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Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
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Ikikyabut
on 11/10/2018, 09:50:55 UTC
I'm trying to make a Spectrocoin deposit in Ether Classic, iExec. Instead of the wallet adress to replenish, it shows me the following error:

"Some errors occurred:
Can't get deposit address. Please contact support"

In the tech support chat I was asked to contact ShapeShift myself. Banker - if you accept payments through ShapeShift, and it doesn’t work for you now - why is this my problem? It's your problem! I, what would make MY money to YOU, also should solve technical problems for you? This is ridiculous. This is not a business, not a bank, but a kindergarten of some kind! Fix your system. Or ShapeShift, too, began to suspect you of fraud? Why this problem?


I didn’t think they had a eth classic wallet, only eth btc dash nem bnk.
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Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
by
Ikikyabut
on 10/10/2018, 00:55:16 UTC

Ansault thanks for that. I suppose it depends on the interpretation of currency exchange. My interpretation was an extension of SC functionality as a brokerage exchange converting fiat between fiat/ fiat to the big crypto's, crypto back fiat. A trading platform/exchange for just crypto is a different beast all together IMHO.


Given the crypto/blockchain background of this project, I don't think it's a stretch to take it to mean crypto-centric exchange. Spectrocoin's platform was already operational during the ICO and so was the (trading) exchange demo, which any ICO participant could test drive. I don't see any kind of misleading or obfuscation there.

Why is the exchange suddenly a problem anyway? It's a revenue generating mechanism that benefits all token holders.







The exchange isn't a problem as is. The problem lies in the fact that they are moving away further and further from the original plan. The plan was to make a crypto bank! BANKERA not EXCHANGERA If you have read everything correctly i have asked multiple times if and when they applied for a banking license.

The answer to that was:
that it would be a waiste of time and resrouces to go and get a banking license because Pervesk already has one.
Next to that we always have been told that pervesk was part of the whole "eco-system", but yesterday they told us there will be no wr from Pervesk.

So to keep it simpel. The revenue which should make our wr is now done by a sister company which they can let charge every price as they are the owners and whatver goos into Pervesk they don't have to share with you and me.
And for Bankera there will be no banking license what was the idea what attracted me to the project.






According to unofficial data, Banker was interested in the possibilities to obtain a license from the Bank of Lithuania, but was not endorsed as it did not collect details on the identity of investors in ICO Banker

https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2018/09/21/mokejimu-istaigai-ir-jos-vadovui--12-mln-eur-baudu#ixzz5T0jPZ9ZB


Spectro Finance, headed by Mr. Karalevicius, also affiliated with the Spectro Coin cryptanalytic exchange, did not submit the last year's financial statements to the Center of Registers. The company employs 36 people.
That above will be delivered soon i guess






See now this article makes the picture clearer to me. 
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Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
by
Ikikyabut
on 09/10/2018, 07:50:11 UTC

Ansault thanks for that. I suppose it depends on the interpretation of currency exchange. My interpretation was an extension of SC functionality as a brokerage exchange converting fiat between fiat/ fiat to the big crypto's, crypto back fiat. A trading platform/exchange for just crypto is a different beast all together IMHO.


Given the crypto/blockchain background of this project, I don't think it's a stretch to take it to mean crypto-centric exchange. Spectrocoin's platform was already operational during the ICO and so was the (trading) exchange demo, which any ICO participant could test drive. I don't see any kind of misleading or obfuscation there.

Why is the exchange suddenly a problem anyway? It's a revenue generating mechanism that benefits all token holders.




I’m not saying it’s a bad thing what I’m saying is that it was a deviation away from the original plan. Huup in his previous post showed from chat with Vytautas one of the reasons why.
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Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
by
Ikikyabut
on 09/10/2018, 07:39:28 UTC
To be fairly honest, we can review original Whitepaper. I have this "bad habit" of saving documents when spending money on something.
I have Bankera's WP dated (saved on my PC) 20 August 2017, so means it's more likely first one from pre-ICO and ICO stage.

Here is link to it: https://we.tl/t-VLoN7LjZ62

From the roadmap we can see that Bankera (not partner companies) should do following: "Mid-2018 Establishing EU regulated bank".

Section 1, intro

"We encourage supporters to try Bankera’s services before participating in the ICO."

Section 5, about banking

" Licensing is one of the key assets of financial institutions. Currently, Bankera’s management team has obtained a payment institution’s (PI) license and is authorised to operate in all European Economic Area (EEA) regions. Bankera expects to obtain an electronic money institution (EMI) license before the ICO, to have a solid foundation in place to provide the planned services except accepting deposits and offering investment products, which will come later."

Section 9, timeline

" In terms of revenue streams, Bankera will initially focus on core banking activities such as lending and payment processing, following the establishment of an EU banking license. The next product option that Bankera will introduce will be low-cost investment options for clients via EFTs. Eventually, the bank will offer a full range of investment services including trading, custody and investment banking services for its clients. Bankera will also offer robo-advisory based wealth management services for its clients."

