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Re: Cheers to those of us that has no guidance.
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DaveNeck
on 13/03/2024, 17:50:42 UTC
There are some of us that were introduced into this forum by either a friend, a relative or a family friend and after introducing us to this platform we were left at our own fate without any advice or guidelines on how to navigate through the forum but yet we stood determined to succeed and we starting learning by ourselves, getting helps and information from people in this forum, Google, and YouTube and as time goes on we became accustomed to how almost everything is working now and it looked as if we never had a difficult beginning.

 I urge and encourage everyone that feel left alone or abandoned when they were introduced to this platform and I tell you that no knowledge is easier to acquire than the knowledge you sort for yourself rather than relying on others to be your road map. Every little beginning has a greater ending as all you need is to be focused and sort to learn more and say less as those are the channel to arriving your destination.

I think because of the nature of the forum and it's educating nature it's easier for inquisitive minds who got introduced into the forum without a mentor or guidance find it not really a difficult of a task bacause the more you read is the more you are opened to what the platform really entails.
Everyone who is really interested in making a difference on the forum must have to do some research and finding then discover the secrets of making a positive progress on the forum
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Re: Reason why the rich always get richer
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DaveNeck
on 12/03/2024, 13:41:08 UTC
Getting rich or been wealthy is never a day job as we may say it, it is always like a journey of a thousand miles which always begins with a step, there are certain strategies u need to consider self discipline is one of it commiting your self also on a longtime investment (goal).
Also been a salary earner won't make you get richer if you are not investing on it, it is always about what you do with the income you have, there is this saying that says no risk no reward people that gets rich in life are also risk takers.
The rich also invest on a long time asset that will be profitable to them in time coming while other people save their money stuck in the bank without any profit the are busy making their money grow for them on what they have invest into, it can be real estate and other profitable businesses.


It's natural that the rich always get richer because opportunities always needs preparedness to be able to cause a fruitful harvest, the  rich are not afraid to invest and take risk because they already have more than enough  The main reason why the rich get richer is because they have access to more resources, which gives them an advantage in terms of growing their wealth. They have more money to invest, more opportunities to network, and more access to education and other resources that can help them become even more successful. This opportunity creates a cycle that makes  the rich become richer, while those who are already disadvantaged become even more.
Omoh this whole situation can not be helped because one will always need capatal to catch up with an opportunity.
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What is the nature of life when life is not constant?
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DaveNeck
on 10/03/2024, 14:39:11 UTC
⭐ Merited by CryptopreneurBrainboss (1)
This is  a really deep and philosophical question. It's tough  but I have given it a shot! If we consider the idea that life is not constant, we might say that it's dynamic, ever-changing, and unpredictable. In a world where nothing is guaranteed, life can be seen as an ongoing process of growth, change, and adaptation. We might say that life is fluid, always in motion, and always evolving.
 When we consider life as a fluid, we're looking at it in terms of its ability to change and adapt. Just like water takes on the shape of its container, life takes on the shape of the circumstances and experiences we encounter. Nothing is static, and everything is in flux. The fluidity of life allows us to respond to new situations and challenges, and to grow and evolve over time.
 Life is definitely dynamic, ever-changing, and unpredictable. I think it's both inspiring and intimidating to think about how life is always in motion. On the one hand, it means that we're never stuck in one place and that there's always the potential for change. On the other hand, it can be overwhelming to think about how we can't control everything that happens in our lives. I think the key is to find a balance between embracing change and maintaining a sense of stability and control.

 What do you think about life in general give your thoughts
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Re: Demerit of Petroleum Industrial Act in Niger Delta Communities
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DaveNeck
on 10/03/2024, 14:09:56 UTC
Since the inception of oil and gas operations in Nigeria there has been series of crisis across the oil and gas producing regions as a result of greed and selfish interest from different socio-cultural and political group over who control the resources. Many lives and properties have been destroyed because little money inconcated in the memorandum of understanding between the oil companies and the host communities across Niger delta of Nigeria. If the Niger delta communities can kill themselves because of little money in the memorandum of understanding between the host communities and the oil and gas companies I'm afraid of what will happen when 3% of oil revenue will allocated to the oil and gas producing communities.
If care is not taken among the host communities there will be a serious problem that will be severe among the Niger delta oil and gas producing communities

There are a few key disadvantages of the Petroleum Industry Act (PIA) in the Niger Delta region. First, it fails to adequately address the issue of pollution and environmental damage caused by the oil industry. Second, it doesn't provide adequate compensation for the communities that have been affected by the oil industry. Third, it doesn't do enough to promote sustainable development in the region. These are just a few of the criticisms that have been leveled against the PIA.

