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Hello,
I want to abandone btcjam, and my account is parked (there is a lock on it) .
I have an account balance of 0.0005BTC, and this means that I have a positive balance account. As per rule 19 of the TOS, after 365 days of inactivity I will be charghed of up to 5$... How do they charge this? Do they send an invoice? Do they get wath's on your balance?
Thank you
I want to abandone btcjam, and my account is parked (there is a lock on it) .
I have an account balance of 0.0005BTC, and this means that I have a positive balance account. As per rule 19 of the TOS, after 365 days of inactivity I will be charghed of up to 5$... How do they charge this? Do they send an invoice? Do they get wath's on your balance?
Thank you
what about https://www.enforcemyarbitrationaward.com/ ?
anybody used it? is it to be trusted? worth doing on small loans?
anybody used it? is it to be trusted? worth doing on small loans?
Hello, are you subscribed to btcJAM? Are you active as investors?
I'm asking because of the rule 19 of the Term of Use.
I do not want to use BTC JAM anymore, and I cannot understand that rule!
Where do they charge the monthly fee? I have only 0,0005 BTC on my account and it's impossible to redeeem them due to transaction costs.
What I can do?
Thank you
I would advise anyone to stay away from this website cos investing here for a long time is a bad idea, the default rate is too high and the risk is not worth it..
Btcjam is turning into crappy site into a complete retardation..
Btcjam is turning into crappy site into a complete retardation..
Are you subscribed? If subscribed are you an active user? Does rules 19 of TOS APPLY TO YOU?
Thankyou
Honestly, all my the loans that I have helped fund on Bjam are going well, I haven't even gotten 1 late payment or default yet.
I have fairly strict criteria to fund a loan and I dig around, but if i'm at all doubtful, I don't fund something even if its A graded
Remember that some people are shameless and just want to steal money... Some people are honest but rubbish at investing the money they have borrowed, so they're not scammers, but they wouldn't get a loan from a bank either.
I have fairly strict criteria to fund a loan and I dig around, but if i'm at all doubtful, I don't fund something even if its A graded
Remember that some people are shameless and just want to steal money... Some people are honest but rubbish at investing the money they have borrowed, so they're not scammers, but they wouldn't get a loan from a bank either.
To provide an update on my experience with BTCJam:
- Of two loans made, one has been fully repaid (60 day term). Final payment was made early, 45 days after initiation of the loan.
- Due to BTC appreciation against BRL, my ROI on the repaid loan in BTC terms was 0.87:1 over 45 days, for an annualized return of -67%
- Second loan (90 day term) is paying on time. If I receive full timely repayment, the ROI will likely be similar to the first loan.
I would have been better off simply keeping the coins in a paper wallet.
Now, to get my remaining money out as cheaply as possible. Last time, BTCJam reserved 50K satoshi for transaction fees per withdrawal. This despite the fact that the destination wallet covers transaction fees.
So if you are not investing anymore for the rule 19 of TOS, you will be charged 5 $ monthly.
The 50k satoshis remains in your account balance making it positive.
Do they get the 5$ from there? If not where do they take the fee?
Hello all,
How can I be blacklisted/banned from the btcJAM site?
I do no want to invest, I do not want to open a loan.
I have a balance account of 0.0005 BTC
And I do not ant it back.
They can take that.
It is impossible to unsubscribe from the site.
They will charge you if you are inactive for more of 365 days with a fee of up to 5$!!!!!!! Rule 19 of the TOS.
The sire are full of scammers and if you invest in something you will lose oll your money!
fuching btcJAM site blacklist/ban me from your service
My fake name on the site is Aleph ConZero: blacklist it
How can I be blacklisted/banned from the btcJAM site?
I do no want to invest, I do not want to open a loan.
I have a balance account of 0.0005 BTC
And I do not ant it back.
They can take that.
It is impossible to unsubscribe from the site.
They will charge you if you are inactive for more of 365 days with a fee of up to 5$!!!!!!! Rule 19 of the TOS.
The sire are full of scammers and if you invest in something you will lose oll your money!
fuching btcJAM site blacklist/ban me from your service
My fake name on the site is Aleph ConZero: blacklist it
The Verification on btcjam is very difficult, should be more simple for new members is like me
No, it should be difficult. The easier it is, the easier it is to pull scams.
Are they trying ti get rid of me?
Aleph ConZero
Subject: Please terminare my account
FEB 11, 2016 | 05:00PM PST
John replied:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting us. There is no fee for an inactive account.
Best,
John - BTCjam Support Team
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FEB 07, 2016 | 10:40AM PST
Original message
Aleph wrote:
Hello,
As in clause 18 of Term of use states
The Company may terminate this Agreement at any time without notice, or suspend or terminate your access and use of the Site at any time, with or without cause, in the Company 's absolute discretion and without notice. All the provisions of this Agreement shall survive termination of your use or access to the Site.
