The most important thing fluffy did in retrospect was to disassociate him self “officially” by giving the big middle finger to wanna-be pumpers/investors by presenting his troll ‘MEA’ video at the 2016 NYC meeting. People always were strongly correlating anything that happened in Monero to fluffy as if he actually were a CEO of some scammy ICO company.

This allowed fluffy to have a life the way he wants to live it, and this also allowed Monero to continue it’s altruistic mission of being a private, decentralized and fungible... so imo, this has nothing to do with fluffy. He has every right to be as much of a troll/blockstream fan boy as he wants. We are in this to go away from a central authority.

LOL, you'll wish you never asked.

It's fucked. Here's some drama:
https://i2p.rocks/blog/kovri-and-the-curious-case-of-code-rot-part-1.html
https://i2p.rocks/blog/kovri-and-the-curious-case-of-code-rot-part-2.html
https://i2p.rocks/blog/kovri-and-the-curious-case-of-code-rot-part-3.html

Uquid.com down...

Hosting Server Connect Timeout

HTTP 502 — Unable to Connect to the Origin Server

^ Me when I finally made it to the end of that sentence. ^


But I had a bit of a think about it more and I got to thinking that there is just too much information in this space for people to sort through and absorb. So much fud and so much garbage, so much noise to signal. I mean who here knows what the hell is going on in other projects besides their babies? It seems pretty likely that it is not at all priced in.

sumo coin did not started same as "monero classic" or might monerov. It started with genesis block, other two started with as many coins Monero had at time of fork.

Drop in hashrate made first blocks slower. So yesterday after hardfork, Monero was as slow as Bitcoin. Like block every 10 minutes. Now it will ofcourse catch up and blocks will be faster then in 2 minutes until it will get back to normal around 2 minutes a block.


Not sure what should ability to scale have to do with it. Monero block can grow and shrink and is not bottleneck of scaling. It is something else, you should google it.

There were only 2 EUR left in the account as luckily I've just recently transferred to Bitstamp a few days before the closure. They asked for explanation of the funds and supporting documents, I provided transfer receipt from the bank and stated that it is for investment on Bitstamp. They sent the thread where they communicate with Satabank (their account provider) a few days after the closure  and a staff from there said

"Since the client confirmed that he is trading cryptocurrency, we need to terminate the account. Kindly request disposal instructions.
 
Thanks.
Kind regards,


Satabank p.l.c.
Aragon Business Centre.
Dragonara Road St Julians; STJ 3140; Malta.
Swift Code: STBAMTMT"

Everybody who thinks about investing in this project, please bear in mind my observations during the last weeks:

- I was very interested in the project (esp. because McAfee) and signed up for the newsletter on 25 September. Besides some news about "Meet our Founders in Dubai", I quickly received two e-mails stating that "BitIndia ICO is Live" with an Ethereum address in the e-mail - in contrast to that "only 200 ETH Minimum investments, please first register on our website"-mentality. I do not know whether BitIndia was hacked during that time, all I know is that all e-mails came from the same e-mail address ico@bitindia.co. --> E-Mails and Newsletter are either not aligned with overall strategy, or it is fraud and they hope to get some more tokens besides that "minimum 200 ETH" thing, or they are just incompetent to identify hacks and to clarify the danger in public

- In the e-mails, always a minimum of 200 ETH is stated, on the website it is 150 ETH --> incompetency

- When I first read into the project (must be 25. September) there were links to a Slack channel everywhere: bitindiaofficial.slack.com As I see Slack as the best communication tool I registered to find out, that it seems to be the second slack channel (as "BitIndia Official" stated that due to spam they opened a new one). However, it was completely empty, and only a few questions (the easiest ones) were answered by "Bitcoin Official". I asked them on Telegram whether they have a Slack channel and they said "No". I sent them the address and asked them to clarify whether this slack channel is official or not - they never did that. They also did not answer my questions about BitIndia on Telegram

- While Telegram is only a one-way communication channel with the developer alone (well, it was apparently, now they changed it and have 30 members) and the before-mentioned Slack channel is either official and empty or fake (and empty), they have a very big Facebook and Twitter community... think about that what you want.


Last but not least a list of questions of a Slack user, which I found quite interesting. I also sent these questions to BitIndia in their telegram channel, but they never answered:


I do not want to believe this is fraud (esp. with McAfee involved in it). However, the inconsistencies in communication, the lack of any fanbase on Slack / Telegram / Bitcointalk and the intransparent ICO details make me think that it is indeed either fraud (and McAfee fell for it) or a very, very incompetent team - both is very bad for any investments.

There is no difference. Fidor recently opened for most of Europe.