 The PIA has led to a number of negative impacts on the Niger Delta region, including vandalism and damage to property. It's true that the PIA doesn't do enough to address the concerns of the people living in the affected areas. This has led to feelings of resentment and frustration among the people who have been negatively impacted by the oil industry.

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Re: Hunger in the country
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DaveNeck
on 10/03/2024, 10:27:04 UTC
Hunger is the major challenge Nigerian is facing now and this has affected both the rich and the poor as price of food is increasing on daily basis. Although the rich are a little bit leverage to this situation than the poor because irrespective of the metamorphism of the increment of the of price of food across the country they will still have some money to afford food stocks but the poor are left with no choice than the mercy of hunger and suffering. It's funny to see a country that is well known for agriculture as means of export going through this level of hardship and hunger.

 Hunger situation in Nigeria is something that requires a complex and multifaceted solution. There are a lot of factors that contribute to the issue of hunger in Nigeria, including poverty, lack of access to food, and poor infrastructure. To address the issue, I think it would be important to focus on things like economic development, improved agricultural practices, and increased access to clean water and sanitation. It's a big challenge, but I believe that it's possible to make progress if we take a holistic approach.

There are a few different things that could be done to address the issue from a holistic perspective. First, I think it's important to invest in economic development and infrastructure in rural areas, so that people have the opportunity to earn a living and improve their standard of living. Second, it's important to improve agricultural practices and increase food production, so that there is enough food to go around. Third, it's important to invest in clean water and sanitation infrastructure, so that people have access to the basic necessities for good health. I think these are just a few examples of the types of holistic approaches that could be taken to address the issue of hunger in this country our government instead on focusing on this things go about borrowing money for really unnecessary things ..
These men have trialers or food stocked up for them and there family as such they don't see the need for an emergency response to the hardship faced by the average Nigerian
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Re: What if the Bitcoin was in note?
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DaveNeck
on 10/03/2024, 10:13:33 UTC
In all countries around the world there currencies are all printed in paper which is called note though there maybe countries who still use coins till now. All around the world money can be misplaced maybe from your pocket, your hand or maybe your wallet may even get lost but still some people don't feel it when their money get lost because it's not that very high in exchange like in Nigeria where we have our highest currency which happens to be 1k and many other currencies like #500, #200, #100 and others most times we misplace this money and others pick it up with joy of having what you didn't work for but in this recent economy everybody has refused to lose money as usual ( laugh ).

What if the Bitcoin was in notes and with the same value as it has now, do you think anyone would misplace it or even walk with it on the street. Eventually you see a Bitcoin note will you return it to the owner. Let's be sincere and also see it as fun.

If Bitcoin was a physical note, it would definitely change the way people think about and use it. It would be much easier to carry around and exchange, and it might even gain more mainstream acceptance. However, it would also lose some of the unique features that make Bitcoin so special, like its decentralization and immutability. I think it's an interesting thought experiment, but I'm not sure if it would be better for Bitcoin in the long run.
I think the main appeal of Bitcoin is its ability to operate outside of traditional financial systems, and I think making it a physical note would make it less unique and revolutionary. Still, it's always fun to think about what could be if things were different.  I wouldn't even appreciate it were in a note because this uniqueness of it comes from the peculiarity of it so I don't  think it would be better of in note
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Re: Is Coinbase the Next Target after Binance For Nigerians
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DaveNeck
on 09/03/2024, 23:19:43 UTC
Before i could say anything, maybe you should first hear out what the Coinbase Boss have to say

https://twitter.com/BTC_Archive/status/1762902467149238493?t=QX6b1x5RQozwEr5ZcnqPig&s=19
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/29/fS0Hd.jpeg

I don't know what others are perceiving already about the recent clampdown of the Nigerian government on the use of Binance Exchange as they resulted to the cause of rise ion the USD value is due to the eminent presence of the global centralized exchange called Binance.

