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[ANN] [NEW COIN] [NEW ALGO] + PoW
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Bubba06255003
on 21/05/2020, 22:10:31 UTC

Cropp-coin is a blockchain protection project with the ability to send signed transactions.
 The project has
fast transactions, low commission for transfers.
Project capitalization of 300 millions $!
Cropp-coin uses a new algorithm.
Which will allow you to mine coins 2 times faster in our miner!


Wallet - Download

Specifications:

- 10 seconds block time
- Difficulty retargets every 60 blocks, with accelerated diff retarget at the beginning to prevent instamining
- PoW + New algo
- Total coins will be around 340 millions
- 3 confirmations for transaction, thus a zap fast 1 minute transaction confirmation
- 30 confirmations for minted blocks
- support transaction message
- 50 coins per block, and with following super random blocks

Website:
http://cropp-coin.wordpress.com/ (in developing)


Sample Cropp-coin.conf:

listen=1
daemon=1
server=1
rpcuser=Yourusername
rpcpassword=Yourpassword
rpcport=13809
rpcconnect=127.0.0.1
addnode=58.172.40.93
addnode=123.16.88.137
addnode=24.209.133.75
addnode=46.150.89.173
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Re: 🏔🗻 Blue Hill Mining - STO backed by one of the largest copper reserves in Asia
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Bubba06255003
on 03/09/2019, 09:34:25 UTC
A Reply for Bubba06255003


“These are not ALL the projects that Royal Haskoning has ever been involved in. These are the ones they like to advertise on their website.
Where is the Nicaragua Canal project which they were involved in, or the One Angel Square project in Manchester which they designed or the Seine-Nord canal project which they overlooked? Where are these listed on the list of projects they are involved in or have been involved in”.




Thats correct, they are not listed as I had filters applied. Im not here to teach you how to research online Bubba06255003. You are obviously not capable of such things or even understanding what INDEPENDENT means.

Here’s a hint, if you want to know about different projects you may consider the Royal Haskoning website that is country specific.




“So you say it's easy to get a confidential report from Royal Haskoning. In that case please get a link to a feasibility or analytical study Royal Haskoning have done for any of the projects they have listed on their website. Thanks”.



Find your own. Im getting a little tired of you wanting links when you can’t actually provide one yourself to back up anything you have said. I’m not providing my box login, and you have no idea what i’m talking about then I rest my case, your research skills suck.




“You seem to have got things mixed up. The Toronto stock exchange listing will happen AFTER the buy back plan in late 2022.
The FINMA license is for the security token. 2 different things. So first the FINMA license for the security token. Once all the tokens have been bought back THEN they will apply for listing on the Toronto Stock exchange. Comprende”?



What the hell are you talking about, there will be no buyback.  Both the BHF token and BHM token are securities - the Blue Hill white-paper says that. It’s a bit late now because the pre STO is a security token and not registered. You also cannot sell tokens on a share-exchange (shares = 100% equity not partial like the BHM white-paper says - 0.00000004%), only morons would believe you can sell this.  




“Lastly being a shareholder of Bayajtatu means you own the % of all their assets. Not really hard to understand. So if you own 30% of their shares, you own 30% of their land, mine, property etc, just like any shareholder for any company. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This link clearly shows Bayajtatu has a foreign shareholder”




Did you read the above post by WIDGAR? This is the second time I repeating myself. WIDGAR claims to have invested $ 9,000 EUROS and has all the documentation that Blue Hill Mining has given him. There are also links provided, more than you have ever done Bubba06255003.

This documentation apparently shows that part of the land was purchased from BAYAJTATU last year and Blue Hill Mining does not own Bayajtatu LLC. So WIDGAR is basically calling YOU a liar Bubba06255003, not me. You are the one banging on about how Blue Hill Mining own shares in BAYAJTATU but thats not actually the case at all according to WIDGAR and Blue Hills documentation.

So you lie. WIDGAR said so, so does Blue Hill documentation.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329 <——You keep using the link I provided lol now it is irrelevant because you are a liar according to Blue Hills Documentation and WIDGAR.


I do have basic computer skills and know how to use a filter. In fact by using the filters I managed to find these 3 projects are NOT listed on the Royal Haskoning projects lists. Your link https://www.royalhaskoningdhv.com/en-gb/projects/view-our-projects-on-a-map apparently shows 'all' Royal Haskonings projects. Well try taking off all filters or do a continent specific search and you will not find the following 3 projects on there. The nicaragua canal project, the One Angel Square Project in Manchester or the Seine-Nord canal project. Did Royal Haskoning not partake in these projects???



" Find your own. Im getting a little tired of you wanting links when you can’t actually provide one yourself to back up anything you have said. I’m not providing my box login, and you have no idea what i’m talking about then I rest my case, your research skills suck. "

It's easy to say this if you know you haven't got any substance to back it up. You claim anyone can hold of a CONFIDENTIAL report from one of the biggest auditors in the world by simply registering an account and accessing their database???!!! Really???!! I know you think Blue Hill Mining is a scam but come on you can do better than that. Surely.



