Quote from: Puppet on December 17, 2014, 10:15:50 PM

Quote from: Ghai on December 17, 2014, 09:51:52 PM

Cointellect has a pool : stratum+tcp://66.55.92.73:8000. You don't have to use the miner they offer on their site, but you can point your own miner on it. They have a live-feed published of one of their datacenters a few days ago: http://dc.cointellect.com/

That live feed is actually neat (Im not being cynical). Just a shame I cant tell if those are file servers in those cabinets or miners.
At least they have some hardware apparently. Are there no pictures?

The pool IP doesnt tell me anything though. Id need pool stats and block signatures.

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I was wondering if you really try to talk with people of these companies on phone and try to get the information you need or that you only decide if it's a ponzi or not based on what you see on their sites or rumors you heard.

I dont call them, I usually do reach out to them via the forum, but as Ive explained a few times, I base myself solely on publicly available information for the very reason I want everyone to be able to double check my findings and do their own due dilligence. IOW, I shouldnt have to call them to get answers to these questions. But if there is something I missed, Im more than happy to adjust the ratings. Not sure yet if what you provided warrants that just yet.

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Btw Genesis Mining might be legit, but is absolutely not profitable.

I deliberately ignore profitability questions. A scam can easily appear as profitable as the scammer wants it to appear, thats not something that should be balanced against the fact they are a scam and may not pay a penny after x weeks. So I only try to ascertain how likely it is a given company will comply with its contract, not how (un)profitable those contracts might be.

There are a few more pictures on their sites, also by night, but I don't think they give a much clearer image anyway. About profitablity, the most obvious scam imo, is the scam that promises you a x or y amount, but when you buy a contract does not pay the amounts promised. One of the worst examples I have seen is https://cloudhashing.com/.

Ponzi's are harder to prove, also because a company (any company) can go broke at any time for numerous reasons. I think sometimes the bitcoin community is a bit too focused on calling companies ponzi's. Of course transparency is much needed, but also not easy to come by on the internet. Any picture can be fake, you can't visit companies because they are on the other side of the world, cryptocurrency are quite anonymous. All reasons why it is hard to determine if you are dealing with a legit company or not. In my opinion the best way to invest in cloudhashing is always to try with small amounts of money, see if they keep promises and if the payouts don't lower too fast and reinvest after you get break-even. Always spread your risks and never invest more than you can afford to lose. Even if they are ponzi's you can still earn money that way.