Coinbase has made a release on the recent challenges they experience on their platform as a result of over traffic, which means they are receiving a lot of users clogging up their network of recent, could this be that the ban on the use of p2p in Nigeria erupted the decision to many of them in deciding to make use of Coinbase for their trading or something else happened behind the sudden network congestion received by Coinbase.
Coinbase is a well-established and reputable cryptocurrency exchange, and it has a presence in Nigeria. However, it's worth noting that Binance is still the largest cryptocurrency exchange in the world, and it's unclear whether Coinbase can really compete with it in terms of market share. Additionally, Binance has a lot of features that make it attractive to Nigerian users, such as low fees and a wide range of coins. So, while Coinbase may have some advantages, it's hard to say for sure whether it will be able to overtake Binance
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Re: Take your Job/fund security seriously
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DaveNeck
on 09/03/2024, 08:52:48 UTC
With the way country hard now and new jobs no even de come out like that,  we no need talk am two times say make everybody secure wetin de fetch am money with the whole of him hand.

That job when you de look am like say nothing come out, if you know the number of person's when de pray say na them get that opportunity, e go shoke you. As e be now, anybody when try carry you along, come  give you legit update when go fit de fetch you one or two no be person you suppose play with and na this kind time we no need play with any opportunity when come our way.

We de complain say country hard but we no go  really know how hard e de until we use carelessness lose our legitimate source of income or allow scammers steal our savings.

The market already de bullish and plenty fraudulent people de on the move to bring fake project and send plenty phishing links to use collect the small holding when we go don gather and so we need wise up secure our source of income and our income itself.

I no fit count the number of spams I de get recently for most of my handles trying to trick me into investing in shitty project and na now we need de wise enough to avoid wetin de too good to be true oh.


Well aticulated. What ever your hand findeth doing  do it with all your heart and then you will get the necessary results that you desire
In as much as one needs to take on every opportunity as soon as possible , u need to also be careful not to invest or do dealings with fraudulent people one needs to vert the people u gonna have dealings with especially when it comes to investment
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Re: Network issues these days
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DaveNeck
on 05/03/2024, 13:15:15 UTC
How much do you trust mobile network these days?

Since the beginning of these month and late last month the network issue has been unbelievable imagine when some one would have data but can't get access to the internet because of poor network. Yesterday was the worst I had an update I wanted to drop online before going to church but the network that morning was very bad even the recharge card I bought to make a call I couldn't load it, it was as if I was restricted from making phone calls or coming online at some point I taught it was my phone that was disturbing or even my SIM card but later observed from my neighbor that it was not only me.

If this network issues continues like this Omo it will be very bad oo. Nothing can be trusted now an emergency can occur but you can't trust your mobile network to deliver you then why the phone in our hands na wah oo.

The network glitch these days are just much on a serious note have been trying to find out what exactly causes these challenging network system the truth of the mater is that our network providers are not concerned about fixing the challenges that result to this network issues
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Re: Saving don't make wealth
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DaveNeck
on 04/03/2024, 16:48:31 UTC
Sincerely the concept of savings has made some persons poor,but many won't realize the fact that saving don't make the difference but investing does.
 Am not saying saving isn't good, but my point is saving doesn't make one wealthy, the worst advice we recieve is  'save for tomorrow' but only few lay emphasis on the need to 'invest for tomorrow'.
So I would greatly say we invest some of our profits from bitcoin in to other stuff, than just holding it or using it for pleasure. The rare truth is how we believe bitcoin can change the game, so other systems are developing so we shouldn't be blindfolded.
Invest because savings doesn't increase or builds, investing is what gives you the life you want.
   Let discuss this guys..
  No matter how many bitcoin you hold you can still misuse the money, so we should understand the concept of Richness and Wealth.
 


