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Nobody is worried that this is just a complete snapshot of the 'old' BTC-E with the chatbox and the database before it went down and nothing else (considering the trading backend/withdrawal system is not active).
What if it's just exactly as I mentioned in the first sentence and everyone logging in is actually giving their complete login info to people that want to have full access to your BTC in those accounts?
What if it's just exactly as I mentioned in the first sentence and everyone logging in is actually giving their complete login info to people that want to have full access to your BTC in those accounts?
I think what you're saying is possible, but not very likely.
....On a serious note, we have 3 options,
-they will just go silent and everything is lost
-refund or partial refund
-resuming of btc-e life, somehow
So it's a 66% chance
I think your analysis is logical
I don't give a %$^&. My $$ in there was not illegal and they still stole it. Bastards.
Take a look at the poll on this page. It really makes you think...
http://pakcoin.info/forum/index.php?threads/btc-e-com-top-ten-bitcoin-exchange-seized-%E2%80%93-bitcoins-stolen.324/
Definitely worth watching and sharing...
'US lawmakers forced to support Israel' Cynthia McKinney on PressTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJzO6EihCC4
'US lawmakers forced to support Israel' Cynthia McKinney on PressTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJzO6EihCC4
There's a crowdfunding site for Pakcoins. It's http://www.pakhope.org
Israel is a strategic partner of America in the middle East. Never America will not act contrary to the interests of Israel. Besides not everyone in the world consider the land occupied. The Arab world's symbol of terror and therefore nobody will not support.
"The First Amendment bars Congress from "abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press .".... "
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Freedom_of_speech_and_of_the_press
The Boycott, Sanctions and Divestment Movement is under attack; this time by US lawmakers. The movement seeks to raise global awareness about the racist policies of the Israeli regime and discourage companies from doing business with the occupiers of Palestinian lands.
But now US lawmakers are trying to outlaw the movement: A group of Senators are preparing a bill that would penalize any American who supports the movement: a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison. The bill is said to have been drafted with the assistance of American Israel Public Affairs Committee or AIPAC. A similar bill has also been introduced in the House and so far it has garnered the support of over 230 representatives.....
Source:
http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/07/24/529564/BDS-under-attack-by-US-lawmakers
But now US lawmakers are trying to outlaw the movement: A group of Senators are preparing a bill that would penalize any American who supports the movement: a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison. The bill is said to have been drafted with the assistance of American Israel Public Affairs Committee or AIPAC. A similar bill has also been introduced in the House and so far it has garnered the support of over 230 representatives.....
Source:
http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/07/24/529564/BDS-under-attack-by-US-lawmakers
they manage to land this thing they are my go-to exchange for sure
Is this a B-17?
They should refunding according to pro level trollbox comment history. Pretty much the only real way to ensure justice
Every once in a while I would see a useful piece of news or advice out of that trollbox.
As annoying as it was, I do miss it.
Take a look at this forum poll that someone put up, it actually makes you wonder...
http://pakcoin.info/forum/index.php?threads/btc-e-com-top-ten-bitcoin-exchange-seized-%E2%80%93-bitcoins-stolen.324/
http://pakcoin.info/forum/index.php?threads/btc-e-com-top-ten-bitcoin-exchange-seized-%E2%80%93-bitcoins-stolen.324/
Was the following link posted earlier?
http://forklog.com/c-ethereum-koshelka-birzhi-btc-e-vyvedeno-94-5-mln/
I couldn't find it if it was.
http://forklog.com/c-ethereum-koshelka-birzhi-btc-e-vyvedeno-94-5-mln/
I couldn't find it if it was.
I think it would be in the best interests of the other operators of BTC-e to create a new domain and transfer the old website to a new domain. They can then allow their old users to access their accounts and withdraw them to other wallets off the site.
Not only would that be the right(moral) thing to do, I think it could also limit the amount of charges the US government will levy against them. Realistically if they take all the coins from everyone then the government will almost certainly try to put additional charges on them. They may do something like a single charge for each user who had their coins taken.
Someone posted earlier that there were 100,000 users on BTC-e. If you do the math in that scenario it adds up to a ton of charges, even if there were 100 admins on BTC-e, you're still talking the potential for a 100 years or more worth of potential jail time for each admin.
Not only would that be the right(moral) thing to do, I think it could also limit the amount of charges the US government will levy against them. Realistically if they take all the coins from everyone then the government will almost certainly try to put additional charges on them. They may do something like a single charge for each user who had their coins taken.
Someone posted earlier that there were 100,000 users on BTC-e. If you do the math in that scenario it adds up to a ton of charges, even if there were 100 admins on BTC-e, you're still talking the potential for a 100 years or more worth of potential jail time for each admin.
