Right at first glance. But still wrong.
The trusted place is created or destroyed with the simultaneous development of the project.
Which trusted person would you suggest?

There is this interesting sentence from @Hatchet (discord):

"
 All entities we are working are being built to diverse business lines outside of NEM and SYMBOL to ensure they have a life beyond either protocol and bring value to the broader cryptocurrency space.

 Diversification is business 101, after all
"

It is right to have a broad base.
But this also shows that this person doesn't give a damn about NEM/SYMBOL.
-----------------------
"
 There are no public addresses. Funds for NEM Group and all prior entities are held in exchanges. The owner of  these funds is either NEM Foundation, NEM   Trust or NEM Ventures or NEM Group. The answer is
 "it depends"
 Funds may have originated from XEM, but may have appreciated or depreciated since they were originally converted.
 
 No, the shareholders will not share rates nor transaction records publicly. Holders of XEM or XYM are not shareholders of any of the aforementioned company, and that information has no benefit (nor has it any negative in not sharing).
 We have no interest in creating the appearance that if someone holds the token, thy are shareholders.
 
 NEM and SYMBOL are one of the many initiatives that NEM Group worked on.
 As I have mentioned before multiple times, there funds are not legally considered "protocol funds". They never have been.
 
 "protocol funds" specifically means tokens that have been reserved for protocol operations, or funding of community initiatives to help the project grow, subject to discretion of th managing teams(us).
 
 So far, only NEMTUS and Opening Line have been funded(and provided viable products that would benefit the ecosystem - such as their educational technical books, or EXYM).
 
 W(as the core team)have personally funded some initiatives(such as Arcana, or Quest).
 
 Protocol funds sit in the respective NCHEST accounts on XEM or XYM.
 All entities we are working are being built to diverse business lines outside of NEM and SYMBOL to ensure they have a life beyond either protocol and bring value to the broader cryptocurrency space. ...
 Source:      "https://note.com/the_symbol_news/n/n711c2d922836"
"
-----------------------

I still wonder today how this person was able to gain so much power over NEM/SYMBOL.
In the past, this might have been called a hostile takeover.
It seems like everyone else is just a puppet and the community is a bunch of sheep.
Shouldn't these companies actually be dissolved?

And the most important question ...                                                                Who are the shareholders?

Thank you for your reply.

“Nevertheless, we will try to catch the thread of the constructive.”

I agree with you here.

Unfortunately, this is not possible.
This should be done in an official, independent forum.
This discussion should be accessible to everyone, including those outside of it, so that everyone can form their own opinion without having to register anywhere. Shouldn't a permissionless blockchain also provide permissionless information (@gimre) ?
Would you develop a business idea on a blockchain that you have no information about the future or further development of ? Even if you have been familiar with this blockchain for a long time ?
Japan and the rest of the world are very different.
There were so many good projects under NEM in Japan. Why haven't you had success? As @gimre wrote on twitter. For messages that are personal, you can use blockchain. End to end encrypted.
This is what I meant when I said you can always get in touch with e.g. CB via the blockchain.
The real problem is that nobody can trace who is involved in XEM/XYM at all.

CB was gone? How long ?  Is there actually a pirate who is really working on NEM/SYBOL?
And what is the justification for these pirates to pass off their node as a “community node” ? I would be ashamed.

Questions about questions ... ?

Always a lot of hot air being spread by @Hatchet.
Has there actually been a success story in the last four years that confirms @Hatchet's arguments?

Which people make up the current core team?

Why is a lot of information not updated ?

Why is this not openly communicated ?

If this is not published or updated, is NEM/SYMBOL a fun chain of @Hatchet or just a private chain of @Hatchet who has no interest in community ?

The pressure to sell does not really come from the node operators. This is complete nonsense.
But even back then this was a hypocritical argument to cut the node reward.

@Hatchat has simply turned XEM/XYM into a worthless pump and dump coin.

Even the bug chain now uses a different option. .........
But we know this from NEM times. The projects start here, but then decide to take a different route for many years.

Personally, I have a lot of respect for BR, Gimre, and Jaguar. Without these core devs, we wouldn't be here. These guys have also changed my life.
But that doesn't mean I support everything that happens here.

Sorry, but this is not quite right.
The forum was set to read only by @Hatchat.
She even started a Twitter poll which, as expected, got very little attention as hardly any forum users were on Twitter.
Maybe you should ask @SaulGray ?
You can also contact @Cryptobeliever directly via the blockchain with a message, this will only cost you the fees.

Sry

Of course, a completely different question arises.

What about Jaguar? What is its responsibility?

No, that was not exactly the reason. Have a look at Github, inform yourself on other sites. Then you will see how dead this project has become.
A simple example ?

Look at @XAVI, who is responsible for the documentation.
He was gone for two years. During this time nobody took care of it.

@Hatchat is all about control.
That's why the community was destroyed and limited to Japan, which looks more like incest to me. There was a photo in the forum back then that @Hatchet posted. A parrot, wrapped in some clothes, sitting on a shopping trolley outside a supermarket so it couldn't fly away.
This is exactly what happened with the XEM / XYM community.

There were enough resources available to initiate a sensible development spread across many countries. These were not utilised.

Is @gimre even a core dev anymore ?
All information, in all official sites, but also CMC, etc., about this project has long been lost. about this project is long out of date and only partially correct.
This is exactly the reason.
Look at the last upgrade of NEM, how badly it was implemented.

Why should someone starting with blockchain sign up with ‘X’ to get testnet coins to try out XEM/XYM ?
These should be freely available!
Why should someone register with "X" to take part in a dialogue?

