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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
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Blackall
on 13/05/2014, 03:28:34 UTC
Oh look,

I go afk for 3 hours and IE is still ranting about how great he is and how he has come to save the people by heroically taking donations for his stupid ideas.

I thought that's pretty much what he had done for the last three months?  Cheesy
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 12/05/2014, 19:06:21 UTC
So, now that the wall is gone, back to the FUD:

ALL IS GOING TO COLLAPSE SELL EVERYTHING NOW
Cheesy Grin
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 12/05/2014, 18:58:48 UTC
But is the Live cast today or not?

7pm sir. Obviously you don't frequent anything BC related or else you would know this. Thats why your credibility is laughable, at best.

McKie

I'm just asking because I normally use your live casts to put my kids sleeping.

They usually fall a sleep with crap.
Maybe give them a teddy bear or something instead?
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 12/05/2014, 13:12:28 UTC
As a potential investor, doing my due diligence of this coin and deciding if and how much I am going to invest in BC I have to say that it is very annoying to read about "IE" and his actions all the time. I want to know if I should invest 20 BTC in BC or not, but if I see that this whole tread is dominated with personal remarks about "IE" I am really wondering if this coin is any good as it seems just one individual can influence the future of this coin.

I want to read more about the BC community, future plans, new ideas etc.
Wacth Blackcast today ^^ and you will see some light.

Smiley This explains it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk#t=44
Lol Chris, your trolling has really dropped in quality lately. Don't you have some USB sticks to peddle? Maybe you can expand your operations from your kitchen to your garage and really make it big?  Cheesy
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 12/05/2014, 10:09:34 UTC
fanboytalk


So even if your messiah himself openly says he is dumping his coins, you still keep on pushing this. Did he by any chance already cough up some proof of this foundation dumping?

For real though, IE is manipulating the price down ATM with his announcement and waiting to buy back, the fanboys love to be sodomized and are shouting for more.


Edit:
Props to IE though, you need to be very clever to plan this. Get the fanboys to sell their BC cheap while cheering him


LOL...things never change. Yes I am slowly liquidating my BC, but I am not currently manipulating the price. I have no plans to buy, I acquired most of my coins around 500 sat so I already received a great ROI even at this level. The day Soepkip closed the original thread the price has been slowly falling. I do not know what you guys thought would happen when you started personally attacking the most vocal and visible person in the BC community? You and others wanted me "out" of BC and now you got you wish. Be careful for what you wish for because you just might get it. While the price is deflating and your portfolio is slowly bleeding to death, where is the Foundation, dev team, and the multipool? Wait..I know the answer to this...they are dumping their BC and helping Cinni...
Everyone likes to criticise IE for what he says, but no one ever gives him credit for how loud he says it  Roll Eyes
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 17:59:13 UTC
Most level-headed post I've read in a while. Wish I could keep as calm as you in the face of all the trolling. Hats off to you Smiley

You do know we all know you two are one in the same? It is very easy to tell...but I wont give it away, I will let you figure it out...lmao
Seriously Chris? A few days ago you accused me of being Soepkip. Now I'm Arigard, maybe next week you'll think I'm Coblee  Cheesy
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 17:53:07 UTC
Quote from: Iconic
Do you think calling me by my birth name upsets me? It just shows me I know how to get under your skin. You can insult me and post all the fud you like, but you will always be a nobody. People like you will always talk about people like me because your only achievement in life was passing through your mother's birth canal. So whether people on this forum "like" me or not, at least they know about me. No one knows about "Blackall", and no one ever will. You are an insignificant little troll that only purpose on this forum is to watch what I am doing. Without me you have no purpose, I give you purpose on this forum. That is what hurts you the most because you already know this. Your obsession with me is so severe you come to my thread just for attention, I sincerely feel sorry for you. It must upset you that people are asking "Where is Iconic going next", while no one cares where you are going. If you logged off under Blackall or your other screen name no one would ever miss you. I have started a trend of USB cards and changed how crypto is marketed, your crowning achievement is posting about me. Every time someone pulls out a BlackCoin card they will think about IconicExpert aka Christopher, and that includes you. But what I have done for BlackCoin in 2 months was just child's play, the best of what I can do is yet to come.

