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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 27/03/2018, 07:42:41 UTC
Dunja, follow the procedure of your bank on their site (Rabobank/ING/ABN or whatever bank you have)

There's something written about cashing in foreign cheques. Otherwise: call service center of your bank. I did too, they helped me out.

4Power



Hey 4power, I received the cheque, can you tell me how i could get the money?

grtjs


I have received the class action check from cryptsy i thought i would be a few hundred but it was a whopping 6000+usd. Well i can go to vacation from that money :-).

Lucky i filled in the the settlement thing on the website.

No, can't be right.

Unless you've had an amount stuck equivalent of approx 57 BTC on Cryptsy at that time.


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on 25/03/2018, 08:04:44 UTC
I have received the class action check from cryptsy i thought i would be a few hundred but it was a whopping 6000+usd. Well i can go to vacation from that money :-).

Lucky i filled in the the settlement thing on the website.

No, can't be right.

Unless you've had an amount stuck equivalent of approx 57 BTC on Cryptsy at that time.


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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 04/03/2018, 06:36:23 UTC
I haven't received any check, I live in The Netherlands, maybe it takes longer to arrive, did anyone else received anything who lives in Europe?

and what if I take the check, does that mean I don't receive any money anymore from any future claims?, like the coinbase?

this David Silver lawfirm doesn't reply anymore.

and this thread also looks dead

Hoi Dunja,

I have received my check approx. a month ago, already got the money from my bank. It takes a lot of time and effort (and money) to withdraw a foreign check over here.

What I've read (not confirmed yet) future claims are included if you got accepted for the Cryptsy user settlement the first time.

If you have more questions, do not hesitate to ask and try to ignore the spam posts.

Grtjs,

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 17/12/2017, 09:46:05 UTC
"Dear Paul,

I expect you to transfer my 7.6 BTC which you are still holding AND my 7.6 BCH (August fork) to my adresses:  BTC: 1EYE415vGCNWvQWiokWbu9ySJ6GnoNQfej and BCH: 12uWkmrtmyKJyGZUFqWW8y2UZW9ZJghEMJ".

Many thanks in advance for Hodling our coins, as for they are worth much more now."



4P  Cheesy
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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 18/09/2017, 05:42:05 UTC
My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

4Power.


 

lol bitcoin anonymous? Cheesy bwaahaa noobs

I have nothing to hide, you?

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 17/09/2017, 20:20:38 UTC
Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Not an expert but if you are non US citizen & non US resident & the country you are living in has a tax treaty with the US, then you fill in part II. Otherwise leave it blank.
I would also dispute that the returned funds should be non-taxable as returning assets/currency is not "income" but really, who knows with the US... they try to tax everything. I for one am going to contact the lawyers about it but I highly doubt anything will change.

LOL

I live in the Netherlands.. They tax you untill you die.. and when you die, they tax your heirs Smiley
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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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on 17/09/2017, 15:26:01 UTC
Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN from?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Claim accepted, non-us citizen:

I only filled in what country i reside in (Part II, 9)

For Part II, 10: I left it open as for it's not applicable for our case.



4Power



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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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on 16/09/2017, 07:01:28 UTC
My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

4Power.


 
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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 17/01/2016, 10:31:01 UTC
Just logged into Cryptsy.

BTC balance is back in my account.

Also got BTC moved into my account from another user (I think it's the payban reward from the chat).

Surprises me that the trade key transaction works....

Our wallet is currently offline while we perform wallet maintenance

As is selling the remaining BTC to localbitcoins.com  Huh



http://s8.postimg.org/56bjpjlut/btc_post.jpg

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 16/01/2016, 16:28:57 UTC
The witchhunt for the BTC1000 is on!

https://twitter.com/jasonpilgrim77

What the fuck is this?  Sounds more like a chinese or vietnamese tried to pull out dat joke knowing ppl will quote it and build up some post counting in this thread or simply make ppl guess who that mysterious poster is.

Who ya calling a Chinese or a Vietnamese?

And yes, pulling out jokes don't belong in this  bloody serious thread. So I guess that guy is for real.....  Cheesy

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 16/01/2016, 15:36:12 UTC
The witchhunt for the BTC1000 is on!

https://twitter.com/jasonpilgrim77

Why post on Twitter?
Why not just contact them directly, or post in the forums.... Huh

Ask him (jasonpilgrim77), not me.

I'm only the spotter  Grin
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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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on 16/01/2016, 15:29:40 UTC
The witchhunt for the BTC1000 is on!

https://twitter.com/jasonpilgrim77
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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 15/01/2016, 08:23:33 UTC
@Cryptsy.

