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Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN
THATS BECAUSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ANY LAW, POPULOUS DOES NOT NEED A LICENSE OF ANY TYPE TO OPERATE IN THE CRYPTO OR INVOICE FINANCING OR GOLD MARKETS, YOU NEED TO DO BETTER THAN THAT, THE STATEMENT IS VERY OLD
Every single fiat based invoice factoring company in the U.K operates under an FCA License.
The point to be made is that a crypto based invoice factoring company, operating within the U.K does not *yet* need a FCA license to operate, emphasis is on 'yet'. Does anyone really expect a multi-billion dollar company, supposedly handing billions of dollars per year in invoices will *not* be required to operate under a license in the near future ? I would place this in the 'very unlikely' category.
If you don't believe it is likely that FCA licenses will be required, then carry on buying PPT, that is the risk you take for the reward. If you however agree that you will need an FCA license in the near-future for said crypto based invoice factoring then the purchasing decision for PPT hinges on whether you think Nico and the team can obtain an FCA license to operate.
I would expect that the FCA would not grant PPT a license to operate with the present team in place.
This is all speculation and it needs to play out however, nobody should be blind to these risks and they should be discussed openly and in a balanced manner so if people get burned there is less pressure on the PPT team.
As it stands there are people who bought at $60 and were not entirely in the clear about all of this and are thus, very unhappy to see the price tank to the $2x range. This actually puts more pressure on the PPT team, not less than if these details had come up during ICO.
On the other hand if these details were known about during ICO, would anyone have given Nico the seed money? Probably not, so you can see why its only come to light recently.
This is what I am trying to say.
PPT team must clarify this issue if they and PPT defenders wants people to invest on this project.
Are you a PPT defender? Go to chat and ask about licence. There is a good chance that you will be banned from chat.
Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN
Update from Steve: you can only use ppt to buy invoices. Fiat is worthless.
Thats ridiculous. Lets say I am an investor who is willing to buy an invoice for %5 profit. I am already risking my money for this %5 profit. Do I also have to worry about PPT price? What if PPT price drops %15 percent? I will be losing %10
There is no such stupid investor around me. This type of business only works for guaranteed profits.
Same for seller side. I will be selling my invoice by giving up from %5 of it. I cannot afford losing %15 because PPT price dropped. I need my money in fiat.
Micro factoring = micro profit = micro risk
If Steve said that, thats also proof of how this system is not going to work.
Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN
He -finally- admitted his conviction, we can move further ahead and ask more questions.
Since he is convicted of a fraud, he cannot participate in a financial business by law. So, how is he going to participate in PPT project? Is he going to move this business outside of EU? Is he not going to get customers from EU zone? Which regional market is he going to target?
Is moving offices to IOM will solve all legal problems?
Some says "you don't like it, get the hell out of here"
It is not an issue to like or not. I am an investor and have all the rights to ask questions and invest or not.
Since he is convicted of a fraud, he cannot participate in a financial business by law. So, how is he going to participate in PPT project? Is he going to move this business outside of EU? Is he not going to get customers from EU zone? Which regional market is he going to target?
Is moving offices to IOM will solve all legal problems?
Some says "you don't like it, get the hell out of here"
It is not an issue to like or not. I am an investor and have all the rights to ask questions and invest or not.
Do you have a source that shows he wouldn't be able to "participate" in a financial company by law? Also, can you elaborate how "participate" is defined?
Join to telegram and ask about if they got licence to operate money business. You will be banned immediately.
They cannot do this without proper applications and permits. Yet, there is no single information about that.
Don't believe me. Go ahead and ask them!
THATS BECAUSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ANY LAW, POPULOUS DOES NOT NEED A LICENSE OF ANY TYPE TO OPERATE IN THE CRYPTO OR INVOICE FINANCING OR GOLD MARKETS, YOU NEED TO DO BETTER THAN THAT, THE STATEMENT IS VERY OLD
PPT is a yet another micro crediting system and they are based in UK, right? Also, PPT coin is used only for paying fees. Whole business is not tied to crypto money. Investors will be paying real fiat currencies to sellers. It is real money business, not crypto.
So, read this -> http://ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/3669/attachments/1/translations/en/renditions/pdf
You seem to be a lazy ignorant person. Let me find exact section for you.
