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Re: ⚡B2BX⚡THE FIRST OFFICIAL PROVIDER OF CRYPTOCURRENCY LIQUIDITY
1. sharing 20% of your net profit with token holders. You removed this entirely! So no more active participants, no more 20% sharing.
As for the question why did we decide to close the Active Participants Club? B2BX as well as the large majority of other tokens is a utility token. While negotiating with the exchanges regarding listing we were told that the existence of APC can carry a risk of our token being considered a security since participants can earn additional token income. Most exchanges dont list and dont work with security tokens, because security tokens are basically a stock and should comply with the relevant SEC regulation. To avoid the risk of being considered a security token, we decided to close the Active Participant Club.
2. Commissions to be paid exclusively in B2B token, but you also accept fiat and claim to "purchase tokens from the market". Here is how you purchase tokens from the market:
https://imgur.com/zJ9og16
You just use bot to place buy and sell order from your self. Technically, you are purchasing B2B tokens, the problem is, you are not buying them from organic market, you are buying them from your self and it doesn't affect demand so the price stagnates.
https://imgur.com/zJ9og16
You just use bot to place buy and sell order from your self. Technically, you are purchasing B2B tokens, the problem is, you are not buying them from organic market, you are buying them from your self and it doesn't affect demand so the price stagnates.
We don't use a bot in order to buy tokens from ourselves. I don't see any data on this screenshot that can possibly prove that we are cheating.
3. Other fees for your services are CAN be paid in B2B but you also accept fiat and other cryptocurrencies. So payment with B2B is optional.
So what exactly is the use of your "utility token"?
I just cannot believe you cannot understand this. Its not that hard!
So what exactly is the use of your "utility token"?
I just cannot believe you cannot understand this. Its not that hard!
Why are payments with B2B optional? It is pretty simple, our token is available to our clients, but not as a mandatory because in this way we can attract more clients and those clients gonna use our tokens. For instance, they will pay a lower commission if they use our token instead of using bitcoin or ethereum.
1. Now you are admitting you closed active participants club completely? I mean, just a few days a go, you said its just some token holders now, others later.... etc...
2. yes you do use bot, DONT make me to take a video this time what you are doing on sh*tty mercatox! Just dont, I have other things to do, just dont want it to seem as I lost an argument and your company is not scamming people cause it is a scamming people. Dont make me take a video how a sale is executed before general users can even see an offer...
3. Payments optional mean usage of B2B is optional, meaning people who have ETH or LTC will prefer to pay in ETH or LTC, ppl with fiat will prefer fiat etc...we talked about this already.
So, as of now, no participants club, you use bots to sell / buy your own tokens to increase volume and payments in B2B are optional.
Look Noa, on some level I am sure you understand all this but you have a job to do to defend these people as an employee, but I got to say, its a sh*tty job you got yourself there!
Finally, you need to understand that I know this project inside and out. I know where its strengths could be, weaknesses and where you are scamming people. For example, I also know that you employed bots on your exchange to boost volume and I can even post a proof here if you make me.
What you need to do is, sit and talk to your community and give them a share. Give them something so they profit as well. Get together, explain that you are canceling APC but add something to replace it. Also, you take fiat for fees and buy tokens from your self. Explain to your community that it isnt easy to explain to professionals that they need to shop around exchanges to gather tokens for fees, but provide a solution that will make them profit too, not just buying from your self...be creative and most of all methodical...
There are solutions, which wouldnt cost you much, but would have enormous impact on token price.
If you are fair, that is what you need to do. Take it up to your bosses and if they are not greedy pricks I think they are, they will do it.
What goes around, comes around. You don't hear us. We don't buy from ourselves, we buy on the exchange. We announced on Friday that we close the club of active participants. Our participants will get their profit during the process of trade on the exchange as a result of token growing price. The "Share profit" will just spoil the listing. We are tired to repeat that. This is our last message which we publish here within the context of this, unfortunately, senseless conversation.
Being rude, does not answer the questions.
Tokenomy/Active participants benefit description, was available during the pre-sale and sale of your tokens, but as soon as its time to start actually filling your promises BAM it vanishes and such remarks as "we cant as if we do our token will be considered as security" are foolish as you needed to think of it before including it into documentation.
In your case, only way to regain some type of trust, is to buy-back and burn token equivalent of 20% profits.
But on the other hand, about what GOOD BIG EXCHANGE listing you are talking about, Kraken? Binance? the only listing you must get is Mt. Gox. as non of your promises were filled.
