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now it's a very hard time for miners.i think dev should decrease 5% fee.now 80% of mined coins should pay for electricity cost.miners only earn 20% ,however dev earns 5% ，that means 25% of miner's earning.
I agree. 2% is more reasonable.
I also agree, 2% is fair.
i agree 2% that's so good, because this time is hard for mining now, miner have to pay for 1-2% of pool and 5% dev.
yea and 80% electricity, what's actually left for the miners after 87% elec, pool fee, dev fee is just 13% what a pity
to the op i just told u what it is all about u sure are free to try , to everybody else i just don't care what u think i'm entitled to my own view also that smart guy saying oh why mine and dump ok then i tell you why buy an asic at all then, just buy the coins and hold if u r gonna play the holding game anyways
also yea i know u have suckered lots of people into buying your out dated asics that's why u never really made a loss, yet u have the audacity to call me a troll u sir qualify as a scammer for doing that to un-suspecting noobs lol ....
note : never heard of something called feedback ? i never really have to own an ASIC to know what it's like to step into these ASIC waters lol but that was a good one actually blah blah blah, like really ?!
also yea i know u have suckered lots of people into buying your out dated asics that's why u never really made a loss, yet u have the audacity to call me a troll u sir qualify as a scammer for doing that to un-suspecting noobs lol ....
note : never heard of something called feedback ? i never really have to own an ASIC to know what it's like to step into these ASIC waters lol but that was a good one actually blah blah blah, like really ?!
yes get into the asics arms race and be ready to make losses and have to sucker somebody into buying your out dated miner just so u can roi and buy the next big new miner to end up doing the same in 3 months frame rinse and repeat, anybody denying that is just some asic manufacturer troll, some people come here and be like haters na na na bla bla anybody has the audacity to defend this whole ASIC monopoly crap is just plain stupid or paid to do so, peace 
Sounds like you got burned. Sound like an Obama mouthpiece with all that hatin.
never bought an ASIC never will i'm not stupid
also this obama nonsense i don't care about it because i'm not american and i can not relate to that crap watsoever ,i'm just being objective that is no "hatin" that is the plan truth this whole asic monopoly crap only benefits the ones who are manufacturing them and dumping them on you once they are about to become useless door stoppers because of the difficulty and remember the newer 10x faster ASIC which is made by the same very company is ready to enter the "testing" phase so prepare your cash to buy it in 3 ~ 6 months lol, nothing personal aight, take care ciaoyes get into the asics arms race and be ready to make losses and have to sucker somebody into buying your out dated miner just so u can roi and buy the next big new miner to end up doing the same in 3 months frame rinse and repeat, anybody denying that is just some asic manufacturer troll, some people come here and be like haters na na na bla bla anybody has the audacity to defend this whole ASIC monopoly crap is just plain stupid or paid to do so, peace
i hope nobody ever makes it, will be bad for the whole eco system , look @ x11 a mess ... and mine and auto dump at once multi pool style and soon u will have nothing else profitable to mine at all but guess u just don't care u just want a couple of bucks now and that's it , sad yea ...
I don't agree with that, it will be auto dump and couple of bucks in the short term, but thats what auto-switch pools are for.. if you believe a coin will increase in value and you want to invest, just mine it or buy it
yes multipools kill the value of any coin soon if multipools start adopting monero or any other cryptonote currency soon they will all devalue and once again nothing profitable to mine so do you want to make the absolute most for another month then boom nada ?! like how it happened with all other coins, right now there is nothing to mine but cryptonote ... all other algos are not profitable to mine because of multipools dumping their prices into the pits of hell, take care
ASIC mining aahhh, you will never get ROI so get over it , ASICs are only there to make the manufacturers rich and that's about it , can't put it in a simpler way than that , aight ? take care and don't waste your money
i hope nobody ever makes it, will be bad for the whole eco system , look @ x11 a mess ... and mine and auto dump at once multi pool style and soon u will have nothing else profitable to mine at all but guess u just don't care u just want a couple of bucks now and that's it , sad yea ...