United Kingdom
Main laws and normative acts
Credit Unions Act 1979 and the Industrial & Provident Societies Act 1965
Description: Credit Unions must register under the Industrial & Provident Societies Act
1965, which gives them corporate status and limited liability and their activity is
governed by provisions of the Credit Unions Act 1979. A Credit Union may only undertake
those activities for which there is an express or implied power in the Credit Unions Act.
Loans may only be made to natural persons, who share a common bond. However,
some of these loans will be used by sole traders for business purposes. There is currently
an interest rate cap on loans (2% per month). Credit unions are regulated by the
Financial Services Authority under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000. Before
they can do business, they need to be authorised by the FSA, which makes rules about
their operations.
Community Development Finance Institutions (CDFIs) may register either as companies
regulated under Company law; or community benefit societies registered under the
Industrial & Provident Societies Act 1965. They are not subject to the provisions of the
Credit Unions Act. CDFIs which register under the Industrial & Provident Societies Act
may invite retail investment of withdrawable share capital ('WSC'). WSC is risk capital
which carries no guarantee of repayment, and so takes the CDFI outside of European
Banking legislation. CDFI's lend for both personal and business purposes. Investment
applied to their business lending may, if qualifying criteria relating to the spread of loans
is met, attract a tax relief which is the equivalent of 8.33% to higher rate tax payers
under the Community Interest Tax Relief scheme ('CITR'). Where investors are paid a
return, it is usually paid as a percentage of the investment, rather than a dividend.
Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN
He -finally- admitted his conviction, we can move further ahead and ask more questions.
Since he is convicted of a fraud, he cannot participate in a financial business by law. So, how is he going to participate in PPT project? Is he going to move this business outside of EU? Is he not going to get customers from EU zone? Which regional market is he going to target?
Is moving offices to IOM will solve all legal problems?
Some says "you don't like it, get the hell out of here"
It is not an issue to like or not. I am an investor and have all the rights to ask questions and invest or not.
Since he is convicted of a fraud, he cannot participate in a financial business by law. So, how is he going to participate in PPT project? Is he going to move this business outside of EU? Is he not going to get customers from EU zone? Which regional market is he going to target?
Is moving offices to IOM will solve all legal problems?
Some says "you don't like it, get the hell out of here"
It is not an issue to like or not. I am an investor and have all the rights to ask questions and invest or not.
Do you have a source that shows he wouldn't be able to "participate" in a financial company by law? Also, can you elaborate how "participate" is defined?
Join to telegram and ask about if they got licence to operate money business. You will be banned immediately.
They cannot do this without proper applications and permits. Yet, there is no single information about that.
Don't believe me. Go ahead and ask them!
Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN
He -finally- admitted his conviction, we can move further ahead and ask more questions.
Since he is convicted of a fraud, he cannot participate in a financial business by law. So, how is he going to participate in PPT project? Is he going to move this business outside of EU? Is he not going to get customers from EU zone? Which regional market is he going to target?
Is moving offices to IOM will solve all legal problems?
Some says "you don't like it, get the hell out of here"
It is not an issue to like or not. I am an investor and have all the rights to ask questions and invest or not.
Since he is convicted of a fraud, he cannot participate in a financial business by law. So, how is he going to participate in PPT project? Is he going to move this business outside of EU? Is he not going to get customers from EU zone? Which regional market is he going to target?
Is moving offices to IOM will solve all legal problems?
Some says "you don't like it, get the hell out of here"
It is not an issue to like or not. I am an investor and have all the rights to ask questions and invest or not.
i am 99.999 sure bitconnect.co is scam websiite, i have invested 50000$ but no return yet, the i tried to contact support team,
but not response , they are ignoring my massage i have all the proov you can contact me i will send you all prove, please avoid the invest on bitconnect.co
bitcoinnect is ponzi website, but if you need to invest your money so you can invest any amount on bitcoinsolve.com
the site is paying very good profit, and also we can withdraw our deposit amount any time form the website,
but not response , they are ignoring my massage i have all the proov you can contact me i will send you all prove, please avoid the invest on bitconnect.co
bitcoinnect is ponzi website, but if you need to invest your money so you can invest any amount on bitcoinsolve.com
the site is paying very good profit, and also we can withdraw our deposit amount any time form the website,
Thats weird. How did you do investment? By lending it? Or did you just deposited BTC?