This is a factual truth people seem to value saving than investment a whole lot of times people always make saving there priority instead of investment
Investment is a multiplayer  while saving preserves sometimes without any interest or profit
 People should change there mentality as such they will begin to multiply there income
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Hard times in the average Nigerian society
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DaveNeck
on 04/03/2024, 10:54:06 UTC
Nigeria in recent times has recorded unprecedented security challenges such as Boko Haram Terrorists (BHTs) attacks, militancy, armed robbery, banditry, kidnapping for ransom, Fulani-Herders farmers clashes, cultism among other social vices could all this current social vices be attributed to difficulty caused by having too little money or too few resources by the federal  government .
The current economic issues   in most areas of Nigeria, state capacity is low, service delivery is limited, and insecurity and violence are widespread. Wide infrastructure gaps constrain access to electricity and hinder the domestic economic integration that would allow the country to leverage its large market size.

My question now is what exactly sponsors the untold hardship in the life of an average Nigerian
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Re: Nigeria Government Detains Two Binance Executives
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DaveNeck
on 03/03/2024, 15:58:07 UTC

I have long anticipated this particular event between the Nigeria government and binance to take place in the future which is happening now. I remember in my previous comments on a topic created here and the other platform where I said that the government would soon begin clamp down on binance just to get the list of Nigerians registered on their platform since their inception and here it is taking shape. I believe all these fight like I Initially said is just to get at binance to pay tax of all the transaction charges they've been benefitting from Nigeria p2p trade deals.

I believe this is amongst the reasons why the clamp down is taking a different tone altogether and this was the response from the CBN governor when asked about the binance clampdown;
 “In the last four years, more than $26 billion have been funnelled through Binance without trace.”

I would not be surprised that some powers that be themselves are into the Crypto currency trade and are just hiding behind playing innocent but doing the unthinkable just to protect or cover up their dirty act with the funds under their custody.

In all, the major reasons behind this scuffle is just taxation. The Nigeria government just wants binance to pay tax of all transactions  they have conducted on the Nigeria binance p2p platform which they want to benefit from  that's all. That is a huge amount of money which they know themselves could benefit from through channeling it to other means in the name of projects and other engagements.

My concern now is this, would the federal government charge binance to pay for tax in arrears right from their inception and also charge Nigerians registered with binance to pay tax in same fate as they have begin to put pressure on binance to give them list and details of Nigerians registered with them right from their inception.

Your thoughts and opinions are welcomed.

Ref.




https[Suspicious link removed]cutives-in-abuja-demands-list-of-nigerians-on-global-crypto-platform/


on February 27, 2024, Olayemi Cardoso, governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), said $26 billion passed through Binance Nigeria from unidentified sources in one year.

Cardoso said the apex bank is collaborating with the SEC to ensure there is no manipulation in the FX market.Nigeria intensified its crackdown on cryptocurrency by detaining two executives of Binance, the prominent crypto trading platform that authorities allege enabled the naira currency’s slide to record lows this month.

The arrest, first reported by the Financial Times on Wednesday, follows a move last week that saw telecom providers shut off user access to the websites of Binance, Coinbase and other crypto exchanges. Crypto platforms have been scaling down services in Nigeria in the period since. On Wednesday, Binance stopped offering peer-to-peer trades that allowed users to exchange the naira for USDT, a digital currency pegged to the U.S. dollar.
The federal government probably are looking for recognition and partnership with binance maybe you  tell ,. They feel that binance makes a whole lot of money from Nigerians with no accountability
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Re: Binance problems with FG intensify
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DaveNeck
on 01/03/2024, 16:32:22 UTC
Well it's no news that the federal government are out to really put regulations on how cryptocurrency dealings should be operated in Nigeria and one of their main target has being binance exchange and just today we saw that binance has disabled their P2P method of trading coins for Nigerian users.

Now I see this link about binance exchange top official being detained.

https[Suspicious link removed]cutives-in-cryptocurrency-crackdown/amp/

I just dey wonder where this madness go stop with Federal government and their quest to actually track down transaction that is better left untracked and to what extent and how many exchange will they target too because I believe if dem continue this then to trade coins for naija go hard well well only of we all no migrate to using decentralized exchange to trade our coins .

