Hey guys,  good to still see familiar faces.  I wanted to check in and see how everything is. Been a long while.

look soccer balls are flat too, here is a picture of it for proof!!

Bitch i have provided NUMEROUS bits of evidence.

a good one is if you are near the ocean (so to minimize any structures in the way) wait for sunrise or sunset (whichever causes the sun to go past the ocean horizon) if sunset then when its getting close laydown, as soon as you cant see the sun anymore jump up on your feet (vise versa for sunrise but start standing then lay down). both times you will be able to see the sun again when you couldnt before. this is not possible if the earth is flat. in fact sunrise and sunset is impossible on a flat earth. thus meaning the world MUST be round.

you make jokes at my expense but you have YET to disprove a SINGLE ONE of the logical arguments i have made. instead you post links because you lack any original thought and dont even understand your own retarded belief. the funny thing is that i have without fail disproved every one of your retarded explanations about why the earth is flat.  soo good luck with your life being so fucken retarded you believe in flat earth.

yea it is, but its kinda fun knowing that there are soo many vastly more retarded then you. its like self help therepy

there is no evidense in that video just bullshit pseudo-science that you dont even understand. that is why you post links to shit after you google your opinion. you dont know the science to back it up because you a moronic cum dumpster.
i dont have enough time watching this buillshit

1. there is a visible curvature if you have ever been in a fucking plane. 2. while true the earth is rotating quickly, we are spinning at the same speed with it, similar to if you are on a plane you dont feel like you are moving at break neck speeds because it was gradual and you are moving with it. like gravity you dont feel it but it exists dragging you down. and due to the sheer size of earth, even if we are spinning at 1k MPH it would barely be noticeable on the surface.


and finally all object fall with gravity at the same rate (you can test this by dropping a feather or a bowling ball in a vacuum. they land at the same time. therefore the railgun has to adjust for gravity and the curvature of earth with every shot (depending on distance). it also has to account for the Coriolis affect due to earth rotation.

now you are saying nuclear weapons dont exist? wtf? are you seriously just disregarding every scientific advancement in the past two and a half Millennium. you far from saving. you are sooo fucking retarded. that or you are just a troll, in which case you are an asshat. but if you seriously believe this then i pray you dont reproduce. we dont need more of you. i hope you earn the Darwin award. its the only award you deserve.

actually we do but thats besides the point


@Nomad then please explain The Fractional Orbital Bombardment System (FOBS) which was a Soviet ICBM program in the 1960s that after launch would go into a low Earth orbit and would then de-orbit for an attack. It had no range limit and the orbital flight path would not reveal the target location. This would allow a path to North America over the South Pole, hitting targets from the south, which is the opposite direction from which NORAD early warning systems are oriented.

The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 banned nuclear weapons in Earth orbit. It did not ban the launch systems, so the Soviet Union proceeded to test their FOBS albeit without placing nuclear warheads in orbit.

The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 was formed between the USA, Soviet Union, and the UK. why would any government spend money making a treaty compromising their own rights, to limit the rights of other countries using weapons of mass destruction in space which they "supposedly" know is nonexistent.

you just make shit up constantly. and how can you honestly think gravity is a hoax? are you high or something? or are you just more retarded then a 2nd grader?


PS; why would the collective world governments spend SOOOO much on space exploration and colonization if it didn't exist? in 2004 alone the top eight countries collectively spent 39.2 TRILLION DOLLARS on space. if it was a hoax then that means they burned 39.2 TRILLION on nothing to prolong a world wide conspiracy.

i am sorry that you missed out, but if you invest in experimental stock and dont keep and eye on it for news or possible changes, then cryptocoderz cannot be responsible for your coins. they gave over 5 months to trade out, if you logged on to nova or this thread at any point in those 5 months then you would've known to make the trade.

personally i had no issues with the upgrade. and i have explained multiple times how you could fix the issues you are expirencing. if your client is still not working please feel free to message me and i will personally make sure you are up and running so you can feel secure with your ESP.

simple, Gravity causes all things on earth to be pulled down. gravity is a fact. its easy to replicate. with gravity then all things will be pulled equally down, explaining river, why we arent projectiled into space, etc. and it makes a hell of a lot more sense then a flat disk being propelled at over +1000MPH without any form of propulsion using unlimited energy which cannot exist.

the images got better ebcause we have advanced imaging technology from when it had to be black and white, shit remember when a poloroid was the best camera we had? then we got HD camera then 4k cameras, now we have fucken 8k images, virtual reality, 3d mapping, infrared technology. i mean are you seriously saying that since 1946 images are worse then current day then the earth must be flat? fucken moron.

