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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 13/04/2018, 21:48:29 UTC
Does anyone know if ccminer is able to support monero's algo change?
More importantly, shouldn't Monero be moved out of the Cryptonight autoswitch now that it is not using the base cryptonight? Whenever my miner auto-switches to it and monero is being mined, I get difficulty too low errors because of the algo settings mismatch.

Probably could use some additional coins. I'd suggest Garlicoin, but they have their own algo and it wouldn't really fit in with the others.
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Re: [ANN] Bela - Mission: Make Cryptos Simple [Poloniex Listed]
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OdinYggd
on 22/02/2018, 22:11:46 UTC
Belacam.com is the current open beta site, BelacamG.com is the Gamma test site. BelacamG.com is currently in closed Gamma testing (100 people who applied early), but once we open it to everyone, we will move it to Belacam.com.

Yes, Bela was once 'Bellacoin' with the unicorn logo! Times have changed!

It is indeed. I just put the address of the pool I used to operate into a block explorer and sure enough there is record of it.

Okay, so I've compiled the current wallet from source just like I used to do. It doesn't seem to be finding any peers. Is there an addnode list?

Also out of respect for the original developer, you should really fix the DNS seeding functionality. In the beginning, the developer configured the wallet to automatically receive a current list of seed nodes from the website's own DNS settings. Knowledge of how to do this seems to be turning into a lost art, with many new coins being just as lacking of a feature that has been around since before 2014.

Edit: Found a node list. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bela/#!network apparently lets you retrieve the node list those wallets are using, which worked to seed my wallet and get it syncing up.
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Re: [ANN] Bela - Misson: Make Cryptos Simple [Poloniex Listed]
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OdinYggd
on 22/02/2018, 21:12:59 UTC

Bela mining started back in 2014 when it was originally launched as 'Bellacoin.' Belacam is in open beta right now at Belacam.com, but the site is buggy and deposits are closed. Belacam Gamma, the much better (and nearly final) version of the site will be going through a security audit before being opened up to the public, and we're extremely excited for that! The Lightning Network is Litecoin code, and we will be integrating it after our hard fork to update Bela's code to match Litecoin's.

Mine at http://Minebela.com

So is this the very same Bellacoin blockchain that used to have a Unicorn logo? In its very beginnings, I operated a pool for it. Maybe I should get back into it.
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Re: Pool software for solo mining
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OdinYggd
on 25/12/2017, 16:50:31 UTC
You could just install a typical MPOS pool and restrict access to it so that only your own miners are able to use it. Would probably be easier than trying to monkey with oddball software that might not be well supported.

Many mining software packages also have the ability to connect directly to a wallet RPC and mine using that wallet without a stratum. If you only have one mining rig being connected, this might be the way to go.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 25/12/2017, 16:34:20 UTC
Anyone else expirienced huge reward drop yesterday??

Reward yesterday was abnormally high to begin with. Typically the nvidia-equalized profitability that I watch has a top coin between 0.2 and 0.4. Something happened to Digibyte, probably a pump, that drove its profitability up to 0.7.

Edit: Just refreshed and Digibyte-Skein is again at 0.7 profitability.

hello -

i am planning to get either a rx580 8gb/1070/1070ti

i already have a 1050ti on multipoolminer getting me about 1.50-2.00 a day, but i might return it for one of the three cards

what GPU/algo combo will get me to mine the most number of coins ? im not concerned with profitability.  I just want to accumulate maximum # coins (in hopes one of them will go up like the next bitcoin and i'll be holding at least hundreds of coins...yea, i know its a stretch but one can dream).

The way I do it is  Iset up the cards to make use of the algo auto-switch and then convert to the coin I want to keep. After a couple weeks I'll switch to a different coin and withdraw that instead. Or alternately, sell the coin the pool produced and buy another target that the exchange lists but the pool does not.

This worked really well for Goldblocks and for Siacoin, but at the moment I am in between coin picks on what I should accumulate.

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Re: [ANN] ccminer 2.2.2 - opensource - GPL (tpruvot)
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OdinYggd
on 21/12/2017, 17:17:11 UTC
Wow, Debian 9 is proving to be a real headache. Maybe its time to stop using Debian.