" What the hell are you talking about, there will be no buyback.  Both the BHF token and BHM token are securities - the Blue Hill white-paper says that. It’s a bit late now because the pre STO is a security token and not registered. You also cannot sell tokens on a share-exchange (shares = 100% equity not partial like the BHM white-paper says - 0.00000004%), only morons would believe you can sell this.  "

There will be no buyback according to YOU. Who are YOU??!!. BHF is NOT a security token but BHM is. BHF will be converted to the regulated BHM token once FINMA gives their approval. The BHM token will then be listed on a Crypto-exchange not the toronto stock exchange by Q2 2020. The company will then buyback the tokens from Q2 2022 onwards. Once all the tokens have been bought back they will then apply to be listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange.
You seen to want to jump from one part of the process to the other. You claim security tokens can't be sold on an exchange. Well then what the heck is being sold on tZero right now?



http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329 <---------- you didnt provide this link. It was me that got this for you from the BHF website once you create an account. Please show me one place where YOU put this link up.
You STILL do  not seem to understand the concept of shareholders and what it entitles you to. If I am a 30% shareholder of a company I OWN 30% of their assets. This is BASIC knowledge.
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Re: 🏔🗻 Blue Hill Mining - STO backed by one of the largest copper reserves in Asia
by
Bubba06255003
on 02/09/2019, 14:23:57 UTC
This WIDGAR guy really sealed the deal about this project being a scam. It went from a 95% chance to a 99% chance of being a scam thanks to him reminding me about the involvement of this Adrian Jacuzzi guy, then saying his token price was worth more now than it was when he bought it. Its worth zero. He doesn't even hold the tokens. This can be verified by checking out the smart contract address for the tokens. They haven't been distributed and they aren't traded. There's no realistic chance this project isn't a scam. Whether or not a mine exists is irrelevant -- the cryptocurrency portion of their fundraising is a scam.

It's clearly stated the tokens will go onto an exchange in Q2 2020. So whether we have the tokens now or not is irrelevant. In fact they can only be distributed once FINMA give their approval, that being in Q4 2019.

It's quite an elaborate scam dont you think? Involving a multitude of companies and reports. Royal Haskoning, SWISSCOM,  Golders associates. Maybe Adrian payed them all off!
Or more realistically, there is a mine which we have established from Mongolian government websites and the owners of the mine have foreign shareholders
http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

A confidential feasibility study carried out by Royal Haskoning is available on the BHF website which can be seen after agreeing to an NDA. (apparently these studies are easily available to download from the web Cheesy).

But let's just wait till the end of the year for FINMA approval.
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Re: 🏔🗻 Blue Hill Mining - STO backed by one of the largest copper reserves in Asia
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Bubba06255003
on 02/09/2019, 13:26:27 UTC
These are not ALL the projects that Royal Haskoning has ever been involved in. These are the ones they like to advertise on their website.
Where is the Nicaragua Canal project which they were involved in, or the One Angel Square project in Manchester which they designed or the Seine-Nord canal project which they overlooked? Where are these listed on the list of projects they are involved in or have been involved in.

Blue hill mining is not a partner with Royal Haskining, they are just advisors to Blue hill mining so would not be listed as their partners.

So you say it's easy to get a confidential report from Royal Haskoning. In that case please get a link to a feasibility or analytical study Royal Haskoning have done for any of the projects they have listed on their website. Thanks.

You seem to have got things mixed up. The Toronto stock exchange listing will happen AFTER the buy back plan in late 2022.
The FINMA license is for the security token. 2 different things. So first the FINMA license for the security token. Once all the tokens have been bought back THEN they will apply for listing on the Toronto Stock exchange. Comprende?

Lastly being a shareholder of Bayajtatu means you own the % of all their assets. Not really hard to understand. So if you own 30% of their shares, you own 30% of their land, mine, property etc, just like any shareholder for any company. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This link clearly shows Bayajtatu has a foreign shareholder. Interesting.....
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Re: 🏔🗻 Blue Hill Mining - STO backed by one of the largest copper reserves in Asia
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Bubba06255003
on 01/09/2019, 19:13:25 UTC
http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This is an official Mongolian website that clearly shows Bayajtatu has a foreign shareholder.

In fact if you were just to register an account at bluehillfoundation.com you would be able to see all state registration documents.

Not only that, but also the appraisal report done by Royal Haskoning on behalf of Bayajtatu. How on earth did BHF manage to get their hands on that I wonder.