@Hatchet:
"
We are also considering making Twitter account verification mandatory. We know that most members of the community have Twitter accounts, but we would like to hear your views on this.
"

What a load of bollocks and this woman knows it. I remember well in 2021 when she complained that hardly anyone from the community was on ‘X’.

Just as a simple reminder ... ‘permissionless blockchain’ ‘don't trust, verify’

I hope you have put some money aside for compensation claims for your tips.

Here you have the reason why the price rises slightly after becoming almost worthless. Binance, Bithumb, Upbit, ....    Look at XPX, if it continues like this, this is the future of XEM / XYM.


"
After further review of the virtual asset, Upbit determined that the reason for designating NEM as a trading caution item has not been resolved, and decided to terminate trading support in accordance with the digital asset caution item designation and trading support termination policy. " (Google translate)


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안녕하세요. 가장 신뢰받는 글로벌 표준 디지털 자산 거래소 업비트입니다.

넴(XEM)의 거래지원 종료를 안내드립니다.

참고 : 넴(XEM) 거래 유의 종목 지정 안내
[거래지원 종료 관련 유의사항]

디지털 자산의 거래지원 종료는 업비트 디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 정책에 의거 합니다. : 업비트 디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 정책
해당 디지털 자산은 2025-07-03(목) 15:00 KST 에 거래지원을 종료합니다.
거래지원 종료 시, 마켓에서 거래지원 종료 이전에 요청한 주문(매수/매도)은 일괄 취소됩니다.
본 공지 이후, 거래지원 종료 예정인 디지털 자산에 대한 에어드랍, 월렛 업그레이드, 하드포크 등의 서비스는 지원하지 않을 예정입니다.
[디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 안내]

넴(XEM)

대상 마켓 : XEM/KRW, XEM/BTC
거래지원 종료 예정일 : 2025-07-03(목) 15:00 KST
거래지원 종료 사유
업비트는 넴(XEM)에 대해서 가상자산 거래지원 모범사례에 따라 업비트는 넴(XEM)에 대해서 가상자산 거래지원 모범사례에 따라 가상자산 관련 중요사항에 대한 공시 여부 및 정도, 가상자산 보유자의 의사결정 참여 가능성, 사업의 실재성과 지속가능성, 가상자산 커뮤니티의 활성도 등을 종합적으로 고려했을 때 미진한 부분이 확인되어 2025년 5월 19일 넴 디지털 자산을 거래 유의 종목으로 지정하였습니다. 이후 가상자산에 대해서 추가적으로 면밀히 검토해 본 결과 업비트는 넴의 거래 유의 종목 지정 사유가 해소되지 않은 것으로 판단하고 디지털 자산 유의 종목 지정 및 거래지원 종료 정책에 따라 거래지원 종료를 결정하였습니다.
해당 디지털 자산의 마켓 거래지원이 종료되더라도, 거래지원종료정책에 의거하여 거래지원 종료일로부터 30일간(~2025-08-04) 출금을 지원합니다.
위 디지털 자산의 출금이 필요하신 회원님들께서는 반드시 2025-08-04 전까지 출금을 진행해주시기 바랍니다. 거래지원 종료된 자산을 입금(또는 착오전송)한 경우, 입금 반영이 불가하며 출금 지원 기간이 종료된 이후 기술적인 사유로 (착오전송) 반환에 매우 오랜 시간이 소요될 수 있으니 반드시 주의하시길 바랍니다.
고객님의 안전한 거래를 위해 항상 최선을 다하는 업비트가 되겠습니다.

감사합니다.

※ 가상자산은 고위험 상품으로 투자금의 전부 또는 일부 손실을 초래할 수 있습니다.

You should be ashamed of yourself for making a statement like that.

Lol, even the core devs don't dare to go to Japan anymore.

... interesting ... " https://nitter.net/xym_whale/status/1926467112513479059#m "

Look at XPX ... this is the future of XYM ...

?

371 ... ?


I can't imagine that this is the real reason.
Symbol is losing massive support, even in the Japanese community. The community outside Japan was almost completely destroyed by @Hatchet, among others.
The smaller projects in Japan are exclusively focused on Japan and can hardly be transferred to the rest of the world.
But this is nothing new. Maybe you should look into the past, there you can see many good projects that started under XEM (NEM)
but no longer exist today or have migrated. Why ?
Symbol is losing more and more importance. Now there are just ~ 540 nodes. A lot of them are centralized allnode nodes. This is completely ridiculous for a project that once wanted to change the world.

Really sad.

Don't trust, verify. This is exactly what is being trampled on here again and again. It's just sad.

Hash           d4e332a552bb326af0ead036c95766f78a7dc133a42427a221435a7cf12881ed
Block           4886704
Timestamp           2024-08-11 11:31:09

First XYM is delisted from Bithumb and now XEM is also being delisted from Binance. A more or less normal process at first.
The question is of course why? This is not a death sentence either. See Monero.

How can you drive a project like this into the ground like that? That is the question !
Development is almost non-existent. Worse than in the days of, ... "tomorrow" ... in the years when XYM didn't exist yet.

If you've been around for a while, you'll know what I mean.

The difference is that back then there was a global community that doesn't exist with XYM. At the moment we have a small centralized Japanese community where people think more about incest than development.

Most people in the Japanese community run their nodes via allnodes, which actually contradicts the purpose of XEM/XYM.

Development on Github is almost dead. Many have now switched to other blockchains, which are much worse, but where a developer can earn an income.

There is hardly any information about NEM/Symbol.
How can anyone have the confidence to build a business here?

Even many Japanese projects have now switched to other blockchains.

Which I can understand.

Without NEM, Symbol might die.