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Re: 🚀🔥 [ANN] ARBITRAGING (ARB/PoW) The Arbitrage Professionals 🚀🔥
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Edwinc08
on 16/06/2019, 19:09:24 UTC
How exactly does this token fuel mcafee magic? When they purchase the 1k membership, is it through ARB tokens?
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 19/07/2018, 09:47:27 UTC
Wew lads.  What a shitshow.  While I'll give serena and mojo credit for being the absolutely worst "community managers" ever since mojo banned me twice for absolutely no reason whatsoever.  The fact that mojo is a petulant child and cannot take any criticism also reflects poorly on captain dumbass's judgement and reasoning skills.  That's right mojo :middle_finger:  Enjoy being poor.  And serena, well now here's someone who has ZERO understanding of any blockchain technology.  And her sudden apology tour was 100% lulz when she knew her days were numbered.  I didn't buy her BS for a second.  Both of you, please, leave crypto.  You're both pathetic and should be working at McDonalds.

Then we have kryptoid (aka MrPoopyButthole) known serial scammer.  Captain dumbass once again does a bang up job picking his community managers.  Another idiot herding the bagholding sheep.  But maybe he's involved now because there is something more nefarious going on.

Everyone wonders why the code hasn't been released.  Also the idiots who think having the view key shows the premine is intact.  You believers are the highest order of idiot and should immediately well, nevermind.  I've never had dero, and honestly never will.  Dont' really care if it moons or goes to zero.  I do however feel bad when innocent people lose their funds or get dumped on by shady devs.  I don't really care about the people blowing their horn about how much they love this project, or will hold forever, those people cannot be expected to ever have an independent coherent thought.  Still no code released.  Just binaries.  Sure people, trust these "anonymous" devs.  They would never put anything malicious in the binaries, or they're not running on a central database somewhere to hold up their shoddy network.  And speaking of anonymous dev, captain dipshit isn't so anonymous.  I decided to dox him for the lulz and was actually amazed that he's been able to keep up the facade for as long as he has so far.  Take this as fud or curse my words, but this guy has dumped bags on people before and he will do it again.  I'll give him two days to come clean, or dump what's left of his premine before I out him.  The rest of you can DYOR but I assure you that rats will be jumping from the sinking ship.

Please out him now if you feel bad for innocent people losing their funds.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 19/07/2018, 09:41:46 UTC
Just change the algo... FPGA's have been around for a long time..., weird how the dero network was decentralized until asics. Also I have 100+ Mpbs… Not too long ago the Captain said he had the code to create an algo that will switch to over 100 different algos… Either he lied or wants asic centralization.

There is no such algo really anti-asic,GPU and CPU are ASICs too. As long as there is profit,ASIC will come.
If you understand this tech truth,you should not persist to something called anti-asic.Besides dero,many coin even hardfork twice and back to ASIC friendly POW,take ETN and sumokoin for reference.While Dero just stayed at cryptonight and avoid one more hardfork.

The most dangerous thing for centralized mining is 51% attack,while Dero is immune from  51% attack,so even stay at CryptoNight won't impact the network security.


How is Dero immune to a 51% attack? Please explain to me, I don't understand how Dero is immune to this.

Dero is based on BlockDAG paradigm where the satoshi consensus has been modified : The longest chain isn't the rule anymore, so you can't have such thing like 51% attack.

More detail : https://blog.daglabs.com/an-introduction-to-the-blockdag-paradigm-50027f44facb

You need asics for this?

Are you trolling ?  Huh

BlockChain, BlockDAG  Roll Eyes

No...  I am asking because the captain claimed the reason he went with asics was to prevent 51% attacks... So please explain.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 19/07/2018, 04:20:50 UTC
Just change the algo... FPGA's have been around for a long time..., weird how the dero network was decentralized until asics. Also I have 100+ Mpbs… Not too long ago the Captain said he had the code to create an algo that will switch to over 100 different algos… Either he lied or wants asic centralization.

There is no such algo really anti-asic,GPU and CPU are ASICs too. As long as there is profit,ASIC will come.
If you understand this tech truth,you should not persist to something called anti-asic.Besides dero,many coin even hardfork twice and back to ASIC friendly POW,take ETN and sumokoin for reference.While Dero just stayed at cryptonight and avoid one more hardfork.

The most dangerous thing for centralized mining is 51% attack,while Dero is immune from  51% attack,so even stay at CryptoNight won't impact the network security.


How is Dero immune to a 51% attack? Please explain to me, I don't understand how Dero is immune to this.

Dero is based on BlockDAG paradigm where the satoshi consensus has been modified : The longest chain isn't the rule anymore, so you can't have such thing like 51% attack.

