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NEOSCOIN Thread 3. Since the first two were locked by the dev.
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MinerMario
on 19/09/2014, 00:18:09 UTC
I was a fairly big fan of NEOS recently but have become a bit discouraged and alarmed by the dev of this coin changing and finally locking threads here that concern this coin.

This came after the first thread was shutdown and a second moderated thread started where there was nothing but positive stated in the first thread. It made no sense then, and most certainly did not the second time.

There was no actual harassment of anyone in either thread that would justify just shutting down these threads. Heated debate? Questions? Skepticism? Absolutely. Some name calling towards the end? Yes. But constant harassment? Not a chance. This dev has actually been treated with kid gloves and much respect as crypto goes and his actions don't speak to someone with many skills in business or a respect for his investors.

For historical purposes here are the links to threads 1 and 2.

Thread 1:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=744291.0

Thread 2:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757984.0

The purpose of this thread is simple. To give the people who invest in NEOS a place to speak their minds either to say thank you or to air their concerns. While there was some heated debate towards the end of the second thread and some name calling needed to be moderated, there was no justification for the locking of either thread. These are not the actions of a business minded dev who just pulled off a successful and lucrative ICO. They are quite alarming as most of us know where the locked threads of devs who no longer which to monitor them go, which is down to 0.00000001 Satoshi.

In full disclosure I divested my last holdings of NEOS after the second thread was locked "due to constant harassment by people wishing to do the project harm (trolling)".

That was just not true. It was more along the lines of "I can't be bothered to actually do my job as a businessman, so I will just lock the threads and hang out with my buddies in IRC".

So now there is a thread to speak without the dev's interference and there will be no moderation.

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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 16/09/2014, 15:15:46 UTC
yeah these guys are trying to stir me up, from the start all i did was ask what new neos brings to the table, then i get the 12 year old brigade trying to amp me up, and labeling me a fudster.

genuine question #1
syntaks is it possible to get a bit more transparency, its kind of hard investing in mystery features, would be good to know all the features being implemented in V2, this way we can decide if we wish to invest, rather than just guess and be disappointed if its not what its been talked up to be.

And you could just as well have said that without resorting to the BS as well, so you won't find a friend here. I asked many of these same questions a week ago and the worst I got was "I am not relevant" from a pumper, so you can tone it down as well and act a bit more professionally.

I can not know what you actually invest in but I just bought back in for 4K NEOS. That can be seen on the market.

Can we just try and ask questions or comment without calling a lot of names. NEOS is not a shitcoin so there is no need for that, nor is every person questioning something a FUDDER so there is no need for that either.

Call each other names though, and that should be moderated. It just looks bad.
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 16/09/2014, 14:43:00 UTC
I am not typically one to ask for moderation in a thread, but this guy and those that engage with him might be good cause for it.

When I bring my BTC (AKA: Money) to an investment I like to see that it's a professional engagement. Having the thread look like a "nananana called you it first - no way your momma" kindergarten shout fest is a real turn off. Seen this happen in a lot of threads and it never ends good. It puts a really unprofessional appearance on the coin itself.

There are ways to comment even negatively without using words like "ballless - pussy - fudster - soggydong - etc"

So may I suggest Mr. Syntaks that you not delete the posts where honest legitimate questions either good or bad are asked (that would be wrong), but posts where there is nothing said other than name calling should likely be cleaned up. It just looks bad and no one here needs the added pressure on their investment.

2 NEOS worth. And yes I do have 2 NEOS.


 
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 09/09/2014, 18:21:40 UTC
Wow trolls should stop asking question which have answer already ! SuperNet was discussed and it's not going to have out participation and no ETA for v2. So stop asking the same question every 5 posts, please. Just have the faith, get some cheap NEOS while they are....
People who invest +20BTC in some project wount to know any ETA.I think that will be nice Roll Eyes

If you had invested +20 BTC in this project there would have been buy support at the higher levels. That didn't happen as there was less than 5 BTC support at best.

Just sayin'.




Nice graphic. And where was the buy support after that? Or was it all dump all the time after the pump until we find ourselves at the low end of your graphic, the part you failed to circle with MS-Paint?

Shh your irrelvant. I personally have 7btc invested and have not dumped a bit at all. There was around 50btc of buys all the way up. Go back to school.

No problem. I am obviously too stupid for the pumpers so I will let this coin go.

