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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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on 05/09/2025, 09:09:22 UTC
I think people prefer holding bitcoin and spending stablecoins, but there is a chance once day government won't allow them to spend BTC in future if they are not ''appoved'' by them.
If you didn't notice many big tech companies also started their own stablecoins, even Trump clown, and that tells you something.
I personally don't trust any stablecoin, especially not for holding.
I wouldn't trust any stables either. As for Bitcoin I'm surprised that LN isn't used more.



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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 02/09/2025, 11:15:56 UTC
I saw this on Reddit  Smiley
Therefore, they would rather exert private pressure than improve their business practices. There is no need to waste words on the lack of desire to solve scam accusations against them here.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1n3ymrb/comment/nbhi6id/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I should start charging them per message like some egirls are doing Cheesy



Stats for August

Stats for searches on OrangeFren.com in August👀

Why is Bitcoin below 25%? Why are people moving to USDC?

XMR: 42.76%
BTC: 24.73%
LTC: 7.82%
ETH: 7.33%
USDT: 5.76%
USDC: 2.73%
SOL: 1.84%
ZEC: 1.09%
BTCLN: 1.06%
TRX: 0.55%
DOGE: 0.41%
ZANO: 0.33%
XRP: 0.32%
DAI: 0.32%
FIRO: 0.26%
BNB: 0.22%
BCH: 0.17%
ADA: 0.15%

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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 26/08/2025, 21:47:53 UTC
⭐ Merited by dkbit98 (1)
Based on stats from our users FF demands personal information for roughly 1 in 10 000 ~ 20 000 swaps.
How would actually you know if someone is asked by FF to complete KYC verification, and they do that without informing you?
That 1 guy in 20 000 swaps is someone who complained and maybe they didn't want to comply with FF demands.



Maybe this new aggregator could be interesting for OrangeFren, I think it was made by someone from PeachBitcoin:
https://p2p.band/
It's based on users of OrangeFren.com who complained and any user of Intercambio.app that was asked for extra info. We no longer have FF listed on Intercambio, because they required us to start logging and we declined.

I'll check it out!
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 25/08/2025, 23:27:12 UTC
⭐ Merited by LoyceV (1)
We have a warning Smiley
I would not agree that FF is ''Rarely'' asking from users to send them personal documents.
There are new reports against them all the time, more than for any other swap exchange.
Based on stats from our users FF demands personal information for roughly 1 in 10 000 ~ 20 000 swaps.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 24/08/2025, 22:07:25 UTC
⭐ Merited by examplens (1)
FixedFloat supports LN, it seems not from the website.
Our currency support table is dynamic and refreshes every few minutes. If FF isn't shown as supporting LN then it's because they briefly disabled it Smiley

+1 for this suggestion.
In addition to KYC, they may also require proof of SoF (source of funds). I really wouldn't risk getting into a situation where I explain to Fixedfloat the sources of my coins.
I guess they are generous in the affiliate program, so that is the reason why they are promoted on many platforms.
They have by far the worst affiliate program as far as we're concerned, because they have the lowest fees. However, they are a favourite for most people.

On that note, I wish more services had LN. eXch was a very attractive alternative to FF, because they had LN and just as low fees, while having no KYC.

Orangefren guarantees for FF in some part. It would be good to get an explanation in which exact cases the user can refer to this guarantee. For example, can I ask for refund coins instead of passing KYC, and that OF will guarantee me for such a thing
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Your trade is fully protected against this service scamming you.
Good suggestion. I'll make sure we clarify it. And no, only if a never-KYC service demands KYC from you will we cover.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 19/08/2025, 10:08:44 UTC
⭐ Merited by dkbit98 (1) ,examplens (1)
This is a good idea, but it appears there is some color bug (or intention) showing red color instead of green for almost empty blocks.
I know this is only visual and it's not a big deal, but I saw something strange and compared it with main mempool.space website.
You can see this in screenshots posted below:

 
It's intentional. I think OrangeFren decided to use two completely different color themes, while mempool.space just used different shades of green to represent the zones. According to my understanding, the transactions in the "unconfirmed blocks" or mempool are divided into two. Those that have a fee rate of 1 sat/vbyte and above represented by green, and those that have a fee rate of less than 1 sat/vbyte to zero represented by Red.
You're right about the colours, but it wasn't intentional. This is a bug from the latest release of mempool.space and the official instance fixed it. We could fix it too, but it does fit quite well, because most nodes and miners won't accept <1sat/vB txs, so they are a bit risky to rely on.