In September 2023, Nigeria's Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) placed a disclaimer on Binance Nigeria Limited, saying the platform was “neither registered nor regulated by the Commission and its operations in Nigeria are therefore illegal
Nigerian authorities say Binance, which isn't registered to operate in the country, caused widespread economic disruption and contributed to the naira's 70% weakening in recent months. the BBC reported
My question is must the federal government always waste there energy and time on inrelevant things when they are supposed to be focusing on how to grow the economy and and create a conducive environment where investors can come in and then job creation for her citizens rather they will be chasing after shadows instead.
God help us and bless our hustle
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Re: Recent dollar price. A good one?
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DaveNeck
on 01/03/2024, 16:16:31 UTC
Within 24 hours,  dollar crashes massively against naira on # BINANCE.
The United States dollar crashed against the naira at the cryptocurrency peer- to - peer market platform binance. As of 8 am on Wednesday, the dollar trended for as high as #1,415 /$1 from as low as # 1606/$1 within 24 hours. At the time of writing this story the exchange rate was trading at #1458/$1.https://www.thegeniusmedia.com.ng/2024/02/28/breaking-within-24-hours-dollar-crashes-massively-against-naira-on-binance-details

It is a very nice one right but at first what should be considered is, this naira currency was lower than this before it came up to this amount now and since then we have been witnessing the up and down are you really happy about this or this is just a scam or do you think it will be better than this. Let's all watch and see what happens but some people are not happy about it right cause if you earn in dollar now your exchange will be low by now and if you earn high in dollar you still have to buy costly in naira so how do you view this. You wish to earn in dollar or you want the price of goods to come down in Nigeria.


All this up and down movement of the dollar against naira to me I feel it's not supposed to really affect the price of some things to the extent it has Nigerians are fund of taking advantage of circumstances just to make excessive profit
Things are not supposed to have gone these far bad but our Nigerians will always be Nigerians everybody wants to use the current situation as a means of cash out  which is not supposed to be so may God help us in this country
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Re: The cause of inflation
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DaveNeck
on 01/03/2024, 16:08:15 UTC
Many of us thinks the rise of inflation and the weakness of the naira currency is because of the new government we have in the country.  Before now a state governor was complaining about how the past government was printing of money, and many people thought it was just propaganda which they took it very lightly.  The hardships and the high inflation rate we are seeing today is as a result of printing money that has been taking place longtime ago.

The cause of the inflation is nothing but as a result of printing money that is naira is losing value constantly everyday. The economy has never been bad like this, we are facing the consequences of wrong economy doings.

The current inflation in Nigeria is more of 'supply driven' inflation than a 'demand driven' one. Policy rate adjustments as a tool becomes ineffective when an inflationary trend is dominantly supply driven. We tend to often argue that our inflation is caused by excess money supply in the system chasing too few goods.

The devaluation of the naira is a top driver of inflation as it leads to higher import costs that ripple through the economy and affect production costs and other supply chain dynamics. This has resulted in elevated costs for machinery, fertilizers, and other inputs for farmers, which can result in higher food prices.
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Re: Bitcoiners don't spend all your profits.
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DaveNeck
on 29/02/2024, 15:58:50 UTC
Good morning my fellow Naija people in the local board, I brought this topic to encourage our Naija local board bitcoiners not to spend all their profits they made from this bull run because, I know that many people have started selling their BTC to increase their wealth. I know that many people will start using the profits they made from this bull run to do other things and forget to save money to buy BTC when the bear market occur again, and it will be a good thing, if you can spend and still remain some money to invest in BTC when the bear market come. I know that is not easy to save money in this high inflation, but spend and save some money that you will invest in BTC in the future no matter the situation you are facing right now.

I know there are some people that depend on their signature campaign only, which is not a good idea because, anything can happen that will make you not to get the opportunity to work in the signature campaign but if you invest some money on BTC, I believe you will have hope of winning something big from BTC when the bull run occur.  What is your opinion.