I think a donation fee is ok. Its fair to give developer a share, and this way everyone donates proportional to their "income".
5% is not okay though because we have electricity to pay for too ...
A miner which gives you 2x the speed of regular one (if any!) and you think 5% is too much?
Don't use it then.
Its a win-win for the developer AND users. Until better way to reward devs is found
we have to cover electricity costs 5% is too much and he charges that much because he knows we don't have any other option, if i'm not going to profit (electricity is 80% of my mining revenue + 5% dev fee + 2% pool fee) after paying for electricity then what is the point .....
also 2 x faster 100 x faster difficulty will normalize that when everybody starts using that miner
devfee should never be over 1 ~ 2 % as a maximum because tons of users will be using that miner and hash for him at no electricity cost so why be greedy, i mean the dev will still end with a huge amount of electricity free hashes ...
Honestly, a dev for a miner will get more at 2% or lower dev fee, because people will more likely give a donation that will surpass the 5% from the richer miners/investors. This is my opinion though.
Noooooooooope.
(actually those who give aren't generally the big whale (who have to pay their electricity bill and pool fee... good one ) but rather the small users, or some coin supporters in some case... the community doesn't show a lot its appreciation... )look u r going to defend the 5% fee and then u come here and talk oh come on even the op doesn't agree with such a high fee ... that is pure GREED period !
why do i keep seeing devfee : found share like all the time it's like the miner is mining for him rather than me i see dev fee found share more than i see found share without the "dev fee :"
somebody wants to explain
somebody wants to explain
why wouldn't u mine with them yourself ? just a question, oh yeah the answer is they will never mine 2.8 BTCs in their whole useful life before they become door stoppers @ difficulty 100k +
I receive a Blizzard Hurricane X6 from Zeusminers, Thank you Zeusminer!
I measure 80 DB noise. 240 Watt@240Volt Platinum PSU
Made a nice video whit a review:
http://youtu.be/j_HybV03C_M (still uploading)
My Website (more photo`s and video`s) Bitcoinupdate.nl
I measure 80 DB noise. 240 Watt@240Volt Platinum PSU
Made a nice video whit a review:
http://youtu.be/j_HybV03C_M (still uploading)
My Website (more photo`s and video`s) Bitcoinupdate.nl
won't ROI , good luck lol , that thing is useless out of the box 11 mh/s is nothing now , difficulty 25k+ and by the end of next month maybe 100k+
people, 6.1 miner sucks.
it shows a couple % more hash in miner itself, but pool says 20-30% less, and you get 20-30% less xmr in your wallet.
also, clay added two more dev fee adresses for you guys that are using older minerproxys.
4.0 miner + minerproxy works the best.
5% is just too much.
it shows a couple % more hash in miner itself, but pool says 20-30% less, and you get 20-30% less xmr in your wallet.
also, clay added two more dev fee adresses for you guys that are using older minerproxys.
4.0 miner + minerproxy works the best.
5% is just too much.
Yup, I totally agree! I was getting robbed using 6.1. Going back to 4.0 brought up my hash at both pools I use. **6.1 is a piece of shit**
does 4.0 work for older 6900 , 5800 series GPUs ?!
and yes 5% is too high , period
don't now that.
you can use newer versions of miner that works, and also use the newest version of minerproxy.
what does miner proxy do ?
people, 6.1 miner sucks.
it shows a couple % more hash in miner itself, but pool says 20-30% less, and you get 20-30% less xmr in your wallet.
also, clay added two more dev fee adresses for you guys that are using older minerproxys.
4.0 miner + minerproxy works the best.
5% is just too much.
it shows a couple % more hash in miner itself, but pool says 20-30% less, and you get 20-30% less xmr in your wallet.
also, clay added two more dev fee adresses for you guys that are using older minerproxys.
4.0 miner + minerproxy works the best.
5% is just too much.