Straight from the horse's mouth:
Russian National And Bitcoin Exchange Charged In 21-Count Indictment For Operating Alleged International Money Laundering Scheme And Allegedly Laundering Funds From Hack Of Mt. Gox
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bitcoin-exchange-charged-21-count-indictment-operating-alleged
I can't see Putin or the Russians not doing anything in retaliation for this arrest.
Russian National And Bitcoin Exchange Charged In 21-Count Indictment For Operating Alleged International Money Laundering Scheme And Allegedly Laundering Funds From Hack Of Mt. Gox
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bitcoin-exchange-charged-21-count-indictment-operating-alleged
I can't see Putin or the Russians not doing anything in retaliation for this arrest.
There are a lot of different perspectives out there. All we can do is hope for the best in all of this.
Owner Of Russia's Largest BTC Exchange Arrested Money May Be Lost
"... According to the latest report, Bits.media received information from the administrator of the qugla.com service, which conducted the marketing campaign of Humaniq, saying that Alexander Vinnik is indeed one of the owners and administrators of BTC-e.
He stated, that another administrator of BTC-e probably has access to the exchange, and now, most likely tries to solve the situation. He also stated that the future of BTC-e exchange is uncertain and user funds may be never returned. He continued..."
Source:
https://coinidol.com/owner-of-btc-e-arrested/
Owner Of Russia's Largest BTC Exchange Arrested Money May Be Lost
"... According to the latest report, Bits.media received information from the administrator of the qugla.com service, which conducted the marketing campaign of Humaniq, saying that Alexander Vinnik is indeed one of the owners and administrators of BTC-e.
He stated, that another administrator of BTC-e probably has access to the exchange, and now, most likely tries to solve the situation. He also stated that the future of BTC-e exchange is uncertain and user funds may be never returned. He continued..."
Source:
https://coinidol.com/owner-of-btc-e-arrested/
Russian Embassy Confirms Detention of Russian on US Wanted List in Greece
The Russian embassy in Greece confirmed to Sputnik that a Russian national who is on the wanted list in the United States over money laundering via bitcoin transactions was detained in the country...
Source:
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201707261055896195-russia-embassy-greece-detention/
The Russian embassy in Greece confirmed to Sputnik that a Russian national who is on the wanted list in the United States over money laundering via bitcoin transactions was detained in the country...
Source:
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201707261055896195-russia-embassy-greece-detention/
They said "The Russian Foreign Ministry has repeatedly accused the US of "hunting" and detaining Russian nationals abroad.". It seems that Russians are "feeling" this arrest when they reacted that way.
It's very possible the Russian government will retaliate in some way if Vinik isn't released soon.
Russian Embassy Confirms Detention of Russian on US Wanted List in Greece
The Russian embassy in Greece confirmed to Sputnik that a Russian national who is on the wanted list in the United States over money laundering via bitcoin transactions was detained in the country...
Source:
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201707261055896195-russia-embassy-greece-detention/
The Russian embassy in Greece confirmed to Sputnik that a Russian national who is on the wanted list in the United States over money laundering via bitcoin transactions was detained in the country...
Source:
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201707261055896195-russia-embassy-greece-detention/
I know there are apparently people who specialize in recovering lost wallets and tracking tumbled funds on the blockchain. There must be more people like me who had a lot, but not most of our money on BTC-e. Perhaps we can discuss how we might go about hiring people who might be able to help us. There must be people more knowledgeable than I am about this stuff out there who could at least help investigate where the money is and possibly who has control of it. I just happen to have a screen shot of my finances right before it shut down. People probably still have cookies on their computers from the last time they looked at their finance pages in case the user info can't be recovered.
Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but if anyone has any ideas, lets start brainstorming together.
Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but if anyone has any ideas, lets start brainstorming together.
Those money are gone. Bye!
You can brainstorm whatever you want how long you want you won't be able to get a satoshi.
It's either that his friends emptied the vault or the fed will get those coins.
Bitcoins aren't really very anonymous, you can make it time consuming to track you by tumbling, but not impossible if someone has the incentive to do so. I imagine it will be very hard for anyone to actually use those bitcoins without their identity being revealed at some point. At which point they will most assuredly be tortured by hired men to hand over their crypto. Whoever stole the money just made thousands of enemies, many of whom still have significant amounts of money and know how to access the dark web.
If they Fed's have it, that could be a different story, but if that's the case, why did someone take the time to replace the cloudflare page with an official looking "Down for maintenance" page? If they FBI took it down, they usually like to brag about it.
I think you're right. If the US government got its hands on the site then we'd see a placholder page something like this:
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-055225b0df262b4fc2d51f21a577e1a2