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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 28/04/2014, 01:22:50 UTC
Simon's blog is rediculous. He said that player's were owed $5,000,000 and that Coinbet's starting capital was $30,000. You should disregard everything that Simon posts.


possibly.  but in this particular instance he posted screen shots of his email conversation with paul regan.

That seems like typical coinbet though: Hire unsuspecting employees who need money and use their real names and have them tow the line without knowing about the scam or the end game, or steal peoples identities themselves and run with them.

I still think vince and john are your best leads, though some of the info you sent me privately kinda looks good as well. Hard to say what is what at this point though.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 22/04/2014, 03:32:50 UTC
can add me to the list. paul stiffed me for close to 75k.  he did pay me 20k early on and i convinced myself to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt, but alas:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2uh8k83.jpg

damn...seriously you got 20k? sounds like youre the lucky man here. what did you invest to get that 20k? just curious
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 22/04/2014, 01:55:16 UTC
If you follow the two clues (the email adress ---> google it and then check the document it leads to,  and if you check their backlink profile) you can find all sorts of things. If you are serious and you have a lot of free time (which I don'T) so I'm out I've got a company to run in the morning but it was cool. Reminded me of the Cicada 3301 hunt a little, of course that shit is 1000x harder.

I have no idea what youre talking about with cicadas and shit, sorry.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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on 22/04/2014, 01:46:09 UTC
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Spam isnt my forte. To be honest i didnt realize black hat shit even worked still, i'm not even convinced it does. If they paid someone to go blackhat for them, i'm sure they got ripped off themselves which serves them right.

It doesn't, but still people try. There is always 5% to get to the top for a few months, weeks, then inevitable Google penalty/ban.

This is you right? Or just a client. It must be you, you are from India Smiley and you say "SPAM isn't my forte" funny Indians are professional spammers.
 
https://plus.google.com/+ganpatiindustriesSEOFreelancer/posts
http://ganpati-industries.com/ (very ugly website you have there...)
https://www.facebook.com/WebDesign.SEOCompany

LOL nope thats not me, but did coinbet seriously hire them? if so im gonna LOL my ass off.. i quit working with them quite a while ago due to unpaid invoices but wow im pretty impressed that "ganpati" could convince them to hire them.

They did: http://www.peargaming.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=439 look at "Homepage" here and then the "signature links". They hired this extremely spammy Indian company. They were clearly not in it from the long-term from day one.

well thats just flat out hilarious. black hat seo will get you no where. normallly id say i hope they didnt pay much but shit, this doesnt count.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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on 22/04/2014, 01:37:40 UTC
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Spam isnt my forte. To be honest i didnt realize black hat shit even worked still, i'm not even convinced it does. If they paid someone to go blackhat for them, i'm sure they got ripped off themselves which serves them right.

It doesn't, but still people try. There is always 5% to get to the top for a few months, weeks, then inevitable Google penalty/ban.

This is you right? Or just a client. It must be you, you are from India Smiley and you say "SPAM isn't my forte" funny Indians are professional spammers.
 
https://plus.google.com/+ganpatiindustriesSEOFreelancer/posts
http://ganpati-industries.com/ (very ugly website you have there...)
https://www.facebook.com/WebDesign.SEOCompany

LOL nope thats not me, but did coinbet seriously hire them? if so im gonna LOL my ass off.. i quit working with them quite a while ago due to unpaid invoices but wow im pretty impressed that "ganpati" could convince them to hire them.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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on 22/04/2014, 01:28:22 UTC
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It's possible but just because the main guy in NY has an italian name doesnt mean thats where the trail leads. i guess its possible though. I dont know the guy personally, he just issued a payment to me, so i really can't say for sure, but i try not to subscripe to stereotypes.

Firs of all the guy issued multiple payments to you and there was another one too, who paid you. Let's not forget that.

Were you the forum link builder (spammer) black-hat SEO guy they hired, right? It figures.
How much did you charge them btw? I nearly ended up working for them, although I'm not a black hatter I'm kinda curious what's the going price for forum signature link spam nowadays. I checked the linkportfolio (btw. you might have used your own email address at some of the forum profiles, Smiley so much for anonymity).
The ambulance chaser may be on to something that I didn't know.

Spam isnt my forte. To be honest i didnt realize black hat shit even worked still, i'm not even convinced it does. If they paid someone to go blackhat for them, i'm sure they got ripped off themselves which serves them right.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 22/04/2014, 00:41:19 UTC
Interesting. So now we know coinbet.cc has ties with the Italian mafia? But I still can't help but wonder... is this a diversion ploy?

lets not jump to conclusions here, i dont think that's what has been proven at this point.

Hey, you guys started it talkin' bout Italians, the 'M' word and New York. What the hell is a girl supposed to think? Tongue

It's possible but just because the main guy in NY has an italian name doesnt mean thats where the trail leads. i guess its possible though. I dont know the guy personally, he just issued a payment to me, so i really can't say for sure, but i try not to subscripe to stereotypes.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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on 22/04/2014, 00:34:41 UTC
Interesting. So now we know coinbet.cc has ties with the Italian mafia? But I still can't help but wonder... is this a diversion ploy?

lets not jump to conclusions here, i dont think that's what has been proven at this point.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 21/04/2014, 23:49:38 UTC
Dick Tracy is out. Simon the ambulance chaser is lost. FormerCB is the interesting one to watch.

Just dont say the "M" word. It doesnt exist.
You've never been to New York.

Oh i have. that was the point of my joke, except it's not so funny.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 21/04/2014, 23:42:24 UTC
Dick Tracy is out. Simon the ambulance chaser is lost. FormerCB is the interesting one to watch.