Just pull a bter.com with jua.com after bter.com got hacked  Smiley
Could potentially be one of the bigger (or biggest alt-coin) exchanges then. Just merge Cryptsy and their user database!  Grin

http://www.coindesk.com/bter-to-return-hacked-funds-following-security-partnership/



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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 03/01/2016, 07:39:01 UTC
Just a example of what i've found in the cryptsy chat today.
BtW, on a earlier version for cryptsy the chat was visible for everyone who is not registered or logged in on the site.
To read the chat today, people must open a account. New users who check out the site are not aware about the current problems!
Do they hide their problems this way, especially for new users? Because the exchange rates (which are manipulated in my opinion, due to the current withdrawal problems) promise a lot of profitable arbitrage opportunities and seems very interesting for Trader.

http://i.imgur.com/RBoL3du.png

A conclusion of my thoughts:
It seems that guy in blue with the crown (Admin) can't provide exact information about the problems (since months).
But he tells the users that they can try to upgrade to Tier 2, to withdraw coins.
In other words, he ask in the name of the company to provide personal data! But does he provide a proof that this works better?

Tier 2 needs:
- Upload Government Issued Photo ID
- Upload Government Issued ID + Face & Paper
- Upload Copy of A Utility Bill
The main idea behind tier 2 is to make fiat transactions available!
Tier 1 does not allow fiat transactions and is for bigger limits of montly cropto transactions, than tier 0. Tier 0 need no data, Tier1 real name and address.

So why is he asking for additional data if someone don't want trade fiat? In other words it means tell us more about you, but we can't promise that you get your coins faster. Lol, maybe next week he recommends, call your fist child cryptsy and upload the birth certificate, that could help to get your withdrawal processed.

BtW, how did that guy got a crown? Seems he does not know what a wallet address is... Wallet addresses are visable to the public, like license plate on a car. Everyone can see it and recognize the car, even without having the keys to access to it. (Or does he mean the keys to the secret that shows what's really going on?? )

Fianlly it seems to me that cryptsy acts not fair and honest. They play with the fear of users.


and according to the thoughts of my last post...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13420253#msg13420253
Isn't it obvious?
They changed the fee structure and created problems that many people want withdraw funds.
Somehow i think this mass panic, that cryptsy could end like MtGox, creates a lot of profits on fees. Much bigger at the moment, compared with a normal operation, where users withdraw only sometimes. At the moment many people try to move their coins, in fear of a total loss.
Further, greedy people try to arbitrage, due to the pumped altcoin prices. They search for routes to let coins circulate. And cryptsy takes now 0.5% fee on those trades! (The double of what they took before they made the changes)

If i am right with all my guessing about this all. Then cryptsy did a clever move maybe. This situation seems calculated but it is not fair, not honest and not very much appreciated.
And i understand why they don't announce the problems to the public. Also i understand in the same way what causes this lack of information in general.

Think i should stop now. It's a sad story that makes me angry.
Maybe i finish with a hand full of question, because i see that cryptsy staff writes here sometimes. Maybe someone likes to respond.

Do you guy recover additional withdrawal/network fees in the case that a user was told to process very tiny transactions?
Just imagine that i buy a bunch of DOGE for like 50 BTC on other exchanges to dump them at cryptsy... let's say i get a profit of 10 % due to this trade. Then i create 550 transactions of 0.1 BTC to send my BTC back to my wallet, because a guy in the chat said it could work.
The sum of the network withdraw fee will be 0.55 BTC, but it should be 0.001 BTC according the fee structure on a single Tx.
A additional fee of 0.5% is deducted from the whole amount, because cryptsy charges a trading fees on withdrawals. It's okay in my opinion. But it should be a bit less or 0.0% instead as long as the service does not work perfect and withdrawals are processed delayed. Correct?
Or is it okay to charge money for a not working service?

Why not halting markets and put coins into maintenance when you guys expect problems with withdrawals? Especially when the issues are on your end and not made by the coin/network?
It seems more efficient to me, instead of answering hundreds or thousands of support tickets and trolling the users in the chat box.



+1 !

They should at least stop charging a withdrawal fee on a defect withdrawing mechanism.
Also, they've been asking us to upgrade to Tier 2. Don't know why but somehow T2 customers get their (tiny) WD faster than T1.

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 02/01/2016, 20:50:38 UTC




You're not a bot, you're a shill or worse a sockpuppet.

Had to look up what shill or sockpuppet means. (I'm dutch).

Relatively new Cryptsy customer here. Still 7,27 BTC pending since 2-3 weeks.

Why in the world would I be a shill for them if I have approx. 3000$ stuck there?

All I say is that there ARE  BTC WD's coming through. Still BS that it takes so long. I don't believe there are bots in chat to say small WD work as for I am living proof small WD's are coming through.

