Being patiently on the sideline and hoping that there is some progress at QORA now for months, I highly appreciate the suggestion of a community takeover.

Crowetic delivered quite some value for QORA and the community is deeply indebted to him. At the same time, it is evident that he lost interest in this project. Promising us four full time devs, he instead focused on other projects. Since months there is nearly zero development. I think it is time for a change and to get people in the drivers seat who are actually dedicated and devote some time. Do not get me wrong: if Crowetic is still dedicated to the project, I am more than happy to have him still leading. I just doubt that he is dedicated any longer.

We desperately need some minor changes in the wallet to get QORA listed again at an exchange. After that we can go on to all these great features we have in mind. But we should make this the second step.

To be more precise: No, we do not have to wait for "mapdb v3 to add features to move forward". We need to upgrade 1.0.5 to 1.0.9 and then get listed. That is it for this moment and should have been done months ago after polo delisting. Maybe Crowetic can do this or, instead, hand out all the information that the community can do this (I know there are people wanting to do this).

The only thing we all do not want to happen is to keep QORA at the current state of winter sleep forever. Everyone: please let us move forward!

I am still bidding at 3 Satoshi for any balance above 100 Million QORA.

@crowetic: thank you so much for bringing this project forward. I am sure this will be a great success story. QORA has amazing potential and large community base.


I fully agree. In today's crypto landscape a coin without a reasonable exchange is like non-existing. We need a good listing and I think bittrex is the place to go. I would suggest to await the upcoming fixes and then make a coordinated push to cinvince bittrex about how beneficial it will be to list QORA.

I am increasing my bid to 3 Satoshi per Quora for any balance of 50M or more. Only with trusted escrow. Please pm.

I am buying any balance above 50M for 2.5 Satoshi per QORA. Only with trusted escrow, of course. Please pm, if you are interested.

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Number of nodes are a function of many variables. One (important) variable is the token value.


I could not agree more. The main point is the technological innovation of the project. And this on its own will motivate a lot of people. Bringing in some money through secondary markets will give a little boost to motivation, food to motivated but unfunded people, and bring in new people. Money help reaching this amitious goal, it is thus an indirectly important for the project.

A perspective from an economist

Secondary markets like the current IOTA/BTC market are essential to the primary market of the ICO. If there was no secondary market, the primary market would struggle. Imagine an ICO where investors know they will later not be able to sell their shares.

This link between primary and secondary market is not binary -- linked or not linked -- but instead very gradual: the more liquid a secondary market (and/or the higher the price), the better for for the primary market. If you think of the ICO as the initial primary market and today's market as the secondary market: without the expectation of the market today at the time of the ICO, the initial ICO market would not have existed (are much less of it).

In the nex step, you can think of today's market as the primary market and tomorrow's market as the secondary market. The logic is the same: the more liquid we expect the future market to be, the better for today's market (--> higher price today). This link is present from today to the (infinite) future.

The main lesson here is: any investor at any time always adds value to a project. Investors play an essential role for crypto projects in general, invluding IOTA. Of course, the coding is much more important. But the code would never come to its full potetnial wthout investors. Investors provide the financial incentive for all the devs in a project. Granted, there are incentives at work other than the financial one. But the financial incentive is rather important: after all, people have to eat from time to time.

Investors and developers live in a symbiosis.

It happened by
(1) me being stupid
(2) me being even more stupid
(3) me being under stress becuase of hundred other tasks to do
(4) the lite client not giving any information on how the ICO import works (that could have saved me -- but, of course, I am responsible for my own error).

So here is what I did:
Trying to import my ICO I found this button "generate seed". I thought this meant something like "generate new wallet". But I wanted to import my already existing ICO account. So what did I do? I pasted the waves address in the box and generated my address, because I thought at that moment it would be my private unique address. Needless to say that this address is very much public information. In short: I just did not understand in that particular moment that "Seed=privatekey=ultimate password overriding everysthing elese" but isntead thought some ICO information from me is needed.  

--> The whole issue is not a problem for waves security but only for my sanity.

Yes, addresses are the same. I see an outgoing payment from today, though, and the balance in the vlient is now zero. The ICO page shows a "balance". But as I now understand it is not my balance but rather the initial amount of waves received.

So I got hacked and the funds were stolen. I had a bad feeling about using a chrome client in the first place. Should have listened to that feeling. Lesson learned.

Thanks for the quick reply. Just to make sure: The line "balance XXX Waves" on the ICO page does not indicate a balance but the amount I received initially and that is now not available anymore. Correct?

Yesterday, I imported my ICO account to the Chrome Client and waited for my Waves to come in. They did a couple of hours later. So far so good.

Today I noticed that the funds have been sent elswewhere. And the balance is now showing up again in my ICO account. What has happened here?

(1) Was I hacekd and my funds stolen?
(2) Or were the funds sent back to the ICO account for whatever reason?

If (2) is correct: Why was that the case? And when will the funds go back to my client address?

Botbetreiber haben jetzt einen Wettbewerbsvorteil. Dmait verschiebt sich das Handelsaufkommen von manuellen Tradern zu automatischen Tradern. Das hat verschiedene Konsequenzen:

(1) Botbetreiber erhöhen ihr Volumen und multiplizieren damit Ihr Tradingergebnis
(2) Manuelle Trader verringern ihr Volumen und damit Ihr Tradingergebnis
(3) Der Spread auf Bitcoin.de wird gering und es wird mehr getradet.
(4) Nicht-professionelle Trader (die von denen die professionellen Ihr Geld machen) bekommen einen faireren Preis; die Markteffizienz steigt.
(5) Bitcoin.de nimmt entweder mehr oder weniger Gebühren als vorher ein -- das hängt davon ab, ob der Volumeneffekt den Gebühreneffekt übersteigt oder nicht und ist damit eine Frage der Preiselastizität des Angebots, die nur empirische beantwortet werden kann.
(6) Bitcoin.de hat weniger Arbeit als zuvor, da automatische Trader weniger Support verursachen und zugleich etwas mehr Arbeit zuvor, da manuelle Trader weniger Einsteigerfragen beantworten. Der Nettoeffekt wird vermutlich bei weniger Arbeit liegen.

Ich trade ohne Bot und bin auf der Verliererseite. Aber so ist das eben im Wettbewerb: Verhältnisse ändern sich und man muss darauf reagieren. Trotz des Verliererdaseins bin ich daher nicht dafür den Fortschritt zurückzudrehen.

It is back to normal again now. But there were issues about half an hour long with the website. The API worked most of the time (5 minute outage), though, also the mobile app.

It is back to normal. Quite ugly with an unusual +1.5% price move in between.

edit: and right back to malfunctioning.

kraken was down for ~5 minutes for the order book and another 5 minutes for the trading tab. Plus another 8 minutes of very low performance. That is a long time in this highly active period.

Today it works without further ado.

Trying to place a margin order I get the error message "invalid leverage", no matter which leverage I choose. I do not see any reason for a problem like missing funds or anything else.

Would love to see in the open order tab, if an order is placed on margin or not.

I still do not get how margin allowance is calculated. Currently, I have the following:

Trade Balance: 21
Equity: 20
Used Margin: 10
Free Margin: 10
Margin Level: 203%

Still, I cannot open new positions because "margin allowance exceeded". Shouldn't I be able to open positions until a margin level of at least 150%?