Ich habe einen Wohnsitz im Ausland. Kann ich bei Fidor Bank ein Konto eröffnen?
Derzeit bieten wir unseren Service nur für Kunden mit einem dauerhaften Wohnsitz in Deutschland an. Daher ist eine Kontoeröffnung nur dann möglich, wenn Sie eine deutsche Meldeadresse haben beziehungsweise nachweisen können.

  Smart boy. Weed of unbearable strength made me unleash a norwegian speaking beast within myself   I put jwh18 and mj in one pot and took that. U got it right, I mixed weak ass cush with jwh strain and got the beater of conscience™. It shuttered both my body and conscience and everything inbetween. Woke up today morning and found six hundred empty folders named truncated pentakis dodecahedron  



Maybe more, Ill give it a check later. That beater crushed me hard, dragged my body left and right and everywhere and left in a superposition between two states of living, granting me a unique privilege to roll and flow through matter, in particular through a physical shell of mine.


Forget about rsi, it broke out of the 3yo parabolic curve this week hence a sharp weekly candle with head red. Sure it means nothing since ta sucks balls big time but anyways.


Since when inaccessible supply equals zero   Oh yeah First someone comes and says fiat is poop and all since the btc value is essentially what gears the universe. In the middle of fucking bubble//   Next, yet another genius comes up and shoots the dumbest possible fallacy of all fallacies ever posted on this message board.

Back to tail emission, who on earth cares about it? Its a fifth grade formula after all. They wanted to make the mining reward autoadjust so that the quantity of newly minted coins would balance out the quantity of hypothetically lost coins, they did, who cares. U appear to be this much obsessed with lost keys, fine. I dont care about that shit at all. I dont even know what timeframe u are talking about. 10 years 100 years 1000 years billion years. In 20 years from now u will simply bind ur private key or whatever it will be substituted with by that time, to ur dna nuclear envelop and then u are free to lose ur keys or get hit by an aerobus or get killed by walking truncated pentakis dodecahedron. U are goner and ur keys are lost. What happens next is ur descendant goes through a dna paternity test and whoa retrieves the coins. Nobody of living humans has enough intellectual capacity to comprehend what will happen in 100 years so dont bother about it. The 0.5 percent figure is a joke of course, they put it out of their ass. Its not applicable for covering all possible and theoretically possible scenarios in which keys could be lost and found retrieved and lost again. But its not a problem. Its not good its not bad its alright. But when u talk about 100 years LOL ffs just shut up.

How is the indicative price calculated? It looks like there is some spread between it and the BTC/XMR rate on my exchange.

Edit - Would also like to know if you will convert til BTC or BCC (or both...) going forward?

Guys, over at the Sumokoin Telegram we're having a discussion about new potential safety and anonymity features for Sumokoin. These are suggestions made by the community - we do not speak for the developers. With this in mind, we'd like to hear what everyone else over here thinks about the following:

SOS transfer: The idea is to have a "fake" wallet password which, if you were to divulge it to someone and that person were to use the "fake" password to access your wallet, an SOS transfer would be triggered, automatically and instantly withdrawing all of your SUMO to a secondary wallet that only you know about. Alternatively, instead of having a "fake" password for this, there could be some sort of simple puzzle (like mouse-clicking on 3 or 4 small images in a certain order) that only the wallet owner knows how to solve. You would be required to solve the puzzle before or after accessing the wallet with your password. If the puzzle is not solved correctly, the SOS transfer is initiated and all SUMO are transferred to the secondary wallet. (This would help against some keylogging attempts.)

Embeded Escrow: The idea behind this is to avoid situations where trusted third-party payment escrow providers are tempted to steal the funds when a large transaction is involved, thereby reducing trust in the ecosystem and causing significant losses. With an Embeded Escrow feature, the escrow service provider would never be in control of the escrowed funds. The buyer/seller/escrow would initiate an Escrow Transaction, and a special Escrow Address would be created, after which the buyer would send the funds to the Escrow Address. The escrow provider would then receive a password, which can be used to do only one of two things: either release the funds from the Escrow Address to the seller, or return the funds to the buyer if the seller does not deliver the goods. The Escrow provider has no way of withdrawing the funds to his own address or using them any other way. Upon releasing the funds, the escrow provider receives his agreed-upon fee for his services.

Risk Management Feature: Large merchants have a lot to risk. If they lose access to their wallet or an unauthorized party gains access to it, their losses can be catastrophic. Some merchants might choose to control their risks by spreading out their balance across multiple Wallets so that if one is compromised, at least the remaining walltes should be OK. The Risk Management Feature would do exactly that: the merchant would create extra wallets, and whenever they receive a transfer to their main wallet, the transfer amount would be broken up into equal chunks, each of which is sent to one of the other wallts. For example: merchant creates 3 separate wallts in addition to their main wallet, making for 4 wallets in total. Merchant then activates the Risk Management Feature in their main wallet and and inputs the 3 wallet addresses in the settings. Now the merchant receives a transfer of, say, 100 SUMO, to his main wallet (the one with Risk Management enabled). The Risk Management system automatically divides the payment into four chunks of 25 SUMO each. One chunk remains in his primary wallet, the second chunk goes to the second wallet, third chunk to third wallet, and fourth chunk to fourth wallet.