Yup, I totally agree! I was getting robbed using 6.1. Going back to 4.0 brought up my hash at both pools I use. **6.1 is a piece of shit**
does 4.0 work for older 6900 , 5800 series GPUs ?!
and yes 5% is too high , period
I think a donation fee is ok. Its fair to give developer a share, and this way everyone donates proportional to their "income".
5% is not okay though because we have electricity to pay for too ...
A miner which gives you 2x the speed of regular one (if any!) and you think 5% is too much?
Don't use it then.
Its a win-win for the developer AND users. Until better way to reward devs is found
we have to cover electricity costs 5% is too much and he charges that much because he knows we don't have any other option, if i'm not going to profit (electricity is 80% of my mining revenue + 5% dev fee + 2% pool fee) after paying for electricity then what is the point .....
also 2 x faster 100 x faster difficulty will normalize that when everybody starts using that miner
devfee should never be over 1 ~ 2 % as a maximum because tons of users will be using that miner and hash for him at no electricity cost so why be greedy, i mean the dev will still end with a huge amount of electricity free hashes ...
I think a donation fee is ok. Its fair to give developer a share, and this way everyone donates proportional to their "income".
5% is not okay though because we have electricity to pay for too ...
can we expect to mine with this without being forced to pay that stupid 5% miner fee that claymore miner has ... also the way he forces us makes feel that this guy can't really be trusted ...
Of course - it's open source. But while I don't agree with the amount of his fee, I think devs should be paid - and it's not like more than 2-3% of people donate.
i would have donated but the way he forces us makes me not wanna trust him .... and he is being very rude about it because he knows that his closed source software is the only one available to AMD cards also his software is under developed it doesn't even show cards temps how lazy is that and still forcing us to pay him for that lousy job of his just because he knows that we have no other option
I released a 2x faster cpuminer for XMR a while ago - I got less than 0.2 BTC in donations. Believe me, donators are in the minority.
well at least u were a decent man and still started a new open source gpu miner project despite the low donation, that's something
can we expect to mine with this without being forced to pay that stupid 5% miner fee that claymore miner has ... also the way he forces us makes feel that this guy can't really be trusted ...
Of course - it's open source. But while I don't agree with the amount of his fee, I think devs should be paid - and it's not like more than 2-3% of people donate.
i would have donated but the way he forces us makes me not wanna trust him .... and he is being very rude about it because he knows that his closed source software is the only one available to AMD cards also his software is under developed it doesn't even show cards temps how lazy is that and still forcing us to pay him for that lousy job of his just because he knows that we have no other option
can we expect to mine with this without being forced to pay that stupid 5% miner fee that claymore miner has ... also the way he forces us makes feel that this guy can't really be trusted ...
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
The simple and basic reason is that there is far more volume with reddit and the 5000+ readers than here which has the same ~30 people posting.
"5000+ readers"
...with a collective IQ that doesn't reach that same number.
"~30 people posting"
...which often means that there's actual intelligence being expressed and the multitude of readers get their answers before having to post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats
...and the idiots think twice before posting crap.
Add: so in reference to my first question/allusion on the matter, if a Dev gives more importance to reddit than BitCoinTalk, then
1) he/she is afraid of the technical level inherent in BitCoinTalk
2) he/she is frivolous, juvenile and only interested in being "virtually" popular (i.e. "liked")
3) he/she is not interested in serious intellectual interchange regarding coin development
4) all the above
(Now you have the full version of my original tongue-in-cheek humor - please show your intelligence when responding.)
sorry but that's a punch of crap all together lol
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
Please do not change Block Maturation
See the Market reaction. It's dumping now.
Only the PoW algo needs to evolve to keep vertcoin Asic resistance.
See the Market reaction. It's dumping now.
Only the PoW algo needs to evolve to keep vertcoin Asic resistance.
I think a regular algo change is the way to go to beat ASICs.
Please do not listen to shirenlihei....Block Maturation Needs to be changed.
no it does not lol
u r giving multipools a lot more noise than what they are actually worth ... at this point there effect is limited, period ...