Be good all.
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 09/09/2014, 17:40:22 UTC
Wow trolls should stop asking question which have answer already ! SuperNet was discussed and it's not going to have out participation and no ETA for v2. So stop asking the same question every 5 posts, please. Just have the faith, get some cheap NEOS while they are....
People who invest +20BTC in some project wount to know any ETA.I think that will be nice Roll Eyes

If you had invested +20 BTC in this project there would have been buy support at the higher levels. That didn't happen as there was less than 5 BTC support at best.

Just sayin'.




Nice graphic. And where was the buy support after that? Or was it all dump all the time after the pump until we find ourselves at the low end of your graphic, the part you failed to circle with MS-Paint?
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 09/09/2014, 17:14:15 UTC
Just to say the thing was with the market's manipulation and kinda panic that was going on.Noone was saying anything about profit.But if you've been scammed once and have been a part of something like this before,you see every little detail.

I wasn't referring to the sane people in here...

Just the few idiots that seemed to pop up today and start asking stupid questions and getting pissy because they assumed they'd be rich by now. I think a majority of us are in this for the long haul and are happy to pick up cheap coin when we can and hold it.

Joe, saying "long haul" and "pick up cheap coins" are pumper terminology as well. That's what all the pumpers say before they dump into you.
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 09/09/2014, 17:11:58 UTC
Wow trolls should stop asking question which have answer already ! SuperNet was discussed and it's not going to have out participation and no ETA for v2. So stop asking the same question every 5 posts, please. Just have the faith, get some cheap NEOS while they are....
People who invest +20BTC in some project wount to know any ETA.I think that will be nice Roll Eyes

If you had invested +20 BTC in this project there would have been buy support at the higher levels. That didn't happen as there was less than 5 BTC support at best.

Just sayin'.
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Re: [PRE-ANN] CrackCoin | X11 | PoS + PoW | Launching Sept 8, 2014 8PM EST
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MinerMario
on 09/09/2014, 00:57:45 UTC
Why don't all you dev sock puppets go find a room and fuck each other to death.  I won't leave this thread.  I don't take orders from you clown.

Someone looks like they need a good tickle, Coochie, Choochie, Coo, Who's gonna be mayor of Toronto in 2014, Who? That's right YOU!



Lord knows a little crack didn't hurt Marion Barry any. He is still smokin' hard, fuckin' da hoes like a boss and ya'll still paying him. Smiley

Maybe I SHOULD start smokin' crack.

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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 09/09/2014, 00:29:27 UTC
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The whole altcoin market volume is very low at the moment and there is a lack of interest in trading alts generally. I guess the volume on coins like Coco are faked. Other coins with unique features like Storjcoin X, XC, VIA, RZR, VRC have low volume too.
2 Month ago the top traded coins had more than 5000BTC volume/day. Now people are thinking 300BTC is the top of the hype.

I believe in syntaks and his team and as soon the next btc bullrun is starting, a lot of alts and Neos will benefit from this.


A lesson can be learned from an altcoin that I'm embarrassed to even own. The concept seemed ridiculous on its face, but you can buy products with WKC for considerably less than the equivalent in fiat, and the reason is those sites can lose up to 40% of their income in chargebacks, and that's not possible with crypto. There were sites that accepted it even before it was trading, and because the products are priced independently in both fiat and WKC that provides a stable real-world value for the coin, promoted by an attribute of the coin. It's not anon but its separation from the BTC blockchain prevents it from being linked to you through your non-embarrasing purchases with BTC.

Too many alts, and yeah people will mine/buy them because they're alts and could be "the next big thing," but there has to be a way to use them for something that isn't zero-sum for them to grow, and with few exceptions that hasn't happened. I'm sure our devs are working on this as a high priority. As a rule the higher the markup and the greater the likelihood of chargebacks due to the nature of the customers (porn addicts, drug addicts, gambling addicts) the more suitable crypto is as the means of exchange.

Well WKC does have one important feature over 99.9% of all other altcoins. You can spend it for something useful. Smiley Smiley
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 08/09/2014, 23:48:47 UTC

The problem isn't that there is anything wrong with this coin or it's dev so far, it's that there was no *real* volume outside of the pump groups and there was no *real* support at post pump prices to hold it up there. It wasn't possible to just take some profits or leave the position without causing huge price swings because of the low volume.

