:06 PM] crypto.gekko: I would personally like this to be your coin.
[11/3/2014 6:18:52 PM] David Zimbeck: ok so i can attach my name to the coin if i get the btc up front
[11/3/2014 6:19:19 PM] crypto.gekko: Surely. And I'm willing to work with you in any way to make you happy.
[11/3/2014 6:19:25 PM] David Zimbeck: ok
[11/3/2014 6:20:13 PM] crypto.gekko: 30k is a lot of money, but I know your tech and support is worth every penny. Working together, the development is real and the money is real too.
[11/3/2014 6:20:26 PM] David Zimbeck: i believe my tech is worth a lot more
[11/3/2014 6:20:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i have turned down 30K before
[11/3/2014 6:21:03 PM] crypto.gekko: That's why our continued relationship would only bring more rewards.
[11/3/2014 6:21:07 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[11/3/2014 6:21:11 PM] David Zimbeck: thats the point
[11/3/2014 6:21:16 PM] David Zimbeck: im loyal everyone knows that
[11/3/2014 6:21:34 PM] crypto.gekko: The coin will have a large development pool. As you spend time to develop into the future, that money goes to you of course.
[11/3/2014 6:21:36 PM] David Zimbeck: you get more than you pay for
[11/3/2014 6:21:45 PM] David Zimbeck: since i can help your entire team
[11/3/2014 6:21:57 PM] crypto.gekko: indeed
[11/3/2014 6:22:21 PM] crypto.gekko: So what is the best way to move forward in your opinion?
[11/3/2014 6:22:45 PM] David Zimbeck: that all depends on you guys
[11/3/2014 6:22:57 PM] David Zimbeck: you know your schedule
[11/3/2014 6:23:14 PM] David Zimbeck: I can give you guys an address
[11/3/2014 6:24:09 PM] crypto.gekko: If you have trust in Lin and Steve and you are truly interested in making BitBay your "baby". I see no reason why you sholdnt take the bull by the horns.
[11/3/2014 6:24:36 PM] crypto.gekko: Otherwise, I will need to hire multiple devs and pay them as needed. You being one of them for your technology.
[11/3/2014 6:25:00 PM] David Zimbeck: I'm already doing that
[11/3/2014 6:25:13 PM] David Zimbeck: I work on Halo every day
[11/3/2014 6:25:33 PM] crypto.gekko: I think I have a better grip on the situation now.
[11/3/2014 6:26:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Basically when I wake up, I code. Then eat and sleep.
[11/3/2014 6:26:07 PM] David Zimbeck: lmao
[11/3/2014 6:26:27 PM] David Zimbeck: i also am training devs here in cambodia
[11/3/2014 6:26:28 PM] crypto.gekko: I do the same, but basically help other coins to make their tech a reality.
[11/3/2014 6:26:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i can train any of Lin or Steves devs
[11/3/2014 6:27:04 PM] crypto.gekko: Is the cost of that included in your initial payment?
[11/3/2014 6:27:20 PM] David Zimbeck: depends on what they ask me Cheesy
[11/3/2014 6:27:31 PM] crypto.gekko: So we will need to create a contract.
[11/3/2014 6:27:45 PM] David Zimbeck: A real contract on paper?
[11/3/2014 6:27:59 PM] crypto.gekko: Digital contract or smartcontract if needed.
[11/3/2014 6:28:21 PM] crypto.gekko: The details of which I will discuss when I meet with Steve and Lin in China next week.
[11/3/2014 6:28:53 PM] David Zimbeck: Just draft a contract on paper
[11/3/2014 6:29:07 PM] crypto.gekko: Sure, I'm fine with a simple record of notary.
[11/3/2014 6:29:18 PM] David Zimbeck: most important, i dont want my name attached to the project until the btc funds
[11/3/2014 6:29:30 PM] David Zimbeck: once it funds you can use my name
[11/3/2014 6:29:38 PM] crypto.gekko: that seems more a matter of trust to me
[11/3/2014 6:29:40 PM] David Zimbeck: i just wanted to make sure my name is not used for profit
[11/3/2014 6:30:03 PM] David Zimbeck: because it could harm my reputation otherwise

I read it. Looks like Gekko was trying to do something legit and Zimbeck says "Pay me first and I'll do whatever it takes to make more money".Zimbeck was quick to put a btc addy and take money upfront, shows how much he "cared" about the project. Such complete bullshit, agreed. Keep posting more logs, it adds fuel to the Christmas fire.

The thread above tells the tale for all those wondering what's going on with Zimbecks scheme.

Yeah yeah yeah. Enough logs. They are tedious now. No more distractions. Time to follow the money. We want to see where the bay is and where the bitcoin is from all the players left. Might as well start with David since he is the one looking for redemption.