Quote from: toknormal on December 19, 2014, 05:19:25 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 19, 2014, 04:27:47 PM

The only way to make this project is by creating an entirely new coin to get rid of all the scammers who got into it and will dump in case the coin gets a little value.

If I may say so, that is a completely deluded and wrong remark which is not the least bit thought through.

The coin is "held" by a diverse array of investors, including some of the original "scammers" but also genuine investors who were interested in supporting this project.

Start another coin and you'll just get another "diverse array off investors" including some scammers, pumper & dumpers and genuine interest people.

It's up to the market to sort all this out. So what if scammers dump ? They can only dump into bids and bid liquidity can only appear if some commercial viability emerges in the underlying asset at which point we've come full circle and just negated your original point.

Of all the posts in this entire thread I've read, the only poster I've seen not hell bent on rigging the market in one way or another is the dev himself. He's the only guy who actually seems interested in achieving a valuation based on technical merit of the underlying asset.

The rest of you are just over opinionated armchair columboes, obsessed with who got what when and who's got how much of the coin supply. You'd be more useful at a cockfight than deciding what to do with cryptocurrency project and by the looks of it, most of you are part of the original scam anyway therefore totally unqualified to contribute to any solutions.

It's clear as a f*cking bell to me why the dev didn't speak out earlier, even though it seems elusive to most on here.

Sitting behind a bitcointalk pseudonym and wildly crying "scam" with complete impunity is completely incomparable with crossing the line in a professional context to accuse colleagues of serious misconduct if not outright theft. Of course the guy's going to f*cking think twice about doing that because you need cast iron proof for a start, you're not anonymous for a second and if you get it the least bit wrong you've just dug your professional grave for life as a third.

Get over it. There were some hard core thieves involved in all of this - the dev does not appear to have been one of them and now he wants to be allowed to complete the job he was commissioned and paid to do. If he makes a reasonable delivery than the market will start to become more interested in the future than the past and will take care of dumpers.

dude, what you have to understand is that the "dev" account, is just an account shared by multiple members (bobsurplus, dzimbeck, ect..) to only post good updates and shit, this isnt a separate person or anything, its the same a-holes who are arguing in the rest of this thread, sorry guys this one is over... time to salvage your btc and move on imo