That's what happened this weekend. People see the price is way too high with very little volume or new news to justify the huge price jumps, so they start taking their profits if they were in before the pump, or start mitigating losses if they bought in at the top. And with such low volume on the buy side, the market can't absorb it. The trend is constantly down and that reinforces itself.

Meanwhile obnoxious shitcoins like EthanCoin and CoCoCoin have a combined 250BTC volume today. That's the true crypto community of today, how they love their pump and dumps. Reminds me of Judgecoin. Honest dev, did PoD before there was a PoD, had a solid coin albeit not so feature rich. Had a great community but it languished, got pumped once, sidestepped for a while and died. It likely will be de-listed soon and the dev is already gone. There was no scam there, just no interest.

Even having a really good product with a great dev like NEOS is by no means going to mean a win. It might be an intellectual challenge for syntaks and yak and they will do great things, but you can't trade it well in this environment because of all this BS.

Just two sats worth.

Different people buy coins for different reasons. For me, I'm trying to amass wealth by taking the risks necessary to provide a new global economic system suited for the 21st century, just like the early people mining BTC with their CPU's and GPU's did. They were all rewarded. The people trading in this other way are also distributing coins and doing their part, and should be rewarded too, but it's zero-sum which means it basically comes down to tricking other traders and that doesn't have the same long-term potential. I can afford to buy and hold.

For me, I'm already thinking of a BTC as having a value in atoma, rather than the Neos being valued in satoshis!

I am with the whole alternate currency thing, trust me. It's why I tend to lose money a lot. Smiley I hate the banks, and the king assholes who run them so I dabble in this new currency. The interest in this new form of currency has been badly and perhaps even fatally wounded by the never ending scams and shady shit.

You think in BTC going to the moon. I see Russian Mafia gangsters who used to scam penny stocks to old people in New York and fled to this domain because the law hasn't caught up here yet. And that's a damn shame, because you will never get fairness in crypto markets without government intervention and jail time for criminals, but once there are laws on how cryptos will be run the *real* gangsters those bankers will set themselves up and run it as well.

Kind of a catch 22.

In the mean time coming back from off-topic post. I think NEOS will be okay shortly. Just need to flush out the damage from the initial pumps and try and place a true value on it. Then the people will come begging to get in.
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Re: [MOBI] MobiusCoin LAUNCHED!!!!!(SHA256) 21000000 Coins {Fresh Start}
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MinerMario
on 08/09/2014, 22:28:01 UTC
I have updated the stats to 0.8% premine which will go towards anyone who wants to help develop the coin and to setting up the pools and nodes.  Any help and support would be greatly appreciated.

Are YOU not developing the coin? You just instamined it to the point of a prolasped rectum but you don't have any coders?

This one is going to be tough for me, but I think I need to go rub one out or something and pass on this.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 08/09/2014, 22:13:56 UTC
can someone link the site that shows current coin count, I know its under 2 mil but looking for exact number since its so cheap now may as well buy em all.

I know, I'm breaking some of my rules with this one. I invest in the developer, more than just the coin.

In the first pages, at the very beginning, I didn't even believe the coin was real. I questioned that the dev could produce what he said he could. I was like, I've heard all this before, exchange in wallet and the other features. I was like where's your escrow? lol

Then the dev made a youtube video of the wallet working, had his coin on Bittrex, and had trusted members of the community vouching for him.

And all this happened within a couple hours of my questionable post.

hours, that's what I'm investing in, a dev like that. There are a few other devs out there this good, we know that, but they don't have a coin that has V2 around the corner, and crazy people selling for 20,000! They just don't know any better. They are selling the whales, and some of us, all their coins for next to nothing.

Sure, there are competitors out there, but look at the value placed their coins. You just don't get a coin of this scale, at this price, everyday.

I keep saying that's it, then buying a few more, and a few more lol




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The problem isn't that there is anything wrong with this coin or it's dev so far, it's that there was no *real* volume outside of the pump groups and there was no *real* support at post pump prices to hold it up there. It wasn't possible to just take some profits or leave the position without causing huge price swings because of the low volume.

That's what happened this weekend. People see the price is way too high with very little volume or new news to justify the huge price jumps, so they start taking their profits if they were in before the pump, or start mitigating losses if they bought in at the top. And with such low volume on the buy side, the market can't absorb it. The trend is constantly down and that reinforces itself.