The worst thing that can happen to a man is to have a singular source of income there is absolutely no way u can meet up ur demands so one needs to have multiple sources of income
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Re: COULD THIS BE CALLED ADAPTATION?
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DaveNeck
on 29/02/2024, 15:04:35 UTC
Is very funny how we complain about so many things going wrong in our economy but at end everyone we tend to grow a thicker skin and adapt to the system and it will be seen like nothing happened within a Short time, now my question is, should we keep adapting and growing a thicker skin? or we should be expecting war, because i don't really understand where our government is taking us to, alot is really happening. What is your opinion on this?


Omoh this country is heading no where good I think this might result in another end SARS where if care is not taken will turn out to be war because wen it gets to the point where people can no longer bear it they will react  and it might not all go down well
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Re: Do not overwork yourself
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DaveNeck
on 27/02/2024, 20:09:25 UTC
Utilize your body for retirement so that you can fit in to handle your other phases in life of chasing income at your depreciations of man-power to activeness.
So many people are too eager uncontrollably chasing after income without undermining their ages and so as considering the health fitness of themselves at ages.

Honestly I don't think one should continue to work all the days of his or her life while advancing one should be make provisions for his last days where he can sit down not stress much and  make a living
So I honestly think it's all about planning for the future
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Re: Taking advantage of situations positively
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DaveNeck
on 27/02/2024, 19:48:37 UTC
Yesterday night, I was chatting with my female friend, but her response was slow, I switched over to call, and I noticed that her environment was noisy, she promise to return the call and hanged up. I went back on chat to inquire why she was at a noisy environment by 8:30pm, thinking she was out enjoying herself.
To my greatest surprise, she was at the place she sells fishes in the evenings after work. This lady in question is a shoe designer and has her own shop. Earlier this year, she launched her industrial cleaning business and just yesterday, she confirmed to me that she now has people working under her. I further inquire about the source of the fishes, she  plainly told me that she purchase them at the fish camp and resell them at a higher price in the evenings.

This struck me deep at how much the lady is taking advantage of the situation of the country to expand her finances when  most people I see everyday on the streets just sit and complain about the bad condition of the country and still do nothing about it to better their life. She bursted my bubbles by mentioning that food is a necessity, and no matter how bad the country is, people will always find a way to feed at least.

I couldn't help but meditate all night on this little discussion I has yesterday, now the question is:
Have you thought about this before?
What plans have you to take advantage of the situation of the country to your own benefit?
Would you quit complaining and take proper action?
How much have you taken advantage of the bull run coming to  stack up bitcoin for yourself?
Is it possible?, Yes it is.

The story I shared with you challenged me personally that I've not done enough to take advantage of the situation. I hope it challenges you too to get out of your shell, take the bull by the horn, and most importantly, take charge of your financial expansion.
It is possible, you only need to employ an entrepreneur's mindset, an open and optimistic mind, and a strong desire to achieve your aim, it will interest you that the bitcoin we enjoy today is a testimony of taking advantage of a situation of government exploits to creating a decentralized monetary system. One thing I've learned  is that when things gets really bad, it opens up numerous opportunities to make it big if only you can spot them and take action.

I've fixed a time for further discussion with the lady and a possible investment from me if its scalable by next tomorrow at a bar as I promised to buy her a drink for impressing me with her exploits.


That's a very nice and brave approach to savage the economic downtrain we mustn't wait for government to better our lives for us I believe we by ourselves can make the best for ourselves 
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What is really the future of Nigeria
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DaveNeck
on 24/02/2024, 14:16:10 UTC
My fear about Nigeria
Nigeria has been a country of promising dream and a better future to it's young citizens but with the look of things it seems like time is revealing the actual fate for Nigerians, the dream people had when they were much younger only to grow up and realize that the system does not allow dreams come through .
   Just some days back I had a dream about Nigeria and in my dream I saw people running up and down and protested left, right and center and I came to discover that they were protesting against the government and the government ordered that they be shot directly at and that was how people were dieing in their numbers and it became a serious issue that led the country to a very devastated state  with the way things are going in this country it's looking like there is no hope for the country on a daily basis
    The solution to all this lies in democracy for as long as we can not have democracy there can never be good gorvernance the system in the Nigerian politics needs a total reformation to make it work
    What posible solutions do u think Nigeria needs to be a better place please give your thoughts