Quote from: NotLambchop on December 18, 2014, 03:26:11 PM

Quote from: dinofelis on December 18, 2014, 03:03:16 PM

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That's how the classical upper classes (aristocracy) became rich: by extortion of those that produced, whether they were farmers or other value-producers. With that, they did according to their whims: going to war, building palaces or pyramids, living in great wealth...

Lol, in that case, your employer is extorting you, taking the value you create, and living in great wealth.

No, of course not. My employer and I AGREED mutually on a deal. He didn't put a gun against my head forcing me to produce value for him. I had a choice. When you have a choice (not "an offer you cannot refuse"), there's by definition no extortion. At most, a scam.

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I'm not against the state, as it would be as silly as being against gravity. The appearance of organized extortion...

You are not? Not against organized extortion?

As it is unavoidable, better be on the extortion side, no ?

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...is unavoidable when there is wealth creation. A state is unavoidable: if you destroy one, another will come in its place. So better learn to live with it, and use it to your advantage...

That's mighty defeatist of you. Work for a brighter tomorrow--Communism!

Communism is the top of extortion.