Care to share some screenshots?
Re: BitConnect (BCC) ile ilgili tüm sorularınıza yanıt verebilirim
hocam bitconnect yani bcc hakkında birçok kimse aslında çiftlikbank ya da megaholding gibi yapılardan bir farkı olmadığını tamamen sistematik bir coin dolandırıcılık olduğunu söylüyor bu ne kadar doğru sizce
BitConnect'in onlardan farkını söyleyeyim.
Ponzi, piramit, titan yapılarında siz sisteme birilerini sokmazsanız para kazanamazsınız. İllaki birilerini sokacaksınız ve onlarda sisteme para yatıracaklar. Ve onlar da birilerini getirmek zorundalar. Siz onların hem yatırdıklarından hem de kazandıklarından pay alırsınız.
BitConnect sisteminde ise kimseyi getirmek zorunda değilsiniz. Yine paranızı kazanırsınız. Misal benim sponsorum yok. Kimsenin referansıyla kaydolmadım. Ve kimseye de sponsor olmadım, olmaya da çalışmıyorum.
Ama yine de paramı kazanıyorum.
Re: BitConnect (BCC) ile ilgili tüm sorularınıza yanıt verebilirim
Aslında cevabı vermişsiniz ama yanlış yorumlamışsınız gibi Bana göre ponzi riski taşıyor. Nedenine gelecek olursak;
Gelirini bitcoinden elde ediyor; bu nereye kadar devam edebilir. Bu kadar kişiye bu miktarlarda ödeme yapan adamlar illaki bir ara tıkanırlar.
Ellerinde ciddi miktarlarda bcc bulundurmaları bu işi ciddi boyuta taşıyor. İstedikleri bcc yi belirli bir noktaya kadar yükseltmek olabilir. Balon oluşturmak çok zor bir şey değil. Paranız varsa tabi. Sonrada balon booom. !
Bana göre ponzi riski taşıyor. Nedenine gelecek olursak; Gelirini bitcoinden elde ediyor; bu nereye kadar devam edebilir. Bu kadar kişiye bu miktarlarda ödeme yapan adamlar illaki bir ara tıkanırlar.
Ellerinde ciddi miktarlarda bcc bulundurmaları bu işi ciddi boyuta taşıyor. İstedikleri bcc yi belirli bir noktaya kadar yükseltmek olabilir. Balon oluşturmak çok zor bir şey değil. Paranız varsa tabi. Sonrada balon booom. !
Bu sisteme karşı olan güvensizlik BitCoin'e karşı olan güvensizliğe çok benziyor. Yıllarca insanlar (ben de dahil) bitcoine de güvenmediler. Umarım yıllar sonra bu sistem (ve yeni çıkan ETHConnect, NEOConnect gibi diğerleri) yıllarca ayakta kalırlar.
Bu sisteme bir ay önce koyduğum parayla Bitcoin alsaydım %50 kazanmıştım. Bu sistem %30 verdi. O yüzden daha kazançlı diye bir olay yok. Adamlar benim paramdan %20 kazanç elde ettiler. Hatta belki daha fazlası. Bu sistem daha çok kazanmak isteyenler için değil, dolar üzerinden belli bir getiriye razı olanlar için.
Re: BitConnect (BCC) ile ilgili tüm sorularınıza yanıt verebilirim
Borsalarda olmayan olsa bile 1 2 tane borsada olan al sat üzerinden kazanç değil sadece paranı yatır bırak o değerlenecek mantığı ile para kazandırmayı sunan bi ponzi şeması. Uzak dur başka bir sürü alternatif var.
Yine yanlış bilgi sahibi bir arkadaşla karşı karşıyayız.
BCC misyon olarak diğer coinlerden farklıdır. Coini kendi cüzdanınızda tuttuğunuz sürece size ayda %10 artış verir. Bu artışı coin adedine yansıtırlar. Buna da "staking" denir. Bu nedenle bu coini diğer borsalarda görmenizin pek mümkün olduğunu sanmıyorum. Sadece her önüne kabul eden hitBTC borsasında var sanırım.