I do not want to invest in bitcoins and I don't wat to request loans, hence I do not want to be considered an inactive user and have to pay the "monthy fee" for inactive user
So please terminate my account and access to the site.
Thank you
I don't really like BTCjam and if I ever need a loan I usually post it here. I think BTCjam requires too much of my personal info to get a trade. While investing is pretty profitable the only time you will see my use BTCjam is investing.
Im planning to use their service too but the required personal details making me afraid to do so though
Do not use BtcJAM. Is full of scammers and read the term of service #19 expecially.
They are scammers and they you will lose all your money!
They can chance TOS without telling you, is it you that must every day if something in TOS has changed.
btcJAM sucks and are full of scammers
No I haven't give them my credit card.
Neither my name is the real one. For charching me I was thinking about my electronic wallet with BTC inside but thinking better they must request and I must cive the ok.
What do yo mean with just setup your account to something stable that will be around? Do you mean to create a fake wallet wit 0 btc?
Thanks
Neither my name is the real one. For charching me I was thinking about my electronic wallet with BTC inside but thinking better they must request and I must cive the ok.
What do yo mean with just setup your account to something stable that will be around? Do you mean to create a fake wallet wit 0 btc?
Thanks
Sorry, no I just meant setup your payout BTC address in your settings to something that will not change, an address you control for example.
In my case, I still have about 2 coins owed to me by scammers/defaulters. Say one of them magically repays the loan, I sure want to get my coins back, so I set my payout address to a wallet i have had a long time, not that it will happen, but if it does, I don't have to login anymore.
Anyhow, just set your password really super tight, and either forget it, or just never log in again. As you already probably know, they suck big time, and it's just a scammer haven for thieves.
Thank you but the fact is that the TOS https://btcjam.com/terms-of-use RULE 19 tell that they will charge me up to 5$ / month for inactivity.
How they can do that? Invoice via email? And if I do not pay the invoice? I'm not it the US.... What they can do legally?
Thanks
That's all bullshit. my balance has been 40 satoshi for over 10 months. They can fuck right off and go charge the scammers who ripped me off instead, if that is really in the TOS.
Anyhow, legally, they can't do shit bitcoin is not regulated. Morons, all of them. Even their support staff is a bunch of retards who are probably scammers too.
It is real.
Here's it
https://btcjam.com/terms-of-use
You don't have to login to read.
The rule is #19
Clearly they do not say that to autoinvest you have to start from 1.0BTC
Allyou that read stay away from this site! They are scammers and you will lose all your money.
No I haven't give them my credit card.
Neither my name is the real one. For charching me I was thinking about my electronic wallet with BTC inside but thinking better they must request and I must cive the ok.
What do yo mean with just setup your account to something stable that will be around? Do you mean to create a fake wallet wit 0 btc?
Thanks
Neither my name is the real one. For charching me I was thinking about my electronic wallet with BTC inside but thinking better they must request and I must cive the ok.
What do yo mean with just setup your account to something stable that will be around? Do you mean to create a fake wallet wit 0 btc?
Thanks
Sorry, no I just meant setup your payout BTC address in your settings to something that will not change, an address you control for example.
In my case, I still have about 2 coins owed to me by scammers/defaulters. Say one of them magically repays the loan, I sure want to get my coins back, so I set my payout address to a wallet i have had a long time, not that it will happen, but if it does, I don't have to login anymore.
Anyhow, just set your password really super tight, and either forget it, or just never log in again. As you already probably know, they suck big time, and it's just a scammer haven for thieves.
Thank you but the fact is that the TOS https://btcjam.com/terms-of-use RULE 19 tell that they will charge me up to 5$ / month for inactivity.
How they can do that? Invoice via email? And if I do not pay the invoice? I'm not it the US.... What they can do legally?
Thanks
That's all bullshit. my balance has been 40 satoshi for over 10 months. They can fuck right off and go charge the scammers who ripped me off instead, if that is really in the TOS.
Anyhow, legally, they can't do shit bitcoin is not regulated. Morons, all of them. Even their support staff is a bunch of retards who are probably scammers too.
It is real.
Here's it
https://btcjam.com/terms-of-use
You don't have to login to read.
The rule is #19
For the past week they keep rejecting my Identity Verification and Address Verification without any reason to do that. I keep upload the files 2 times a day and they keep rejecting.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.
"Hello ,
My name is ******** **********.
I dont know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document. is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.
PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.
Hope you will answer this email.
Thank you,"
Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.
"Hello ,
My name is ******** **********.
I dont know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document. is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.
PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.
Hope you will answer this email.
Thank you,"
Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.
Send me a PM with your alias, I'll check it out.
Do not send anything!!! BTCjam service is scum. Do not identify yourself!