But the pre sale is done and dusted. Let's wait till the end of year for the registration with FINMA.
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
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Bubba06255003
on 25/06/2019, 08:37:57 UTC

Bayajtatu is a Registered Company


Registration number: 5167329          Registration number: 5167329
Company Name: Bayajtatu            Company Name: Bayajtatu
Licence Number: XV-014308         Licence Number: XV-014307
Area Name: Khul sharga            Area Name: Bor khoshuu
Area Size (Ha): 14,070.46            Area Size (Ha): 901.49
Date Issued: 2008.10.17            Date Issued: 2008.10.17
Expiration Date: 2017.10.17         Expiration Date: 2017.10.17
Province: Bayankhongor            Province: Bayankhongor
District/Subdivision: Bayanlig         District/Subdivision: Bayanlig
Status: Limited Liability Company      Status: Limited Liability Company

https://eiti.org/sites/default/files/documents/2016_m_eiti_report_appendices_en_final.pdf


What we find when we cross reference the known licences (XV-014308 and XV-014307) with company registration in Mongolia is the company name translated into “Бaяттaтy” as expected, since the mines are located in Mongolia.

https://mrpam.gov.mn/news/1587/
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=mn&u=https://mrpam.gov.mn/news/1587/&prev=search (licence cross-reference)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=mn&u=http://www.mininginvestment.mn/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D814:haiguul%26catid%3D53:2011-06-11-06-16-18%26Itemid%3D38&prev=search (Бaяттaтy and licence cross-reference as supporting evidence they are the same company)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=mn&u=https://tanevsel.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/dundgobi-aimag.xlsx&prev=search
Xaвcpaлт - Moнгoлын Oлбopлox Yйлдвэpлэлийн Ил Toд Бaйдлын ...www.eitimongolia.mn/sites/default/files/uploads/final.../Appendices_2016_MN.xlsx (Бaяттaтy)



Bayajtatu is БAЯЖTATУ and NOT BlueHill Mining\Foundation


Further cross-referencing our known licences the legal status of the company is revealed with the ORIGINAL COMPANY NAME written in its native language and location.  


XV-00014307   Бop xoшyy  Company Number: 5167329 БAЯЖTATУ 2008-10-17 2020-10-17 Бaянxoнгop
XV-00014308   Xyл шapгa  Company Number: 5167329 БAЯЖTATУ 2008-10-17 2020-10-17 Бaянxoнгop

Also note the date for licence expiry 2020-10-17 (check links for renewal)

http://register.minjust.gov.kg/register/SearchAction.seam?logic=and&cid=204
https://e-reporting.eitimongolia.mn Up-to-date Mining Licences showing (2019) БAЯЖTATУ with current licence XV-00014307 and XV-014308).
https://mrpam.gov.mn/news/1587/


ALL of the links you have put up just show one thing: That Bayajtatu is the holder of the licences for the mine: Nobody is disputing this. From a Google search you can't see the number of shareholders, company structure etc of Bayajtatu.

You clearly have stated that Bayajtatu has no foreign investors in it, well here you are WRONG

Crypto-Info:"BlueHill does NOT own Bayajtatu or part of, nor has bought any part of the Mine(s) or licences from Bayajtatu LLC


As proven above Bayajtatu is NOT owned by BlueHill or has any relationship with Bayajtatu. Bayajtatu holds the current licences XV-014308 and XV-014307 that will expire in Sep 2020 and will be renewed by them
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This link from the official Mongolian company registration website, clearly shows Bayajtatu has 4 shareholders ONE of which is a foreign investor.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329.

Moreover you can actually see the official state registartion documents on the BHF dashboard that shows the parent company of BHF owns 24% of Bayajtatu LLC. Shocked

Like I said earlier, you would need more than just a Google search to get to the bottom of this...
Also as mentioned earlier READ THE WHITEPAPER to see the company structure pre and post STO on the BHF website.

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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
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Bubba06255003
on 23/06/2019, 10:48:45 UTC
Not once did I claim Blue Hill owns part of the licence!!! Why are you writing rubbish?

And when did I say Bayajtatu means Blue hill mining in Mongolian???

I said to prospective western investors Blue Hill Mining sounds a lot better than a Mongolian name.

You really are showing your lack of knowledge of company shareholding.

Rio Tinto owns or is a significant shareholder in Oyu Tolgoi mine in Mongolia. Where is Rio Tinto officially based? Let me tell you in the UK and Australia.

According to you this is not possible because it's not a Mongolian company!! Maybe the mine is actually based in the UK and Australia!!!
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 23/06/2019, 10:38:13 UTC
Good things come to those who wait.

As I've always been saying from the off, this is a legitimate operation and a worthwhile investment that many small investors like ourselves would not have been
able to invest in.

You ask for all the documentation that depicts the role BHF has in Bayajtatu, in the mining operation as based on your limited research that hasn't really scratched the surface, you cannot see any link. Well no need to worry. Just register an account on www.bluehillfoundation.com and go to the documentation tab.
It will show you all the licences, appraisal reports, market research done by RoyalHaskoning.