All this arguing has been going on for weeks now. You gotta stop. This is the internet, it is impossible for people to control what other people do or say. Even in moderated forums, there will still be somewhere that someone throws out insults of accusations. As the businessman it falls on you to be the one to rise above.

You have a difference of opinion to other members of the Blackcoin community who have a difference of opinion to you. People are going to troll you to get a response, it's just how the internet works. You will never win an argument on the internet, as much as you feel you just wrote an amazing life changing post, it's the internet, where reason dies and people who can't in real life can behind a keyboard.

Stop obsessing over every little thing that is said against you, having insecurity breakdowns about who sees who as the biggest fish in the Blackcoin pond and get on with doing the projects you have promised, it's the only way you will 'win' any argument. Over the last week you have convinced a bunch of people (including me) that you cannot back up what you say and sitting around on a forums all day boasting about accomplishments you haven't even achieved yet doesn't help you in any way. Nobody cares about your past, nobody. The only thing people care about is right now, hell most of crypto are so fickle they only care if you can get them profits in the next hour.  

So stop worrying about other people, take rat4's advice, shut up for a few weeks and finish the jobs you got given money for. That should be your first priority. I honestly don't care what you credentials are, I don't care about what you have done in the past, I only care about what you are doing now and it isn't what I would expect from the credentials you keep bragging on about.

Everyone has to start somewhere, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg and at some point in their careers some fat cat at the top with a resume turned around around and laughed them off as being kids only to watch them go onto to incredible success. Don't be that guy. Competition is good, it's healthy, but bitterness, ego and arrogance isn't. These Blackcoin 'kids' have nothing to lose, they showed their face, but that's about it. You made this whole thing about you, your family, your success, your company, your ego. That was your choice, so don't be out raged when people start using it against you. This is the internet, that shit is going to happen and if you are using it as a tactic to play the victim, then it's pretty sad. You gave people that ammunition and in many cases you force fed people that ammunition.     

I genuinely want you to succeed Iconic, having two rival camps battling against each other to bring more and more success to Blackcoin has incredible potential as long as it is a healthy rivalry. Products get better when they have fierce competition. I bought a Blackcoin Card, I think the idea is great and when it arrives I will tweet about it and publicize it for you myself, but stop talking talking talking all the time and act. Stop blowing things out of proportion, stop over endulging on projects and lead by example and you might just get back some of the support you lost in the last week. If you care about Blackcoin and not just yourself and your own ego, then prove it.  
Most level-headed post I've read in a while. Wish I could keep as calm as you in the face of all the trolling. Hats off to you Smiley
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 17:45:31 UTC
I mean IE even said that he's selling his Blackcoin, and yet he still posts hourly about it.

Almost all of your posts include my name or reference to me. I have never seen one person so focused on another individual, it is scary. And I do not post every hour, my post history proves that.
Some of my 10+ posts includes responses to you, and you take that as me being obsessed with you Christopher? I don't know what to say to that. Nice going not denying you trying to hurt Blackcoin though. It's nice to finally have that out in the open, albeit in a very roundabout way as is your style. Also, thanks for removing my reply to you in the other thread. It's nice to see that you're so worried about an open debate that you have to resort to extreme levels of censorship.

At this point I've pretty much given up hope about you. You're insecure to the point of obsession, which might not be strange coming from someone logged onto a forum 12-15 hours a day. I said it in the other thread and I'll say it again, you've contributed with three projects to Blackcoin so far. You're peddling painted USB sticks from your kitchen, you failed to gain enough support for your public pump and you failed to get enough money together for your Wall Street idea. Nice going "Expert"  Roll Eyes

Do you think calling me by my birth name upsets me?
MASSIVE HATEFILLED WALL OF TEXT
No, obviously not Cheesy
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 16:19:54 UTC
I mean IE even said that he's selling his Blackcoin, and yet he still posts hourly about it.