More detail : https://blog.daglabs.com/an-introduction-to-the-blockdag-paradigm-50027f44facb

You need asics for this?
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 19/07/2018, 03:01:49 UTC
Just change the algo... FPGA's have been around for a long time..., weird how the dero network was decentralized until asics. Also I have 100+ Mpbs… Not too long ago the Captain said he had the code to create an algo that will switch to over 100 different algos… Either he lied or wants asic centralization.

There is no such algo really anti-asic,GPU and CPU are ASICs too. As long as there is profit,ASIC will come.
If you understand this tech truth,you should not persist to something called anti-asic.Besides dero,many coin even hardfork twice and back to ASIC friendly POW,take ETN and sumokoin for reference.While Dero just stayed at cryptonight and avoid one more hardfork.

The most dangerous thing for centralized mining is 51% attack,while Dero is immune from  51% attack,so even stay at CryptoNight won't impact the network security.


How is Dero immune to a 51% attack? Please explain to me, I don't understand how Dero is immune to this.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 19/07/2018, 02:53:24 UTC

Just change the algo... FPGA's have been around for a long time..., weird how the dero network was decentralized until asics. Also I have 100+ Mpbs… Not too long ago the Captain said he had the code to create an algo that will switch to over 100 different algos… Either he lied or wants asic centralization.

Doing a fork every week isn't viable long term solution, it will cost too much maintenance time. You have 100+ Mbps nice for you, unless you wanna bring crypto only for the 1%, I don't get your point. Once again that was before the announcement of the IoT network support. (IoT rely on fast cpu with fast memory cache and very low ram usage, so why CryptoNight was a perfect choice like PoW in first place)

Because of IoT support you can't use ProgPoW or Etash because it need a huge size of memory. How many coffee machine, do you think exist with just with more than one hundred MB of memory ? If you wanna figth Asic and FPGA you need some deterministic and Polymorphic PoW to avoid tons of useless fork.

The future will be in IoT (all the electronic industry destined for consumers is going toward it) and probably the current technology of miners will disappear replaced by some Inel/AMD/ARM chipset on motherboards, why do you think Captain still keep traveling to professional conference ?  (Dero is intended to be more adopted than current Bitcoin, if you can't see it, you are blind.)

Why would you fork every week... No one said that. The captain claimed to have a polymorphic algo ready... apparently it wasn't true.

"IoT rely on fast cpu with fast memory cache and very low ram usage, so why CryptoNight was a perfect choice like PoW in first place"
Why wouldn't they use cryptonight light then? My smart watch and keurig are really nice... they can handle it, we can assume IoT devices will be advancing in tech as well...

Never heard of the Captain going to more than one conference... Where did you get this from? I have been here 8 months...

"(Dero is intended to be more adopted than current Bitcoin, if you can't see it, you are blind.)"
Come on dude, don't be delusional. I can't take you serious when you talk like that.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 18/07/2018, 23:19:11 UTC
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people are blind, let it go, move on. Let people fuck themselves over. Anyone that is holding is going to hold because they don't understand blockchain or crypto. They blindly trust a man they don't know, a man that has lied multiple times. A man that does not come out to refute anything because he cant. The people you are arguing with have no valid points. They blindly follow this project and say they have complete trust in the Captain and the tech. The captain they have rarely talked to, yet alone met, and tech they haven't seen... I checked the source code of what is available. It's nothing I've never seen done. Nano's code is far more impressive.  Let them lose their holdings... You already did your part. Dero will become obsolete because Nix Platform will make this tech useless so it doesn't matter if it is a scam or not anymore.

Can you provide more details about how you think the code?

He talk probably about what is on github publicly available, the port of cryptonote. (An early version of Dero V1)

This guy is a joke he compare CryptoNote protocol to Nano, Blokchain tech to a DAG tech... Apple to Banana.

Captain is a technical guy so he doesn't care about hype or price to the moon, so if price goes up or go down it's the same thing... and for now DERO isn't ready (We are still in alpha stage with no use case for now), Serena tried to push some marketing through twitter and now you see the result.

Keep in mind : this project hadn't any ICO and DERO IS STILL AN EXPERIMENTATION.

My thoughts exactly.  I had a laugh when i saw this reply too lol.  I was about to write something similar, how on earth do you go around saying "i've checked your oranges, nano's apples are way more impressive"... Also the comparison to Nix is a poor one, at best.  I agree also that Dero is still experimental, there is so much work left to be done still.  Let's see what the code looks like so far when it's out.