In fact it even shows how the parent company of BHF is actually a shareholder in Bayajtatu!!. All OFFICIAL documents NOT a Google search. Haha.

Maybe this is something you can look into investing in now? Now you know it is not a scam.

Good things come to those who wait.

As I've always been saying from the off, this is a legitimate operation and a worthwhile investment that many small investors like ourselves would not have been
able to invest in.

You ask for all the documentation that depicts the role BHF has in Bayajtatu, in the mining operation as based on your limited research that hasn't really scratched the surface, you cannot see any link. Well no need to worry. Just register an account on www.bluehillfoundation.com and go to the documentation tab.
It will show you all the licences, appraisal reports, market research done by RoyalHaskoning.

In fact it even shows how the parent company of BHF is actually a shareholder in Bayajtatu!!. All OFFICIAL documents NOT a Google search. Haha.

Maybe this is something you can look into investing in now? Now you know it is not a scam.


Bubba06255003: "In fact it even shows how the parent company of BHF is actually a shareholder in Bayajtatu!!. All OFFICIAL documents NOT a Google search. Haha"....

Bubba06255003 "In fact it even shows how the parent company of BHF is actually a shareholder in Bayajtatu!!....your limited research that hasn't really scratched the surface, you cannot see any link.."

Why do you state there are no links when I offer evidence, and you offer nothing but the Blue Hill website as proof. It is NOT independent evidence like I have shown.  No wonder why you are confused.

NOPE! BHF IS NOT a shareholder in Bayajtatu. Already proven that with the links. All business ownerships are present on the database as required by law. It is black and white. You really need to show independent evidence, stop quoting the Blue Hill white paper and website. I didn't compile the database so don't dispute that facts with me.



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Bubba06255003: "All OFFICIAL documents NOT a Google search. Haha"...

SCAM talk. There no real independent links found anywhere. Everything points to Blue Hill is a SCAM. The company\Mine ownership is found on a independent database including all business relationships.

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You keep changing your story.


One second you claim Blue Hill can own the "part licence" of the mine(s) because it bought some of the mine off Bayajtatu. LOL. The evidence proves that wrong.

then..."Blue Hill is easy to say Bayajtatu" - Wrong, it means "Finish" in Kyrgyz.

Then you say "Bluehill Foundation has bought 24% of the mine from Bayajtatu", the evidence proves that wrong.

Then you claim "...the parent company of BHF is actually a shareholder in Bayajtatu", the evidence shows that is also wrong. Bayajtatu a independent company.


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So Blue hill Foundation has bought 24% of the mine from Bayajtatu and will buy another 6%, AND the parent company of Blue Hill Foundation (BHF) according to you is actually a shareholder of Bayajtatu (as well). Wow CONVOLUTED story you cooked up.

Is Blue Hill Mining Corporation AG, Bayajtatu LLC or isn't it? The Blue Hill white paper says it owns 24% of the Blue Hill Mining...Blue Hill Mining Corporation AG is a Swiss Public Limited Company and NOT what you say..24% of the mine from Bayajtatu... Even the white paper doesn't know.

 I have already establish Blue Hill is NOT Bayajtatu so what part of of this scam does Blue Hill Mining Corporation AG play in again? When do they own the mine? The story changes and I'm not keeping up.


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In fact the Blue Hill white paper says the Mining company is called Blue Hill Mining Corporation AG. There are no links with Blue Hill Mining Corporation AG, as I have shown, in fact with no other company. So even the Blue Hill white Paper says you are wrong with the name.


_______________________________________________________________________________ _________

Then you mention  "Bluehill Foundation has bought 24% of the mine from Bayajtatu and will proceed to buy another 6% from Bayajtatu to make 30%"... HOWEVER the Blue Hill Whitepaper says: "The Blue Hill Foundation is a Netherlands based Foundation ( Stichting) that already owns 24% of the Blue Hill Mining...Blue Hill Mining Corporation AG is a Swiss Public Limited Company "...[/i]

Apparently now Blue Hill mining is a Swiss Limited Company, not Mongolian. I'm a bit confused. According to you it was a licence thing, then it was just easier to say "Blue Hill", rather than Bayajtatu, cough cough..."finish" is easier to say. Now you are saying Blue Hill's parent owns part of Bayajtatu when in fact independent evidence says you are WRONG about Bayajtatu...and a mine located where (Netherlands???) that mines in Mongolia...a whole new argument there.


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Apparently, The Blue Hill Foundation isn't a Mongolian Mine but located in the Netherlands (Mine is in different countries!!!???) which would mean it MUST be registered for foreign land ownership (because apparently it owns (part) mines in Mongolia with Bayajtatu). This has been proven otherwise.