Re: ⚡B2BX⚡THE FIRST OFFICIAL PROVIDER OF CRYPTOCURRENCY LIQUIDITY
Of course, you may ask everything you want to know about our project and I'll answer.
ho hooooo bois, same account but new cookie it seems... buckle up!
Here, mr. I answer everything:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2149935.msg31419085#msg31419085
Start there and continue reading my posts.
Wash trading (volume went down 80 times since I reported this, from 2 million on average to 25k)??
Tokenomy, changing tokenomy active participants to non-obligatory 20% of net profit share with them?
Accepting fiat money for fees, then buying them from your self instead of exchanges from people who invested, hence why the price didnt move.
etc etc etc
so many things exposed about your company SCAM and you want me to avoid word scam... read my posts you will find definition of a word scam too (should be your company picture next to it in dictionary).
Also, after I made these posts, got investors riled up seeking answers, price of B2B token went up 120 - 140% at a time. Only time that happened is in January when you started accepting commission for your products, but it would seem you dont like sharing with investors, you would rather have all that money for your self.
Anyway, any sane person will not believe B2B lies any more. You have been exposed and I just wish more people read this so you dont dump the rest of your tokens on them!
So here is your chance, answer all of my posts with evidence, or be quiet!
P.S. I am banned on your telegram channel, cant ask anything any more
The answer will be: "We are not a scam, we are a good project, don't call us a scam".
But it seems that they are not reading older questions/posts or they cant answer them.
Re: ⚡B2BX⚡THE FIRST OFFICIAL PROVIDER OF CRYPTOCURRENCY LIQUIDITY
Seeing as they didnt reply to any of the issues I brought up, except just saying " we dont do wash trading", here is a little update for everyone:
- they said they dont do "wash trading", however, after my post I waited for their response which never came. After that, I sent notifications to all major exchanges (yes, ALL more or less, especially ones they were in talks with). After the post and my letter, B2B volume on exchanges dropped some 80x. From 2 million to 25k !!!!!!! For me, that is undisputable proof they WERE doing wash trading and after it stopped (probably after being notified by exchanges that they are aware of what they are doing), volume dropped around 80 times!
- Reason I am writing again is because team and company has 4 millions of tokens in their possession that are unlocked now! Now, IF or WHEN they get next big news, exchanges come to mind, you will experience them dumping one last reason to care about token value.
For all the people here thinking, dont care about all this, they said big exchange is coming soon I wil make some profit, I say:
Once they get on big exchange, I believe they will use that news / hype to dump their tokens on you and after that, they will have 0 reason to use tokens, add to their value or even pretend to care!
Edit: Got banned from telegram chat for asking these questions again. Too bad, many dont read whitepaper, let alone these posts.
- they said they dont do "wash trading", however, after my post I waited for their response which never came. After that, I sent notifications to all major exchanges (yes, ALL more or less, especially ones they were in talks with). After the post and my letter, B2B volume on exchanges dropped some 80x. From 2 million to 25k !!!!!!! For me, that is undisputable proof they WERE doing wash trading and after it stopped (probably after being notified by exchanges that they are aware of what they are doing), volume dropped around 80 times!
- Reason I am writing again is because team and company has 4 millions of tokens in their possession that are unlocked now! Now, IF or WHEN they get next big news, exchanges come to mind, you will experience them dumping one last reason to care about token value.
For all the people here thinking, dont care about all this, they said big exchange is coming soon I wil make some profit, I say:
Once they get on big exchange, I believe they will use that news / hype to dump their tokens on you and after that, they will have 0 reason to use tokens, add to their value or even pretend to care!
Edit: Got banned from telegram chat for asking these questions again. Too bad, many dont read whitepaper, let alone these posts.
Hahahaha, got also banned from Telegram, after asking why the smart contract isn't public and making fun of them after they reply "We are afraid someone will hack it"
Why do you even lean in Crypto if you can't write decent smart-contract...As for the major exchanges, if they have at least some compliance checks they will not be added there. And for now on with 20-25k in daily volumes this token looks like something of extremely poor quality, excrement.
Additionally just noticed that such big names as Integral, PrimeXM, OneZero and several advisers vanished form their website, so nobody wants to spoil their reputation by partnering with them
The only decent thing was Tokenomy, but also as you said before its not there anymore.
Re: ⚡B2BX⚡THE FIRST OFFICIAL PROVIDER OF CRYPTOCURRENCY LIQUIDITY
Good afternoon, you can read more about the active members of B2BX,
could not find information about bonuses for hold a certain number of B2BX tokens ?
could not find information about bonuses for hold a certain number of B2BX tokens ?
