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Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Amen?
I am been very delayed with my job. I have lots of deadline taking my time. I am still plan on getting site back up as soon as possible.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Site temporarily down. All bet will be marked as 'above max' and sent back (less the 0.0005 TX fee) once they confirm while site is down.
TX fee is taken to insure transaction gets back in reasonable time. Please do not bet while it is down, if you do not want to lose tx fee in btc.
TX fee is taken to insure transaction gets back in reasonable time. Please do not bet while it is down, if you do not want to lose tx fee in btc.
Just out of curiosity, when will the site be back up?
I am unsure of for now. Working as quickly as possible to get everything finished, and day job is very hectic right now which is taking lots of my time.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Bitcoind provides a "time" and "timereceived" field for each transaction, even before the block clears... I thought.
Yes, but there's no way you can prove whether the site owner's bitcoind received the transaction today or tomorrow. The received time is potentially different for each bitcoin node.
"received time" is local to your running instance of bitcoin.
"time" is the actual original timestamp used to generate transaction in client.
Bitcoin network will ignore a new transaction if it is having too old a timestamp, or timestamp from future, when it is introduced.
BTCDice works using the UTC timestamp from transaction to determine day of transaction (in UTC) and then process using secret of that day (in UTC).
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Site temporarily down. All bet will be marked as 'above max' and sent back (less the 0.0005 TX fee) once they confirm while site is down.
TX fee is taken to insure transaction gets back in reasonable time. Please do not bet while it is down, if you do not want to lose tx fee in btc.
TX fee is taken to insure transaction gets back in reasonable time. Please do not bet while it is down, if you do not want to lose tx fee in btc.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
I was using bitcoind to send directly to the address. I can't verify all of the games until more than 24 hours has passed, since the site uses the time of processing to choose the secret used (which it shouldn't, it should use the time recorded in the block chain for the transaction).
I don't know what you mean by "independent," I lost 21 games consecutively. If we round the <32k game to 50% chance of winning, it's like a coin flip, where the chance of flipping heads is 1/2^1, or 1/2. The chance of flipping 2 heads in a row is 1/2^2, or 1/4. That would make my run of 21 losses about a 1/2^21 chance, or 1/2097152.
I don't know what you mean by "independent," I lost 21 games consecutively. If we round the <32k game to 50% chance of winning, it's like a coin flip, where the chance of flipping heads is 1/2^1, or 1/2. The chance of flipping 2 heads in a row is 1/2^2, or 1/4. That would make my run of 21 losses about a 1/2^21 chance, or 1/2097152.
red flag
The site operator can easily delay processing transactions until the current time generates a losing secret.
Please use the blockchain timestamp.
None of transactions were delayed. I have two way of processing on transaction, either live transaction or re-queue (during heavy load, or follow downtime), both of which use timestamp for the day that bet was processed. Edit to make clear: ("processed" meaning, when TX was broadcast through bitcoin on server)
Individual timestamp does not matter, only the day of timestamp. Does not matter if transaction occur at 23:59:59 on 2012/19/10 or at 00:00:01 on 2012/19/10, it will use same secret.
You can verify transaction yourself once secret is revealed.
If you claim this is red flag on me, you claim it is red flag on Satoshidice too, because Satoshidice works same way.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Ouch. I noticed how Lucky #s tended to stay constant, and I'm like, 'hey is there a bug'? So I bet 0.5 btcs instantly after I had the lucky # of 6119.
Well no, just found out it doesn't work like that
Well no, just found out it doesn't work like that
Lucky number will only staying same for sendmany bet to multiple game addresses of same transaction
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Same here (except not *that* many), but I had become used to rather fast payouts, so a delay of two days *was* ringing the "unusual"-alarm for me.
Yes, unfortunately I had some host issue that was causing lot of problems (and is still causing problem with speed) that I'm deal with. Hopefully it will be fix soon.