To BTCjamsupport ban/blacklist me from your site that's done to stole my btc.
My name is Aleph ConZero (absolutely fake name) on btcjam if you need my email to blacklist me tell me and I will send you in PM.
You're all scummer
For the past week they keep rejecting my Identity Verification and Address Verification without any reason to do that. I keep upload the files 2 times a day and they keep rejecting.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.
"Hello ,
My name is ******** **********.
I dont know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document. is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.
PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.
Hope you will answer this email.
Thank you,"
Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.
"Hello ,
My name is ******** **********.
I dont know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document. is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.
PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.
Hope you will answer this email.
Thank you,"
Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.
Send me a PM with your alias, I'll check it out.
Do not send anything!!! BTCjam service is scum. Do not identify yourself!
Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...
Then do what you want!
Regards
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...
Then do what you want!
Regards
Can you post a link to wherever you are being told about being charged anything in their TOS, so that I can yell at them in another email again for being fucking scammers? Thanks!
In the event that a Users account is inactive for over 365 days with a positive Bitcoin balance, the Company will charge an account maintenance fee of the Bitcoin equivalent of up to $5.00 USD per month (Monthly Fee). Inactive is defined as an account where: 1) a User is not invested in any loans on the Site; or 2) the User has invested in a defaulted loan in which an arbitration award has been issued; or 3) has not performed another transaction such as purchasing a note.
Moreover I have 0.0005 on btcJAM: how much will be the fee?
Also: 0.00000 BTC is a positive balance?
I've never invested nor requested a loan, but they have parked my account so I cannot do anything: am I inactive?
That's a quote, not a link, but whatever.
I have 40 satoshi in my account almost 1 year now, so for all I care they can go right ahead and "Charge" me into a negative balance, it will never get paid by me. They don't have my ID or info, as I only loaned, not borrowed..
ANyhow, hey BTCJam Support , here is what I think of you and your bullshit TOS above, if true:
... But are you still investing or you do not access the site?
Because if you are investing you are an active user
Thanks
No, I got scammed, so the only "invests" I have left are defaults - do those count?
I don't use the site. They blacklisted me from doing anything, I can't even comment on a loan or anything. Then again, don't care. Just want my stolen coins back someday, but i'm not holding my breath.
Instead I'm worried about the clause #19, because i've never invested and I will never invest.
And the support says, and please explain me the bolded phtase
Thanks
Aleph ConZero
Subject: Terminare my account on btcjam
FEB 09, 2016 | 04:59PM PST
John replied:
Hello Aleph,
Yes, indeed, a parked account is not an active account. Thank you for contacting us!
Best,
John - BTCjam Support Team
FEB 06, 2016 | 01:10AM PST
Aleph replied:
Hello,
I have understood that you cannot terminate my account and you can just park it.
I do not want to invest bitcoins in btcjam and I do not want to be considered an inactive user (and pay a fee after the 365 days of inactivity) Parked user account is considered inactive? If so how can I deactivate my account myself?
Thank you
FEB 05, 2016 | 03:39PM PST
John replied:
Hi Aleph,
Thank you for contacting BTCjam! We are currently unable to deactivate BTCjam accounts or remove any associated data. We will however park your account so that no actions may be made through it. Rest assured that your information will remain safe, secure and confidential.
Best,
John - BTCjam Support Team
FEB 05, 2016 | 09:25AM PST
Aleph replied:
Hello,
Please terminate my accout on btcjam and give me feedback.
Thank you
FEB 05, 2016 | 11:59PM PST
Original message
Aleph wrote:
Hello all,,
I would like to terminate my account on your site.
Please terminate it or kindly explain me the procedure.
Thank you
Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...
Then do what you want!
Regards
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...
Then do what you want!
Regards
Can you post a link to wherever you are being told about being charged anything in their TOS, so that I can yell at them in another email again for being fucking scammers? Thanks!
In the event that a Users account is inactive for over 365 days with a positive Bitcoin balance, the Company will charge an account maintenance fee of the Bitcoin equivalent of up to $5.00 USD per month (Monthly Fee). Inactive is defined as an account where: 1) a User is not invested in any loans on the Site; or 2) the User has invested in a defaulted loan in which an arbitration award has been issued; or 3) has not performed another transaction such as purchasing a note.
Moreover I have 0.0005 on btcJAM: how much will be the fee?
Also: 0.00000 BTC is a positive balance?
I've never invested nor requested a loan, but they have parked my account so I cannot do anything: am I inactive?
That's a quote, not a link, but whatever.
I have 40 satoshi in my account almost 1 year now, so for all I care they can go right ahead and "Charge" me into a negative balance, it will never get paid by me. They don't have my ID or info, as I only loaned, not borrowed..