Almost all of your posts include my name or reference to me. I have never seen one person so focused on another individual, it is scary. And I do not post every hour, my post history proves that.
Some of my 10+ posts includes responses to you, and you take that as me being obsessed with you Christopher? I don't know what to say to that. Nice going not denying you trying to hurt Blackcoin though. It's nice to finally have that out in the open, albeit in a very roundabout way as is your style. Also, thanks for removing my reply to you in the other thread. It's nice to see that you're so worried about an open debate that you have to resort to extreme levels of censorship.

At this point I've pretty much given up hope about you. You're insecure to the point of obsession, which might not be strange coming from someone logged onto a forum 12-15 hours a day. I said it in the other thread and I'll say it again, you've contributed with three projects to Blackcoin so far. You're peddling painted USB sticks from your kitchen, you failed to gain enough support for your public pump and you failed to get enough money together for your Wall Street idea. Nice going "Expert"  Roll Eyes
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 14:57:09 UTC

Hmm, you're probably right. I have to admit it's difficult not to respond to trolls and people spreading lies and nonsense. I think it's partly due to the forum format. It's easier for idiots to insert themselves into the conversation here than on Reddit, as the posts take up so much space that they might divert the whole thread. At least on Reddit you can downvote and upvote to get more informative posts more visible. What would you suggest we do regarding all the mudslinging? Just ignore it? Move to Reddit? Something else? I agree that this might not be sustainable as it distracts people from doing real work, like you do.

That's why I thought that locking the thread completely was better than a new moderated version. The environment inside the altcoin community is toxic, because there are so many trolls and scammers and snake-oil salesmen. And it's so easy for one or two trolls to control the conversation in a single thread format. I think that an altcoin can only flourish when it moves well beyond this forum. For example, I bet many dogecoin owners and probably most litecoin owners don't hang around here.

Nearly everyone comes out looking worse after a poo-flinging contest, no matter who was right or wrong. Only the trolls win. You'd swear from reading the last few pages of this thread that most posters were out to destroy the coin, instead of being owners and investors in it.

Don't feed the trolls!
Yeah, it does seem that way doesn't it? If you and I have a conversation somewhere, and someone comes and starts yelling about us being part of a conspiracy we can just walk away. However here you're sort of forced to listen to them which makes it heaven for trolls and fudsters. All successful coins have moved away from here at this point, this forum is basically a pump-and-dump fest at this point.

As for a lot of people wanting to destroy the coin, I think you're spot on. A ton of people posting here are probably either trolls who want to stir the pot to get a reaction, or investors in other coins wanting to mess with the competition. I mean IE even said that he's selling his Blackcoin, and yet he still posts hourly about it. Why would he do it if he doesn't want to bring it down to make room for a competitor he's planning to invest in? Maybe we should talk to Soepkip about moving completely to Reddit and our own forums. I mean, we're not going to have any trouble getting attention once the PR starts and we'll avoid most of the petty fighting and mudslinging that goes on now.
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 14:34:01 UTC

there's still potential and large number of real supporters of this coin !!!

maybe you will call me naive...but I'm still holding my coins..
don't forget CoinKite is coming, it's a very rare chance for a alt crypto we have to respect that

Personally I wouldnt call you naive, especially when you bring Coinkite into the conversation. Having personally purchased the Terminals to bring to the UK, I'm very excited by the new possiblities opening up as a result.

It is precisely this kind of stuff, hardware AND software that will take crypto off the forums and into the hands of real users.

Tie ups with games, retailers, products and services and Institutions like Universities etc will make all the difference. Focussing on just one group is not going to work as there are so many possiblities and opportunities.

What saddens me is that so many people really have missed this... BlackCoin on Coinkite gives people the affordable way to use crypto above Bitcoin. While people argue over whether its 28k or 35k sats the real obvious thing here is ... ITS STILL CHEAP considering what it's going to offer you!! Greater adoption equals better price. Work WITH Coinkite to make this happen. Buy a Terminal, become a mobile ATM and sell your Coins right there right then!! Help them it helps us. And if you've done your research you'll see they offer a business model that ANYONE OF YOU can make money from, whether thats by commission only, the BTC you hold or the BlackCoin you hold.

