Quote from: BADecker on December 27, 2014, 04:40:16 PM

Quote from: contagion on December 27, 2014, 05:23:38 AM

Quote from: AllTheBitz on December 26, 2014, 09:27:54 PM

All you have to do is repent and you will be saved so don't act like god wants you to burn in hell. he created us with opinions and brains so we could choose are own way and so if your going to not do something as simple as asking for forgiveness ( which you don't have to read the bible to be able to) then yeah you can burn in hell then.

You did not address the logical problem I enumerated. Specifically the Bible does not say all you need to do is repent and you are 100% insured to pass through the narrow gate. It couldn't possibly state that, because then everyone could do evil their entire life then suddenly repent on their death bed. There isn't any enumeration of precise requirements for 100% surety to pass the narrow gate the Bible could do to be precise that couldn't be gamed due to the unbounded entropy of the Universe at stated by the Second Law of Thermodynamics (that the entropy trends to maximum). Thus it is logically impossible for a religion to provide surety. This is why for example there is a Proverb, "never be surety to another" because it binds you to promises you can't guarantee because the future is unbounded.

You are making things up that are not written, because you want to ignore the risk and only think about the part that makes you happy. You have invented your own religion, but it isn't the one written literally in the Bible.

Quote from: AllTheBitz on December 26, 2014, 09:31:23 PM

I think that if people are saying that just because you believe in something you are narrow minded and that the bible is for people that don't want to think clearly you are trying to start something.

I guess the flaming must begin now, because you did not address the logic. You ignored it or didn't grasp it.

A person's repentance must always be real.

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The point is, how many times can he do this while maintaining the repentance as sincere repentance?

Can we be any less precise. My response is the same as it was upthread:

Quote from: contagion on December 19, 2014, 10:04:03 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 19, 2014, 09:59:50 AM

We don't know what it will be like, but it will be glorious and joyful.

nebulous warm fuzzies...

Quote from: BADecker on December 27, 2014, 04:40:16 PM

Second Law of Thermodynamics doesn't have anything to do with the things that God works.

Then please inform God to disprove the most fundamental theorem of the Universe, because he/she/it/thing hasn't done so yet.

All I see is nebulous delusion unsubstantiated neither by the literal scripture nor any falsifiable methodology.

Quote from: AllTheBitz on December 28, 2014, 02:16:48 AM

...if you want me to go into the part about what will happen to you in more detail then just burning in hell we can have a discussion about it then.

And what can purportedly happen to you too, because you have no absolute assurance you are not going to hell. Absolutely no absolute assurance.

Matthew 7 New International Version (NIV)
Judging Others

[Jesus said]

7 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brothers eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers eye.