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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 22/05/2014, 02:09:53 UTC

http://cryptome.org/2014/05/weev-duns-usg-28296btc.htm

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I am owed 28,296 Bitcoins. I do not accept United States dollars, as it is the preferred currency of criminal organizations such as the FBI, DOJ, ATF, and Federal Reserve and I do not assist criminal racketeering enterprises.

So, would you like to speculate on his chances of actually getting his invoice paid?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 21/05/2014, 06:26:12 UTC
Bat shit crazy!  Where's the volume?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 14/05/2014, 06:10:26 UTC
Is it not obvious that without FRESH FIAT (I think I am going to change my user name to this) that these markets cannot go up? And there is no way for fresh fiat to reach the Chinese exchanges.

And if the markets don't go up (and we all should be fully prepared for the market to meander right on past the cross point of this multi-month wedge that everyone's talking about) then the markets are all SITTING DUCKS to bad news coming out of China - like an exchange(s) closing, etc.

Buying here is ridiculous. Shorting isn't a great idea either - although you can often borrow it for almost free, just in case.

The China bad news had been priced in. No more CNY into exchanges through bank deposit. Minor exchanges had closed. I can't think of any more China news worse than what we already knew, can you? If no more bad news, where will the price go?

If the bots on Stamp and BTC-e are still programmed to follow Huobi, the price can certainly go down.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 11/05/2014, 19:16:26 UTC
tl;dr;bilae
(too long; don’t read; but informative links at end)

So, now what?  I’ve been studying the tealeaves without result.  I intended to stir some chicken entrails with my long stick but the dog ate them first.  No result.  My fav TA analysts show slightly different interpretations.  Mixed results, mostly lower for an undetermined period, with chances for breakout at ‘some future date’.  Trying to gauge sentiment consensus on here is about like the tea leaves.  No consensus.

I’ve already written that I stopped my day trading activities a few months ago.  I’m now trying to figure out what would be my requirements to re-enter that fun and frustrating arena.  Before I can do that, I have to revisit my reasons to stop trading and pull my btc back.

Sometime in Nov or Dec, I was goxxed twice.  Moved my coins to BTC-e because… speed of that transaction.  Had fun and an increase in coins, trading the peaks and valleys on the way down from ATH.  Then a combination of international events (Senor Putin, China-Japan, China-Philippines, Karpeles-MtSux fiasco, etc.) caused me to reexamine my hole cards.  Then, the realization that coins on an exchange under my control was an illusion.  The control rests with the exchange owner/operator.
 
Therefore, to begin active trading again, I need a reliable exchange.  One that is transparent and honest.  How to judge those requirements?  No clue.  Absent reliable, transparent, and honest, I would need to see a rising trend in coin price.  Stagnant, $20 daily swings, and steady drips to the bottom, just won’t get it for me.  Even with suspect exchanges, I would resume trading on a sustained up trend by removing and depositing coins as needed, a practice that would limit profits, but one that would be much less risky.

While these thoughts have come and gone these last few months, a couple of articles came to my attention.  The first, although I think misnamed, sets out the reasons that alt coins that are substantially clones of bitcoin are doomed to failure (Doge, your days are numbered).  Read here if interested:  Bitcoin suicide

The second article, if true and accurate, (and if you like…extreme conspiracy theory) sets out the reasons why bitcoin will not be the denomination of the world economy.  Warning!  Subversive literature aimed straight at the flag waving fanatics:  World economics, forever out of your control

For the near future, I’m holding my stash.  Waiting for an uptrend that begs to be traded, fiat available on two days notice.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 08/05/2014, 07:24:46 UTC
can someone explain me why BTC-e has lower price for proximately 10$ than Bitstamp or Huobi ?

anybody ?
I'm more nobody than anybody, but it seems like the range for BTC-e has been about 8-15 $ lower than Stamp for some time now.  It varies for no reason known to me.

I traded there for a while, but never tried to deposit or withdraw $.  BTC in and BTC out.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 05/05/2014, 07:20:13 UTC
2660 is still holding as support on Houbi.