DM me so I can show you how much it costs you every time you get emotional in crypto assets. Nano is Dag, Dero isn't hard to transcribe, claimed to be DAG... Nix can make any coin/blockchain private through its Ghost protocol, with one of its developers holding 10+ blockchain patents. Research InterValue so you can see real blockchain tech. Wake up!!! Get with it or GTFO! The captain claimed 80% of the code is out. Not my words, his.... I understand many HODLRS are holding a good amount of Dero but we are in a bull run, structured by tomorrows Security hearing emphasized by the future of security tokens followed by a proposed ETF, furthermore Coinbase is allowed to list securtity tokens, this will allow for mass adoption in the US. I wish you all moon Lambos and financial success, but you have to wake up... I read this forum and there are no refutes by the captain or the community. He might be so confident in his code that he doesn't care about your investments. If the price drops he doesn't care, if the premine is locked.... he doesn't he care? All that matters is his code(this is looking at DERO blindly the way you people decide to look at it). I reviewed it and its nothing to FOMO about, it's not DAG, its not new, it's not revolutionary. The project Ternio can reach over 1k tps no problem and it's code it shit.... and you people are getting hard over 75tps... from a person you have never met, a person that doesn't care to speak on your behalf, A person you don't know, someone you choose to follow based on buzz words... someone that won't refute any accusations because somehow in your bubble you decided to conclude he is only about tech and isn't interested in anything else, then... good luck to you!... If this is what you want to be a part of, so be it. I wish you all major success. All I can say is don't be afraid to move on... Don't be afraid to ask questions. Wake up, be cautious... Projects need you, you don't need them. Crypto is on a global scale... WAKE UP!

The DAG code along with its supposed groundbreaking implementations is what's not open sourced yet, so obviously you haven't seen the DAG code and haven't reviewed anything of whats (supposedly) groundbreaking about Dero... lol   Nix may be a good project in its own right and interoperability is big, but it is a poor comparison with Dero, not the same type of project despite some things they share in common. The fact that you mentioned Ternio makes me chuckle, because their blockchain requires the use of another blockchain in order to settle transactions... trash.  Dero doing 75 tps on the native blockchain with the list of features and that it supposedly has implemented is remarkable and potentially game changing if real, and it also obviously can scale...   Don't really understand why you mentioned anything about the current market conditions or idiotic lambo comments as it has no relevance to this topic.

Everyone here knows there is a risk involved, nobody is blindly doing anything thinking there isn't any sort of risk and everything is perfect, the claims are huge and it could be flawed.  Time will tell as the source will be released in just a couple of days.


I don't think you know what Nix is doing... If you run ghost protocol on any blockchain it will make it private... You can make Ethereum private, Neo private, Hedera Hashgraph private, starkware private, Elrond Network private, Fetch Private... You get it? You can make anything private... 75 TPS for DAG is very low for a native blockchain...(I get it, it's experimental, as long as it works I guess.)

I mentioned the market conditions and idiotic lambos because the Dero community has shown to be niave…they only seem to believe in their truths, not facts laid out in front of them. Either they believe this project will make them rich, or they are waiting for a pump so they can dump the coins on some poor soul. Just read the last 20 pages of this thread. Absolutely 0 refutes. They just talk shit to anyone that has evidence of anything that puts the project in a bad place. They talk shit to anyone that is looking for answers. I get it, they have stakes in the project and don't want to see any facts that will ruin the project due to self interest. Why doesn't the captain say anything about the unlocked premine or the 3 minute blocktimes? These are huge concerns because no one knows who he is. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes of his time, and it would solve so many problems. I mean, it has been a few days...

If you have been in crypto a few days, you realize the most important thing of a project is the community. Crypto is a beautiful space and as early adopters we have the chance to be part of amazing ecosystems. Egalitarian projects with good fundamentals. If we do not look out for each other; we hand over the space to people who will manipulate it for their own benefit. We will not reach mass adoption if we cannot back up our claims with substance. Dero is very far behind in this and this community reminds me of Forrest Gump being in love with Jenny. Research, do your homework, ask questions and analyze behavior.

Lastly, the thing that people here don't realize and obviously don't seem to care about is the asic centralization. The network is young, so many coins still need to be mined. The network was handed over to a few Asics and they are mining all the DERO. Wouldn't surprise me if the developers had a few. This project is so centralized that the volume will be manipulated for the rest of it's life.

75 TPS it's because you are limited by the bandwith from your ISP, the network is intended to work with a 2 Mbps bandwith, not a 12 Mbps.

