Dealt with Bixcoin on one of these tasks, and I chose to trust him rather than use an escrow.  He paid as agreed, quickly, and responded to e-mail queries in a reasonable period of time.  A pleasure to deal with.

Shame - I would have liked to go in on this, even though the prices seem a little high.  Wasn't paying attention to the thread.  Hope you fellows who did get them love them.

This is precisely the problem.  I like the coins and I would love to have them, but at those prices I'll put the LTC on an SD card and lock them in a box somewhere.

I would be in for at least 2 brass 1LTC coins.  Thanks!

Can a set of 10 be made up of 5 bronze and 5 silver color?  If so I am interested in a set of 10.  PM sent.

Watch yourself with this one.  The taxation of bitcoins is not as complicated as a lot of people want to make it (with the possible exception of mining).

Most countries have a barter provision in the tax code.  For any country with such a provision, when you buy anything with bitcoins, you immediately owe taxes on either the value of that item (if you somehow acquired the BTC for nothing) or the capital gains embodied in the price less whatever you paid for the bitcoins at the time you bought them.  These are facts.  The additional fact is that it may be very challenging and largely unrewarding for tax authorities to ascertain the value of such items or the price you paid for a given group of bitcoins, which may make it appealing for some people to either fabricate values or forget to pay taxes entirely.  The relative ease of tax avoidance with a given instrument does not equal the absence of tax oversight for them, however.  Canada and the UK have already released specific guidance on this point, but I don't know whether other countries have explicitly addressed bitcoins with guidance.  The general view of Canada Revenue Agency and of Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs was "We don't need to make changes to the tax code.  It already provides for this stuff.  Treat it as barter or as non-commodity investment assets."

So tax codes are not changing to account for Bitcoin currently, but that is because Bitcoin is viewed as falling within the scope of existing provisions.  This view will vary from case to case and country to country, but it doesn't mean the tax authorities don't care, just that the overall market cap of Bitcoin is still low enough that they aren't trying specifically to get a piece of that particular pie with special regulations yet.

I'm not ignoring mining, but I'm not that worried about it for the moment - the easiest option for it is to still treat it like any commercially produced product with a given rate of input (hardware, percentage of mortgage if relevant, and electricity rates) but with a variable sale price, like any commodity.  I'm not saying that bitcoin IS a commodity, only that there are plenty of businesses already producing commodities and that Bitcoin's price volatility is not unique from a tax standpoint.  It's true that at the lower income levels, tax authorities generally *likely* won't care.  Bear in mind that lack of official enforcement activity is not the same as permission though.

Anyway, hopefully this sheds some additional light.  I haven't included specific references but can do later.  I need to go catch a flight, but if anybody wants specific links just ask or PM me.  Cheers!

I'm in Ireland right now, and could give you a hand... I'll send you a PM.

I'll be able to help you out with this in just over a week when I'm back on Canadian soil, if nobody else hooks you up before then.

I would absolutely love one of these if there are any still available.  I haven't had a copy of MS Office in years. It makes things a lot more convenient than some of the free open source alternatives do, on Windows at least.

Ah, fail.  I've just noticed that accounts must be over four months old, and mine is not.  If by some chance there is inadequate uptake, I'm putting my name in the ring
Thank you nonetheless for making this available to people.

I think from a common sense standpoint that's a totally accurate definition and I am with you there. I was looking at it from a standpoint of strict legal interpretation, on the off chance that somebody actually challenged it.  I just searched for legal cases defining "bodily fluids" and I cannot find any in the UK at least, nor can I find a statutory definition of what constitutes a body fluid specifically.  Rentokill UK specifically does not list faeces as a bodily fluid, but the Health and Safety Executive (PDF) does, so I think in the UK at least you would be prevented from selling crap on CoinGig on that basis at least.  Somehow I feel like there may be existing case law on this subject in North America though. I'm just not familiar with it.

I agree that it's obvious what they mean, and I wasn't suggesting that anyone should succeed in arguing a technicality like that.  I would use a catch-all like "human wastes, body parts, bodily secretions or bodily fluids".  Although I suppose that on that basis you really might get away with sending animal wastes, since those don't fall under any of the above categories. 

Animal wastes might fall under "offensive material" if it smells badly enough from far enough away - I'm not really sure what the legal test is to determine whether a material is generally held to be offensive.

Anyway, I think the bottom line is: don't ship shit.  Whether a given contract forbids it explicitly enough and whether you can get away with it or not, it's gross, unnecessary and dumb.

Make your wooden bitcoins, IronCross!  You had a potential customer base for those.

Ah, understood.  I really wasn't trying to be critical there, but I scratched my head hard as to what your meaning was.

Agreed, I think it would be amazing if I could go into Starbucks or Chipotle or wherever and pay directly with BTC using my phone.

Chipotle refusing to accept BTC at the moment is the best thing that has happened since McDonald's?

That would be extremely cool. 

What I am truly looking forward is getting to a point where there are 3D printers which can print with metals, even soft ones.  Or with variable feedstocks rather than a single industrially-produced plastic wire.

I'm definitely interested in one of these printers.  If the instructions are complete enough, I'd consider cobbling one together to start off with.  I'll keep an eye out here.

Yup, even CoinGig has a specific rule against it.


Well... technically human wastes aren't bodily fluids so they do have a slight loophole here.  Nonetheless it's pretty clear what sort of behaviour they are trying to avoid.  This kind.

Yup, I get that.  That's why I specified "print additional parts, acquire additional parts" since you'll have to buy / machine / trade some rather than printing them.  I hear you though.

And I've received it.  It was a pleasure dealing with you!

I agree - my experience of that was being given a horrible old computer, upgrading it, and then subsequently building an all new one.  I'm a fan of that approach, and so I'll likely emulate here.  Get a 3D printer, use it, print additional parts, acquire additional parts, build a better one, sell the original.

Price would determine which of those 3 options - I'd prefer a fully functional assembled printer, but based on price would probably compromise and go for a complete parts kit with instructions.

My time is a little limited at the moment.  So for my first one, I'd definitely prefer to buy rather than build.  If/when you have a finished unit, let me know.  I'd be interested in buying one depending on the price.  The idea of printing upgrades for my own 3D printer boggles my mind.  It's like having a robot that upgrades itself.

Kind of let this thread drift away.  I've only recently begun to learn about 3D printing and see what its capabilities are.  I thought it was kind of gimmicky and limited to doing coasters and stuff.

Thingiverse has basically blown my mind, though.  I'm very interested in learning more about this stuff.  I'll PM you for more info.

Good grief.  OK, that was a trip down the rabbit hole.  Enough internet for now.