On a sidenote, I'm wondering about the "value" of 0.00000001 payouts and the byte-cost for the bitcoin network of including these in a new tx. I suggest to BTCDice to offer a second set of bet-addresses, and who bets on those agrees to *not* expect those peanut loss-payouts. For saving them (especially the mining-fee for them), the house edge could be lowered a tiny bit for those bets, as an incentive to save the bitcoin network those peanut-outputs.
I will go over the math and see if I can implement something like this. Maybe top 4 or 5 most popular game.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Just for completeness sake, I just received those missing payouts.
(only losses, but that's probably just my bad luck ;-)
(only losses, but that's probably just my bad luck ;-)
As did I.
all losses ?
Can we verify the results of these TX's please.
You can verify when secret is revealed. They were losses.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
"Receiving Payouts to a Specific Address" doesn't seem to be working correctly.
Could you give me example txid? It worked fine in test I did.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Maintenance has been performed to increase speed of game. Bets should now respond in only a few seconds where they were before delayed.
Happy betting!
Happy betting!
I made a test bets and they took more time than before: 125 sec, 35 sec, 58 sec, 116 sec, 98 sec. So it's even worse. Month ago it was much faster like satoshidice or clone - up to 10 seconds.
I'm having issue with hosting that is cause for slowness. I'm try to sort out as quickly as possible.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
I've never played your game and don't intend to. I use SatoshiDice myself since they have a proven history of being reputable. You might just disappear one day and not pay out pending bets, whereas I trust that SatoshiDice won't. I might be wrong with that - it's a personsal choice who to trust.
More FUD from dooglus. For someone who does not play, you sure spend lot of time on my site.
If you prefer that I don't point out errors on your site when I see them, that's easy enough for me to accommodate.
Do not comment unless you have real issue, about bet you placed on my game, for me to deal with.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Hey BTCDice! :-) 2 weeks ago system was much faster. After bet (send BTC to specified address) it took 2-10 seconds to back the BTC.
Now it takes 50-80 seconds. What's going on? Will you fix it?
Now it takes 50-80 seconds. What's going on? Will you fix it?
I will be perform maintenance to improve speed this weekend, hopefully it resolve all issues.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
Why don't you start your own site, invest your own money and time, and then you can see how much you like it for people to tell you how they think you should run your game.
I think you mean, "Why don't you copy Erik's site, piggyback off his investment, and then mislead players so that they use you instead of him because there's no other distinguishing feature."
BTCDice is NOT satoshidice
In this, at least, you're correct
Competition is the nature of free market.
I don't mislead at all. I pay more than you do. I take less percentage than you do.
If improving upon ideas or service was never done, the world as it is today would not exist.
I did not piggyback off your investment. I simply saw an idea that was good and felt I could improve it. Instead of telling you how to run your game like Dooglus thinks he has some right to do to me, I wrote all code myself, developed site myself and invested my own time and money to make changes I saw fit to make.
Same scenario causes multiple exchanges, pools, miners, etc.
I gave users a choice.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
It looks like you've reduced the payout multipliers that are displayed, but not changed the "how it works":
From http://btcdice.com/howitworks.html :
Do you still subtract the house percentage after multiplying by the multiplier?
What about when the player loses? Do you still subtract the house percentage then too?
From http://btcdice.com/howitworks.html :
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You place a bet by sending bitcoins to one of the addresses listed in the 'Games' table. BTC Dice sees this, evaluates a win or loss and generates a return transaction. If you lose, we return your bet times 0.005 less house percent, or 0.00000001, whichever is greater. If you win, your bet is multiplied by the prize multiplier, the house percentage is subtracted, and that amount is sent back.
Do you still subtract the house percentage after multiplying by the multiplier?
What about when the player loses? Do you still subtract the house percentage then too?
It looks like you've reduced the payout multipliers that are displayed, but not changed the "how it works":
From http://btcdice.com/howitworks.html :
Do you still subtract the house percentage after multiplying by the multiplier?
What about when the player loses? Do you still subtract the house percentage then too?