You lot get so wrapped up with flinging poop at each other you cant see the business opportunities for the poop. some of you say your professional this and pro that. I've yet to see it from most of you. I've seen lots of claims about this and that and still no evidence of success. If some of you put as much energy in trying to make this a success as you do shouting it down things would be a lot shinier... for YOU. And I say that last bit very deliberately...for YOU..... because for ME they're going to be great. There's an emormous amount of hard work to do before then mind, but thats part of the fun and the challenge.. You have to WANT something bad enough to make it succeed. I will be going from Computer Store to Board room all over the area selling Coinkite/BLK and BTC, evangelising the future we all know thats coming. Notice, thats NOT sitting behind a screen howling at some poop flinger, it's good old fashioned work, something I'm gonna guess some of you have yet to experience based on the immature BS here sometimes.  Change that and change your destiny.
And before some lights their little pocket rocket in excitement over "oooh Foundation Board member doing Coinkite" .. remember this.

1. I am a Businessman, I am allowed to make a living. I choose to make that living in Information Technology and Associated Services. I've been good at it for a very long time. Running businesses that serviced Microsoft and Sun Microsystems, The Royal Society of Chemistry, RNIB and many more....
2. Being a Board member will not give me a sales advantage to anyone, considering that most people are only just getting used to Bitcoin let alone BlackCoin, and where they are getting into BTC its on a small scale at present ... not millionaire stuff yet....
3. Ask yourself this and try to give an honest answer....What are you SELFLESSLY doing to make things happen in a positive way today? Not just for you, but for the Community AND for BlackCoin.

Hmm, you're probably right. I have to admit it's difficult not to respond to trolls and people spreading lies and nonsense. I think it's partly due to the forum format. It's easier for idiots to insert themselves into the conversation here than on Reddit, as the posts take up so much space that they might divert the whole thread. At least on Reddit you can downvote and upvote to get more informative posts more visible. What would you suggest we do regarding all the mudslinging? Just ignore it? Move to Reddit? Something else? I agree that this might not be sustainable as it distracts people from doing real work, like you do.
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 11:09:18 UTC
Today, at 5:00 PM - or - in around 10 hours from now, the BlackCoinPool v2.0 will be life.

The back- and frontend have been completely written from scratch and it is NOT a custom implementation of NOMP.

I'm excited.

www.blackcoinpool.com ..

.. 10 hours
This is great Smiley We might be back to +10GH/s within a week.
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Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 00:38:58 UTC
So please stop Fucking Up the Discussion.

You ask who the fuck Wizfarm is:
Well, he is the guy that started the BlackCast thing.

Various questions have been posed towards him there:
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/251fzg/blackcast_2_your_host_wizfarm_with_soepkip_maarx/

They will be addressed.

Now, please stop Fucking Up the Discussion.

In the meantime if you want to talk to me, hit me up in IRC.

PS: I know his intentions are not clear and that this all seems shady business. Give him the chance to make it right. He feels really bad.
Okay who is this aimed at?
I think if aimed at me we can do great things and move on as long as the black coin (what ever) group does not back people that hurt the coin.
And publicly do it weather the dumb holders realize it or not. But I will not hurt my fellow Black coin holder or be asked to keep quiet so they may be hurt.
It just wont happen.
I will be there for the Black coin holders as you should.


Thanks. I support blackcoin holders, like you Smiley
Anyone selling it off to go support other coins I dont support.

But let Wizfarm make his case.. He didnt sell/ dump blackcoin to do this. He is an investor type of guy that looks for opportunities. He is long term on BlackCoin, but let us talk to him on the BlackCast Smiley
I like Wiz Smiley I think the cinni thing is a little weird, but there's nothing wrong making money on another coin if the opportunity is there as long as he doesn't bail on Blackcoin. I'm sure he has a good reason for it. Hope he doesn't feel too bad, it's not like he'll be lynched or anything. I think it's just that he's a well-liked and respected member of the team and people got a little worried thinking he had jumped to another coin.
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Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 00:32:37 UTC

Hi Barrabas, you write long posts. Please TL DR and state what you want from me, anyone, or blackcoin. Let me know what your intentions are.

Hi Maarten, you write very shorts posts and dodge the tough questions.