Meanwhile obnoxious shitcoins like EthanCoin and CoCoCoin have a combined 250BTC volume today. That's the true crypto community of today, how they love their pump and dumps. Reminds me of Judgecoin. Honest dev, did PoD before there was a PoD, had a solid coin albeit not so feature rich. Had a great community but it languished, got pumped once, sidestepped for a while and died. It likely will be de-listed soon and the dev is already gone. There was no scam there, just no interest.

Even having a really good product with a great dev like NEOS is by no means going to mean a win. It might be an intellectual challenge for syntaks and yak and they will do great things, but you can't trade it well in this environment because of all this BS.

Just two sats worth.
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 06/09/2014, 18:35:04 UTC
mint pal just posted their requirements to be listed on their exchange and one of them is the coin has to be at least 28 days old then the development team needs to request a review and that takes 7 days and then another 7 days to be listed if it meets requirements ...

so we have a little issue... there one way around this, we can pay a 5 btc fee to be reviewed and listed within 24hrs... I'm thinking this would be a 5 btc well spent, maybe we can raise it in donations from the community and two turtle can help out maybe ?

what do you guys think, I'm going to bed but just throwing that out there...

also syntaks, what are your thoughts on the superNET , sounds extremely interesting, maybe we should consider joining and being a part of that considering it changes nothing for neos core properties. just another thought , if any one wants to know what super net is look into it, there will be at least 100 coins using supernet, and neos has a unique anon feature that I'm sure super net would love to have aboard..

what are your thoughts?

My thoughts on that are this: it's bogus.  Paying 5BTC to list a coin whose community wants it there, which shows interest and almost guaranteed volume is wrong.  Community demand should be the only reason a coin is added in my opinion.  That's like paying a store to put up a rack of the ugliest clothes you'd never buy, just to do it.  We'll go where we're wanted, that's for sure.  However, where there's potential for substantial trade fees to be made and a strong community demand - I don't see any reason for a fee.  Considering the fee mentioned basically contradicts the other stipulations to the tune of validating a coin in the best interest of the people.  A scam coin, paid to be listed doesn't make it any less of a scam.  It just means less liability for the exchange because the "terms" were met to validate the coin's existence and trustworthiness.  Sorry, but the only way you're going to hear it from me is blunt and I'm not liking a lot of what I'm seeing lately.

     Sincerely,

syntaks

You don't have it wrong and blunt is better. Everyone is this game is looking to eat, that should be obvious. It doesn't mean that all caution and common sense should be thrown out the window though.

Look at that 5 BTC "fee" there. That is close to $2500.00 USD. I work in IT and I know that I can let my on staff programmers validate the code for less than $50.00 USD an hour. That the exchange needs to put the code on their servers and set it up is just the cost of doing business to rake their fees on the trades. That expense should not be paid by the coin.

$2500.00 USD is a scam. They will make plenty trading the coin, the listing "fee" is just icing on the cake and completely unnecessary.

I would never pay it. Doesn't look like you will either.

Good.
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 06/09/2014, 18:13:08 UTC
I think, that this shouldn't be necessary. Mintpal will add Neos because it has a constant high Volume. They would benefit. And 5 BTC for a review... in my eyes that is in the near of "rip off". I won't pay for such a "business model".

Exchanges will realize that it will be benefical for them to add NEOS soon enough anyway, no need to cash up 5BTC..

SuperNet-ICO is a big mess. Glad, I didn't buy. Don't seem to be well planned/organized. And, therefore nobody seem to know the total-amount all who want to buy will get what they want. I expect, that it will be much cheaper after the ICO... and this mess is not necessarily great PR.

 

NEOS joining superNET, no thanks!


Have to agree. I read through the Supernet thread and it is indeed a hot mess. No need to risk this coins value by binding it to a messy ICO.
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 06/09/2014, 03:39:05 UTC
Yeah, some asshole threw up a 5 BTC sell wall around 27000, then the bots took over at 3000 sats less. It was manipulation to create a panic sell and a lot of these "investors" took the opportunity to sell out.

Now we start the whole process again. Sad

No we wont, market absorbed that 5BTC sell wall in just a few minutes we are back at 26801 already it was 23000 just 10 minutes ago.
Most retarded 5BTC dump ever wtf was his house on fire or something.
Malfunctioning tradebot!?