And by support, I mean in the way a 100 year old draw string bridge with 30% of its wood flooring missing acts as support.

Poetic, windy.  Gave me visions of an old Tarzan movie.  He fell in and had to wrestle a croc.  Watch your step.   Grin

This market is just DYING for some bad news. It can't even keep itself up in anticipation of it. We are just going to drift lower, bouncing at 2650, 2600, 2555 and going back up each time, until we get some bad news to flush all this out.

Its like a leak in a bucket right now. It reminds me of the Gox situation, where we had like 9 daily red candles in a row, none of them big, just a slow mundane sell off, until finally the big news came.

Ya.  I'm pretty pessimistic about our current situation.  I know that all trends will eventually reverse (or maybe not), but I think the 1w and 3d trend says about all there is to say right now.

** Pessimism is a state of mind in which one anticipates undesirable outcomes.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 05/05/2014, 07:00:47 UTC
2660 is still holding as support on Houbi.

And by support, I mean in the way a 100 year old draw string bridge with 30% of its wood flooring missing acts as support.

Poetic, windy.  Gave me visions of an old Tarzan movie.  He fell in and had to wrestle a croc.  Watch your step.   Grin
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 04/05/2014, 06:44:52 UTC
Watch out below!
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 03/05/2014, 07:50:52 UTC
There is certainly something going on.  I'm too tired to stay up and see it live.   Undecided
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 03/05/2014, 07:36:32 UTC
Wowzer!  Now that's what I call a Dump.  What's up, Stamp?

edit:  I dunno.  Might be a glitch on BitcoinWisdom.

edit 2:  confirmed glitch... It showed over 11k until I refreshed.  Whew.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 02/05/2014, 18:31:31 UTC
I imagine that arbitrage should be particularly lucrative for exchange owners, especially if they collude.  

I have always assumed that BFX and stamp are arbing the book before it opens.  This is standard practice in U.S. equity markets:  Orders are first matched in-house, only then on exchange.  Most HFT is just the attempt to approximate this at the exchange tier, in a competitive, rather than a cooperative environment.  HFT arbs are present on all computerized markets that I am aware of.


I think that what you have outlined is a safe assumption.  And, it confirms my biases perfectly.

That assumption, coupled with my very strong suspicion that the exchanges are trading for their own profit with users assets, and my belief that the exchange operators employ those pesky automated trade bots that keep posting fractional asks and offers simply to keep up the appearance of trading activity, are the reasons I closed my trading account on Feb 17 @ 547.

The six months of trading left me with more BTC than I began with, so it's OK.  My perception of the dangers of continued trading was not OK.  I'll just wait.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 01/05/2014, 03:46:36 UTC
Lookin good but need to see that bid sum start rising before I'll believe this is anything other than a bull trap.

If Tera is right with his TA (I don't know either way) this could be the prelude to the drop.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 01/05/2014, 03:37:47 UTC
New update from OKCoin (2014-05-01 08:46:08)

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RE: CCB "Declaration on the Prohibition of the use of my bank account for Bitcoin transactions."

Hello, my colleagues have been responsible for the company and related verified. No problem, our account hasn't been cancelled. Please rest assured
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It looks like banks have put the statement online without cancelling a single account. All exchanges still allowing fiat deposits as usual.
Find specific accounts being used for bitcoin trading and then cancelling them is a task ahead of them that they have to do work for and perform. However, it is easy to simply post a statement. The May 10 deadline I believe is just a deadline to make statements and not actually close accounts.

I hope not. That would launch BTC to the moon again on May 10th

I doubt that.  More likely it would mean more of the same crap until the next 'deadline'.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 01/05/2014, 03:35:30 UTC
Ok, i'm giving everyone thumbs up to start buying. My crystall ball says it's time.

(Edit: please noobs, i no nothing more than anyone else, just messing around).