What do I want from you, and anyone related to BlackCoin?  Total TRANSPARENCY. Short enough?

Who are you again?

Hi Barabbas

http://maarx.nl/5000.txt

You will find all the transactions that have happened in the first 5000 blocks of blackcoin.

Please feel free to investigate and support your earlier claims with proof.

Hi Maarten,

where is the transparency? Is that a virus? if it is a text, put it here, don't send me to no known links because I will not bite.

I ALREADY found the transactions that happened in the first 5000 blocks: 40-50 million coins. I have the proof, as I have stated. Are you disputint that fact?

Again: who are you? what have you done for BC? what are you going to do at the Amsterdam conference?

And what's with the outrage about Wizzfarm now? the guy ALREADY hosted the first Black Cast... It went so well that they are doing it a weekly occurrence by which the usual bullshit will be sold to the fan club and blinded-by-greed sheep.



It's a text document. You can open it. So you have proof, as you stated.

Now show me the proof Smiley


If it is a text document, just put it here.

Does it say that 40-50 million coins were NOT mined in the first 3 days? Because if it says that, there's no need to even look at it since that is what I am saying...

I will post a very public link with screen shots of irrefutable evidence that what I just stated, 40-50 million coin s were mined in the first 3 days. Are you contesting that as not being true?

Be as concise or prolific as you deem necessary.

IF THE FACT IS REALLY TRUE, IT DOES NOT PROVES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BECAUSE THESE COINS MAY HAVE BEEN SOLD AT 500,1000, 2000, 3000, etc...

 IF YOU WANT TO DO AN AUDIT, MAKE A DECENT SERVICE, AND PROVE THAT THESE COINS ARE BEING SOLD NOW IN 30k.
Pretty much this. No one thought Blackcoin would be worth much in the beginning. Tons of idiots like me sold at 5k thinking we had made a great deal Sad The coins are very widely distributed today as far as I can see. Especially after all the swings we've had lately.

I BOUGHT 200K AT 2000 SATS, BLACKCOIN STILL VERY CHEAP!

BUY, BUY, BUY AND HOLD, HOLD, HOLD
Lol yeah, I actually bought back in later seeing all the things the dev team have planned. Technical features can be copied instantly in this game, but community and a driven team is something that almost no other coin has. From the top of my head Dogecoin and Litecoin are the only altcoins that have equally driven, articulate, friendly and competent community as Blackcoin.
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Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 00:16:01 UTC

Hi Barrabas, you write long posts. Please TL DR and state what you want from me, anyone, or blackcoin. Let me know what your intentions are.

Hi Maarten, you write very shorts posts and dodge the tough questions.

What do I want from you, and anyone related to BlackCoin?  Total TRANSPARENCY. Short enough?

Who are you again?

Hi Barabbas

http://maarx.nl/5000.txt

You will find all the transactions that have happened in the first 5000 blocks of blackcoin.

Please feel free to investigate and support your earlier claims with proof.

Hi Maarten,

where is the transparency? Is that a virus? if it is a text, put it here, don't send me to no known links because I will not bite.

I ALREADY found the transactions that happened in the first 5000 blocks: 40-50 million coins. I have the proof, as I have stated. Are you disputint that fact?

Again: who are you? what have you done for BC? what are you going to do at the Amsterdam conference?

And what's with the outrage about Wizzfarm now? the guy ALREADY hosted the first Black Cast... It went so well that they are doing it a weekly occurrence by which the usual bullshit will be sold to the fan club and blinded-by-greed sheep.



It's a text document. You can open it. So you have proof, as you stated.

Now show me the proof Smiley


If it is a text document, just put it here.

Does it say that 40-50 million coins were NOT mined in the first 3 days? Because if it says that, there's no need to even look at it since that is what I am saying...

I will post a very public link with screen shots of irrefutable evidence that what I just stated, 40-50 million coin s were mined in the first 3 days. Are you contesting that as not being true?

Be as concise or prolific as you deem necessary.

IF THE FACT IS REALLY TRUE, IT DOES NOT PROVES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BECAUSE THESE COINS MAY HAVE BEEN SOLD AT 500,1000, 2000, 3000, etc...

