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Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]
Gentlemen.
In the interest of greater transparency, I must inform you that accounts VolanicErupter and CanadianGuy, both Silver accounts managed by our firm, are leased to separate and unrelated individuals, fully deserving of your trust.
Sincerely Yours,
Account Marketing Team
In the interest of greater transparency, I must inform you that accounts VolanicErupter and CanadianGuy, both Silver accounts managed by our firm, are leased to separate and unrelated individuals, fully deserving of your trust.
Sincerely Yours,
Account Marketing Team
Re: [HAVELOCK] Mintspare (MS) Bitcoin Electronic Trade-in Service - Official Thread
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"which leaves illegal action as the only recourse for those who don't enjoy being punked as much as you do."
Utter, utter garbage. There is no justification for taking illegal action. You sound like the thieves that say "Well, music is too expensive, or I can't afford it, or the RIAA are thieves themselves, so I have no recourse but to steal the music.". You can simply not steal it and move on. Especially in this situation.
The people here advocating illegal action have absolutely no clue about the golden rule. None at all. Go ahead, ruin everything even more. Congratu-****ing-lations.
Utter, utter garbage. There is no justification for taking illegal action. You sound like the thieves that say "Well, music is too expensive, or I can't afford it, or the RIAA are thieves themselves, so I have no recourse but to steal the music.". You can simply not steal it and move on. Especially in this situation.
The people here advocating illegal action have absolutely no clue about the golden rule. None at all. Go ahead, ruin everything even more. Congratu-****ing-lations.
I did not set out to advocate illegal actions.
I stated that things could be 6% worse. That's a fact, not advice.
I further stated that with legal options off the table, the only thing that remains is accepting defeat or breaking the law. This is also neither endorsement nor advice, simply logic.
I don't care if you steal music, your golden rule or your take on Star Wars - I buy and sell trust, I can not afford questionable ethics.
lophie
Have you ever watched Star Wars? You're behaving and thinking like someone consumed. Don't make me say who. Let go of your hate. Ukyo is still here, working on it, and has returned 1/15th of the funds. It could have been worse...
Have you ever watched Star Wars? You're behaving and thinking like someone consumed. Don't make me say who. Let go of your hate. Ukyo is still here, working on it, and has returned 1/15th of the funds. It could have been worse...
It could have been up to 6% worse.
Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]
That's what makes the whole thing what it is. Both Jon and Ken are playing outside the law, so I have no idea how their lawyers would frame a tort case without both Jon and Ken having to admit to vanable crimes in the process. One issued unregistered shares, the other ran an unlicenced exchange. The bit about taking care of WeEx users is just the cherry on top - "it's for the children!"
Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]
As we know Ken seeks legal advice regularly. He wouldn't withhold Ukyo's shares unless that was something he could justify to a judge based on Ukyo withholding our BTC. Its a fair move at the end of the day and compensates for the loss of capital suffered by ACtM.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297543.msg3782916#msg3782916
We have ~106 BTC in the Bitfunder/WeExchange system which we can not obtain. We have sent Bitfunder's/WeExchange's Ukyo a Legal Demand For Payment within 72 hours. We expect this problem to result in the loss of the 106 BTC. We are meeting with our Lawyers to determine what our next steps will be.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297543.msg3782916#msg3782916
We have ~106 BTC in the Bitfunder/WeExchange system which we can not obtain. We have sent Bitfunder's/WeExchange's Ukyo a Legal Demand For Payment within 72 hours. We expect this problem to result in the loss of the 106 BTC. We are meeting with our Lawyers to determine what our next steps will be.
Ken can most definitely repossess Ukyo's shares in lein...
Jon claims that the shares Ken is holding did not belong to WeEx but to himself, as a natural person.
If this was IRL, his personal funds are simply off-limits.
That's irrelevant considering the parties involved, though. When i was a kid, my friend had a band called Cop Shoot Cop. This is sort-a like that - Crook Rob Crook
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lol are you sure it wasn't for just trolling?
lol are you sure it wasn't for just trolling?
As sure as I am in my God-given right to sell trust.
Gentlemen.
It is with a heavy heart that I inform you of my colleague, AccountMarketing, being B& from this forum.
Before you storm the Bastille, terrified that your natural right to purchase trust is threatened by The Man, I must advise you: This mortal blow was not dealt him for plying his honorable trade.
His transgression was far graver than selling trust or forum accounts. He replied to an off-topic post.
As you make merry this festive eve, take a moment to bow your head and speak a prayer for those no longer with us.
AccountMarketing is dead.
Long live AccountManagement!
It is with a heavy heart that I inform you of my colleague, AccountMarketing, being B& from this forum.
Before you storm the Bastille, terrified that your natural right to purchase trust is threatened by The Man, I must advise you: This mortal blow was not dealt him for plying his honorable trade.
His transgression was far graver than selling trust or forum accounts. He replied to an off-topic post.
As you make merry this festive eve, take a moment to bow your head and speak a prayer for those no longer with us.
AccountMarketing is dead.
Long live AccountManagement!
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Out of interest how do you get put in the default trust list? Do you have to do a trade directly with Theymos or just appear to be trustworthy by doing other successful trades etc?