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BlueHill does NOT own Bayajtatu or part of, nor has bought any part of the Mine(s) or licences from Bayajtatu LLC


As proven above Bayajtatu is NOT owned by BlueHill or has any relationship with Bayajtatu. Bayajtatu holds the current licences XV-014308 and XV-014307 that will expire in Sep 2020 and will be renewed by them.

This would draw us to the conclusion Blue Hill Mining\Foundation does not have the licences XV-014308 and XV-014307 as they claim (and not available in the future). This would suggest Blue Hill Mining\Foundation IS A SCAM. We have also established that BlueHill has NO relationship with the company Bayajtatu, Bayajtatu owns 100% of the licences and 100% of its two mines.

This is a typical scam where they use real data so when researched it’s valid until under context. The flying-dutch-man scam (Bonanza token by Rouge Mountain Mining Group) was very similar scam that also mentioned names of mining companies and mines that were real and even issuing a genuine geology report. It all turned out to be a scam.


Note:

My intention isn't to change your mind, Bubba06255003. It's to provide info for others not to invest in this SCAM. I don't care if you can't follow links or see what I would hope you could see...that this is a scam. My intent is to turn others away from this and to evoke a response to BUMP my thread to increase awareness.  

Man you dont half chat a load of rubbish. The evidence is in front of you from official Mongolian websites with the official Mongolian certificate confirming at the moment the parent company of BHF owns 24% of Bayajtatu which in turn means they own 24% of Blue Hill mine

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This is the official website that shows the shareholders of Bayajtatu!! What more do you want. Rebus Coporation BV is the parent company of BHF.

All of this information is in the whitepaper,  yet it's obvious you haven't even bothered to read this, that's why the company structure pre and post STO is completely new to you. You never mentioned any of this before

If you click on state registration you will see the official signed and stamped document that clearly shows the % of Bayajtatu that the parent company of BHF owns.

Is there anything else you would need?
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
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Bubba06255003
on 22/06/2019, 10:23:27 UTC
Good things come to those who wait.

As I've always been saying from the off, this is a legitimate operation and a worthwhile investment that many small investors like ourselves would not have been
able to invest in.

You ask for all the documentation that depicts the role BHF has in Bayajtatu, in the mining operation as based on your limited research that hasn't really scratched the surface, you cannot see any link. Well no need to worry. Just register an account on www.bluehillfoundation.com and go to the documentation tab.
It will show you all the licences, appraisal reports, market research done by RoyalHaskoning.

In fact it even shows how the parent company of BHF is actually a shareholder in Bayajtatu!!. All OFFICIAL documents NOT a Google search. Haha.

Maybe this is something you can look into investing in now? Now you know it is not a scam.
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 20/06/2019, 23:07:35 UTC
There is no doubt that Bayajtatu holds the licence of the 2 mines. If you read my previous posts you will see that that is not in question. There is no disputing this. What was mentioned was Bluehill Foundation has bought 24% of the mine from Bayajtatu and will proceed to buy another 6% from Bayajtatu to make 30%.

Bayajtatu holds the licence to the mine and have sold off 30% of the mine to Bluehill foundation. So nowhere will you see Bluehill Foundation on any website as Bayajtatu are the licence holders. But do not fret. Soon BHF will put a webpage together showing the licences, registrations etc.

Bayajtatu holds the licence to the mine and have sold off 30% of the mine to Bluehill foundation....

No they don't. Already proven BlueHill does not own Bayajtatu. Check links for proof

How about you supply evidence instead of huffing and puffing.

When did I say Bluehill Foundation owns Bayajtatu?? Bayajtatu is a completely different company to BlueHill Foundatio. Bayajtatu owns the mine and has sold 30% of the mine to Bluehill Foundation.  Get it?

Like I said, BHF will provide the info regarding licences, agreements in due time.
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 20/06/2019, 19:24:52 UTC
QUOTE Bubba06255003 "Because the tokens will be bought back in 2022 not In 2019 and security tokens have to be registered in order for them to be security tokens".




No, security tokens are deemed a security applied by the Howey test as used by the FINMA, SEC and Toronto Financial regulatory body (since thats where stock apparently will be sold). This is on their website. What is also found there is the fact if your intent is to swap a token for a security then that token is deemed as a security regardless of timeframe.

You must therefore register the token since it's also deemed a security before selling it. Thus it is illegal for BlueHill to sell the token as they have not registered yet.  

I keep telling to read the terms and conditions but you obviously dont feel the need to!

If you did read the terms and conditions, it's clearly stated the BHF token is an unregulated token. Only once FINMA approve the BHM tokens will the BHF token be converted to the regulated BHM token.

At present there is NO such thing as a BHM token. It only becomes an entity once approved by FINMA.

The terms clearly state BHF tokens at present hold no rights to the BHM mine. To this point if FINMA do not approve the regulated BHM token, a refund will be given to all BHF token holders as stated in the terms and conditions.

