Hi,

I'm unable to download both 1,3 and 1.4 due to windows detecting virus/trojan.

"trojanddropper:win32/sirefef.gen!c"

One example

Dash the most "famous" masternode, has ROI 7,42% as I look now. One node is worth 487 000$. 4 750 nodes are operating. Dont you think these 4750 would sell their nodes and move it to the 1000% one? but they dont, wonder why.... Dont think for a second you are "really really really smart" and all those people who lower ROI masternodes are "really really really stupid".


Oh well got a bit carried away, it's horrible "financial" advice, that is basically pure gambling.


Can't for the first person popping up "but but but but but I made 1000%". Well people win 1000% in poker also, thats not the point. A lot more people are losing their investment in poker than 1000% ROI. You are the exception, not the rule.

1. I have 18x 1080 ti cards on 3 riggs. Guess I will continue with 1 more of thoose now. Then wait for new cards to be released. Thanks for the input guys.


2. Profit is in my opinion.. pretty good still in my honest opinon. Current profits let's your ROI your mining rig once every year or so, more often if you are active. That is an aaaamazing investment. You get 2% in the bank, to get 100% on your rigg...

sure you can have combo of altscoins,staking,masternodes, pump and dump and whatever. But the risk related to that compared to mining is two entirely different things! You put 10k into a mining rigg it aint gonna be worth 90%-95% less tomorrow unless you decide to buy "stupid" cards (like a bunch of 1050 tis a week before new nvidia cards or whatever I dont know). The developer leaves a coin,stake,masternodes whatever, you could wake up to 90% gone, and the remaining 10% to slowly decrease and never recover, there are literally tons of examples of this, many do not recover and get their crypto investsments up and running again. They dump premine, outright scams etc etc etc... And I hope everyone on this forum investing their money knows this. Your mining rigg is flexible, stable, good income. With an entirely different profile than the other investments listed. You invest time in it, and it would likely be higher. And after ROI you can literally point it at something, do "close to nothing" and get "free" money.

It's like saying why are you putting your money in the bank, when you get more profit playing poker. The risk profiles are entirely different, dont forget it. Risk and returns goes hand in hand over time, and currently it favours mining imo. The risk is low compared to the returns, now general economic theory would explain this with "first mover advantage" imo, and in 20 years the ROI on mining riggs will be aaaaaalot lower.


3. I assume your post is a joke "800$ card with 3$ a day profit". That's ROI 266 days, companies all over the world envy by that ROI.


4. Any total disregard from risk and profit coorelation is a waste of space on this thread.

5. You wanted not to slave in office, make real money. You are... ROI that rigg, get another, ROI them, keep expanding and the ROI on the ROI (compounding interest) will carry you into that. Let's say 3x 1080ti riggs i have. 10k$ usd new price now or something. thats 30k usd in extra income a year after ROI, you invest that ROI into 3 new righs you are pushing 60k a year in 2020 in mining. If that is not good enough for you, fair enough.

what would you pick.

a 1080 card, or a 1080ti card (price is excactly 20% more for the ti).

good post about returns.

I also think the ROI especially on pascal will increase If you get the cards today, you will still have at least one new generation nvidia cards, which also will increase ROI from what we can see from the leaks and based on history.

not really, the ROI of about 1 year - 1,5 year is very good in the business world. ROI will continue to go down, its a simple supply/demand/allocation of resources in the business world (which crypto has taken a seat in). As the marked matures, the risk decreases the ROI will also increase.

They will buy cards with quantity discounts, without/low VAT, they will have cheap electricity and they will try to get low taxes. and when nvidia and amd launches new cards they will be before you in the queue. Now let's assume things are going well! Right good for everyone? Not necessary, they will increase their investments into the sector, further increasing ROI and pushing your profits down. Their profits will be larger, their share of the market will increase. ASICS development for algoritms will increase, limiting the flexibility for GPU mining, if some companies with GPU mining has a large "breakthrough" the profits will be temporary, the asics will arrive. Or mining farms.

I have 3 riggs and think its great fun, but I'm not buying more(just replacing cards). Can you still make money on mining? sure. Great money? maybe. But current status and development the effort and risk I dont think see how ROI can go down. You can still get lucky. There is no scenario where we go back to old profits, that was early/first mover advantage (possible exception is an insane increase interest rates and inflation).

If you think the business world is just gonna sit and watch us make ROI >1 year and not jump in, you are in for a wakeup call.

My 2cents. I'm sure you will absolutely slaugther me, but wanted to share my thoughts.

Would it be possible to get some proper instructions on mining the new algo now? New ANN maybe with it?

Also my risers all have that light on them to show if they are working, are they just for show? or do they actually work....

my PSU's are


750W evga g2 supernova - powering 2 1080ti and their risers
1300w evga g2 supernova - powering the rest


Once I receive my new PSU a 1000w g2 supernova, I will have 3x GPU's on that one. And the 1300w will have 3x gpus + motherboard etc. Hopefully that will fix it. Dont like running it as low as 70TDP. Its minus 10 C outside, the heat is welcome this time of year.

I will regardless of the error is on this one. Only buy ubit in the future.


Relability seems to be the key word for risers... that most seem to agree on..

Well I switched the rigg from nicehash to single mining (Zcash) and dropped the TDP to 70%. The rigg has been stable since then..

It's not been a full day yet, but so far so good. The last week it didnt last a full night even.. I was sure it had crashed when I woke up, but happy to see it was still running.

So what do you think this means? Does this impact the riser vs psu discussion?

so using the risers I have with 4 pin and the 6 pin pci-e is not an option?

I'm struggling with the number of PCI-E cables I have available

thank you for the clarifications.

Im using the risers that you say are bad yes, 3 of them are connected directly to sata (only 1 per psu connection) and 3 of them are connected through the 4 pin molex. They have sata, 4pin and 6 pin.


Basically my soure for doing this is this post: https://forum.z.cash/t/the-facts-about-gpu-mining-electrical-specifications/19468 with some additonal googling. Im hoping to avoid sata all together, and I think I will with the new PSU.

Afraid I'm not sure I understand your comment

If not risers then what? or are you saying that the ones I have is the prbolem

Powering 1 riser with 1 sata connection I thought was according to the guidelines?

Equihash? Thats like #9 on profitability if you check them all

Hi,

I'm running a 6 GPU 1080 ti mining rigg. Asrock 110 pro btc motherboard. i have 1x 1300 w for risers and 4 GPU and one 750 W for the last two cards (and their risers also).

Now I have dialed back the GPU's to 75% tdp and with 0 overclocking as I'm waiting on better PSU's and the 750 w will go to the 1060 rigg, and be replaced by a 1000w watt. That way I will end with 3 cards on each PSU. Currently all cards are running below 200W.

Now things was stable for maybe a week, but lately the rigg is struggeling alot, its crashing several times a day and the worst part of it is actually the rebenchmarking that nicehash runs every time. I just dont understand why it has to do the benchmark all over again and I takes forever. Then its up again.

The risers are V008, and all the lights indicate that everything is fine. I have 1 sata per card and 2 on the molex. If it was just 1 card having to the benchmark again I would check the risers, but it's all of them. Pagefile set to close to 100gb ssd etc

Regardless I'm open to suggestions and tips in the search for a stable rigg. Currently stuck and waiting on new PSU hoping that's the solution.. but it might not be...