Out of interest how do you get put in the default trust list? Do you have to do a trade directly with Theymos or just appear to be trustworthy by doing other successful trades etc?
Investing in one of our Platinum Accounts is currently the only method which comes with our 100% money-back guarantee.
Sincerely,
Account Marketing Team
I'll offer a hypothetical scenario to explain what I mean:
1. I own an account on the default trust list.
1. I own an account on the default trust list.
You will no longer have an account on the default trust list once anybody gets a whiff of what you are doing.
Our dedicated risk management experts are continuously reasserting the risk profiles of this ever-evolving landscape, Mr Lambert.
The risks are exactingly modeled and calculated with ample safety margins. This research is reflected in our pricing. Pricing, if I may add, you will find surprisingly reasonable.
Top quality trust shall only be offered to our most trusted clientele.
Sincerely,
Account Marketing Team
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I am gonna go ahead and neg rate this guy... hey buddy fuck you.
I am gonna go ahead and neg rate this guy... hey buddy fuck you.
And this is why we can't have nice things...
You have outed a guy named "AccountManagement" with a sig "...your trusted source of pre-owned quality Bitcointalk accounts..." for... selling accounts?
Huff a lot of paint when you were a kid?
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You can warn people without promoting it. Once you start promoting it (or standing by and watching while it happens) you are then liable for what happens after that.
You can warn people without promoting it. Once you start promoting it (or standing by and watching while it happens) you are then liable for what happens after that.
I am no more "liable" for the misuse of the trust i sell than a gun shop owner is "liable" for the murders comitted with the handguns he sells.
I wish to learn if my business runs afoul of any extant forum rules, not to start a debate about my responsibility for some hypothetical wrongdoings of others.
Could you comment on how you would deal with my advertising this service on the forum, regardless?
Nope. You'll find out when it happens.
BadBear's Reign of Terror
I am not trying to cheat anyone. As you have mentioned yourself, buying and selling trust is trivial. I would like it to be done publicly, just like the buying and selling of accounts. Have you not suggested that it's better to have these things out in the open, so that naive users could learn that these things exist?
Regardless, thank you for your reply.
SaltySpitoon: Thank you. Please rest assured that i'm more trustworthy than, oh... TradeFortress, to name a pillar of this comunity, The sensitive nature of my business would make dishonest dealings financially ruinous for me. My business lives and dies by its reputation.
And thank you for your reply.
I realize that the account offering this service will receive many undeserved negative trust ratings.
How can trust be undeserved?People trust you or not, period.
Leaving a negative trust rating is often used punitively, or as an instrument of blackmail. Tysat did not suggest he did not to trust me, he promised a negative trust rating.
But this is veering into unconstructive territory. All i want to learn is the potential negative repercussions of my business.
BadBear:
Thank you. I realize that all one has to do is make a deal with someone in the default trust. I aim to provide a brokerage service to make this process as frictionless and efficient as possible. The price will be determined by the demand. Could you comment on how you would deal with my advertising this service on the forum, regardless?
tysat:
I realize that the account offering this service will receive many undeserved negative trust ratings. This is simply the cost of doing business. The trusted account, and the accounts being sold, will be unaffected. Would your leaving negative trust on this account be the full extent of your response?
Thank you both.
Thank you. I realize that all one has to do is make a deal with someone in the default trust. I aim to provide a brokerage service to make this process as frictionless and efficient as possible. The price will be determined by the demand. Could you comment on how you would deal with my advertising this service on the forum, regardless?
tysat:
I realize that the account offering this service will receive many undeserved negative trust ratings. This is simply the cost of doing business. The trusted account, and the accounts being sold, will be unaffected. Would your leaving negative trust on this account be the full extent of your response?
Thank you both.
Thanks, I don't mean to imply that I'm only interested in the opinions of the mods, just that they're ultimately the ones who ban, so i wanted to make sure i'm not missing anything before putting my money in play.
*regarding trust depth: will cross that bridge when we get to it, nailing down the basics first.
*regarding trust depth: will cross that bridge when we get to it, nailing down the basics first.
Can I Deal In TRUST RATINGS?
Hello. I am interested in brokering trust ratings on this forum. Would I be breaking any rules by offering to buy, sell, and lend trust?
I'll offer a hypothetical scenario to explain what I mean:
1. I own an account on the default trust list.
2. I also own a large portfolio of non-trusted accounts which I am selling.
3. For an additional fee, I would temporarily (lend) or permanently (sell) a positive trust rating from the default trust account.
I would also like to advertise my interest in purchasing trust ratings, if the practice is allowed on this forum.
I'm not interested in debating the ethical ramifications of what i am doing, simply in determining if I could advertise my services on this forum.
Direct reply from the mods or Theymos would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Hello. I am interested in brokering trust ratings on this forum. Would I be breaking any rules by offering to buy, sell, and lend trust?
I'll offer a hypothetical scenario to explain what I mean:
1. I own an account on the default trust list.
2. I also own a large portfolio of non-trusted accounts which I am selling.
3. For an additional fee, I would temporarily (lend) or permanently (sell) a positive trust rating from the default trust account.