" The preliminary timeline is: pre-ICO by the end of August, the launch of the minimum viable product with working IBAN and payment cards support by mid-October, a start of ICO preparations by late September, the end of ICO by the beginning of November. Bankera will offer advanced payment processing solution by summer 2018. Applying for a banking license by autumn 2018. Getting banking license in EU by late 2019. Starting deposit and lending business by mid-2019 (initially from Bankera’s capital)."

I didn't see (at quick look) any mentioning that Bankera will use partners with licenses, etc.
Whitepaper refers to Bankera as main entity obtaining all licenses required for proper functioning of hybrid banking institution.

It's been clearly said that Bankera will apply for banking license.

Now we can confront original Whitepaper with current one and statements from Bankera project.

Solution to get all clarified might be face to face meeting with board.
ICO is form of investing, so investors meetup is nothing unusual.
That way we could confront board with facts and see what they say.

Suggestion to Bankera

Because lot of promises has not been met as well as you not providing proper feedback and banning people asking right questions you should consider buy-back program, where you buy back tokens from ICO investors paying ICO price. We bought into different idea and project, described in original whitepaper and it doesn't seem it is being delivered as per original promise which made us invest.
Oterwise, it might turn into official legal battle. Not sure if people you mentioned in Whitepaper (EU officials) are willing to be involved in this type of "business".
Basically we invested in Bankera as product and future company and now money is being distributed amongst child companies which, I would assume, are not even own by Bankera, just by same people running those project/companies separately.

PS.
I did try Bankera services, as advised in intro. Had virtual credit card, then Bankera (SpectroCoin in fact) cancelled it because WavesCrest cancelled agreement with them. Support said that in 2-3 months I will get new virtual CC, once they will have partnership with new card issues. That was about 6-7 months ago and of course as we can imagine, replacement card never showed up.
Thank you
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Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
by
Ikikyabut
on 08/10/2018, 06:28:10 UTC
Hi all!

veteran in bnk chat, newbie overhere.

Can i ask why everything what is posted here, what is the truth, is getting al kind of weird troll and fud answers?
is there a way for a normal discussion overhere? or is moris1987 not the only nutcase. Because the way is see it those other people are exactly the same only their subject is different?
And more so, moris attacks the project and no one personal.


Hi there and welcome.

Moris attacks people calling Bankera investors idiots, calling Bankera's team scammers, typing death threats to the team and so on, he's the only one here that is that much into trolling and insulting people. The lack of work regarding the admins here is quite impressive, and unfortunately Bankera's team presence here is not what it used to.

Other than that if you read the numerous pages of the thread, you will see that most of us are just being patient waiting for the project to evolve.

Hi and thank you for your welcome!
The rest is waiting for the project to evolve. That's is something i was waiting on also and i was a big supporter. But as it turns apart from the exchange which they are supposedly building there is nothing really done for the bankera project.
The exchange was never in the original whitepaper and all the things they did promise in the whitepaper are done by companies which aren't bankera. They promise those companies will al be part of the "eco-system" but after a year we don't receive any wr from any of those.

In the meanwhile the cards are out, the IBAN isn't working anymore, CMC situation isn't resolved, the new website has many shortcommings and they are receiving fines by the authorities. And if one asks hard questions about in on their chat or reddit. the posts get deleted or the people get banned or muted. So yes I can understand that people are getting worried. i'm getting worried myself also now.

futhermore i welcome Spi, Scrooge, jimmy, monty-moo, boschen, ikikyabut, bitpuppy, holdingbags, albrcool, ironrand, massimo72, brandonlang95, djinxi, bnkbuyer and many other which i forgot to join me here as this seems to be tha last place where we can have an honest discussion without being sensored by BNK.

@bankera please answer the question. Did bankera apply for a banking license yes or no?



Hello,

We never said other companies would pay for the WR. The WR is paid from Bankera products, not by the companies who help providing these products. Bankera already has a narrow banking license (EMI license), which is sufficient to offer most banking services.

Actually it is Pervesk that holds the EMI not Bankera, Pervesk is not apart of the WR. You may want to have a chat to your CEO who verified this yesterday on the official chat. Happy to proven wrong if you would like to provide the licence number and the authority who issued it. From my understanding Bankera products will be underwritten by Pervesk and its licences.
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Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
by
Ikikyabut
on 08/10/2018, 03:28:41 UTC
Hi all!

veteran in bnk chat, newbie overhere.

Can i ask why everything what is posted here, what is the truth, is getting al kind of weird troll and fud answers?
is there a way for a normal discussion overhere? or is moris1987 not the only nutcase. Because the way is see it those other people are exactly the same only their subject is different?
And more so, moris attacks the project and no one personal.


Hi there and welcome.

Moris attacks people calling Bankera investors idiots, calling Bankera's team scammers, typing death threats to the team and so on, he's the only one here that is that much into trolling and insulting people. The lack of work regarding the admins here is quite impressive, and unfortunately Bankera's team presence here is not what it used to.

Other than that if you read the numerous pages of the thread, you will see that most of us are just being patient waiting for the project to evolve.