Really? cause i just disproved your every argument without breaking a sweat. yet nobody here can explain the arguments i have provided using the flat earth model. when you are presented with irrefutable evidence you write it off by being propaganda when in fact it is scientifically accurate and you just havent the brain to comprehend anything.

what?!? you think we live in the Truman show or something? if the world was in a dome then why can we send a balloon with a go-pro live recording into the upper stratosphere? what does the government get out of this multi trillion dollar conspiracy? and why are all governments participating? and all scientists? any anyone with more education then middle school special ed? why cant you explain why the constellations are different in different parts of the world? or why circling the earth at the equator is thousands of miles longer then any other part? or why the sun rises from the eastern horizon and sets over the western horizon. or why days last about 5 minutes longer at the top of the Burj Khalifa tower then at the base. all of these are facts that can easily be proven yet you disregard them because you lack any form of common sense.


EDIT: just noticed you actually said satellites are fake xD how the fuck do you think you have a phone signal? or get your internet to watch midget porn? sure you might be connected through a line but i live in the mountains we only have satellite internet. you cannot possibly believe that satellites dont exist. that is as retarded as claiming all pandas are actually nazi robots built to spy on everyone.

that video search you provided was FULL of pseudo science that makes NO GOD DAMNED SENSE. they are making shit up as they go to explain what is already known as fact! if you actually believe that bullshit that you are more indoctrinated then Scientologists. and because you couldn't disprove anything i said you disregarded it as trash and denied that i could possibly be correct. i feel bad for you and your puny brain. must be hard not being able to see cause your head is shoved too far up your ass.

to all of the Flat Earthers. please PLEASE!!! attempt to disprove the following arguments that you can do to prove the earth is not flat.

1. The Moon
Now that humanity knows quite positively that the Moon is not a piece of cheese or a playful god, the phenomena that accompany it (from its monthly cycles to lunar eclipses) are well-explained. It was quite a mystery to the ancient Greeks, though, and in their quest for knowledge, they came up with a few insightful observations that helped humanity figure out the shape of our planet. Aristotle (who made quite a lot of observations about the spherical nature of the Earth) noticed that during lunar eclipses (when the Earth’s orbit places it directly between the Sun and the Moon, creating a shadow in the process), the shadow on the Moon’s surface is round. This shadow is the Earth’s, and it’s a great clue on the spherical shape of the Earth. Since the earth is rotating (see the “Foucault Pendulum” experiment for a definite proof, if you are doubtful), the consistent oval-shadow it produces in each and every lunar eclipse proves that the earth is not only round but spherical – absolutely, utterly, beyond a shadow of a doubt not flat.

2. Ships and the Horizon
If you’ve been next to a port lately, or just strolled down a beach and stared off vacantly into the horizon, you might have, perhaps, noticed a very interesting phenomenon: approaching ships do not just “appear” out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather emerge from beneath the sea.
But – you say – ships do not submerge and rise up again as they approach our view (except in “Pirates of the Caribbean”, but we are hereby assuming that was a fictitious movie). The reason ships appear as if they “emerge from the waves” is because the world is not flat: it’s round. Imagine an ant walking along the surface of an orange, into your field of view. If you look at the orange “head on”, you will see the ant’s body slowly rising up from the “horizon”, because of the curvature of the Orange. If you would do that experiment with a long road, the effect would have changed: The ant would have slowly ‘materialized’ into view, depending on how sharp your vision is.

3. Varying Star Constellations
This observation was originally made by Aristotle (384-322 BCE), who declared the Earth was round judging from the different constellations one sees while moving away from the equator.After returning from a trip to Egypt, Aristotle noted that “there are stars seen in Egypt and…Cyprus which are not seen in the northerly regions.” This phenomenon can only be explained if humans were viewing the stars from a round surface. Aristotle continued and claimed that the sphere of the Earth is “of no great size, for otherwise the effect of so slight a change of place would not be quickly apparent.” (De caelo, 298a2-10)
The farther you go from the equator, the farther the ‘known’ constellations go towards the horizon, and are replaced by different stars. This would not have happened if the world was flat.

4. Shadows and Sticks
If you stick a stick in the (sticky) ground, it will produce a shadow. The shadow moves as time passes (which is the principle for ancient Shadow Clocks). If the world had been flat, then two sticks in different locations would produce the same shadow. But they don’t. This is because the earth is round, and not flat. Eratosthenes (276-194 BCE) used this principle to calculate the circumference of the Earth quite accurately. To see this demonstrated, refer to my experiment video about Eratosthenes and the circumference of the Earth.