Yes ASIC are the issue, so whats devs should do ? Stop it, abandon the IoT ecosystem and delay Dero until they found a Polymorphic PoW algorithm that even FPGA will never ever reverse  ? (Yeah, because FPGA centralization will be an another issue too, soon)

Just change the algo... FPGA's have been around for a long time..., weird how the dero network was decentralized until asics. Also I have 100+ Mpbs… Not too long ago the Captain said he had the code to create an algo that will switch to over 100 different algos… Either he lied or wants asic centralization.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 18/07/2018, 19:20:14 UTC
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people are blind, let it go, move on. Let people fuck themselves over. Anyone that is holding is going to hold because they don't understand blockchain or crypto. They blindly trust a man they don't know, a man that has lied multiple times. A man that does not come out to refute anything because he cant. The people you are arguing with have no valid points. They blindly follow this project and say they have complete trust in the Captain and the tech. The captain they have rarely talked to, yet alone met, and tech they haven't seen... I checked the source code of what is available. It's nothing I've never seen done. Nano's code is far more impressive.  Let them lose their holdings... You already did your part. Dero will become obsolete because Nix Platform will make this tech useless so it doesn't matter if it is a scam or not anymore.

Can you provide more details about how you think the code?

He talk probably about what is on github publicly available, the port of cryptonote. (An early version of Dero V1)

This guy is a joke he compare CryptoNote protocol to Nano, Blokchain tech to a DAG tech... Apple to Banana.

Captain is a technical guy so he doesn't care about hype or price to the moon, so if price goes up or go down it's the same thing... and for now DERO isn't ready (We are still in alpha stage with no use case for now), Serena tried to push some marketing through twitter and now you see the result.

Keep in mind : this project hadn't any ICO and DERO IS STILL AN EXPERIMENTATION.

My thoughts exactly.  I had a laugh when i saw this reply too lol.  I was about to write something similar, how on earth do you go around saying "i've checked your oranges, nano's apples are way more impressive"... Also the comparison to Nix is a poor one, at best.  I agree also that Dero is still experimental, there is so much work left to be done still.  Let's see what the code looks like so far when it's out.

DM me so I can show you how much it costs you every time you get emotional in crypto assets. Nano is Dag, Dero isn't hard to transcribe, claimed to be DAG... Nix can make any coin/blockchain private through its Ghost protocol, with one of its developers holding 10+ blockchain patents. Research InterValue so you can see real blockchain tech. Wake up!!! Get with it or GTFO! The captain claimed 80% of the code is out. Not my words, his.... I understand many HODLRS are holding a good amount of Dero but we are in a bull run, structured by tomorrows Security hearing emphasized by the future of security tokens followed by a proposed ETF, furthermore Coinbase is allowed to list securtity tokens, this will allow for mass adoption in the US. I wish you all moon Lambos and financial success, but you have to wake up... I read this forum and there are no refutes by the captain or the community. He might be so confident in his code that he doesn't care about your investments. If the price drops he doesn't care, if the premine is locked.... he doesn't he care? All that matters is his code(this is looking at DERO blindly the way you people decide to look at it). I reviewed it and its nothing to FOMO about, it's not DAG, its not new, it's not revolutionary. The project Ternio can reach over 1k tps no problem and it's code it shit.... and you people are getting hard over 75tps... from a person you have never met, a person that doesn't care to speak on your behalf, A person you don't know, someone you choose to follow based on buzz words... someone that won't refute any accusations because somehow in your bubble you decided to conclude he is only about tech and isn't interested in anything else, then... good luck to you!... If this is what you want to be a part of, so be it. I wish you all major success. All I can say is don't be afraid to move on... Don't be afraid to ask questions. Wake up, be cautious... Projects need you, you don't need them. Crypto is on a global scale... WAKE UP!

The DAG code along with its supposed groundbreaking implementations is what's not open sourced yet, so obviously you haven't seen the DAG code and haven't reviewed anything of whats (supposedly) groundbreaking about Dero... lol   Nix may be a good project in its own right and interoperability is big, but it is a poor comparison with Dero, not the same type of project despite some things they share in common. The fact that you mentioned Ternio makes me chuckle, because their blockchain requires the use of another blockchain in order to settle transactions... trash.  Dero doing 75 tps on the native blockchain with the list of features and that it supposedly has implemented is remarkable and potentially game changing if real, and it also obviously can scale...   Don't really understand why you mentioned anything about the current market conditions or idiotic lambo comments as it has no relevance to this topic.

Everyone here knows there is a risk involved, nobody is blindly doing anything thinking there isn't any sort of risk and everything is perfect, the claims are huge and it could be flawed.  Time will tell as the source will be released in just a couple of days.