So in my opinion, they were just getting funds to advertise existing products as well as to get a bucket shop license (Cyprus or similar) to become and ordinary FX broker. Still, the best part was "We will accept payments only in B2B tokens" that will never come to live.
I agree, seems like they just used the ico to collect money. Started out as instutional broker and now it transforms to regular broker. I am glad that i am out with no losses......
Not as institutional broker, but some sort of synergy between aggregator and exchange (still very doubtful model). So now money is in the bank and all the news we see is that they update current products, participate in exhibitions and visiting interesting countries.
Re: ⚡B2BX⚡THE FIRST OFFICIAL PROVIDER OF CRYPTOCURRENCY LIQUIDITY
Good afternoon, you can read more about the active members of B2BX,
could not find information about bonuses for hold a certain number of B2BX tokens ?
could not find information about bonuses for hold a certain number of B2BX tokens ?
It was removed from their website
In some previous posts the archive link was posted (posted by pirotick on page 41-42), also pretty nice to see that The first official provider of cryptocurrency liquidity for STOCK exchanges and brokers is spending money for CREDIT CARD acquiring license/engine. So in my opinion, they were just getting funds to advertise existing products as well as to get a bucket shop license (Cyprus or similar) to become and ordinary FX broker. Still, the best part was "We will accept payments only in B2B tokens" that will never come to live.
In the end token holders will get "Thank you and Good bye", and companieshouse https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10562809/filing-history B2Broker fillings history for the year 2018 shows it is dormant company with Ukrainian director and 1 GBP assets. Thus all main business activities are going through different companies pretty standard for the low unregulated/shell broker companies.
To sum up, great project, bright future...
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ ▞▞Decentralized taxi platform for freelance drivers▚▚
What's the status of pre-ICO and ICO? How many eth has been collected so far?
Hello,at the moment the pre-ICO is finished and ICO dates will be available in the nearest future preliminary it will start in January 2018!
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ ▞▞Decentralized taxi platform for freelance drivers▚▚
i like ICO name cryder; missed ya taxi? Don't cry, call cryder! 
Not bad but current slogan is much more simpler Privacy included.If any other cool ideas, welcome!
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ ▞▞Decentralized taxi platform for freelance drivers▚▚
So the pre-sale first day is 20% bonus on top of 3x the ICO value? That's not bad value
Indeed, that is pre-sale and as always, first investors have more benefits, to draw more attention. Let us know if you have any other question. Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ ▞▞Decentralized taxi platform for freelance drivers▚▚
How you guys going to make profit if you have 0 fees?
As we said many times before, in our opinion ICO's, that are issuing tokens, when they are already running business, and ICO is made just to add capital, is really unfair for investors. In such cases, they can get a loan in a bank or issue bonds, so they are just interested in cheap, % free capital. In our case, tokens performance is no way correlated to company performance.
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ ▞▞Decentralized taxi platform for freelance drivers▚▚
Nice idea, but need demo and real work first
Yes, indeed. That's why there is a gap between pre-sale and sale (90% of dev bill be done during that period) and shortly after final token sale, there will be alpha release of the platform. Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ ▞▞Decentralized taxi platform for freelance drivers▚▚
this is one hell of a project. i wonder how this will be used widely. uber and grab were already experiencing troubles here in our country, if this could work under the nose of the authorities and will have good value, i will probably try to drive for this token. there might not have users who does have such token in my country though
As stated many times before, our token is created not only to collect funds, but it will also have a real life application, so having a real life value.
Re: [BOUNTY] ✅ CRYDER ✅ ▞▞Decentralized taxi platform for freelance drivers▚▚
Nice project, but what is spectacular. It should be outlined.
Everything is pretty simple:- All operations are done by Smart contract
- The app itself is free to use and will always be
- Its private and invulnerable.
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ ▞▞Decentralized taxi platform for freelance drivers▚▚
A decentralized Uber is what this project going to become. Its about time and hopefully it has a cheaper and wider coverage without state intervention . But naturally we as passengers need insurance for our protection in case we figure in an accident.
You are almost right, except for the fact we do not charge any fees. Wider coverage?
Yes, just download the app and purchase Cryder tokens.
State intervention? Lets see how they gonna stop blockchain.
Passenger protection as we many times said, illegal stuff is illegal and other accidents, can always happen, there is no protection from that.
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ Платформа для внештатных водителй
Добрый день, смотрю Вы сами регулируете эту ветку. А менеджера нанимать планируете? А то ведь работы хватает.