Re: BitConnect (BCC) ile ilgili tüm sorularınıza yanıt verebilirim
Aslında cevabı vermişsiniz ama yanlış yorumlamışsınız gibi Bana göre ponzi riski taşıyor. Nedenine gelecek olursak;
Gelirini bitcoinden elde ediyor; bu nereye kadar devam edebilir. Bu kadar kişiye bu miktarlarda ödeme yapan adamlar illaki bir ara tıkanırlar.
Ellerinde ciddi miktarlarda bcc bulundurmaları bu işi ciddi boyuta taşıyor. İstedikleri bcc yi belirli bir noktaya kadar yükseltmek olabilir. Balon oluşturmak çok zor bir şey değil. Paranız varsa tabi. Sonrada balon booom. !
Bana göre ponzi riski taşıyor. Nedenine gelecek olursak; Gelirini bitcoinden elde ediyor; bu nereye kadar devam edebilir. Bu kadar kişiye bu miktarlarda ödeme yapan adamlar illaki bir ara tıkanırlar.
Ellerinde ciddi miktarlarda bcc bulundurmaları bu işi ciddi boyuta taşıyor. İstedikleri bcc yi belirli bir noktaya kadar yükseltmek olabilir. Balon oluşturmak çok zor bir şey değil. Paranız varsa tabi. Sonrada balon booom. !
Bu sisteme karşı olan güvensizlik BitCoin'e karşı olan güvensizliğe çok benziyor. Yıllarca insanlar (ben de dahil) bitcoine de güvenmediler. Umarım yıllar sonra bu sistem (ve yeni çıkan ETHConnect, NEOConnect gibi diğerleri) yıllarca ayakta kalırlar.
Re: UYANIN ! Büyük Altcoin Yükselişi Başladı (Dash, Lisk uçtu sırada kimler var )
BitShares'i falan bilmemde Bitcoin'in en hantal ve en spekülatif döneminde ben en güvenilir, en kullanişli ve en hizli olarak Ethereum'u görüyorum. 1 Ağustos'tan beri hiç Bitcoin satin almayarak, Bitcoin'i ve Bitcoin'i elinde bulunduran gruplari protesto ediyor bütün alişverişimi Ethereum üzerinden gerçekleştiriyorum.
TL ile ETH alabiliyor musunuz? Yoksa önce BTC'mi alıyorsunuz?
Re: BitConnect (BCC) ile ilgili tüm sorularınıza yanıt verebilirim
Ponzi şeması üzerine kurulmuş bi scam projesi. Para koy hiçbir şey yapma ve paranın değeri artsın. Paranı loan ver paranın değeri artsın. Direkt ponzi şema yani. Hiç bi teknolojisi amacı yok. Para kazanmak üzerine kurulmuş bi scam proje. Detaylı anlatımları redditten bulabilirsiniz.
Neredeyse "Bitcoin al, hiç birşey yapma seneye %1000 kazanacaksın." der gibi oldu.
Re: BitConnect (BCC) ile ilgili tüm sorularınıza yanıt verebilirim
çok güzel uygulanmış pazarlaması harika yapılmış bir ponzi. geç patlayacak ama patladığında yer yerinden oynar çok büyüdü.
Sadece bir his mi? Yoksa bildiğin birşey var mı? Eğer bildiklerini bizimle paylaşırsan ziyadesiyle memnun oluruz. Değilse bu yazdığın anlamsızlaşıyor.
Re: BitConnect (BCC) ile ilgili tüm sorularınıza yanıt verebilirim
Coinmarketcap çok fazla reklamı çıkıyor. Bu da beni biraz süphelendiriyor. Şimdi şöyle sağlam piyasada olan projelere bakınca hiç biri reklam yapmıyor. BCC niye reklam konusunda bu kadar önem veriyor.
Bildiğim kadarıyla reklamı yapanlar BitConnect'in kendisi değil. Referralden para kazanmak isteyen kullanıcıları. Misal bu sistemden neredeyse 1milyon$ kazanmış olan Trevon James...
Eğer linke tıkladığında referral kodu görüyorsan, budur. Değilse lütfen bana da ekran görüntüsü paylaş. Çünkü dediğim gibi halen daha %30 oranında şüphelerim var.