I don't think you know what Nix is doing... If you run ghost protocol on any blockchain it will make it private... You can make Ethereum private, Neo private, Hedera Hashgraph private, starkware private, Elrond Network private, Fetch Private... You get it? You can make anything private... 75 TPS for DAG is very low for a native blockchain...(I get it, it's experimental, as long as it works I guess.)

I mentioned the market conditions and idiotic lambos because the Dero community has shown to be niave…they only seem to believe in their truths, not facts laid out in front of them. Either they believe this project will make them rich, or they are waiting for a pump so they can dump the coins on some poor soul. Just read the last 20 pages of this thread. Absolutely 0 refutes. They just talk shit to anyone that has evidence of anything that puts the project in a bad place. They talk shit to anyone that is looking for answers. I get it, they have stakes in the project and don't want to see any facts that will ruin the project due to self interest. Why doesn't the captain say anything about the unlocked premine or the 3 minute blocktimes? These are huge concerns because no one knows who he is. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes of his time, and it would solve so many problems. I mean, it has been a few days...

If you have been in crypto a few days, you realize the most important thing of a project is the community. Crypto is a beautiful space and as early adopters we have the chance to be part of amazing ecosystems. Egalitarian projects with good fundamentals. If we do not look out for each other; we hand over the space to people who will manipulate it for their own benefit. We will not reach mass adoption if we cannot back up our claims with substance. Dero is very far behind in this and this community reminds me of Forrest Gump being in love with Jenny. Research, do your homework, ask questions and analyze behavior.

Lastly, the thing that people here don't realize and obviously don't seem to care about is the asic centralization. The network is young, so many coins still need to be mined. The network was handed over to a few Asics and they are mining all the DERO. Wouldn't surprise me if the developers had a few. This project is so centralized that the volume will be manipulated for the rest of it's life.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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on 18/07/2018, 06:14:51 UTC
I just want to say, DERO is not a scam, it is a real project... The code is real and it is okay. It isn't anything new, its just transcribed, I am sure the turtle coin dev will be honest. Good luck to this community and I urge you all to seriously think about doing proper research and asking questions. You deserve answers... Feel free to send me a message for anything... I will be happy to help.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 18/07/2018, 06:04:35 UTC
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people are blind, let it go, move on. Let people fuck themselves over. Anyone that is holding is going to hold because they don't understand blockchain or crypto. They blindly trust a man they don't know, a man that has lied multiple times. A man that does not come out to refute anything because he cant. The people you are arguing with have no valid points. They blindly follow this project and say they have complete trust in the Captain and the tech. The captain they have rarely talked to, yet alone met, and tech they haven't seen... I checked the source code of what is available. It's nothing I've never seen done. Nano's code is far more impressive.  Let them lose their holdings... You already did your part. Dero will become obsolete because Nix Platform will make this tech useless so it doesn't matter if it is a scam or not anymore.

Can you provide more details about how you think the code?

He talk probably about what is on github publicly available, the port of cryptonote. (An early version of Dero V1)

This guy is a joke he compare CryptoNote protocol to Nano, Blokchain tech to a DAG tech... Apple to Banana.

Captain is a technical guy so he doesn't care about hype or price to the moon, so if price goes up or go down it's the same thing... and for now DERO isn't ready (We are still in alpha stage with no use case for now), Serena tried to push some marketing through twitter and now you see the result.

Keep in mind : this project hadn't any ICO and DERO IS STILL AN EXPERIMENTATION.

My thoughts exactly.  I had a laugh when i saw this reply too lol.  I was about to write something similar, how on earth do you go around saying "i've checked your oranges, nano's apples are way more impressive"... Also the comparison to Nix is a poor one, at best.  I agree also that Dero is still experimental, there is so much work left to be done still.  Let's see what the code looks like so far when it's out.