5. Seeing Farther from Higher
Standing in a flat plateau, you look ahead of you towards the horizon. You strain your eyes, then take out your favorite binoculars and stare through them, as far as your eyes (with the help of the binocular lenses) can see.
Then, you climb up the closest tree – the higher the better, just be careful not to drop those binoculars and break their lenses. You then look again, strain your eyes, stare through the binoculars out to the horizon.
The higher up you are the farther you will see. Usually, we tend to relate this to Earthly obstacles, like the fact we have houses or other trees obstructing our vision on the ground, and climbing upwards we have a clear view, but that’s not the true reason. Even if you would have a completely clear plateau with no obstacles between you and the horizon, you would see much farther from greater height than you would on the ground.
This phenomenon is caused by the curvature of the Earth as well, and would not happen if the Earth was flat.

6. Ride a Plane
If you’ve ever taken a trip out of the country, specifically long-destination trips, you could notice two interesting facts about planes and the Earth:
Planes can travel in a relatively straight line a very long time and not fall off any edges. They can also circle the Earth without stopping.
If you look out the window on a trans-Atlantic flight, you can, most of the times, see the curvature of the earth in the horizon. The best view of the curvature used to be on the Concorde, but that plane’s long gone. I can’t wait seeing the pictures from the new plane by “Virgin Galactic” – the horizon should look absolutely curved, as it actually is from a distance.

7. Look at Other Planets
The Earth is different from other planets, that much is true. After all, we have life, and we haven’t found any other planets with life (yet). However, there are certain characteristics all planets have, and it will be quite logical to assume that if all planets behave a certain way, or show certain characteristics – specifically if those planets are in different places or were created under different circumstances – our planet is the same.
In other words: If so many planets that were created in different locations and under different circumstances show the same property, it’s likely that our own planet has the same property as well. All of our observations show planets are spherical (and since we know how they’re created, it’s also obvious why they are taking this shape). Unless we have a very good reason to think otherwise (which we don’t), our planet is very likely the same.
In 1610, Galileo Galilei observed the moons of Jupiter rotating around it. He described them as small planets orbiting a larger planet – a description (and observation) that was very difficult for the church to accept as it challenged a geocentric model where everything was supposed to revolve around the Earth. This observation also showed that the planets (Jupiter, Neptune, and later Venus was observed too) are all spherical, and all orbit the sun.
A flat planet (ours or any other planet) would be such an incredible observation that it would pretty much go against everything we know about how planets form and behave. It would not only change everything we know about planet formation, but also about star formation (as our sun would have to behave quite differently to accustom a “flat earth” theory), what we know of speeds and movements in space (like planets' orbits, and the effects of gravity, etc). In short, we don’t just suspect that our planet is spherical. We know it.

8. The Existence of Timezones
The time in New York, at the moment these words are written, is 12:00pm. The sun is in the middle of the sky (though it’s hard to see with the current cloud coverage). In Beijing, it’s 12:00am, midnight, and the sun is nowhere to be found. In Adelaide, Australia, it is 1:30am. More than 13 hours ahead. There, the sunset is long gone – so much so, that it’s soon going to rise up again in the beginning of a new day.This can only be explained if the world is round, and rotating around its own axis. At a certain point when the sun is shining on one part of the Earth, the opposite side is dark, and vise versa. That allows for time differences and timezones, specifically ones that are larger than 12 hours.
Another point concerning timezones, the sun and flat/spherical Earth: If the sun was a “spotlight” (very directionally located so that light only shines on a specific location) and the world was flat, we would have seen the sun even if it didn’t shine on top of us (as you can see in the drawing below). The same way you can see the light coming out of a spotlight on a stage in the theater, even though you – the crowd – are in the dark. The only way to create two distinctly separate timezones, where there is complete darkness in one while there’s light in the other, is if the world is spherical.

