Solved the problem!

Did you know that Xubuntu -- or the latest AMD drivers, or CGMINER -- requires a DUMMY PLUG, even in Linux?

Bet you didn't know that!

By the way, did you know that Xubuntu -- or the latest AMD drivers, or CGMINER -- requires a DUMMY PLUG, even in Linux?

Bet you didn't know that!

Yes, in theory. But for some reason, cgminer says, "The driver says it was successful, but check your values below." and invariably the clock is still 300 MHz and the memory clock is still 157 MHz.


Another weird glitch:

aticonfig --od-enable --od-setclocks=980,1000 --adapter=0
aticonfig --od-enable --od-setclocks=880,1000 --adapter=1
aticonfig --od-enable --od-setclocks=880,1000 --adapter=2

Even though these settings are ALL within range for these cards (5850's), the script gets an error on cards 0 and 2 -- saying the values are out of range.

I type in

aticonfig --adapter=all --odgc

to see what exactly the range IS for each card -- and sure enough, I was right about the ranges.

So what gives? Is my driver woefully glitchy or what?

Look at this -- The clock rate (and memory clock) of GPU 0 can be set with cgminer as expected.

But I can't set either clock on GPU1 and GPU2 from within cgminer, nor on the command line.

What simple thing am I doing wrong?


GPU 0: 66.4 / 88.7 Kh/s | A:0  R:0  HW:0  U:0.00/m  I:19
76.5 C  F: 90% (4498 RPM)  E: 900 MHz  M: 1200 Mhz  V: 1.118V  A: 99% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2013-07-10 01:37:00]
Intensity: 19
Thread 0: 94.7 Kh/s Enabled ALIVE

GPU 1: 103.6 / 118.1 Kh/s | A:0  R:0  HW:2  U:0.00/m  I:19
37.5 C  F: 20 9.532824E-130: 157 MHz  M: 300 Mhz  V: 0.950V  A: 0% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2013-07-10 01:37:00]
Intensity: 19
Thread 1: 120.3 Kh/s Enabled ALIVE

GPU 2: 121.5 / 118.1 Kh/s | A:0  R:0  HW:0  U:0.00/m  I:19
40.5 C  F: 20 9.532824E-130: 157 MHz  M: 300 Mhz  V: 0.950V  A: 0% P: 0%
Last initialised: [2013-07-10 01:37:00]
Intensity: 19
Thread 2: 89.7 Kh/s Enabled ALIVE

What's up with the Russian text on the "My Account" page? Has the site been hacked or something?

Apologies if this has already been brought up several times...

Can a person say in their ad, "I accept Bitcoin"?

Or would it be a smart move to embed the Bitcoin logo in the lower-right corner of every image you upload, to let people know you'll agree to settle the amount in Bitcoin after they win the auction?
Ebay does leave "payment method" to the discretion of the seller, at least they used to.

Ebay/Paypal probably hates BTC though, so the "secret handshake" embedded BTC embossed watermark in the lower-right-corner of every image might be the best idea.

Thoughts?

On a couple of my miners, I got "Failed to subscribe."

I'm using Stratum.

Is this the beginning of another DDOS? I hope not!

Some miners are fine, but at least one can't reconnect to save itself.

What about the um... secret URL that we were given by e-mail?

I just checked that URL, and it resolves to 95.x.x.x -- sounds like the OLD server.

Then I checked stratum.mining.cz and it resolves to the right IP address.

I've been mining at the address that starts with V for the good part of a day -- am I still going to get paid?

This might be an ignorant or obvious observation, but...

Didn't Slush have some kind of whitelist system, whereby "proven" IPs were allowed access, but others were not?

Maybe, in the future, Slush will have to be for those with static IP addresses only?

I agree -- Mt. Gox needs to get their act together.

I had a buy order for $184 x 2 bitcoins.

It got filled since "Cancel" didn't work!

Well said.

Can you imagine how some large bank would have handled this? A bunch of press conferences, perception management, BS, lies, you name it.

Sure, it looks ugly when the gritty details are thrown out there and people get scared, misunderstand what's going on, etc. but that's the price of transparency.

We can handle a few inconveniences (don't use bitcoin for a couple hours, etc.) as long as we are allowed to know what the heck's going on.

It's not much to ask for, really, but if you think about it who besides Bitcoin gives that to us?