DM me so I can show you how much it costs you every time you get emotional in crypto assets. Nano is Dag, Dero isn't hard to transcribe, claimed to be DAG... Nix can make any coin/blockchain private through its Ghost protocol, with one of its developers holding 10+ blockchain patents. Research InterValue so you can see real blockchain tech. Wake up!!! Get with it or GTFO! The captain claimed 80% of the code is out. Not my words, his.... I understand many HODLRS are holding a good amount of Dero but we are in a bull run, structured by tomorrows Security hearing emphasized by the future of security tokens followed by a proposed ETF, furthermore Coinbase is allowed to list securtity tokens, this will allow for mass adoption in the US. I wish you all moon Lambos and financial success, but you have to wake up... I read this forum and there are no refutes by the captain or the community. He might be so confident in his code that he doesn't care about your investments. If the price drops he doesn't care, if the premine is locked.... he doesn't he care? All that matters is his code(this is looking at DERO blindly the way you people decide to look at it). I reviewed it and its nothing to FOMO about, it's not DAG, its not new, it's not revolutionary. The project Ternio can reach over 1k tps no problem and it's code it shit.... and you people are getting hard over 75tps... from a person you have never met, a person that doesn't care to speak on your behalf, A person you don't know, someone you choose to follow based on buzz words... someone that won't refute any accusations because somehow in your bubble you decided to conclude he is only about tech and isn't interested in anything else, then... good luck to you!... If this is what you want to be a part of, so be it. I wish you all major success. All I can say is don't be afraid to move on... Don't be afraid to ask questions. Wake up, be cautious... Projects need you, you don't need them. Crypto is on a global scale... WAKE UP!
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 17/07/2018, 02:57:40 UTC
Captain your patience is amazing. You never spoke a single negative word against this two self-proclaimed morons on any channel.
He made up multiple lies about our goals, and intentions which we verified were lies by him. A good example is him lying by saying we asked for part of the dero foundation, which is clearly not true based on the screenshots I provided. When he saw he was caught lying, he completely acted as though it had never happened. So, I wonder, how is slander appropriate when we've been able to prove everything we've said? Slander is false statements, like Captain's, our statements however have all been backed up with proof.
Only true professional can demonstrate such behavior and keep calm.
Discord users enjoyed the show how serena was literally begging community to take her back to the same community she used to ban and hate for no reason.
Why don't you ask Fishbulb why he got banned within a few minutes of Captain being online for politely voicing his opinion. This opinion whether right or wrong was in support of us at a time when Captain was clearly carrying on with his extremely and still ongoing deceptive behavior with the community.
serena is the same person who used to spread hatred on 4chan. She was back stabbing dero since beginning.
4chan comes up all the time when you're using index crawlers to find recent chats, but no, I don't spend any time on 4chan posting. I do learn some... interesting new words when I read the comments, and it gives me an idea what people might say when they feel comfortable to do so anonymously and away from the official social channels of dero.






people are blind, let it go, move on. Let people fuck themselves over. Anyone that is holding is going to hold because they don't understand blockchain or crypto. They blindly trust a man they don't know, a man that has lied multiple times. A man that does not come out to refute anything because he cant. The people you are arguing with have no valid points. They blindly follow this project and say they have complete trust in the Captain and the tech. The captain they have rarely talked to, yet alone met, and tech they haven't seen... I checked the source code of what is available. It's nothing I've never seen done. Nano's code is far more impressive.  Let them lose their holdings... You already did your part. Dero will become obsolete because Nix Platform will make this tech useless so it doesn't matter if it is a scam or not anymore.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 16/07/2018, 00:32:37 UTC
Please read back, and check all screenshots in https://medium.com/@mojo_lb/to-whom-captain-deros-lead-developer-feels-it-does-not-concern-6df0a9ca692a

Our actions were directly against our "finacial benefit" as you put it, we both lost money by acting as captain requested back then...

I'm really not interested in the mud-slinging and he said/she said bullshit, but I do have one pertinent question: did you and/or Serena dump your DERO before publishing that article on Medium?

Bro the price dumped when Atlantis went from a custom anti asic algo to asic friendly one from 3 second block times to 9 second block times to 12 second block times from 500 tps to 75 tps avg 50 tps. To blame the price dump on them is ridiculous. It went from 79c-83c to 40c for a few minutes back up to 60-70c. This recent drama has barely affected the price. The damage was done when the community was lied to for months, over hyped, under delivered, had a bunch of people working on testnet preparing for a cpu minable dero network when they knew they had no intentions of moving from cryptonight asics.

Its also obvious sock puppet cheerleader accounts are being used to gas light the community while Captn repeatedly ignores criticism and responds with vague answer to virtually every question he even bothers to acknowledge.

This and much more, the only reason people are trying to defend Dero is because of self interest. Hard to accept truth and loss when you have invested so much time and money into it. When you think it might make you rich.They would rather lose it all than be wrong. Let them, maybe they will learn a thing or two.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 15/07/2018, 04:34:17 UTC
SERENA and Mojo

i have lost a considerable   amount of  money because of both of you (please stop for others)

your hurting innocent people , i cant take this pressure anymore

im about to hurt myslef, this will be my last post

i want to tell my family that i love them and im sorry

bye all

WAAIIIIT! What's your private key?!
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 15/07/2018, 04:25:41 UTC
I think what's going on here is a tragedy. The first step to fixing this would be to post nudes.

Up vote if you believe.

We can start a Dero for Nudes campaign!
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 15/07/2018, 04:23:58 UTC
I think what's going on here is a tragedy. The first step to fixing this would be to post nudes.