That said, we made sure our node is connected to other <1sat/vB nodes, so if you want to broadcast such a tx you can do so here: https://mempool.orangefren.com/tx/push and it ought to reach the miners that accept such txs.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 17/08/2025, 17:38:32 UTC
⭐ Merited by ovcijisir (1)
[...] I would like to know beforehand what would happen if they would freeze my funds during exchange?
How long would I have to wait to get to my funds and how would you clarify if they really try to scam me or they froze my funds legitimately?
Usually they'll ask questions about who you are, where you live, how you obtained the coins you sent them and proofs for all of the above. Generally all of this takes about a week. Whenever such cases are reported to us we always request FF send us whatever proof they have on their end that the coins they got were tainted.

Hi Orangefren, I just wanted to ask a few questions about your service. In next few months I plan to exchange my funds from stablecoin to BTC and I would like to use your service.

I saw that FixedFloat has best exchange rates in my case, and also that you offer guarantee against them scamming.
If you're planning on swapping a large sum with FixedFloat, and are not in a hurry, then please consider reaching out to me or our customer support and we can generally get a prescreening from FF to ensure a guaranteed no-KYC from them. By that I mean they'll check your address before you deposit. This takes a few days to do usually and it's a courtesy on their end for us and our users so they can always decline doing it, but so far they've always done so.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 14/08/2025, 09:48:51 UTC
I'm not sure what the ultimate goal is to have something like this on an exchange aggregator, but I welcome any initiative for improvement. Otherwise, it seems that it does not show relevant information, it is quite different from what is on the real mempool




As for the link to the hosting service that you set up, according to the rules of the forum, it is not allowed to leave affiliate & referral links in the post
The purpose is that we very often need to find some tx to do arbitration between a user and an exchange. So far we've used external block explorers, but now we'll be using our own trusted ones.

We'll get the sub-1-sat txs asap.

Thanks for point out the ref link - removed.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 06/08/2025, 18:28:44 UTC
⭐ Merited by dkbit98 (1)
Reviews
You can now leave a review for a service you used on OrangeFren.com. We will start displaying the reviews once we've collected a few.
I wanted to check this out and write some reviews fir services I use, but your websites is not accessible for me.
This is not browsers related because I tried opening with different browsers, and results are the same.
Maybe you are also getting DDoS attacked like many other crypto related services.

OrangeFren onion links is working fine at the moment:
Code:
http://rnwis2whetqcj4oknksnc5l24jbh33nflunifff3xtjjonnoxu3ld6id.onion/

You should add official onion link in first post of this topic.
Apologies. Yes, we've been DDoSed a bit today and they manage to knock OrangeFren.com offline briefly. We should be online once more.
Thanks for the suggestion regarding the onion!
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
by
OrangeFren
on 28/07/2025, 14:36:38 UTC
⭐ Merited by examplens (1) ,dkbit98 (1)
As far as I remember, at the beginning of eXch, the fee for XMR trade was below 2%. Later, they raised it to 5+%, after XMR was delisted from many big CEX, so eXch was one of the few options that offered XMR in any relation and that led to a great demand for this coin on their service.
Also, there is a matter that has already been discussed here in recent days. An exchanger can represent a very low service fee, and at the same time have completely different relations in the real offer.
For example, I always check other alternatives, hence the note that MB was a bit more expensive.
Initially, I think the rate was even better (0.5%). But after the XMR delistings they changed where they got their rate and started using Bisq as an oracle.

The rates we show on our homepage are relative to CoinGecko. Of course an exchange might be lying about their rate, but in that case we take action against them. Nowadays the best service, if you value a Tor mirror, no JS, and a promise never to KYC the users tends to Xchange.me.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 25/07/2025, 07:35:38 UTC
A lot of very valuable services have shut down recently. AgoraDesk, eXch, now Majestic Bank.
Majestic Bank definitely had their issues, but they'll still be missed.
As far as I remember, rates at Majesticbank were not very competitive and their fee was significantly higher compared to some other 'small' swap services. I remembered them because I was always the first to reject their offer.
It's certainly a shame if an established service shuts down
Interesting. Majestic Bank used to have a much better rate than other never-KYC, no JS, Tor mirror, type services. Their base fee was 2%. eXch for instance started at 5.5% for anyone buying XMR. Xchange has 3.6% as of writing.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 25/07/2025, 06:59:41 UTC
I don't know anyone heard about this, but another small exchange just closed their business, this time it was MajesticBank:
https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2496
I've never seen an exit strategy like this:
Quote from: MajesticBank on GitHub
Effective of this moment MajesticBank is shutting down its services.
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MajesticBank was not created to make profit
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pending orders (sorry about that) which will be refunded with premiums ranging from 100-500 USD based on value.
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As soon as service is disintegrated, farewell donations will follow.
A lot of very valuable services have shut down recently. AgoraDesk, eXch, now Majestic Bank.
Majestic Bank definitely had their issues, but they'll still be missed.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 19/07/2025, 19:27:00 UTC
It's not ideal, but it will be very expensive to manipulate. And I think it's a better solution, than what anyone has.
Can we think of ways to manipulate it before you implement it?
We're keeping it secret for now  Wink