Anyway, is support for cuda 9.1 at least functional if not complete? Apparently CUDA9 doesn't have some of the header files that it expects when compiled.

Installing Cuda 8 is complicated by the fact that Debian 9 ships GCC 6 instead GCC 5, again breaking compatibility.

Maybe I should just reinstall with something other than Debian.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 18/12/2017, 14:14:37 UTC
Regarding stratum minimum difficulty, I was wondering about that. Though to some extent having it higher reduces the pool's operating expenses, it also makes it more difficult for low hashrate miners to get shares.

Cryptonight in particular, this actually makes a significant difference- since you can in fact CPU mine this with a reasonable profit, it would be nice if the minimum difficulty was a little bit lower in order to let people trying to get good results.

Was just playing with the tunings on my new Ryzen7 1700x. Its up to 260hash/s, while my old 750ti only gets 130 hash/s on cryptonight. But the stratum difficulty remains so high even after running for quite a while that it seems to only rarely submit shares.

I noticed that too last night.  Its ridiculously high on Cryptonight.  It doesn't adjust fast enough either.


The other thing I need to figure out is how to do per-card settings in ccminer. When mining cryptonight on the card that the OS is using, it gets some pretty hardcore graphics lag.

Plus my current setup is a GTX 750ti + a GTX 1060, ideally I should tune each card to its best hashrate- or at least tune the 750ti to not lag while the 1060 runs as fast as it is capable of.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 17/12/2017, 19:37:38 UTC
Regarding stratum minimum difficulty, I was wondering about that. Though to some extent having it higher reduces the pool's operating expenses, it also makes it more difficult for low hashrate miners to get shares.

Cryptonight in particular, this actually makes a significant difference- since you can in fact CPU mine this with a reasonable profit, it would be nice if the minimum difficulty was a little bit lower in order to let people trying to get good results.

Was just playing with the tunings on my new Ryzen7 1700x. Its up to 260hash/s, while my old 750ti only gets 130 hash/s on cryptonight. But the stratum difficulty remains so high even after running for quite a while that it seems to only rarely submit shares.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 14/12/2017, 15:33:19 UTC
Why not say 'support in forum only' - or create a separate forum thread for support issues...
People don't read the FAQs. Nor do they want to wait, they want answers and they want them now. Its a big job for one person, and no matter how you approach it there will be people complaining.

Just do the best you can, I've been mining on MPH for some months now and recently began upgrading my mining rigs to be even more profitable than before. According to a few sample runs I've made, I'm actually getting a higher payout than Nicehash says my rig would have produced. A little extra effort in setting up and tuning goes a long way, but all the people spoiled by nicehash's automation don't really know how to set a miner and are complaining about having to do things the old fashioned way.


Got email from admin telling me that  my siacoin sent to bittrex is gone cause of their wallet.

4days of mining gone. just left MPH for good.

Hi
I'm miningpoolhub op.

I didn't answer that kind of message.
You siacoin is not lost. It will come back when bittrex enables siacoin wallet.

I posted a link to r/siacoin a page or so ago with details of what is going on. The gist of it is that Bittrex's wallet cannot handle the transaction volume currently going on, and rather than risk severe data corruption and loss of coin they have opted to suspend wallet operations temporarily until the siacoin dev team can provide a solution. There should be an updated siacoin wallet out in a few days, and more to come once fixes for bittrex are released.

Might be worth updating the pool announcement regarding siacoin with this info and the reddit link, that way people aren't left wondering.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 14/12/2017, 01:53:43 UTC
Found some info regarding the notice that Siacoin is unable to auto-exchange due to a wallet problem at bittrex:

https://www.reddit.com/r/siacoin/comments/7jf33l/sia_sc_2_days_wallet_maintenance_on_bittrex_is/dr65kfq/

Seems that the current siacoin wallet has performance problems when dealing with larger transaction volumes, and has been taken offline pending a fix from the devs.

This same issue could pop up on MPH, so there will be an updated wallet soon containing fixes.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 13/12/2017, 22:44:56 UTC
Miners that do their own algo profitability calculations should use the fixed algo coin switching ports (17xxx).