Hi and thank you for your welcome!
The rest is waiting for the project to evolve. That's is something i was waiting on also and i was a big supporter. But as it turns apart from the exchange which they are supposedly building there is nothing really done for the bankera project.
The exchange was never in the original whitepaper and all the things they did promise in the whitepaper are done by companies which aren't bankera. They promise those companies will al be part of the "eco-system" but after a year we don't receive any wr from any of those.

In the meanwhile the cards are out, the IBAN isn't working anymore, CMC situation isn't resolved, the new website has many shortcommings and they are receiving fines by the authorities. And if one asks hard questions about in on their chat or reddit. the posts get deleted or the people get banned or muted. So yes I can understand that people are getting worried. i'm getting worried myself also now.

futhermore i welcome Spi, Scrooge, jimmy, monty-moo, boschen, ikikyabut, bitpuppy, holdingbags, albrcool, ironrand, massimo72, brandonlang95, djinxi, bnkbuyer and many other which i forgot to join me here as this seems to be tha last place where we can have an honest discussion without being sensored by BNK.

@bankera please answer the question. Did bankera apply for a banking license yes or no?


SPI got the answer to that yesterday
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Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
by
Ikikyabut
on 08/10/2018, 03:12:14 UTC

The exchange was never in the original whitepaper


That's not true, the exchange is first mentioned on page 4 in the whitepaper:

The aim of the ICO is not to test a speculative idea, but to provide the capital to enable Bankera as a
product to expand its existing services to compete with existing banks as an equal
across all areas of operation including payments, lending, currency exchange, and investments.



This is totally incorrect!  This was confirmed and then reaffirmed by Bankera's own founders.  The exchange was not in the original roadmap and subsequently added because they had a change of direction.  When did you come to the party?
I guess people just wanna believe something different...
Next they are going to tell us that Lon Wong is still an advisor :-)

just quoting the whitepaper...

 

Ansault thanks for that. I suppose it depends on the interpretation of currency exchange. My interpretation was an extension of SC functionality as a brokerage exchange converting fiat between fiat/ fiat to the big crypto's, crypto back fiat. A trading platform/exchange for just crypto is a different beast all together IMHO.
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Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
by
Ikikyabut
on 07/10/2018, 11:11:53 UTC
Hi all!

veteran in bnk chat, newbie overhere.

Can i ask why everything what is posted here, what is the truth, is getting al kind of weird troll and fud answers?
is there a way for a normal discussion overhere? or is moris1987 not the only nutcase. Because the way is see it those other people are exactly the same only their subject is different?
And more so, moris attacks the project and no one personal.


Hi there and welcome.

Moris attacks people calling Bankera investors idiots, calling Bankera's team scammers, typing death threats to the team and so on, he's the only one here that is that much into trolling and insulting people. The lack of work regarding the admins here is quite impressive, and unfortunately Bankera's team presence here is not what it used to.

Other than that if you read the numerous pages of the thread, you will see that most of us are just being patient waiting for the project to evolve.

Hi and thank you for your welcome!
The rest is waiting for the project to evolve. That's is something i was waiting on also and i was a big supporter. But as it turns apart from the exchange which they are supposedly building there is nothing really done for the bankera project.
The exchange was never in the original whitepaper and all the things they did promise in the whitepaper are done by companies which aren't bankera. They promise those companies will al be part of the "eco-system" but after a year we don't receive any wr from any of those.

In the meanwhile the cards are out, the IBAN isn't working anymore, CMC situation isn't resolved, the new website has many shortcommings and they are receiving fines by the authorities. And if one asks hard questions about in on their chat or reddit. the posts get deleted or the people get banned or muted. So yes I can understand that people are getting worried. i'm getting worried myself also now.

futhermore i welcome Spi, Scrooge, jimmy, monty-moo, boschen, ikikyabut, bitpuppy, holdingbags, albrcool, ironrand, massimo72, brandonlang95, djinxi, bnkbuyer and many other which i forgot to join me here as this seems to be tha last place where we can have an honest discussion without being sensored by BNK.

@bankera please answer the question. Did bankera apply for a banking license yes or no?


I have a account over here but the conversation in Chat was better, at least the admins were there even if they used drop down answers. Besides I didn’t have to read Moris’BS.
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Board Announcements (Altcoins)
Re: [ANN]BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era
by
Ikikyabut
on 21/06/2018, 00:34:32 UTC
Bankera is proud to announce a Partnership with an Electronic Money Institution licensed in the EU

Very good news.but this partnership, what will bring benefits to Bankera investors?

Please take a look at our blog post: https://blog.bankera.com/2018/06/04/bankera-is-proud-to-announce-a-partnership-with-an-electronic-money-institution-licensed-in-the-eu/

Bankera as a token holder can you please clarify something for me please.
The Net Revenue which is paid weekly to token holders is the net revenue of which Bankera subsidiary entities owned by Mantas, Justas and Vytautas
Spectrocoin - yes?
Spectrocard?
Pacific Private Bank? There was to be a statement about its operation after the purchase but I have not been able to find it.
Bankera Exchange (once operational?)
Pervesk (is this now included?)

From a regulatory and risk perspective I understand why each are separated but it would be good for you to provide an explanation which entities are included in the net revenue share to token holders and which ones are not.