Thats your good right, to believe what you like.
In my estimation, I am at least not lying much more than the average.
But its hard to quantify, I cannot proof anything.


Why that?
Because you will pass me an ass-kick in the supermarket? No, thanks, I dont like.
Or because you will go to tell everywhere, that I am a liar and not proving it too not? I dont like too not.
Its the what you seem to be intentioned to do with your menaceing attitude.

Its not an obligation, to post here revealing public any personal data.

Do you know, what a stalker is?
Its because of the stalkers, what have nothing to do than to run the whole day after the people to pester their existance. Its an illness.

And thats a reason, why it is better to keep the identity in the unknown. Other good reasons exist too. Ever heard something about an agency named NSA? And an individual named Edward Snowden? Ever thought about all the others, what make the same? Do you like to get radiated by Google in every wrinkle of the asshole? Thats why some mean its clevermore, not to walk around with the trousers down.


Why do you mean you have to command around at all and to bark at me as an imperator?
Do you confuse yourself with Hulk, the Shrek of the little girls, or what?


As for my name, I confess, its a ly. But its a poetical ly as all the poets do always forcely. Are you accusing Shakespeare too of being a liar, because the story of Hamlet isnt true? Its another poetical ly.
No poetry without poetical ly. Not even a novel without poetical ly. Its an artist-name, not a ly. I could explain it to you in every detail, inspite of the artist-rule, of never explaining the own artworks.

But I cannot. Because I can upload my avatar only getting a full member. And I need the avatar to explain the name, there is a figurative explication. Its a riddle, if you can crack it, you are a real crack. But I warn you: Its difficult more than the riddle of Rumpelstiltskin of Grimms, and the cryptographic competiency is useless. Its difficult as much, that I suppose, it is impossible to guess. But thats what Rumpelstiltskin said too. And I will not get furious as Rumpelstiltskin and stamp with the foot as much that the earth is getting divided, if you find out. I will give you the first and only hint: the artist-name is an artwork, the avatar is an artwork, but the explication is not. Its the blank, sober, bonedry, boring truth. Then, you will be forced to admit, that I am not a liar. At least not always.


I dont understand, that.
What do you mean?
And why do you write some letters capitalized?
And should i relate this statement somehow to me?


Oh..
Good morning, how are you?

Ah..
I see you are awake some time.
Excellent mood, as usual?


BTW:
Dont bark at me, then I will not make a cabaret. I certainly will not produce with you virtually, what is getting called in the real life the yelling-around. If you bark, you make me scream of laughter.
LOL
Like that, thats as with the dog of Pawlow. Its a reaction, what is stronger than me. At least, the sarcasm, what then follows forcely too, is actually acid quasi-zero. I hope, you understand some humour, its not funny else, I know, sorry for that. At the beginning, I wasnt offending you, I only was stateing, that you are off-topic. And I was saying it polite..
Well I see, you are active. Looks out important, but looks out off-topic again. I will not repeat my opinion about, you know it. And not even if I would, I could talk with you about this materia reasonable. I miss some concepts, of what you will talk. I wish you anyway a constructive and fruitful day and hope you find the people, what can talk with you in a way, what ends not in the yelling around.

Well its late..
.. its me, what is going now to bed.

Good night.

PS:
One last question: Your artist name of TPTB_need_war has an aggressive denotation, is it program, the aggressive comportment? But be aware, saying yes, I will push the ignore button, we will thereafter never nomore be able to exchange our jokes.

I liked to dispute here already the case, when there exists no single conclusive proof.

I was already approaching to another unworkable approach: the intuition. We cannot dispute reasonable our intuitive estimation for the cited reasons. If someone will do anyway, its an endless dispute, where the emotions risk to get high very much, do it please in another thread to keep thisone small.

We are not out of arguments, then.

When the cops cannot proof, they cannot listen to the intuition too not, they need to work with indices.

Thats the what we can dispute here, the indices, what speak for and con, that Dave Kleiman is Satoshi Nakamoto. Its police-work, but we can help to the cops, what are not Bitcoin-cracks apriori.

What we need to observe is, that when we cannot proof doubtfree that Dave is Satoshi, we will probably not be able to show with a sufficient credibility, that Dave only is Satoshi. The group-identity is probably not excludeable, but the group membership of diverse individuals is disputeable again. Some members will maybe get discernable quite well by indices. And others will be undiscernible, where we can exclude the membership for resons of absent indices. Thats not a corrupt approach, we just need to be open to all-kind-of indices. If someone was making no trace in the group, his handmark is absent, he isnt Satoshi, its maybe the coffee-cup fetcher of Satoshi, but not Satoshi. Another candidate of group-membership is Hal Finney. It was getting said somewhere, that Hal's stilistic approach of forming the text is closest to Satoshi of all the candidates until. That is a good indice. The individuality of forming the text is reliable quite as a fingerprint. It just had to get well-presented. But we have not to talk of Hal here. The opening of another thread would be appropriate. I will not do, because I will think about Dave.

