Quote from: noggin-scratcher on December 29, 2014, 02:01:13 AM

Quote from: Barabbas0 on December 28, 2014, 11:54:52 PM

And ultimately, if it causes lenders to leave, it's a bad idea. The whole point of all this is to provide a way for margin traders to borrow USD. If there's no lenders then there won't be liquidity when the borrowers need it. BFX needs to do something soon. The easiest would be to outright disable FRR, however that's a temporary solution at best.

BFX are of the expressed and understandable opinion that they're not in the business of guaranteeing a return to swap providers.

BFX are great at demonstrating they have no idea how markets work. This debate isn't about guaranteeing returns to swap providers. It's about providing a fair market place that maximizes participants.

Quote from: noggin-scratcher on December 29, 2014, 02:01:13 AM

If people leave then the remaining pool of funds will become more expensive to use... if that happens to coincide with a sudden reason for increased demand then maybe it'll get a little crazy before those who left get themselves organised to return. As someone putting money into swaps I somewhat welcome the idea; even just one mad week of stupidly high rates would renew my flagging spirits.

That's a solution!? Stupidly high rates are what causes margin traders to leave. It should be an appropriate and consistent rate. Right now it's a violent feast/famine cycle. What causes that? Lack of lending liquidity. When a whale clicks buy on margin, they suck up all the liquidity driving up rates to ludicrous levels for an extremely temporary time.

Quote from: noggin-scratcher on December 29, 2014, 02:01:13 AM

Whatever happens, it'll sort itself out in the end - if the demand is there without the supply to fill it then rates will rise until they're sufficiently enticing, even if there's some "stickiness" in both directions (people hanging on past the point where they start to feel unhappy with the return, or taking time to arrive as and when rates come back up).

No. It won't. If it would "sort itself out in the end", it would be sorting itself out now. The situation's getting worse and worse everyday. BFX should be encouraging lenders for when there's actually a bull run and they'll be needed.