Dayana, к сожалению мало вероятно, что кто-то лучше разработчиков, создателей и прямых участников проекта, сможет защитить и объяснить идею. Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ Платформа для внештатных водителй
Я бы не сказал, что у нас пофиг на конторы которые уклоняются от налогообложения, а как раз таки на оборот поэтому интересно как будет решатся этот вопрос.
Ну видите как все устроено - формально это не контора, а децентрализованная сеть, и как тут пояснили - уклоняться или нет от налогов, это личное дело каждого водителя. В таком случае предъявлять претензии остается только водителям, а так как все анонимно - то и предъявлять некому.Скажите, а много водителей такси работающих "на бардюре" платят налоги, ведь по ним и не скажешь, что они такси, да службы такси, которые работают официально не могут похвастаться своей прозрачностью.
По сути Cryder не может отвечать за уплату налогов, но мы можем дать людям платформу, для заработка денег, с которых платить налоги.
Главная проблема - это заработать денег, а налоги уже потом. Всё зависит от человека, а к сожалению, за человеческий фактор, никто не может нести ответственности.
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ Платформа для внештатных водителй
Вы же понимаете, что рано или поздо налоговая этим всем делом заинтересуется? Если налоговая и не запретит, то считаться с ней в любом случае придёться!!!
Casper, так-же нам бы хотелось добавить, что уплата налогов, это сугубо личная обязанность каждого человека, но возникает несколько интересных моментов:
1. Во многих странах, не крипто-валюты, не токены, не признаны платежным средством или эквивалентом денег.
2. Никто не запрещает водителю, по личной инициативе платить налоги с прибыли - опять таки возникает интересный вопрос, как он объяснит средне статистическому работнику налоговой, что токены - эквивалент денег.
Нам бы очень не хотелось, чтобы Cryder рассматривали, как платформу для незаконной или криминальной деятельности. Сама идея использования токенов, была взята за основу, по двум главным причинам:
Первая - Простота и дешевизна в использовании: Выбрал место, куда желаешь поехать, выбрал из предложенных цен, и по факту прибытия, оплата, проходит автоматически.
Вторая - приватность: Ваши личные данные, а также вся информация о личной жизни, остаются только с Вами.
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Как я уже и говорил, не в коем случае, мы не пытаемся способствовать незаконной деятельности, мы просто максимально упрощаем возможность стать водителем или пассажиром. Касательно конвертации крипты в фиат, принимая во внимание количество бирж и обменников, данная процедура, не должна составлять особого труда. Если даже сравнивать, нас с другими платформами, мы не ставим условий водителям и пассажирам и мы не навязываем свои тарифы.
Вы поймите, я не пытаюсь Вас тролить и не обвиняю Вас! Просто надо разЪяснить некоторые, вопросы, которые на мой взгляд, являются архи важными для состоятельности и жизнеспособности проекта!Напоминаем о существовании канала в Телеграмме
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ Платформа для внештатных водителй
Так как я живу в регионе, где с баблом вообще туган, а на такси можно за 100 рублей весь город объехать. То зачем мне этот проект? Просто интересно? Я ведь и так могу в яндексе работать или в Gett?
На сколько я помню, Yandex такси не супер глобальный рынок - есть другие страны и континенты, а так-же сами водители не очень их любят из-за низких ставок. В нашем случае, мы без прибыльная организация и следовательно % который водитель забирает себе - намного выше.
Да, но в нашем случае ценовую политику устанавливает рынок, т.е. водители и пассажиры, а принимая во внимание, что водитель не должен не с кем делиться, то он может предлагать более конкурентоспособные цены.
Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ Платформа для внештатных водителй
Для водителей и пассажиров все выглядит выгодно, но с точки зрения правового общества - как то не особо легально, есть факт уклонения от налогов. У нас то всем пофиг на это, но вот в странах, где большинство граждан - "сознательные" и законопослушные - тут хз как все будет. Можно конечно развивать мысль и предположить что водитель сам по своей сознательности, будет платить налог, но в любом случае для некоторых структур тут явный интерес будет.
Именно, наша позиция состоит в том, что каждый человек осознает свою ответственность, и принимая во внимание технические особенности Cryder'а, после запуска мы никак не можем на это повлиять.Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ✅ CRYDER ✅ Платформа для внештатных водителй
Тоесть получается, что фиатом никак не оплатить, следовательно тут возникает вопрос: как пассажиру купить ваши токены так, чтобы не надо было танцевать с бубном. и как их потом выводить водителю. Это может стать некой проблемой, потомучто до сих пор некоторые смартфонами пользоваться не умеют, а тут им еще крипту покупать
Приёма Фиата не будет, но будет возможность обмена фиата на токены в самой аппликации.