Can someone explain to me how being a third-world country results in CHEAPER electricity? Is it because everything is cheaper in your local currency, and by converting a stronger currency like the Dollar into local currency you get a favorable exchange?

Because otherwise, if what you say is true, I want to live in a third-world country too!

Actually, I've had days where my pool got "50%" of the usual amount of blocks in the past 24 hours.

Other times, we're as high as 150% of what we should have found -- or even more.

That's a 100% swing in effective hashrate!

So why isn't that possible on a larger scale?  Of course it is.

This anecdote is the point of this thread.

It's not about "should we encourage mining from new BTC users" and how it will impact the difficulty level. That's another story.

The question is: will bringing up the "mining" element actually hinder the popularity/spread of Bitcion, because of how the times, they have-a-changed?
Remember, GPU Mining isn't profitable anymore for the average person.

For it to be profitable, you have to have:
A) cheap electricity
B) knowledge of computer hardware (feel comfortable ordering Mobos, Cablesaurus extender cables, rigging cooling systems, setting up Linux, etc.)
C) desire/ability to pore over MH/J tables for the various GPUs, or at least pick decently efficient video cards
etc.

to make it work. Just popping in ONE card -- or even two, which is the most you can fit in the average motherboard, is not going to give a very good MH/J (efficiency).

Reading the miner's subforum, you'd swear that most motherboards come with 5 slots for PCI-X cards. Not true! I bought motherboards on purpose for mining, and the most I've seen is 2 PCI-X (full) and 3 PCI-X (small). Using a Cablesaurus extender cable, I manage to get most rigs up to THREE cards.

I agree.

If anything, TOO young is a handicap, because "too much tech, too soon" results in learning disabilities of various sorts.

Just look at any "Millennial" and compare him/her to an equivalent who grew up in the 80's. No contest.

I can see how not having computers as a young child really helped me and all the others in my generation.

Regarding parents these days -- They're giving more technology to their children, thinking that there is no limit to what technology can do for our brains.
(How many Millennials would screw up that last sentence!)

A magazine is a broken iPad that doesn't work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXV-yaFmQNk

You tell me that kid isn't going to be affected in very profound ways in her brain development by handling that iPad as a toddler.
She's going to have learning disabilities. It's no joke.

Yeah, those "40 year olds" went to drive-in movies and soda fountains with their slicked-back hair, etc. when they were young.

That was all true back in the 80's, but this isn't the 80's anymore.

The long and short of it: A 40 year old is not a "Baby Boomer". He was born in 1972. He was 23 when Windows 95 came out. The "personal computer" really took off a few years earlier, when he was 20.

I doubt such a guy/gal would be ignorant of computers, like some stubborn strain of Baby Boomer (I say "stubborn strain" because plenty of Baby Boomers use PCs today).

I am 36 myself, and "U Can't Touch This" was all the rage when I was in 8th grade. I suppose some members here were just babies in 1990 -- if they existed at all

It's serious!

What, because an agrarian life is so far from most people's reality, they think it doesn't exist?

You're right-- people ALL OVER THE WORLD live like Americans. They live in planned subdivisions with names like "Deer Creek", "Whispering Valley" with identical-looking, poorly constructed 2-story houses a few feet from each other and surrounded by 8-foot-tall privacy fences, with garish consumer items in the lawns, large trampolines in the backyard, etc. They all have strip malls a couple miles from their house, homeowner's associations, and they work at retail establishments for a living. They drive there in their sedans and SUVs that they're leasing, etc. You get the idea.

No, plenty of countries actually grow/raise their own food. Usually because they don't have a choice, and that's the way it's always been done for them. They haven't been "Americanized" yet.

I don't know -- since your OP it went up quite a bit, then down again (eventually).

Difficulty reset 2 days after the OP -- it was basically flat.

If I say the BTC price is tanking, am I "proven correct" if the price drops 10% up to 12 days later?

Isn't there a saying about a broken clock being right twice a day?

Exactly.

That's when your Litecoin (etc.) would take off. We're not forced to stick with Bitcoin. As long as it's the best thing out there, people will by and large stick with it.

That's why I went "Android" rather than "iOS".

iOS is slick and all that, but it's for rich people. Apple is lousy towards its developers; it treats them like ____. No thanks.
I actually found a free game dev library that ports to PC/Mac/Linux/Android/iOS -- though iOS support is in its early stages, I'm sure it will be ready by the time I need it.