92% of Lightning payments we routed went through a hub

  • 2953 payments routed over 1.5 years
  • 24 channels sold to plebs
  • Fewer than 1 in 13 payments were between plebs!!
The rest? Their previous or next hop was a hub🐇

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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 14/07/2025, 13:10:20 UTC
The issue I'm concerned with is the employees of an exchange making swaps and then spamming reviews. I'm not sure how to resolve this.
That's a risk every online review site has. It's not great, but no reviews at all isn't great either.
I've come up with a solution! Thank you for the brainstorming guys! <3

It's not ideal, but it will be very expensive to manipulate. And I think it's a better solution, than what anyone has.

We'll get it implemented asap.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 14/07/2025, 12:37:48 UTC
I'm not sure how feasible it is in the case of Orangefren, but for example, Exolix has the option of adding an email address for sending order information. Only after the transaction is completed, you will receive an additional email to evaluate the service.
If nothing else, fake reviews are avoided, even for users who have not used the platform at all.
I assume that such a thing is very difficult to do as a partner aggregator.
The issue I'm concerned with is the employees of an exchange making swaps and then spamming reviews. I'm not sure how to resolve this.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 13/07/2025, 09:48:48 UTC
⭐ Merited by LoyceV (6)
Just add quick feedback with stars rating, and maybe short text, but it's not going to be easy to prevent fake reviews.
Preventing fakes is a major issue. Even if we required a valid swap ID then it's very simple for an exchange to provide however many it takes to flood the reviews.

Yes, most communities in this field industry don't enjoy lightning, who would have thought of that? Of course, what most people are used to is what they will always use.

Lightning is not talked about much anymore unless there is something new that can get the attention of the community here, the winds can still change.
There was some recent attention regarding LN when Tether announced they'll launch USDT on LN using Taproot Assets. However, I've noticed that although they happily reply to my comments praising the technology they seem not to notice any of my comments asking about whether there will be a freeze-function. Must be some weird internet issue where some comments get through, yet others do not. Maybe they're routing the comments over LN, hence why same fail to reach them.

Currently USDT has a freeze-function on all platforms except one - Liquid.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 10/07/2025, 21:37:30 UTC
⭐ Merited by examplens (1) ,dkbit98 (1)
It's no surprise for me to see BTCLN still hovering around 1%.
Same thing is happening on all other websites that accept Lightning, Bitcoin and other coins, LN is always around 1%.
We've tried so hard to promote LN though... Sponsored and helped organize the Bitcoin Film Fest, paid for Satograms to deliver ads to every LN user, we have an LN node, we sell channels from it on Amboss. We have direct channels with exchanges that support LN which we list as well as companies we often collab with (for instance Cryptosteel). The table on our homepage marks BTC, XMR, USDT and BTC on LN support for every exchange. Undecided

Adding user feedback directly on OrangeFren for listed exchange services could also be good.
Good idea. In the past we tried launching a forum, but it wasn't a success.

Maybe users should have the option to manually exclude services they don't want to use via OrangeFren.
They already have it partially implemented; they just need to expand the selection. For example, in addition to "show only never KYC", I would also add the possibility of narrowing down the selection to only those with "own liquidity". Obviously, all exchangers that use third-party liquidity at some point have a problem with KYC requirements, because it does not depend exclusively on them.
Good idea! We'll work on that.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 10/07/2025, 12:07:18 UTC
Hello @OrangeFren

I believe the issue with Hellex is still ongoing. When I perform a rate search on Orangefreen, I get this result.


all the results are diffferent.
Thank you!!!
We've removed them, this isn't acceptable.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 07/07/2025, 21:56:08 UTC
⭐ Merited by Trêvoid (1)
Hello @OrangeFren

I have encountered something with minimum order requirements.
i believe it would be helpful to display minimum order limits alongside search results, so users can immediately see if their wanted swap amount meets the requirements of each exchange.
Thank you for the report!
Our searches always take into account the mins and maxes for each service.

We've delisted Hellex and will re-add them when either they fix their responses (they previously had a good min amount field) or until we put together a conservative estimate of their min amounts ourselves.
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Re: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison
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OrangeFren
on 06/07/2025, 14:41:54 UTC
⭐ Merited by dkbit98 (1)
That makes sense. But still, dkbit98's example showed a 4.5% difference. It makes me wonder how often you check those rates.
We check rates slightly more often than once per 5 min.