You need to read the small print in the terms and conditions, which will explain it all and not use a generic ruling from Google.

The Howey test will only give a positive outcome to the REGULATED BHM token as there is a security linked to it, the mine. At this moment in time BHF tokens are NOT linked to a mine. Only once FINMA approve the BHM token will they be converted to BHM tokens.
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
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Bubba06255003
on 20/06/2019, 17:49:46 UTC
There is no doubt that Bayajtatu holds the licence of the 2 mines. If you read my previous posts you will see that that is not in question. There is no disputing this. What was mentioned was Bluehill Foundation has bought 24% of the mine from Bayajtatu and will proceed to buy another 6% from Bayajtatu to make 30%.

Bayajtatu holds the licence to the mine and have sold off 30% of the mine to Bluehill foundation. So nowhere will you see Bluehill Foundation on any website as Bayajtatu are the licence holders. But do not fret. Soon BHF will put a webpage together showing the licences, registrations etc.
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 16/06/2019, 21:50:39 UTC
Once the STO is approved by FINMA you will see all the links between Bayajtatu and BHF. Until then you can all you want but you wont get anything or see anything online as it is sensitive information and officially they dont have to show any link at this moment in time UNLESS you purchase the €4997 package. In which case you will have to sign an NDA and all the info will be sent out to you.

But I doubt you will do that.
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 16/06/2019, 21:47:08 UTC
now we see good results from the team. I think sto is a really good solution for investors in this market.
what about exchanges? with whom are negotiations already under way ? I just would like to understand when there will be a listing on cryptocurrency exchanges?
The listing for the 70% of Blue Hill Mine on the Toronto stock market will happen by end of this year. Until now, we cannot give details on this until it is done. The listing for the remaining 30% of Blue Hill Mine will be make via the buyback plan for the BHM tokens. This will happen from 2022 onwards (date to be confirmed).

Could you clear up the Toronto Stock Market Listing please. I only see "The intention is for BHM to be Fully Licensed under the Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority FINMA and thereon after intended to be licensed under the U.S. security and exchange commission regulators SEC." on your website.

And on that note why do you need to register with the FINMA and SEC if you are going to dump 70% on to the Toronto Stock Market?

Makes no sense...

Because the tokens will be bought back in 2022 not In 2019 and security tokens have to be registered in order for them to be security tokens.
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Board Scam Accusations
Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 16/06/2019, 21:42:39 UTC
Sorry for delay...went away on holiday

I'm still very excited that you (Bubba06255003) were in contact with SWISSCOM to confirm this.  
QUOTE from you: "In fact I have contacted SWISSCOM and they confirm that they have worked with BHM on this project".

I look forward to you sharing this independent information with the community to back-up your claim.

3rd party contact details for Dr Kurt Becker (not supplied by BlueHill Foundation):


Dr Kurt Becker

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurt-becker-6a60731a/
https://www.immoraising.de/team&prev=search would reveal the real Dr Kurt Becker's contact details:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.immoraising.de/team&prev=search

Contact:
E-Mail: kb@immoraising.de
Tel .: 02 306/91 04 51 3

In terms of an association with SWISSCOM blockchain, you can go to their official website and on the top right hand corner you will see a telegram link. Join that group.

Either ask them yourself or scroll up to 8th May 2019 when someone else has already asked that question and Sven Moller will confirm the association. Before you ask who is Sven Moller, you can see his profile on their official website and he is an admin of the official telegram group.

https://blockchain.swisscom.com/

Admittedly there is no official confirmation of the link between Bayajtatu and BHF online. However, I have spoken to a senior member of GWE who confirms BHF has bought 24% of the mine from from Bayajtatu and will purchase a further 6% by the end of year.

As the BHM token has not been released and will not be released until FINMA approval, there is no need for official confirmation. It is sensitive information at this time and once FINMA approve the token all information will be released.

BHM is the mine. BHF owns currently 24% of the mine and eventually 30%. BHP is the platform in which multinational companies, mine companies,  banks and smelters will use in regards to the purchasing of materials from the mine.

In terms of all the other points made, I am not an expert on BHM/BHF/BHP, but give an easy to understand explanation of each.

As stated on the website, BHM/BHF token owners will own 30% of the mine, and 30% of the BHP. What is so hard in understanding this. The mine and the platform are 2 separate entities.

So let's give a little recap. The mine is called Blue Hill Mine(BHM). Blue Hill Foundation (BHF) owns 24% of BHM and eventually it will be 30% once the remaining 6% is bought from Bayajtatu. Blue Hill Platform (BHP) is the platform where the materials mined will be exchanged with companies banks etc.