Miners that want to use MPH's algo profitability switch should use the 12xxx port numbers, with the mining software configured to cycle through a list of algos in response to the worker authentication being rejected by the pool. Like so a given set of worker credentials will only be valid on the most profitable algo of the selected list.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 13/12/2017, 18:29:00 UTC
I'm curious myself what is happening over at Bittrex that has kept the sia wallet offline for so long. And now the expanse wallet is down too, I was going to use that as a backup. Its just a temporary inconvenience that the coins cannot be exchanged and the profits paid out to you right away. If that is such a big deal, then select a different coin to pay out as- or only mine the coin you want and pay that out to a local wallet instead of relying on automated coin exchanging systems.

Unless something really messed up happened, all of your profits should be perfectly safe as coins waiting to be converted or converted coins waiting to return to the pool and be paid out.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 13/12/2017, 00:07:43 UTC
With PPLNS penalising pool jumping, does MPH have any minimum delays before switching coins?  e.g. I'm mining lyra2re2 currently and it seems to switch between mona and vtc a lot.  Is there any way of disabling a coin?  i.e. I'd like to disable vtc for now.

I've been told at least that it only switches off of a coin when a block is found, that way PPLNS pays out the submitted shares and avoids having losses from switching too often.

Just tried out that different ccminer version, and yes it does make a difference. 28MH/s to 29.2MH/s on my rig.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
by
OdinYggd
on 10/12/2017, 21:59:20 UTC
Well, I just rechecked profitability on my rig, and the actual 24h profitability is in fact 30% higher than Nicehash's calculator said my rig should be capable of- using stock clocks and card setups even. The whole time the pool has reported hashrates lower than the miner does, on Lyra2re2 its around 25MH according to the pool when ccminer says 28 MH/s.

With that in mind, the rig's numbers are probably correct, and the pool gauges are just sloppy due to the amount of averaging going on behind the scenes. Profit switching does not do the gauges any favors, since they take so long to reach a steady state again after the miner changes algos.

People just need to be patient is all. Profitability varies over time, you can't just take a snapshot. Have to let it run several hours or even several days to get a good picture of how profitable it will be.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 10/12/2017, 21:45:34 UTC
Hello, my miner is running Linux.

Is it possible to use Multialgo switching?

I looked at the software in the FAQ:

https://miningpoolhub.com/index.php?page=gettingstarted

And it all looks to be Windows only

Thanks

EDIT: I tried to register and it won't let me. The 'register' button just does nothing after putting in my info!

Here's my configuration for multialgo on Linux. This takes the form of a .sh file, with miner software built from the git repos in the respective folders: Currently ccminer_T for tpruvot and ccminer_K for KlausT, others are possible just give them their own folder.  Algos that are commented out still have issues with my configuration, feel free to test and repair them as you see fit.

Code:
#! /bin/bash
while true
do
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12001 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a keccac -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12003 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a groestl -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12004 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a myr-gr -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12005 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a x11 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12007 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12012 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a qubit -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12014 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a skein -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12016 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12018 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
#./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a ethash -o stratum+tcp://us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:12020 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
#./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a yescypt -o stratum+tcp://us-east.yescrypt-hub.miningpoolhub.com:12021 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
#./ccminer_K/ccminer -r 0 -a sia -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12022 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a equihash -o stratum+tcp://us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:12023 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://us-east.cryptonight-hub.miningpoolhub.com:12024 -u OdinYggd.x -p x
./ccminer_T/ccminer --max-temp=85 -r 0 -a lyra2z -o stratum+tcp://us-east.lyra2z-hub.miningpoolhub.com:12025 -u OdinYggd.x -p x

done

Don't forget to change my username and password to yours. While I appreciate the contributions, you probably want your profits. You then set the account default job to mine the algos that you have support for, and let it do its thing.

Once you have your miner running, you can then use MPH's auto exchange functions to trade the coins you don't want for the coins that you do want. All of the wallet handling and everything is done for you, you just need to provide a wallet address to send the coins that you want to keep to.