9. The Center of Gravity
There’s an interesting fact about mass: it attracts things to it. The force of attraction (gravity) between two objects depends on their mass and the distance between them. Simply said, gravity will pull toward the center of mass of the objects. To find the center of mass, you have to examine the object.Consider a sphere. Since a sphere has a consistent shape, no matter where on it you stand, you have exactly the same amount of sphere under you. (Imagine an ant walking around on a crystal ball. From the insect's point of view, the only indication of movement would be the fact the ant is moving its feet. The shape of the surface would not change at all.) A sphere's center of mass is in the center of the sphere, which means gravity will pull anything on the surface toward the center of the sphere (straight down) no matter where it's located.
Consider a flat plane. The center of mass of a flat plane is in its center (more or less – if you want to be more accurate, feel free to do the entire integration process), so the force of gravity will pull anything on the surface toward the middle of the plane. That means that if you stand on the edge of the plane, gravity will be pulling you toward the middle, not straight down like you usually experience.I am quite positive that, even for Australians, an apple falls downwards, not sideways. But if you have your doubts, I urge you to try dropping something – just make sure it’s nothing that can break or hurt you.
Further reading about the center of mass and about distribution of mass can be found here. And if you are brave enough to handle some equations (not involving integration), you can learn some more about Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation here.

10. Images from Space
In the past 60 years of space exploration, we’ve launched satellites, probes, and people to space. Some of them got back, some of them still float through the solar system (and almost beyond it) and transmit amazing images over to our receivers on Earth. And in all of the photos, the Earth is (wait for it) spherical. The curvature of the Earth is also visible in the many, many, many, many photos snapped by astronauts on the International Space Station. You can see a recent example from ISS Commander Scott Kelly's Instagram

Tesla's theory on the wireless transmission of power required the Earth to be a globe. When it was illustrated in 1919, the TMT tower was placed at the North Pole to facilitate ease of illustration. The actual tower was built on Staten Island. However, the flat Earth movement of 2015 has commandeered this small bit of information to use as proof Tesla did indeed believe the Earth was flat.


if you want irrefutable evidence the earth is round then i will provide it. if you think you cannot trust science then you dont understand science. it is not a tool to control the masses but a tool to empower the masses to discover their own reality. please by all means attempt to tell me why you are smarter then the worlds top scientists when the only person who believes you is the homeless guy with a tin foil hat.

This is quite possibly the dumbest argument you could've provided. there are numerous scientific studies you could use to disprove flat earth. and you went with faith instead of science to prove science.

Please have patience, the solution i provided will get you to the proper block height however currently blocks have a much higher reject rate then it should be due to the issue that cryptocoderz is working on. the best we can do is get our wallets working and await for the next update.

The only way you can actually believe Flat earth is if you are a conspiracy theorist, thinking every government and scientist alive wants to lie to everyone for no god damn reason at all. (they gain nothing from people thinking the earth is flat or spherical, they lose money trying to hide it however)

if you have never stood by the ocean, or atop a large mountain (or peak),
if you have never flown in an airplane (especially trans Atlantic flights)
if you are unfamiliar with time, and time zones and why they exist
are willing to believe anything
are far to lazy to try one of the numerous experiments that prove the earth is a sphere
and have the IQ of the average potato.

If you are having trouble syncing or your block-height is not correct this is a simple solution.

Step 1. Hit Win+R, Type "%Appdata%"
Step 2. find your ESP folder, go into it, and rename wallet.dat to walletbAK.dat
Step 3. go back in the appdata folder and rename the ESP folder to ESPbak
Step 4. Download latest client (available on the ANN) make sure it is Espers v0.8.5.4-Patch 6
Step 5. run client, allow it to fully sync, add the nodes that you wish to add Etc.
Step 6. after verifying that you are on the correct chain with proper block-height, Close the application go back into the ESPbak Appdata folder and copy the walletbak.dat into the new ESP folder that was created and rename to wallet.dat
Run the application and allow it to fully sync again. (this is a lengthy process but should work)


or you could try the following using the Client Debug Console.

Step 1. Write down your addresses you have in your wallet (at least the ones with balance)
Step 2. Run the "dumpprivkey " for each ESP address and copy the private key for each address
Step 3. Stop the wallet software and go to the appdata folder where you find wallet.dat and rename this file to wallet.old
Step 4. Start the wallet software (a new wallet.dat will be generated)
Step 5. Run the "importprivkey " for each ESP address you exported private keys for in step 2 (it takes some time for each private key)
Step 6. If you find that all balance is restored you are done and can start working with this wallet, if something looks very wrong you can stop wallet and rename back the original wallet.dat

Another lengthy process but this too should work

if you are ignoring him then why quote him? and if you ignore that you are ignore then isnt that a double negative meaning you are actually listening to him?

Sorry for the inconvenience. i had incorrectly assumed that the issue was only the host site. it appears that is not the whole issue. i will look into it, and the lead dev has said that the issue will be resolved by the end of the week. i am terribly sorry for the inconvenience. please feel free to let me now if you have further issues.