From http://btcdice.com/howitworks.html :
Quote
You place a bet by sending bitcoins to one of the addresses listed in the 'Games' table. BTC Dice sees this, evaluates a win or loss and generates a return transaction. If you lose, we return your bet times 0.005 less house percent, or 0.00000001, whichever is greater. If you win, your bet is multiplied by the prize multiplier, the house percentage is subtracted, and that amount is sent back.
Do you still subtract the house percentage after multiplying by the multiplier?
What about when the player loses? Do you still subtract the house percentage then too?
Why don't you start your own site, invest your own money and time, and then you can see how much you like it for people to tell you how they think you should run your game.
BTCDice is NOT satoshidice and it very much is not DooglusDice.
Do not complain about my site not displaying something the way you want, when I tell you it is explained clearly in "how it works" page, and then when I am finally forced to change the displayed number because your complaining makes people spread FUD and claim I'm scam, you complain about "how it works" page that you ignored in the first place.
Do you complain because satoshidice says they use magic in their game? Hmmm?
Maybe I should change my entire "How it works" page to "I use magic because Dooglus thinks he owns this game."
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
My payout is proper. Only thing not matching to what dooglus said is displayed multiplier (which shows prior to house percent). I updated how it works page to reflect that.
Place a bet, do the math, it is correct.
Anyone who says not correct is not able to do math.
I not run a scam, and it slander for you to say I do.
Place a bet, do the math, it is correct.
Anyone who says not correct is not able to do math.
I not run a scam, and it slander for you to say I do.
You show a multiplier of 2x payout multiplier and Odds of 50% where in fact it is not.
You say people do not understand maths, I say your grasp of the English language and gambling terms is insufficient.
What you advertise as a "payout multiplier" is not a "payout multiplier".
No casino or game advertises odds and payouts in this manner, for the obvious reason it will confuse the player to the houses advantage.
It is misleading, intentionally or not. What is very clear is that you claim it is a preference and yet I do not see any players requesting payouts to be displayed as such, in fact I cannot envision any scenario where a player would want payouts displayed in such a confusing manner.
If you correct your payouts at a later date, please let me know so I can review and re-add you to the list.
Perhaps SCAM is a to hash label for this issue, I have been considering adding the new category MISLEADING for games in the SCAM/ PENDING list.
Your site is the first to have sufficiently confusing payouts (while still paying out clients) to warrant this..... Well done I guess.
I don't advertise as "payout multiplier", I advertise as "multiplier" and I say quite clear in "How it Works" page that house percent is taken after multiplier is calculated.
I state clearly that return is 98.35%. You look at multiplier and ignore return.
You don't read page, you make judgement without determining whether I mislead or not. You slander me for no reason.
Re: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts
My payout is proper. Only thing not matching to what dooglus said is displayed multiplier (which shows prior to house percent). I updated how it works page to reflect that.
Place a bet, do the math, it is correct.
Anyone who says not correct is not able to do math.
I not run a scam, and it slander for you to say I do.
Example:
Bet transaction: 99b31c20a44827237c1f97341fd3ce3a098d54342b6df14d13647862410e271f
http://www.btcdice.com/details.html?q=51383
Bet placed for 2 BTC to 50% odds, 2.000x multiplier, 1.65% house percent.
2 * 2.000 = 4
4 * .9835 = 3.934
I pay 3.93350000 in return, which is 98.35% return on a bet of 2, multiplied by 2. Exactly what I display on site.
Your preference to have it display different is not meaning I am scam.
Place a bet, do the math, it is correct.
Anyone who says not correct is not able to do math.
I not run a scam, and it slander for you to say I do.
Example:
Bet transaction: 99b31c20a44827237c1f97341fd3ce3a098d54342b6df14d13647862410e271f
http://www.btcdice.com/details.html?q=51383
Bet placed for 2 BTC to 50% odds, 2.000x multiplier, 1.65% house percent.
2 * 2.000 = 4
4 * .9835 = 3.934
I pay 3.93350000 in return, which is 98.35% return on a bet of 2, multiplied by 2. Exactly what I display on site.
Your preference to have it display different is not meaning I am scam.