To keep track of profitability, go to the wallet for the coin that you are auto exchanging to and look at 24 hour profitability. Mind you this data takes 24 hours to be even close to accurate, but it shows you clearly just how much you made in the past 24 hours.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 10/12/2017, 17:13:15 UTC
Hello,
I am a new user of MPM with MPH.
The estimated profitability by MPM is 0.00052 BTC/day. I waited 3 days to get a fair estimate but it shows 0.00087 BTC in my balance( auto exchanged to BTC ). It is about half of the estimated profitability. Is it normal? Am I doing something wrong? I followed the readme instructions.
Thanks


Hi, I'm new too and been mining on MPH for 5 days. I could be wrong but this is what I've observed.

Are you using auto profit switching? For me I found that focusing on mining one coin/day is better. You'll get your share when the pool found the block. MPH seems to switch often these days (thanks to the fluctuation of bitcoin price).

For each coins, the pool may solved 10 blocks+ per hour, or solved only 4 blocks or less per hour depend on luck. In a worse case, it could be just only one block or none. If your MPH happened switched to its coin of choice during "bad time" you'll get less profit.

You can check block stat on each coin's statistic.

I would say, better choose your coin manually if you do not have powerful rig. Last night I tried autoswitch for just curiosity, the thing switched to FTC 7 times during last night, spent 3 hours in total to mine FTC (average 25 min per switch) and all I got was only 0.4 FTC.

Are you two paying out to btc? Unless you have a lot of mining power, its probably best to avoid btc or eth payouts. These two networks have problems with high fee rates and slow transactions. The high fees are hurting your profitability pretty badly. Instead use an altcoin to move your money to the exchange, and let the btc accumulate there a while before withdrawing. That way you aren't paying $12 transaction fees to move $20.

Profitability for my rig seems to be right on the ballpark.

Also, not using the auto switches does have a disadvantage- when a particular pool switches off of an algo or coin, there is a rapid decrease in that pool's hashpower. With said decrease, the block win rate decreases too. So even though you might proportionally get more of each found block, blocks are found less often and the total profitability may not be any better than just using the auto switches.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
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OdinYggd
on 09/12/2017, 22:39:26 UTC
I have a port question when using AwesomeMiner + Mining Pool Hub + 1060 rigs

Is the configuration supposed to use 17xxx (Algo switch mining) or 12xxx (Multi-algo switch mining) ports?

Miningpoolhub indicates 17XXX is best for asics whereas 12XXX is best for GPUS. When I go through the default configuration through AwesomeMiner it automatically sets up each algorithm with 17XXX though that seems incorrect.

Thoughts?

Ex:For LyraREv2

stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:17018
or
stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12018

See: https://miningpoolhub.com/index.php?page=gettingstarted

Both are valid, here's the difference:

Port numbers of 17xxx will always mine the specified algo, but may change what coin is actually being mined.
Port numbers of 12xxx are auto switch ports, and are turned on and off at MPH by the algo profitability switching. A miner connected here will be disconnected when that algo is not currently profitable.

You can try contacting MPH operator directly. Hes easy to talk to but has been really busy lately. Try him on email or skype.

Its not really that important to me at least, merely a nusiance issue. The actual profitability compares favorably to the theoretical values, so the gauge is just a nice thing to make sure its all still working.

2. On the Zcoin Dashboard, I can see the Recent Credits for the past few days.
On 2017-12-08 it was noticeably lower, at about 1020AM UTC, I stopped receiving shares. At about 1220PM I received the email "no shares from worker in 10min". I logged in via TV and it was running as expected. But the shares only resumed at about 0930PM UTC.

How can I debug this? My Monero miner was still going strong, so it cannot be the network connection.

I think this was a pool issue last night, since my 24h profitability is about half of what I was expecting. There were some website issues last night, and a database issue as well that resulted in shares not being credited.

Lets see if it continues happening, or if the pool operator finds and fixes an issue.
...