Just dont say the "M" word. It doesnt exist.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 21/04/2014, 23:35:45 UTC
im all for chasing people down, just be careful when it comes to Brooklyn NY, NYC, etc , make sure you know who you are dealing with first..



No mailbox no office no coin bet at 101 just a marketing scheme , my attorneys in that building

Found an address. Not sure how reliable it is http://www.golocal247.com/app.php/biz/coinbet-online-casino-sportsbook/new-york-ny/YEXT194003

101 Park Ave S,
New York, NY 10178

These scammers surely never ever lived at park avenue  Wink Probably it is just some mailbox address.
You should find out who rents those mailboxes and give them a call.

Actually I think the vincent digiovanna guy might work in that building... someone may want to chase that one down. I think he's the US/NY connection here. Can your attorney find out?

Address belongs to 50 story office building. Might not be a fruitless adventure...  
http://www.101park.com/availabilities.html

Especially when it comes to italians.. but its still info that might help
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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on 21/04/2014, 22:48:56 UTC
No mailbox no office no coin bet at 101 just a marketing scheme , my attorneys in that building



Found an address. Not sure how reliable it is http://www.golocal247.com/app.php/biz/coinbet-online-casino-sportsbook/new-york-ny/YEXT194003

101 Park Ave S,
New York, NY 10178

These scammers surely never ever lived at park avenue  Wink Probably it is just some mailbox address.
You should find out who rents those mailboxes and give them a call.

Actually I think the vincent digiovanna guy might work in that building... someone may want to chase that one down. I think he's the US/NY connection here. Can your attorney find out?
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 21/04/2014, 22:23:16 UTC
I found the western union receipts from payments coinbet sent me...

The senders are Vincent Di Giovanna - Brooklyn, NY with ph# of 212-480-2900

and John Bauer - Panama City, Panama with ph# of 855-600-2646

Im sure these are real identities because western union requires ID to send anything over $1k

If anyone has any info they can share with me, please PM. I'm willing to file a suit for the money they owe me even if it gets me nowhere.

I'll also post any info if youre scared to post yourself if you PM it to me.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 21/04/2014, 18:57:45 UTC
Well , these are all digital footprints you have here.
I talked with the guy on the phone and he introduced himself as Paul (I still have his number) and if someone constantly lies about his name it shows in a phone conversation. Either he is a very convincing, experienced liar or he is really called Paul. At the very least he is a shareholder. (also he is dick with a big ego and he is not very bright)

Can you share phone numbers? company names or private email addresses of these people online without reprecussion ? I could really help I'm just afraid of getting sued.

Im trying to find the western union receipts with the vince guy's last name on it. i think it also has phone and other info and ill definitely post when i find it.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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FormerCB
on 21/04/2014, 18:47:13 UTC
wow this thread really blew up since i last looked 15 pages

Same here but it is hard to get back up to date, someone cares to resume what happened?
Dick Tracy and crew have gotten IPs of emails that were sent by coinbet. They didn't realize that coinbet has multiple locations in the US and that they also may have used VPN since one location they have makes no sense. They have emails with customer service reps. I had to fill them in and tell them they don't want customer service reps. They want John Bauer.

@boumalo @notserps The most important thing is to ignore whatever Jaybird says. He is an extremely suspicious individual (irrational and a dick too!). He might be in the sack with Coinbet.cc or a drunk troll. There is also Paul Regan and Michael Carter beside this John Bauer (altough I don't know whether John Bauer exists or not, I have never spoken or emailed that guy unlike the others). Jbird seems to intentionally disrupt and mislead everyone periodically for yet undetermined reasons.

"They didn't realize that coinbet has multiple locations in the US and that they also may have used VPN since one location they have makes no sense."

no it's just one guy and a website and few others helping him like most bitcoin startups, no multiple locations, that was all a lie perpetuated by them

"They have emails with customer service reps."

Yes , "the customer service representative" guy Paul is actually one of the founders, it was a really small scale operation, everybody had to fill many shoes, many roles



I dont know if thats exactly true about paul. I think these guys used names of other people in the business or other companies so they could seem legit, because youd be talking to one person with a different name, but when they would send payments it would always come from one of the two: vince or john, and western union requires ID to send money over 1000 so I am sure those two names are legit. the rest are probably fakes or names they lifted from somewhere.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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on 21/04/2014, 18:26:02 UTC
wow this thread really blew up since i last looked 15 pages

Same here but it is hard to get back up to date, someone cares to resume what happened?
Dick Tracy and crew have gotten IPs of emails that were sent by coinbet. They didn't realize that coinbet has multiple locations in the US and that they also may have used VPN since one location they have makes no sense. They have emails with customer service reps. I had to fill them in and tell them they don't want customer service reps. They want John Bauer.

I don't think they have multiple locations I think they use $5/hr virtual assistants to handle their emails.

I did some contract work for coinbet when they were first starting out and they still owe me a lot of money. When i was doing work for them they used clueless virtual reps to catalog and reply to emails. The virtual reps would reply with the responses they got from higher ups and it was impossibe to ever know who u were really talking to.

They paid me a few times with western union and when they did, the payments came from a guy name vince who's last name i forget, who was in new york, and a guy named john bauer who was in panama city.

If anyone wants to share info on these guys, please PM me. I'd love to file a suit for the money im owed. I doubt ill recover it but its worth a shot.
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Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long]
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on 20/04/2014, 15:31:37 UTC
That list of sites all point to TSE

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That's because that's who coinbet licensed their software from. It's not related to coinbet.