Up vote if you believe.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 15/07/2018, 02:25:52 UTC
All is fine DERO community mods(Serena and Mojo) tried their best to damage and create panic nothing more. There is nothing to fear/worry, dont fall into any FUDs. I myself joined discord two days back after several complains of Serena and Mojo. DERO telegram is still operated by Mojo. I trusted them to create/operate discord and telegram community as we were naturally focussed on development. Everything is on track and nothing to worry

Oh quit it, you released your excel sheet comparing DERO to Monero and specifically said "Let's get trolled". You caused these issues, and we all agreed collectively to just deal with it your way at the time. You're the source of your own problems here, and the team's problems.

You only joined Discord 2 days ago because I gave ownership of the Discord to your friend TeslaR.

Regarding accusations of wanting any part of the DERO Foundation which are further unfounded lies that Captain is desperately clinging to - http://i64.tinypic.com/24cslkm.png

Captain couldn't even afford to pay me my full first month's wage so I volunteered for free simply because the DERO project is more or less broke without the premine. Even Mojo's most recent wage ($300/month) came up short at $230 and 12 days late

It's a shame to see him opening the premine and not even offering to pay those working on his team for months properly. Instead he would rather give it to someone like John McAfee..... Angry

So I have been lurking for a very long time and would like to know if this synopsis is correct.

Capt is now also going back on his word about the premine and is looking to dump it after paying Mcafee for a Pump? Also he had the emissions set incorrectly in his closed source code and was keeping it away from the community and when it was mentioned he just ignored it?

I have to say that this project is looking like it needs to Be put into the SCAM ACCUSATIONS thread right now before He pulls a P&D and destroys whats left of the community's value.


ADDED
: can someone make a list of the verifiable lies, such as not opening the source...



Don't know why are you so interested in believing that info. You know that premine is fully intact as of your writing. DERO Foundation will setup in coming days and devs/members would be there.
After Foundation setup in max 2-3 weeks, Hope you can say all that above you wrote directly to devs in person. We can plan out some meeting if you feel in some third country.
DERO developers has enough credentials on internet lying for decades, hope you can verify those also after foundation setup.
We haven't even started guys, RELAX.
Let me know if anything is not clear or still any doubts, pls feel free for any more queries.

So you are Russian? You are speaking in Russian English.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 14/07/2018, 22:36:32 UTC
On attack dogs and sock puppets.

Need I say more?

Dero will not only be the project with privacy with smart contracts, but will vie among the best. Lets not forget why we are here. We are investors looking for good projects. All of the projects which will vie for this business are still coding the final product. You decide which one will be a winner, and probably be more than one. I picked Dero. You can decide on Dero or other projects. Happy investing!

Why do you believe this? Why do you think Dero will be a winner?
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Edwinc08
on 14/07/2018, 21:55:15 UTC
Such storytelling! As usual reality is a bit mundane and so the writers need to add a bit of pizzazz to the subject like in a mini-series on HBO. Add a touch of sex, a bit of back-stabbing, some random violence and you have a hit series. And then there's the profits. That is why you are here. The Dero platform is about business in the real sense, not the price of the coin at this moment, or the drama queens, but what will be when the business revenue starts rolling in. Why anyone without a Dero comes here to blather about is beyond me. You must have a life outside of the boards. Or do you?

Every good rumor has a hint of truth. Play on that, embellish, then add mustard and ketchup to taste. You have a something to say. A a great amount of time spent on creating this line of "new" truth. I suppose if you don't have a life beyond this, then this is your real life, I hope we can empathize with you. It must be tough to be you. And that is sad.

But we are not talking about you, but talking about Dero. Believe in the project and you will be rewarded. You vote with your dollars. There are plenty of other coins, and many are great projects. I, myself, believe in Dero. I think you should be patient and let the drama die a bit. You will be rewarded.