I would also like to advertise my interest in purchasing trust ratings, if the practice is allowed on this forum.
I'm not interested in debating the ethical ramifications of what i am doing, simply in determining if I could advertise my services on this forum.
Direct reply from the mods or Theymos would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Re: The last posting from your IP was less than 360 seconds ago. Please try again
As much as I disagree, selling accounts is not prohibited.
Do you have any better reasons than stating your own opinion about account sale being against forum rules or not?
Here are mine.
Is breaking the forum rules against the forum rules? There are clearly stated rules for new accounts - posting limits. By using a bought account these rules are being explicitly circumvented.
Do you remember that bitcointalk was recently hit by a Man-in-the-middle attack and there was a warning on the frontpage about accounts potentially being stollen? And just a few days later there's this slick guy, posting from a new account, selling accounts for bitcoin? What will stop people from thinking that these are stolen accounts on sale? Feel free to call this a conspiracy, but how long will it take till people start throwing accusations, because this starts to look very much like the inputs.io "hack". If mods want to keep the spirits calm, I'd expect them to want to keep the account management process as transparent as possible and kick the speculators out of here. Or not. Up to them, their move.
PS: that thread seems to be deleted already.
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Obviously I wont divulge figures but Im good at analysis thats my forte. I totally understand about contributing to the community but before I can do so I must become a part of it which is what Im trying. Im not sure I understand the concept of flipping real estate but will read up on that. If I can invest xbtc and make 2xbtc in y time then have I not doubled my holdings in btc regardless of fiat valuation? It goes without saying your advice suggests such a return is unachievable right now. Its starting to look as though Ive missed the boat and perhaps I should just stick buying and holding btc which Im more than happy to do just had a dream that I could buy shares and watch their value soar.
Forget real estate, let's talk widgets.
Imagine a widget that is selling today for one dollar. You know that this widget will be worth two dollars in a year's time. The widget is an excellent investment, offering you 100% ROI. You invest one dollar and get two dollars back in a year's time.
Now imagine that you bought the same widget with bitcoin, which appreciates by 300% per year (it's doing better than that now, but let's be conservative). Let's assume, just for the sake of simplifying the math, that at the time you invest, 1BTC=$1. You buy your widget for 1 BTC, and in a year's time it appreciates -- it is worth $2. But at the same time, BTC value has quadrupled, so when you sell the widget, you get 0.5BTC. You have *lost* half of your bitcoin.
This is a definite concern with BTC investments that pay dividends in USD converted to BTC. Once you have some BTC denominated investments, it's not a bad idea to include some fiat dividend investments as a hedge against a falling USD/BTC rate. For a beginner though, yes, it's a good idea to take this risk into account.
This could be simplified to "BTC investments make sense only when the underlying asset appreciates at a greater rate than BTC itself." BTC is the unit of account here, so any investment has to appreciate more rapidly than bitcoin itself to show a profit. Betting that anything appreciates faster than bitcoin is currently a sucker's bet.
It's irrelevant what the dividends are paid in -- bitcoin or fiat. Profiting in fiat will happen at the same rate, regardless of what the dividends are paid in -- dollars, BTC or vestal virgins. If you have invested 1BTC when it was worth $10 and now your investment is worth $100, you have lost $776 dollars. Paying dividends in fiat is not hedging, unless the money invested was also fiat.
Of course, if BTC tanks, this reasoning gets reversed.
TL;DR: By investing BTC into any enterprise with fiat exposure, you are simply divesting from BTC.
No. I'm not interested in semantics.
1. Yes you are. Do you call it a lie when a judge orders you to keep something secret, and the only way to achieve that is omit information and/or lie?
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The crux of the matter is Danny claims to understand this situation enough to become involved. You seem to be implying that while there is lying going on, but the lies are benign and should be overlooked.
2. I never said anything was benign. Im suggesting Ukyo may not have a choice in the matter.
As for Danny's claims, they can be perfectly reasonable and honest based on the information he has.
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You further offer up absurd scenarios where Jon is somehow allowed to talk to Danny's lawyer, because, well... lawyer. And that lawyer, not being Jon's lawyer, and thus not being bound by... anything, in turn relays this information to Danny. Are you serious?
3. Its one of many possibilities I pointed out. And yes, its plausible, its quite possible the gag order restricts Ukyo from making certain information public, but it may not restrict him in talking to any lawyer, be it his own, or one more versed in the subject that Ukyo may or may not have hired as his own. It may not even restrict him from talking about it to Danny, provided Danny doesnt make this info public. Ukyo may have obtained permission to talk to neobee about it in order to come to a resolution.
1. If I was under a gag order, and chose to lie -- I would be lying. Those calling it a lie would be correct. Those claiming that i did not lie would be wrong. This is kindergarten stuff, not sophistry.
2. Irrelevant. Dimebag Pedro has a habit to feed, he has no choice but to steal from me. This doesn't change the fact that he steals.
3. I pointed out that it is not a possibility. Other people's lawyers are no more exempt from gag orders than other people's plumbers. How many ways do i need to say it? NeoBee's lawyers are not in a privileged relationship with Jon. None of this spaghetti is sticking.