I looked through the market history at the time. It didn't sell, it was pulled.

They are looking for miner dumps possibly.... however...theres only 4 btc total buy orders down to 13k...this is not exactly good buy support. Crypto never ceases to amaze me people bitch they cant get a good dev or coin then when a real winner comes along it is not supported by a large audience. This makes zero sense.

That's the truth. Nothing makes sense because of all these damn tradebots and market manipulators. You can't tell what's up or down.

I held my bag this time though. Smiley

EDIT: Is there no exchange limiting or denying tradebot activity on their site? Shit-trix knows no lows so I don't expect anything out of their new public stance against bots. Anywhere else to list this coin where this crap isn't allowed? I would sure like to trade there.
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 06/09/2014, 03:36:21 UTC
Yeah, some asshole threw up a 5 BTC sell wall around 27000, then the bots took over at 3000 sats less. It was manipulation to create a panic sell and a lot of these "investors" took the opportunity to sell out.

Now we start the whole process again. Sad

No we wont, market absorbed that 5BTC sell wall in just a few minutes we are back at 26801 already it was 23000 just 10 minutes ago.
Most retarded 5BTC dump ever wtf was his house on fire or something.
Malfunctioning tradebot!?

We are not at 26K there is one order at  0.0000    0.0000    0.00000030 0.00026791

Which obviously can't even be since it's under the trade minimum. Someone is playing reindeer games with their API access and tradebots.
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 06/09/2014, 03:30:51 UTC
Yeah, some asshole threw up a 5 BTC sell wall around 27000, then the bots took over at 3000 sats less. It was manipulation to create a panic sell and a lot of these "investors" took the opportunity to sell out.

Now we start the whole process again. Sad

No we wont, market absorbed that 5BTC sell wall in just a few minutes we are back at 26801 already it was 23000 just 10 minutes ago.
Most retarded 5BTC dump ever wtf was his house on fire or something.
Malfunctioning tradebot!?

I looked through the market history at the time. It didn't sell, it was pulled.
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Re: [INF8] Infinium-8. Privacy-centric & CPU-mining
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MinerMario
on 06/09/2014, 03:21:12 UTC
Is there some place or thread except alt2bit where we can sell/trade Inf-8?
And what is the current price of the coin?

Check price here https://www.alt2bit.com/. I also can do an OTC if the community considers this necessary.

You can make OTC so people can offer coins for sale. alt2bit have no volume.

lets get this coin onto a real exchange guys

Solo mined this for awhile since I have some powerful CPUs, but don't see any forward movement. Anything on the radar? Anything to check back in on while I hold my bag?
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 06/09/2014, 03:13:14 UTC
someone just dumped all the way down to 23k...

Yeah, some asshole threw up a 5 BTC sell wall around 27000, then the bots took over at 3000 sats less. It was manipulation to create a panic sell and a lot of these "investors" took the opportunity to sell out.

Now we start the whole process again. Sad
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Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neoscoin Unique Anon(Arbitrush) Multi-Algo/Multi Exchange Web Wallet!
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MinerMario
on 04/09/2014, 02:08:17 UTC
We got a solid eta for V2 yet?

It's going to really get things moving, I think the price will easily double.

prices are down lol

Yes, they are slightly down, just great time to buy more. Do you disagree that we will see the price at least double with V2?

And I'm not worried about the prices in terms of selling, but I watch the value of my holdings and I went heavy on this one. Broke my rules a little bit. I just can't see this one losing.

The value of a coin is decided against what it is, compared to all the other coins out there. In a sense. There more to it and that a generalization, dont get me wrong. But there is a lot of truth to it, and this one stacks up real nice to the others.

The league that this coin is in, has coins that are valued much higher than Neos right now. That's just how I see it.

I broke my rules with this one a little as well.

I am actually worried that this coin doesn't have *enough* coins in circulation at this point. That might sound a bit crazy, but with so few coins mined we don't have enough volume yet. Every buy or sell of size is actually causing 2000 sats swings. Hopefully some momentum will knock us past the 33K resistance but there have to be coins to actually sell at that point.

Looks like everyone is holding like a top boss. Smiley


yup like a top boss Wink

when we break 33k resistance... fireworks my friend Wink

Oh there won't be any fireworks tomorrow or the next day, but I did notice that those damn bots are running again. Sad

I really hate those bots.