 IF YOU WANT TO DO AN AUDIT, MAKE A DECENT SERVICE, AND PROVE THAT THESE COINS ARE BEING SOLD NOW IN 30k.
Pretty much this. No one thought Blackcoin would be worth much in the beginning. Tons of idiots like me sold at 5k thinking we had made a great deal Sad The coins are very widely distributed today as far as I can see. Especially after all the swings we've had lately.
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Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO
by
Blackall
on 11/05/2014, 00:05:18 UTC
...
Does it say that 40-50 million coins were NOT mined in the first 3 days? Because if it says that, there's no need to even look at it since that is what I am saying...
...
YEA When you mine "all" suply IN 7 days then
you will have ~40in 3 days... WTF all we know about that
THIS WAS KNOWN from 10days before BC started

maarx pointed that all mined coins were with transparency:

-no hidden super blocks(like AC) ext.
-no stealth mine(like Cinni 4% of all coins with 800khs)...
-no premine scam like WC / Dump premine and run away.


_____________________________________________
eg. NXT sold 25% of coins in IPO to 72 people for 21BTC...
75% tooked their dev team Cheesy this is spirit...

barabbas - what are you looking for ?

Barabbas is an epic troll like none other I have seen at Bitcointalk before.

I would love to know what motivates him because something is driving him to write these neverending troll essays that go nowhere. As soon as one gets beat down, he pops up with another load of rubbish. It's like whack-a-mole  Cheesy
Lol this might be the best description I've read in a while Cheesy His post really are a lot like whack-a-mole! He makes an outrageous claim that gets disproved and he immediately jumps to the next without a seconds pause. I too find it very confusing about why exactly he puts so much time into making up these crazy theories about "The Black Hand" controlling the entire market. I mean, at least make up an original name for your craziness! The Black Hand sounds like every evil organization in every spy novel ever published. It's a little worrisome that his posts starts to sound more and more unabomber-ish though. Hopefully he won't start to blow up building Tongue
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Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO
by
Blackall
on 10/05/2014, 23:51:02 UTC

Hi Barrabas, you write long posts. Please TL DR and state what you want from me, anyone, or blackcoin. Let me know what your intentions are.

Hi Maarten, you write very shorts posts and dodge the tough questions.

What do I want from you, and anyone related to BlackCoin?  Total TRANSPARENCY. Short enough?

Who are you again?

Hi Barabbas

http://maarx.nl/5000.txt

You will find all the transactions that have happened in the first 5000 blocks of blackcoin.

Please feel free to investigate and support your earlier claims with proof.

Hi Maarten,

where is the transparency? Is that a virus? if it is a text, put it here, don't send me to no known links because I will not bite.

I ALREADY found the transactions that happened in the first 5000 blocks: 40-50 million coins. I have the proof, as I have stated. Are you disputint that fact?

Again: who are you? what have you done for BC? what are you going to do at the Amsterdam conference?

And what's with the outrage about Wizzfarm now? the guy ALREADY hosted the first Black Cast... It went so well that they are doing it a weekly occurrence by which the usual bullshit will be sold to the fan club and blinded-by-greed sheep.


Wow, really? You seriously think he'll try to send you a malware when he's completely open about his name, address etc? I mean, the link ends in .txt for gods sake! Of course it's a text file.
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Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO
by
Blackall
on 10/05/2014, 14:31:33 UTC

Thanks, I've read most of it. As I said I think he's pretty good at the PR side of things, but whatever good he does on the PR side he counteracts by a huge amount with his other posts. I hope he'll see that he does not come across as a likeable guy online. I can't speak for his offline behaviour, they can sometimes be quite different, but I hope he'll just realize this and try to keep it professional from now on.