you have one activity, new account..., drama is not going away because of the infrastructure of the lead developer. You believe in a project full of inconsistency and deceit? Good luck in crypto. Ill be around to take your money Smiley - think about this, Captain Dero has not rebottled a single thing Mojo and Serena have stated... That speaks volumes. Be smart my new delusional noobie crypto buddy.
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Edwinc08
on 14/07/2018, 21:33:56 UTC
hahahahaha omg, this is hilarious!!! I urge everyone supporting this project to stick to your core beliefs. Stick to your core beliefs and crypto will smile upon you. Support transparent projects with good values, not ran by manipulation. Serena and Mojo finally couldn't handle it, I wish Serena a happy career, I admire her tact(very manipulative to turn things around but still a talent). Read the AMA with CapDero on reddit, all the answers are vague. The Dero whitepaper could of been written by a kid in high school, but most importantly, CapDero should of revealed his identity right away to show how invested he is in the project. This gives reassurance that he isn't going anywhere. Instead we have him hide away another month, for another month of uncertainty with an unlocked premine. For those of you who do not know, good exchanges require a certain level of transparency, something Dero is far far away from. No good project hires Mcafee either, just go through his twitter. What is to stop CapDero from hiring Mcafee and causing a pump and dump to get rid of his Dero and abandon the project? He should reveal his identity and address all these problems on video ASAP, not a month from now, and cut the premine to 6%, I am sure he knows why it should be 6%... Explain asic centralization to your community without the "security" excuse because I don't think anyone with a regular IQ will ever follow a project that preaches decentralization while mined with asics. Maybe CapDero is just a regular guy that really doesn't know how to handle a company, which would suck for him and all his time invested because it doesn't look too good for Dero right now. Maybe hes learning, which hopefully he is. I know most developers are not that good with people and find it hard understanding sociology. I love crypto and what it was created for, what it stands for, and how it will change the world but projects that lie to the community over and over again will never get anywhere because it shows that; either, they don't know what they are doing and communication is horrible; or they are deceiving the community on purpose. Either way, not good, reminds me of certain entities crypto stands against. If you are serious about your project and have every intent of saving it from this disaster you will reveal yourself ASAP. It is in the communities best interest for you to reveal yourself now. People are losing money and you have to establish trust and reassurance for Dero to survive.

That shit about John was something like one day after the reveal that McAfee took money to support ICOs, we were all on slack late in the night joking with Captain about it.

Same thing about lock pre-mine we knew since Dero was announced that Atlantis will not lock the premine before a while so it wasn't a big deal, everyone who read slack intensively knew about it.

Things are just out of context, look like a dick move from Serena, nothing else.


Don't be naïve. You have been here a long time. Just look at the AMA, responses are very lazy. Would you invest thousands of dollars after reading those answers, if so, buy it up right now... Dero has been around for 8 months, yet they have nothing to show for it. Talked bad about turtle coins code, yet Rocksteady is reviewing Dero's code...(Rocksteady is the founder of Turtle Coin btw...) lmao. BTW, strait from the whitepaper, I assume you didn't read it.....>>>>>>>>>>>
                                                                       Total premine 2 million DERO
                                                                     First 1 million locked for 4 years.
                 Second 0.5 million reserved for various activities. Unlocked at 10%, 20%, 30%, 40% respectively in years 1-4.
                         Third 0.5 million for development. Unlocked at 20%, 20%, 30%, 30% respectively in years 1-4.

Most of the people that are holding Dero are delusional or have no idea how to do proper research.
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Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts
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Edwinc08
on 14/07/2018, 19:43:44 UTC
hahahahaha omg, this is hilarious!!! I urge everyone supporting this project to stick to your core beliefs. Stick to your core beliefs and crypto will smile upon you. Support transparent projects with good values, not ran by manipulation. Serena and Mojo finally couldn't handle it, I wish Serena a happy career, I admire her tact(very manipulative to turn things around but still a talent). Read the AMA with CapDero on reddit, all the answers are vague. The Dero whitepaper could of been written by a kid in high school, but most importantly, CapDero should of revealed his identity right away to show how invested he is in the project. This gives reassurance that he isn't going anywhere. Instead we have him hide away another month, for another month of uncertainty with an unlocked premine. For those of you who do not know, good exchanges require a certain level of transparency, something Dero is far far away from. No good project hires Mcafee either, just go through his twitter. What is to stop CapDero from hiring Mcafee and causing a pump and dump to get rid of his Dero and abandon the project? He should reveal his identity and address all these problems on video ASAP, not a month from now, and cut the premine to 6%, I am sure he knows why it should be 6%... Explain asic centralization to your community without the "security" excuse because I don't think anyone with a regular IQ will ever follow a project that preaches decentralization while mined with asics. Maybe CapDero is just a regular guy that really doesn't know how to handle a company, which would suck for him and all his time invested because it doesn't look too good for Dero right now. Maybe hes learning, which hopefully he is. I know most developers are not that good with people and find it hard understanding sociology. I love crypto and what it was created for, what it stands for, and how it will change the world but projects that lie to the community over and over again will never get anywhere because it shows that; either, they don't know what they are doing and communication is horrible; or they are deceiving the community on purpose. Either way, not good, reminds me of certain entities crypto stands against. If you are serious about your project and have every intent of saving it from this disaster you will reveal yourself ASAP. It is in the communities best interest for you to reveal yourself now. People are losing money and you have to establish trust and reassurance for Dero to survive.