With all do respect, stick to the facts and investigate before spamming threads with bull****. I'm frustrated too, but no need to spread FUD, unless it's proven that everybody has lost or will lose their money @ Cryptsy.

4P.

Your account is all of 3 days old and you make a point of posting in this thread that small withdrawals are working.  You have posted nowhere else on BCTalk.  Then judge dread also makes a point of posting that his small withdrawals are working.  Sounds suspiciously like shilling to me.  Lets hear it from an account with some actual post count or reputation.  Newbies shilling for scams is way too common around here to give you anything like the benefit of the doubt.


Excuse me, I was not aware the amount of posts of someone (no matter the quality) was leading for to be considered thrustworthy. Let me post 4000x "funny" pics on this tread first then I have some credit, right?

I've been following bitcointalk for 3 years. Mostly I'm on reddit, and here Lurking.

Back to lurking, did not know this thread was for the exclusive elite members.

4P

EDIT What does my age got to do in making a point that small withdrawals are working? I posted the TRXID's from my small withdrawals. You know how it works, just check it out then. Small withdrawals work. Proof, see my trxid's. Oh wait, I'm only 3 days old. It must be a scam. Some people are legit, keep fait in the good of people. Let that be your 2016 goal.
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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 02/01/2016, 17:41:10 UTC
Can we just change the fucking damn name from "Crypto-Coins" to "FUD-Coins" already ?

I tell ya guys i am thoroughly sick and fucking tired of every guy in Crypto crying FUD like a retard.
I also don't think there has ever been a more abused word / term in the English dictionary.. EVER !
They should add the definition "Crying FUD" to "Crying Wolf"

The crying FUD routine is 99.99% used as a means to attack and discredit someones comment.
Person A) says anything at all that is not a cock sucking fanboyism and cheerleading..
And person B) runs and like and cries FUD.

Every single scammer cloner shit bag in all of crypto history has cried FUD NON STOP since day 1.
When the context screams shit storm of cum guzzlin' scammery.. Look the fuck around idiots.
How many hacks and missing coins and scammers etc have we seen ?

You guys are like a criminals in Jail all crying but "I'm innocent"  Roll Eyes

By the way i am Dutch too.. uhh so what ?


Did not know the meaning words Shill and Sockpuppet. Just to explain.

And please show some respect, mr Internet hero. Some of us who you're flaming at don't deserve that treatment. Or do you use that same big mouth of yours IRL too?

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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on 02/01/2016, 16:48:40 UTC
A short chat log from cryptsy:

seems they use random users like Sprite160 to tell people everything is fine. Nice to see them acting like this Sad


Sprite160
I got another small BTC withdraw a few minutes ago.


<...snip to reduce quote size...>

JShock ♔
@Sprite160: Thanks for reporting it


<...snip to reduce quote size...>


I have been watching the troll box on and off for a while now and I am convinced they use bots to manipulate public perception.  I have seen what I believe to be bots asking for withdrawals to be cancelled presumably to convince other users to cancel withdrawals too.  This may be a bot claiming small withdrawal worked to try and manipulate users into setting up lots of small withdrawals which has already been pointed out to be more profitable for craptsy and is more likely to be something that can be covered since they seem to operate on a a system where withdrawals are covered by deposits.

Yes!

I am a cryptsy chat bot trying to convice other users to withdraw in smaller amounts so Cryptsy can make more money!

BitCoin   1HVNHMWfqyixgMWenya3P6Z95WCPFWPFC9   0.36999799 BTC   Yes   2015-12-12 06:10:53
Processed   TrxID: 05b5be2fd306cea375541978eecffff0bb6523d83d7cab7e4838768cfc5f2dc5 @ 2015-12-29 08:52:09
BitCoin   1HVNHMWfqyixgMWenya3P6Z95WCPFWPFC9   0.39000000 BTC   Yes   2015-12-11 09:51:49
Processed   TrxID: b65ef5987df6ccaff6b6a867bb5b9ff176633961d46ba3c41113eed5c3852e80 @ 2015-12-16 02:56:03
BitCoin   1HVNHMWfqyixgMWenya3P6Z95WCPFWPFC9   0.16322740 BTC   Yes   2015-12-11 03:28:13
Processed   TrxID: df59585cad1ef56323169c1897b17c695f2b0fb79a8ed3547f4f0ac6e3917be0 @ 2015-12-12 19:33:43
BitCoin   1HVNHMWfqyixgMWenya3P6Z95WCPFWPFC9   0.13590016 BTC   Yes   2015-12-02 10:20:37
Processed   TrxID: a83d155451ee81e247761ab0a588f7801a5c1e27aaf40f7f94ae75b82a7ea3eb @ 2015-12-10 19:59:05


You can deposit any BTC on above mentioned wallet address. I'm a bot and need BTC for maintenance Smiley

4Power.