Please let us know what you think, and please consider using the follwing Strawpoll to let us know which of the three features you find most interesting: http://www.strawpoll.me/13658077/r

And make sure to let us know if you have any other ideas - you can do it here or in Telegram. Thanks.

I opened a Mistertango account and I was very happy with the procedure. I am not royalty or a relative of the pope or the Sultan of Brunei so I am grateful and appreciate for the minimal effort and time required to open this account. I was neither asked to climb Mt Everest nor swim across the Pacific.

Positively identifying a client is a bank's core mandate and requirement. Lithuania is part of the EU and therefore observes strict KYC procedures.

The nerve and the audacity. Clients who throw tantrums or play the customer-is-king drama card are best contained quickly and advised to crawl back to that same hole they hibernated in or time-travel back to that age of no smartphones. They want this no-fee account. They want to be served in the year 2017, the age of smartphones. They want a means to move money from A to B. They want the free MasterCard. They want a bitcoin-friendly banking service. They want everything. But...

"Just don't ask me to do any work"

And then the bomb. The fellow thinks he is surrendering his privacy and compromising his security by signing up with a bank properly registered with Lietuvos Bankas, the Bank of Lithuania. He basically wants, additionally, to use a PC or some other device that will allow him (like many here) to bypass the very system which protects the bank from fraudulent applications. In his arrogant way of communicating with the bank, he makes every effort to convince the bank that HIS preferred way of doing it is the only way he wants it done. (try doing that with Citibank or Deutsche Bank or Credit Suisse or Bank of America...)

Nah, this strategy won't work. It's either you are truly throwing a tantrum OR you are attempting to fraudulently bypass Jumio, the intelligent identification system the bank has in place to thwart identity thieves.

One is best distanced from such people. Thus the third person talk.

On Tue, 2017-08-01 Kanati wrote:

Hello again

"Borrowing" a friends smartphone would compromise their privacy and security just so I can get verified.  You could easily get the documentation you need from a PC on the Internet, so I don't see any reason why you really need all these permissions on a smartphone...

   Version 1.11.9 can access:

      Location
         precise location (GPS and network-based)
      Phone
         read phone status and identity
         Photos/Media/Files
         read the contents of your USB storage
         modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
      Storage
         read the contents of your USB storage
         modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
      Camera
         take pictures and videos
         Device ID & call information
         read phone status and identity
      Other
         receive data from Internet
         view network connections
         pair with Bluetooth devices
         full network access
         run at startup
         draw over other apps
         control vibration
         prevent device from sleeping

If having a smartphone is a requirement then I won't be needing the service. Please delete my account if that is the case.

Sincerely,
Kanati.

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On Tue, 2017-08-01 Mistertango wrote:

We would like su suggest to borrow mobile device from someone for identification and after that you could use our service using computer.
 
Mistertango - Pagalbos centras / FAQs

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On Tue, 1 Aug  Kanati wrote:
 
Hello

Thank you for your reply.

Since I will not be buying a smart phone just to use this service, I ask that you kindly close my account.

Sincerely,
Kanati

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On Tue, 2017-08-01 Mistertango wrote:

Hello,

I am writing to you to inform, that there is only one way to get your verification done - using Mistertango app.
 
Mistertango - Pagalbos centras / FAQs

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On Tue, 1 Aug Kanati  wrote:

Dear Support department

I started to open a MT account, and saw I needed a smart phone to confirm my ID.  Then I created a support case to ask if it is possible to use the service with a PC instead of a smart phone, but when I try to check the status of the support case the web page does not recognize my login credentials (which I also think is strange!).

Do I need a smart phone to use this service?

Sincerely,
Kanati.

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On Mon, 2017-07-31 Mistertango wrote:

Hey!

just wanted to remind you that free Mistertango payment account and free MasterCard is waiting for you. All you need to do is just to complete the registration.

Complete registration and order my Free MasterCard

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Sorry, a bit curious here, what are the different with this thread with this one?https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053326.0, it look exactly the same but started by different person.

...
And we also had a botnet dropping each day 3-5K coins for a market price.
...

You can see the indicative price at any moment.
You can enter your desired BTC amount, and the website will tell you how many XMR you need to send (and also the exact price that you will get).

Conversion is instant for orders below 0.1 BTC. Above that you will wait 1-3 Monero confirmations depending on your amount, that is 2-6 minutes on average.