We are going around in circles. Let's wait till Q4 2019 and see if the STO gets approved by FINMA.
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Board Scam Accusations
Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 11/06/2019, 16:05:19 UTC

So you FINALLY accept Kurt Becker is a part of BHM
That there is a "Kurt Becker" claimed to be part of this scheme has not been an issue as far as I'm aware. As has been pointed out, his supposed CV and reality are inconsistent. As far as your "proof" goes, all I see is a Fiverr standard video containing a Central Casting "serious German business man in suit".

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the mine is registered (I had to find that info for you).
"Mine"....
There is no "mine".
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NOUN
1
An excavation in the earth for extracting coal or other minerals.

Show the "mine".
Show data regarding how much "extracting" is going on now.
There are two Exploration Licenses in existence (XV-014307/XV-014308) which share some parts of the reference numbers (14307/14308X) quoted.
Exploration Licenses are not "mines".

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Now the only thing you have going is GWE being a scam. Even though its running for 2 years and still paying its investors everyday for the past 2 years.
Aren't you getting your Jacuzzi companies mixed up? Or do you really mean that Global World Exchangers are an active investment company?
"running for two years".....with a website
Quote from: Whois
Created on 2018-02-18
and what an informative website it is
https://i.imgur.com/eJVk7kp.png

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Like I said in an earlier post, wait for the Blue hill sale to finish then you will see the rest of the 'big companies' GWE is associated with in the next STO. Like I said wait a couple of months.
Oh yeah, wait... Great Things Coming Soon. So, just to be clear, as of this point in time your statement that
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GWE are the blockchain experts who help create security tokens for these big companies
has no basis in fact.
 
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Bayajtatu?
Its the same as Oyu Tolgui. This is the registered Mongolian company for Turquoise Hill Mine. You didnt seem to answer this question. Why is Turquoise Hill mine NOT on the list of registered mining companies in Mongolia? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS BETTER FOR INVESTORS THAN OYU TOLGUI AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER
In the same way, Blue Hill mine sounds a lot better to investors and marketers than Bayajtatu.

This is just words that mean nothing. What question I didn't answer, I have no idea what you're talking about.
The Oyu Tolgui project is the Oyu Tolgui project.
There is no such legal entity as " Turquoise Hill mine".
There is a Rio Tinto company called Turquoise Hill Resources involved in the management of Oyu Tolgui, so what?
Absolutely nothing to do with the complete lack of connection between the Exploratory License holder named Bayajtatu and this "Blue Hill" scheme.
Surprisingly, my Mongolian is poor (non-existent) so I have been unable to work out how you manage to translate "Bayajtatu" into anything resembling "Blue Hill" to sound "a lot better for investors".
If I was being cynical I'd say that "Blue Hill" was deliberately chosen as the name for this scheme to gain some reflected credibility from the real Rio Tinto project.

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You cant accept that BHM is NOT a scam.
I find it difficult to see what advantage there would be for a legitimate project of this type hooking themselves up with a bunch of two-bit MLM scammers.

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You ask I should explain why RoyalHaskoning , Golders associates, SWISSCOM are partners with BHM. Well that's the exact reason they are PARTNERS. YOU explain otherwise if you can.
"PARTNERS"?
According to the whitepaper RoyalHaskoning and Golders associates are advisers, not partners. Not that there is even any confirmation from those two companies of that claim.
Swisscom a PARTNER? Not that they acknowledge anywhere. What is the partnership, what risk and reward do the two entities share?

Haters.... the classic MLM scammer appellation for anyone who points out their bullshit as bullshit.

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Read it and weep.
What, weep with laughter at the idea that paying to attend one of the many many "networking conferences" there are around somehow confers legitimacy?
Altho I'm sure that's what Coach Mustafa will be breathlessly spinning to his downline of sophisticated "investors"...

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Still think it's a scam???
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Each BHF token has the rights to co-ownership of the Blue Hill Mine. BHF tokens are being sold NOT BHM tokens so no securities are being sold.



Man we are just going round and round in circles. You call it a 'scam' I call it an investment opportunity. Lets wait till the end of the year for approval from FINMA.

You ask for evidence of the exploration done. IT IS IN THE WHITEPAPER!!!! WHICH I KEEP TELLING YOU TO READ. PAGE 11. Unless BHM managed to hack into the RoyalHaskoning database and procure this material. Or the standard reply 'how do we know what this is for' or 'where is the link to bhm'

It's also very convenient that the concession numbers of the mines just happen to be very similar to the Exploration Licenses in existence (XV-014307/XV-014308). Which in turn just happens to be, when placed onto a map, in the EXACT co-ordinates of the mines mentioned on the BHM whitepaper. Now that's a heck of a lot detail to go into for a scam.

Just one last thing. My Mongolian isn't very good but I'm sure Oyu Tolgui doesn't translate into Rio Tinto Resources or Turquoise Hill Resources  Roll Eyes

See you at the end of 2019 Grin

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Board Announcements (Altcoins)
Re: 🏔🗻 Blue Hill Mining - STO backed by one of the largest copper reserves in Asia
by
Bubba06255003
on 11/06/2019, 10:27:18 UTC
Great News.

https://www.weare121.com/121techinvestment-hk/client/blue-hill-foundation/

BHF will be present at this big event in Hong Kong.