You're not a bot, you're a shill or worse a sockpuppet.

Had to look up what shill or sockpuppet means. (I'm dutch).

Relatively new Cryptsy customer here. Still 7,27 BTC pending since 2-3 weeks.

Why in the world would I be a shill for them if I have approx. 3000$ stuck there?

All I say is that there ARE  BTC WD's coming through. Still BS that it takes so long. I don't believe there are bots in chat to say small WD work as for I am living proof small WD's are coming through.

With all do respect, stick to the facts and investigate before spamming threads with bull****. I'm frustrated too, but no need to spread FUD, unless it's proven that everybody has lost or will lose their money @ Cryptsy.

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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4power
on 02/01/2016, 14:22:44 UTC
A short chat log from cryptsy:

seems they use random users like Sprite160 to tell people everything is fine. Nice to see them acting like this Sad


Sprite160
I got another small BTC withdraw a few minutes ago.


<...snip to reduce quote size...>

JShock ♔
@Sprite160: Thanks for reporting it


<...snip to reduce quote size...>


I have been watching the troll box on and off for a while now and I am convinced they use bots to manipulate public perception.  I have seen what I believe to be bots asking for withdrawals to be cancelled presumably to convince other users to cancel withdrawals too.  This may be a bot claiming small withdrawal worked to try and manipulate users into setting up lots of small withdrawals which has already been pointed out to be more profitable for craptsy and is more likely to be something that can be covered since they seem to operate on a a system where withdrawals are covered by deposits.

Yes!

I am a cryptsy chat bot trying to convice other users to withdraw in smaller amounts so Cryptsy can make more money!

BitCoin   1HVNHMWfqyixgMWenya3P6Z95WCPFWPFC9   0.36999799 BTC   Yes   2015-12-12 06:10:53
Processed   TrxID: 05b5be2fd306cea375541978eecffff0bb6523d83d7cab7e4838768cfc5f2dc5 @ 2015-12-29 08:52:09
BitCoin   1HVNHMWfqyixgMWenya3P6Z95WCPFWPFC9   0.39000000 BTC   Yes   2015-12-11 09:51:49
Processed   TrxID: b65ef5987df6ccaff6b6a867bb5b9ff176633961d46ba3c41113eed5c3852e80 @ 2015-12-16 02:56:03
BitCoin   1HVNHMWfqyixgMWenya3P6Z95WCPFWPFC9   0.16322740 BTC   Yes   2015-12-11 03:28:13
Processed   TrxID: df59585cad1ef56323169c1897b17c695f2b0fb79a8ed3547f4f0ac6e3917be0 @ 2015-12-12 19:33:43
BitCoin   1HVNHMWfqyixgMWenya3P6Z95WCPFWPFC9   0.13590016 BTC   Yes   2015-12-02 10:20:37
Processed   TrxID: a83d155451ee81e247761ab0a588f7801a5c1e27aaf40f7f94ae75b82a7ea3eb @ 2015-12-10 19:59:05


You can deposit any BTC on above mentioned wallet address. I'm a bot and need BTC for maintenance Smiley

4Power.


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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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on 30/12/2015, 21:40:04 UTC
Nice to meet you Spoetnik and thanks for the warm welcome on this thread Grin
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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
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on 30/12/2015, 21:16:40 UTC
You guys have had my real name all along. Again, you seem to think I am higher up than I really am at Cryptsy. I worked investigations for our parent company, Project Investors Inc and helped with hacked account support tickets. I have never had access to wallets or dev area. More recently during this storm I was put on PR once BitJohn left. You have nothing on me, we have had this chat before. You won't find any leaked emails containing anything from me, no hidden group chats or conspiracies either. As I said, I have always been known as the helpful one in the community. I don't like the extreme lack of communication that has been taking place -- as I can only forward along what information I have, which as of right now, is none. I have asked for an update and have not been getting it. This is out of my hands and all I can do is cross my fingers and hope they figure everything out. As I said, If I do not hear back soon, I will be forced to resign because I disagree with what is going on as well.

^this. Ive talked to Horus in hangouts for at least half a year and he's always been a helpful and stand up kinda guy. you have to admit hes in a tough spot now cause he doesnt know much more than us atm. best of luck Horus. Hope things work out soon.

This guy is 75% Terrik or 25% cyberpinoy ..75% + 25% = 100% Marshall

And what % am I?

As a customer with quite a lot of assets stuck there I DO appreciate Horus being there for us in the hangouts. As far as he can be there for us.


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