I think he does....

and you also have to understand the man...he really devoted himself for this coin and because someone feels threatened he got attacked for no obvious reason and then it just became a descending spiral...

he's also a self made guardian of the BlackCoin.......the Black Knight as he was named before....(I have to find the logo)


I do believe all his actions are for the good of this coin and I think we should all support him
No, that's factually incorrect. He recently posted a long post detailing why he thinks everyone managing the coin sucks. This is both unprofessional and very juvenile. Furthermore he's accused everyone involved to be part of a massive conspiracy to manipulate the price and using fake accounts to attack him. He's also threatened numerous people, myself included, to an extent that legal action could be taken. This is quite delusional and shows that he might not be at a good enough place emotionally where he can manage a project of this size. He has attacked members of the core team for a long time now, and they have either ignored him or responded very professionally. Actually seeing their response, or lack thereof, has made me quite confident in their ability to manage the coin. Staying professional and level-headed when attacked is something very important in the business world.

Again; I do think IE could contribute a lot on the PR side because he obviously knows a lot about that. But every contribution there is irrelevant when mixed with all the hate and conspiracy. Just look at this thread; 1/3 of the posts are his own, 1/3 are people who are barely literate, 1/3 are people who argue with him. It's just not a good base to build upon. I mean, this thread is supposed to be about PR, but almost all of his posts here are him insulting people.

He wants to take a business approach to everything, so imagine if Bill Gates spent 12+ hours a day on the Microsoft forums getting into petty fights, threatening people and calling members of his board incompetent. It's just not feasible, no successful businessperson would ever do that. I hope he realized this, puts the ego aside and starts to do as he preaches.

To IE: Sorry if I've insulted you in the past. You're obviously under a massive amount of stress and I hope you consider taking a few days off to cool down and then come back with a more positive outlook.
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Board Announcements (Altcoins)
Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO
by
Blackall
on 10/05/2014, 14:04:38 UTC

The PR firm asked them to wait with releasing more info until Monday.

And that is IE point, then they should have done a coordinated release.

I be the PR firm are already confused by the so called 'official line'   Undecided
They'll have one on Monday I believe, this was just a sneakpeak for people who are interested. I think the problem with IE is that while he seems to know a little about marketing, 90% of his posts are either personal insults, threats or very intricate conspiracy theories with no basis. Even if he managed to contribute quite a bit to the coins PR side, he would scare away most serious investors. It's not really feasible to have someone who's had several public meltdowns, and threatened to reveal his customers personal information to get back on one guy, directly involved with a project of this size. If he really wants to see a return on his investmen I suggest that he stop the massive hatefilled campains against everyone who disagress with him, and either keep quiet for a month to see what happens or indeed just work on the PR side without attacking someone every 30 seconds.

He's not going to take over the coin. The developer, 99% of the community and the core team are not on his side. I hope he realizes this as soon as possible and either moves to a project of his own, or just does what he does best and work on PR without the massive FUD.

don't start this over again..


just read the closed thread from the BEGINNING and you will see who Iconic really is !!!!
Thanks, I've read most of it. As I said I think he's pretty good at the PR side of things, but whatever good he does on the PR side he counteracts by a huge amount with his other posts. I hope he'll see that he does not come across as a likeable guy online. I can't speak for his offline behaviour, they can sometimes be quite different, but I hope he'll just realize this and try to keep it professional from now on.
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Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO
by
Blackall
on 10/05/2014, 13:52:49 UTC

The PR firm asked them to wait with releasing more info until Monday.

And that is IE point, then they should have done a coordinated release.

I be the PR firm are already confused by the so called 'official line'   Undecided
They'll have one on Monday I believe, this was just a sneakpeak for people who are interested. I think the problem with IE is that while he seems to know a little about marketing, 90% of his posts are either personal insults, threats or very intricate conspiracy theories with no basis. Even if he managed to contribute quite a bit to the coins PR side, he would scare away most serious investors. It's not really feasible to have someone who's had several public meltdowns, and threatened to reveal his customers personal information to get back on one guy, directly involved with a project of this size. If he really wants to see a return on his investmen I suggest that he stop the massive hatefilled campains against everyone who disagress with him, and either keep quiet for a month to see what happens or indeed just work on the PR side without attacking someone every 30 seconds.

He's not going to take over the coin. The developer, 99% of the community and the core team are not on his side. I hope he realizes this as soon as possible and either moves to a project of his own, or just does what he does best and work on PR without the massive FUD.