I closed my miner 10 mins ago. The zcoin dashboard went from 800h/s to 1.1kH/s.....  "Hashrate based on shares submitted in the past 5 minutes." Im not sure what's going on here. These stats make no sense... Cry


I think the dashboard gauge has a significant amount of time weighted averaging going on, it seems to take quite a while to reflect changes in miner output and never catches up 100%. Every time I look at it I find some weird number from 0 to hashrate.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
by
OdinYggd
on 09/12/2017, 22:04:47 UTC
I am mining vertcoin and i have 31 mh/s but on website it shows 15mh/s and highest it shows 26mh/s.
I am not submitting any bad share so why does it not show actual hashrate? Also vertcoin mining takes long time to show any info. Anyone can help?

I had this problem with older versions of ccminer. I recently switched to v2.2.3.

https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases

The program reports a lower hashrate than other versions of ccminer, but the pool reports a much higher one. Keep in mind pool reported hashrate varies and can take a long time to show changes. But with the newer miner it actually reports the correct hashrate once in awhile. Not always half or less.

I'm observing reported hashrates significantly below miner values even with tpruvot ccminer 2.2.3. Usually it will show around 25Mh/s in worker stats for 28MH/s working, but at times it will report lower values.

The dashboard gauge seems to have a lot of averaging going on, because when I looked at it a few hours ago it only said 2 MH/s but some time later had corrected itself up to 24 MH/s.



As for being able to customize the auto switching a little to factor in things like capabilities and power consumption, that would be an amazing feature. Depending on what language it is in, I'd be willing to help make it happen.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
by
OdinYggd
on 09/12/2017, 19:51:07 UTC
2. On the Zcoin Dashboard, I can see the Recent Credits for the past few days.
On 2017-12-08 it was noticeably lower, at about 1020AM UTC, I stopped receiving shares. At about 1220PM I received the email "no shares from worker in 10min". I logged in via TV and it was running as expected. But the shares only resumed at about 0930PM UTC.

How can I debug this? My Monero miner was still going strong, so it cannot be the network connection.

I think this was a pool issue last night, since my 24h profitability is about half of what I was expecting. There were some website issues last night, and a database issue as well that resulted in shares not being credited.

Lets see if it continues happening, or if the pool operator finds and fixes an issue.

Hello.
I am trying to use profit switching.
I selected the following profile in "Hub workers":
NVIDIA - Cryptonight, Equihash, Groestl, Lyra2RE2, Myriad-Groestl, NeoScrypt, Skein
Even if Vertcoin looks the more profitable, under "auto switches" it mines BTG, so the profit switching helper starts the equihash miner.
I am missing something, but I can't find it.

I'm getting the impression that the auto switches are not just controlled by profitability, since my miner is also mining equihash (BTG) right now instead of Lyra2RE2(Vertcoin). Its likely that since there are multiple switches, only some of them are switched in situations where two algos have a very similar profitability. Switching everything at once would have such a large difficulty impact on the target networks that they would very quickly become less profitable, and end up switching endlessly back and forth between them.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.
by
OdinYggd
on 09/12/2017, 19:08:37 UTC
So, free advice that you maybe did not want:  take it easy, relax, mine one coin at one time, and set target payout low (and frequent).  

"A 0.0003 BTC TX fee will apply" (4.29 US) That shit will add up quick if you set it low n' frequent.

Define 'frequent'.

I've had good results for a very long time now with the auto withdraw set to values that make it pay out roughly once a day- and I don't have it withdrawing btc, I am paying out to other coins that have much lower transaction fees.

What you want to avoid is having the miner run for weeks on end without removing the profits from the pool, because those profits end up at risk of being lost if the pool is ever attacked or experiences data corruption.

Figure withdraw every 1-2 days at least to minimize risk of a major loss while simultaneously being conservative about it to reduce how much profit is lost to transaction fees.

According to whattomine, with my rig I should getting 4.7418 VTC a day but the best I did is 2.84989422.
I have 375.91 MH, but on miningpoolhub dashboard best i get is 226MH.
there's some problem obvious, i guess I will be forced to switch to suprnova

I think there were some problems during the night that caused the pool to go down: Source.  Give it another day or two and see what happens. My 24 hour profitability when I looked this morning was barely half of what it had been Friday morning, making me think there was downtime or something and lost profits.