Quote from: justusranvier on January 01, 2015, 01:12:55 AM

It's been a lot harder than it should have been, because Monetas was apparently the only company not building a scamcoin for the VCs to pump and dump.

Hmm I'm not sure if actual VCs invested in any alt-coins - other than ripple & stellar, right?

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Quote from: adam3us on January 01, 2015, 12:08:07 AM

The OT network voting trusts escrow everyones bitcoins so are a form of trust. Should we trust you. You dont have to answer.. just illustrating the sorts of questions you're asking so you can think about them and see the perspective on the receiving end.

I've spent a considerable amount of time documenting what we are building, exactly what kind of trust model is involved, and have been consciously meticulous about making realistic claims about the security guarantees.

The fact that you're trolling me like this just means you haven't bothered to read any of it.

Actually I did watch an hour video of you presenting technical details about the trust model & I thought you did a good job of articulating it and being fair about the security assumptions. I also read some other stuff and Chris showed me a code walk through and demo a while back.

But I do find it pretty funny that you jump on me as trolling when I replay your own questions to you

Chortle. Thats actually what I said about what I was doing and you still bit?

Your (and others) questions about our investors were far more pointy and detailed than I asked you also. You didnt name them. You didnt say what their motive was. You didnt say why we should trust you. You didnt give your backup plan for what'd happen if Monetas went evil.

Anyway really - you dont have to answer, I'm not actually asking, you're not proposing changes to bitcoin core. But once you have users, they may have a legitimate reason to demand answers to those questions so you maybe want to think about company structure and board voting control and such things also and ask yourselves a bunch of red-team what-if questions.

Not giving you a hard time really. I kind of like OT's model its slightly similar to a model I had for a 2001 censor resistant name space http://www.cypherspace.org/p2p/auditable-namespace.html in its trust but verify model, and I spent a while talking with Chris and he seems to have good intentions and be technically smart.

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Quote from: adam3us on January 01, 2015, 12:08:07 AM

Anyway Daniel Krawisz view

I'm willing to bet that I see Daniel in person far more frequently, and am more involved with the brainstorming leading up to his articles, that you are.

I like his articles, and if you contributed ideas to them great, nice job.

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Quote from: adam3us on January 01, 2015, 12:35:45 AM

Mark Friedenbach has first hand experience of trying to work for a year on bitcoin donations, that didnt work out very well.

It would have worked out better for him if it would have ever answered an email every once in a while.

Yeah I saw some of the bct exchanges between you and him about project status. Not my business to pry into really I dont know.

Adam