My crystal ball sees Bitcoin-Central as the next exchange to go belly-up. And, for those you love pork bellies or, for that matter, underage boys' bellies, here's another reason I suggest holding off buying for now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590970.0

Paymium's davout, Boussac and Grandval will soon be in damage control mode, meanwhile the media will be all over the paedo- who'll be at the helm of Mt Coxs. Looks like another busy week.

What?

Yes, What?  I don't know the personalities you write about.  A Cliff's notes version would be nice for me.

Looks like some personal witch hunt to me that won't affect the price whatsoever.

Yup.  Sounds the same to me.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 01/05/2014, 03:33:33 UTC
+1
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 01/05/2014, 03:14:29 UTC
Ok, i'm giving everyone thumbs up to start buying. My crystall ball says it's time.

(Edit: please noobs, i no nothing more than anyone else, just messing around).

My crystal ball sees Bitcoin-Central as the next exchange to go belly-up. And, for those you love pork bellies or, for that matter, underage boys' bellies, here's another reason I suggest holding off buying for now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590970.0

Paymium's davout, Boussac and Grandval will soon be in damage control mode, meanwhile the media will be all over the paedo- who'll be at the helm of Mt Coxs. Looks like another busy week.

What?

Yes, What?  I don't know the personalities you write about.  A Cliff's notes version would be nice for me.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 01/05/2014, 03:05:21 UTC
I could completely wrong, it is likely that I am, but I think that there are a large number of automated traders on both Bitstamp and BTC-e.  Some while ago these bot-users determined that the Chinese markets could/would serve as nice triggers for the other exchanges.  ++ for a long while it was Gox that served up similar triggers ++

In our increasingly nervous market the bots detect a movement on, say, Houbi and automatically follow suit.  That combination is enough for human traders to climb on the bandwagon and reinforce the initial move.  Then the more rational/reasoned traders counter-move and the initial trajectory is reversed.  

I believe that these oscillations will continue until: 1.  There is no 'other market' that serves up a trigger; or, 2.  Confidence is regained, the nervous market ends, and a true vector forms.

$0.02
Or another possibility: market makers selling BTC short.

I didn't mention whether they were going long or short.  Just that the bots seemed to be following Huobi on the initial movement.

edit:  this latest move appears to have started on Stamp.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 01/05/2014, 02:36:29 UTC
I could completely wrong, it is likely that I am, but I think that there are a large number of automated traders on both Bitstamp and BTC-e.  Some while ago these bot-users determined that the Chinese markets could/would serve as nice triggers for the other exchanges.  ++ for a long while it was Gox that served up similar triggers ++

In our increasingly nervous market the bots detect a movement on, say, Houbi and automatically follow suit.  That combination is enough for human traders to climb on the bandwagon and reinforce the initial move.  Then the more rational/reasoned traders counter-move and the initial trajectory is reversed. 

I believe that these oscillations will continue until: 1.  There is no 'other market' that serves up a trigger; or, 2.  Confidence is regained, the nervous market ends, and a true vector forms.

$0.02
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 28/04/2014, 08:04:03 UTC
...snip...
I don't think that opening accounts on exchanges outside China would be easy for a typical Chinese small businessman.  Doing that sort of thing would require familiarity with the bitcoin technology and markets, not likely for such people.
...snip again...

I wonder, then, how arb is supposed to be working for the Chinese exchanges?
There should not be many traders doing arbitrage; it does not seem to be a game for amateurs.  Arbitragers could be people with a commercial foot on each side of the border, e.g. import-export firms; or partnerships between Chinese and non-Chinese traders.

The scenario I was considering is when neither A nor B are regular bitcoin traders, just (say) a businessman who wants to bribe a government official in another town, and learns that there is a relatively safe way to do it using bitcoin.

Yes.  I edited my question.  Thanks.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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OldGeek
on 28/04/2014, 08:01:19 UTC
Sounds really good.  Except for those who might relish their anonymity‎:
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Xapo complies with U.S. law by requiring its customers to provide proof of residency and identification before they can open an account.