For all those who claim it is a scam, how is this possible?? Is this a get together for all the scammers??
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Board Scam Accusations
Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 11/06/2019, 09:51:04 UTC
One more post for all you HATERS

https://www.weare121.com/121techinvestment-hk/client/blue-hill-foundation/

They will be present at this big investment meeting in Hong Kong.

Read it and weep. Still think it's a scam???
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Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 10/06/2019, 14:44:34 UTC

This makes me laugh LOL. This is the same CNMV that issued a warning against coinbase, kucoin and xapo. Yes you read write.
https://www.cnmv.es/docportal/aldia/Advertencias_CNMV_Otras_en.pdf

The Spanish regulator issues two types of warning to investors to help them avoid being scammed. For a regulator they seem to be fairly proactive, searching the web for non registered entities that operate in the financial sector and including them at that link. That list contains crypto related and non crypto related schemes, including coinbase and many others, anyone who is offering financial services to Spaniards but not registered to do so.
GWE and Mize are not on that list.
GWE and Mize are specifically warned about separately as not authorised to provide investment services. This category also includes a request from the Regulator for victims to provide evidence anonymously.

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As far as I'm concerned that's says a lot as the authorities ain't got a clue about cryptocurrency.
What *you* are concerned about is not relevant. The GWE/Mize warning has nothing to do with cryptocurrency per se. Mize is actively soliciting fiat investment into its opaque MLM scam schemes, that's why they're warned about.

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You ask about the big companies GWE works with, well dont fret. After the sale of the BHF tokens finishes, the next STO will be released. Then you will have your 'evidence'.
From that answer I gather that *you* are confirming that Jacuzzi's shell company GWE doesn't and hasn't "worked with" any other "big companies at all?
That this claim is a complete fabrication (a.k.a. lie)
GWE are the blockchain experts who help create security tokens for these big companies

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If GWE is a scam why aren't the authorities closing them down
Classic scammers non argument, as used by many many others including Onecoin, (a favorite past scam of some of Mize's highest flying bullshitting thieves marketing experts).

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Funny how you cant see any new faults with BHM, Kurt Beckers 'real' video, RoyalHaskoning DHVs audit, SWISSCOMs association with BHM. Are they all in on this elaborate scam as well??

*You* tell me, you seem to have all the answers. Like tell us who are Bayajtatu? Is that "Kurt Becker" in Mongolian?
Talking of which, exactly who are *you*?
Registered in February last year, woke up a day ago solely to post on this topic.
So, admin or shill? Or maybe a high flying affiliate?
Is that you Coach Mustafa maybe, posting on your new Macbook Pro?

https://i.imgur.com/wumuxIu.jpg


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Each BHF token has the rights to co-ownership of the Blue Hill Mine.
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BHF tokens are being sold NOT BHM tokens so no securities are being sold.

Hahaha.



Lol.

So you FINALLY accept Kurt Becker is a part of BHM, the mine is registered (I had to find that info for you).

Now the only thing you have going is GWE being a scam. Even though its running for 2 years and still paying its investors everyday for the past 2 years.

Like I said in an earlier post, wait for the Blue hill sale to finish then you will see the rest of the 'big companies' GWE is associated with in the next STO. Like I said wait a couple of months.

Bayajtatu?

Its the same as Oyu Tolgui. This is the registered Mongolian company for Turquoise Hill Mine. You didnt seem to answer this question. Why is Turquoise Hill mine NOT on the list of registered mining companies in Mongolia? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS BETTER FOR INVESTORS THAN OYU TOLGUI AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER

In the same way, Blue Hill mine sounds a lot better to investors and marketers than Bayajtatu.

You cant accept that BHM is NOT a scam.

You ask I should explain why RoyalHaskoning , Golders associates, SWISSCOM are partners with BHM. Well that's the exact reason they are PARTNERS. YOU explain otherwise if you can.
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Board Scam Accusations
Re: Blue Hill Foundation\Mining- Blue Hill Mine - STO - SCAM WARNING
by
Bubba06255003
on 10/06/2019, 13:31:58 UTC


concession numbers 14307X & 14308X Huh/ What the hell is this. Show me on a database where this is found!

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You claim you already 'searched' these, yet this post clearly shows you dont even know what concession numbers are. All you did was search blue hill mining. That's it.

I showed you what concession numbers are and only now you claim you know what they are AFTER I searched for them.

So we got the licence for the mines, 3 videos with Kurt Becker explaining Blue Hill Mining. The report from RoyalHaskoning, SWISSCOM , Golders associates, and STILL you blindly claim scam. LOOLLLLLLLL