ANyhow, hey BTCJam Support , here is what I think of you and your bullshit TOS above, if true:
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ab/ab126fe58b860b0104554a5c539eb894d438ba31a2ac77eb64617914b4d38069.jpg
... But are you still investing or you do not access the site?
Because if you are investing you are an active user
Thanks
Invested .5BTC after using them for 1 year and in that time frame, i was able to profit around .08BTC. It is a wonderful experience for me because i only had to do was click here and there and to my excitement, i decided to loan some 2 people with good feedbacks and reputation both had A+ ratings.
After 1 month no payment received at the scheduled date and also for the next coming months.
wasted my hard earned money and profit which i had to wait for 1 fucking year.
I really recommend btc-jam if you want to throw away your money.
Are you still using it?After 1 month no payment received at the scheduled date and also for the next coming months.
wasted my hard earned money and profit which i had to wait for 1 fucking year.
I really recommend btc-jam if you want to throw away your money.
Do they charge for inactivity?
Thanks
Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...
Then do what you want!
Regards
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...
Then do what you want!
Regards
Can you post a link to wherever you are being told about being charged anything in their TOS, so that I can yell at them in another email again for being fucking scammers? Thanks!
In the event that a Users account is inactive for over 365 days with a positive Bitcoin balance, the Company will charge an account maintenance fee of the Bitcoin equivalent of up to $5.00 USD per month (Monthly Fee). Inactive is defined as an account where: 1) a User is not invested in any loans on the Site; or 2) the User has invested in a defaulted loan in which an arbitration award has been issued; or 3) has not performed another transaction such as purchasing a note.
Moreover I have 0.0005 on btcJAM: how much will be the fee?
Also: 0.00000 BTC is a positive balance?
I've never invested nor requested a loan, but they have parked my account so I cannot do anything: am I inactive?
That's a quote, not a link, but whatever.
I have 40 satoshi in my account almost 1 year now, so for all I care they can go right ahead and "Charge" me into a negative balance, it will never get paid by me. They don't have my ID or info, as I only loaned, not borrowed..
ANyhow, hey BTCJam Support , here is what I think of you and your bullshit TOS above, if true:
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ab/ab126fe58b860b0104554a5c539eb894d438ba31a2ac77eb64617914b4d38069.jpg
Completely agree!
Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...
Then do what you want!
Regards
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...
Then do what you want!
Regards
Can you post a link to wherever you are being told about being charged anything in their TOS, so that I can yell at them in another email again for being fucking scammers? Thanks!
In the event that a Users account is inactive for over 365 days with a positive Bitcoin balance, the Company will charge an account maintenance fee of the Bitcoin equivalent of up to $5.00 USD per month (Monthly Fee). Inactive is defined as an account where: 1) a User is not invested in any loans on the Site; or 2) the User has invested in a defaulted loan in which an arbitration award has been issued; or 3) has not performed another transaction such as purchasing a note.
Moreover I have 0.0005 on btcJAM: how much will be the fee?
Also: 0.00000 BTC is a positive balance?
I've never invested nor requested a loan, but they have parked my account so I cannot do anything: am I inactive?
For the past week they keep rejecting my Identity Verification and Address Verification without any reason to do that. I keep upload the files 2 times a day and they keep rejecting.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.
"Hello ,
My name is ******** **********.
I dont know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document. is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.
PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.
Hope you will answer this email.
Thank you,"
Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.
"Hello ,
My name is ******** **********.
I dont know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document. is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.
PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.
Hope you will answer this email.
Thank you,"
Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.
Send me a PM with your alias, I'll check it out.
Do not send anything. The site is too risky.
No I haven't give them my credit card.
Neither my name is the real one. For charching me I was thinking about my electronic wallet with BTC inside but thinking better they must request and I must cive the ok.
What do yo mean with just setup your account to something stable that will be around? Do you mean to create a fake wallet wit 0 btc?
Thanks
Neither my name is the real one. For charching me I was thinking about my electronic wallet with BTC inside but thinking better they must request and I must cive the ok.
What do yo mean with just setup your account to something stable that will be around? Do you mean to create a fake wallet wit 0 btc?
Thanks
Sorry, no I just meant setup your payout BTC address in your settings to something that will not change, an address you control for example.
In my case, I still have about 2 coins owed to me by scammers/defaulters. Say one of them magically repays the loan, I sure want to get my coins back, so I set my payout address to a wallet i have had a long time, not that it will happen, but if it does, I don't have to login anymore.
Anyhow, just set your password really super tight, and either forget it, or just never log in again. As you already probably know, they suck big time, and it's just a scammer haven for thieves.
Thank you but the fact is that the TOS https://btcjam.com/terms-of-use RULE 19 tell that they will charge me up to 5$ / month for inactivity.
How they can do that? Invoice via email? And if I do not pay the invoice? I'm not it the US.... What they can do legally?
Thanks