Note, that we have masses of text of Satoshi. Hundreds of posts and mails. Thats an easy-game. Its rather too much data than not enough. Then we have tons of programs. It was said now somewhere, that Satoshi wasnt a good programmer. Because of the sloppyness, for example. Thats even excellent, the weaknesses are excellent indices. The excellence is the what everyone tries to do.

But we have not too much data, thats the good-news. We are in the Big-Data-Age. Its not too much at far. The stilistic fingerprints are just getting sharper.

To work with indices, the cops need anyway their intuition. It is not possible to examinate all. The world is too big. The cops need the intuition to find the relevant traces. Not for more. We have to stay honest with the indices, what we find, and not to distort them at will in the direction of our intention. And thats not easy, when our intention is strong.

Excuse me, if you dont like to get addressed like students, its not personal, of course. I dont doubt about someone's intelligence or competiency. Its just to address everyone, and to include everyone in the revealings, especially thisones, what didnt see clear, what is really needed and possible. I see, that the dispute is sometimes very casual, its not a working-group, a forum-thread, I know. And I am not the OP of this thread and will not at all create allures of director. But a thread, what achieves an insight is anyway cool more, than a thread of smalltalk or a thread of rooster-fight. To loose time, we can look TV, its even less arduous.

Yeah..
.. it was me, what was not straight-on-topic now. But it was anyway close, and belonging really not somewhere else.

But its Dave himself, the thema, here.

It was getting said, that the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto will maybe never get revealed doubtfree.

The question is, what we look as doubtfree proof. We are now hot in the materia. We are now educated of the past days, and dispose about a sharp more competiency in this relation than some days before. All of us, because we were getting confronted with false proofs. Except some cracks, what were learning nothing new.

We learned, that there exists quasi-no proof, what is really conclusive, because everything is manipulateable. The signature, the early blocks. All is, if not manipulateable, then stealable. There exists no single proof, what is really conclusive. Correct me, if Im wrong. Im a Newbie of Bitcoin, the cryptographic interna are out of my competiency.

Its a problem, what needs to get disputed exhausting. We need to create clearness about.

If it is possible, we know, what we need - if not, we know, that we need to create another approach.

My purpose is to dispute this in another thread, because it isnt related to Dave. Me, I will not create it for reasons of absent competiency and because I have the impression, that this clear proof doesnt exist.

Its somehow similar to the God-proof. Many exist, noone is tenable scientifically really.

What leads some in the Atheism, some in the Agnosticism. But the most keep the belief not needing a proof. Some suspect, its conventional, its traditional, its for reasons of conformism only. Others say its the intuition. Thats not covered of the science, of course. 

Dont worry, its not my intention to turn the thread into the religuous, the problem of the belief is that the dispute isnt possible reasonable. Whats the difference between the knowing, the meaning and the believing? The what we believe, we cannot proof exactly, thats why we cannot dispute it scientifically. Because we can only dispute scientifically what we know, the knowledge, nothing else. Okay, stop the unscientific now really. Dont challennge me, dont ask, I will not answer, its really offtopic.

Oh, many thanks for your worries concerning my exitement-state, you are a sweetheart.
But I am used about worse.


Are you sure? And where is the evidence? And who is "they"? The Wright-gang?

I must admit, that you cannot convince me entirely.

In my opinion, its a good idea to pass ideas similar to the what I said to the official instances what are responsible. Thats not an impossibility, of course. This idea isnt ariseing to everyone automatically. The brisance of the situation is maybe not discernible for someone outside of the Bitcoin-scene. Thats what I mean. Its a jokeing-forum here, of course, but its not only a jokeing-forum here, isnt it? The life in what we live is real, not virtual. Its not a computer-game here. Or are all of us responsible not more than the children of the kindergarten?

Me I cant. I am circa 1/2-earth-size away. All what I can, is to produce a workable written purpose, what is at least referenceable, when no better idea occurrs.

Its time to calm down really only, when we get good news from Ira and Louis Kleiman.

But nevertheless, I will not talk about that until then, so..
.. no worries.

I knew. Its not at all a reproach, no stilistic critics. I like.


No prob with that, terence, me too not. It was again not a reproach, I just asked.

I see, its not Dave, what speaks.

Its a misleading statement: Dave's wheelchair isnt a medal from the Army. Its not a medal from the Sheriff too not. Its reasoned by a motocycle-accident in the free-time. I know, you knew, Gleb. I clarify it for the who didnt know.

Well, this link:
I knew, the show isnt over. I supposed, the retraite of the falseplayer was only strategic.

Its a puzzle for the cops, not for us.

The sharpened cards of the falseplayer are backdating, hacked sources, manipulated digital signatures and corrupted witnesses. Thats expectable.

Dave was a forensic crack. The falseplayer means to be upper. Its a case for the forensic experts really.

At least, every claimed action of Dave in this relation is to control very, very profound. Dave was knocked out in the hospital very much. As well, Dave's compagnons can know very much of Dave's agenda. His buddy looks out quite as uncorruptible as Bud Spencer. Just this claimed director-state in the Hotwire Preemptive Intelligence Pty Ltd seems to be quite impossible. Yes, Hotwire Preemptive Intelligence Et cetera Et cetera, thats the meaningful name. Its the incredible style not of Satoshi. Its the style of someone with an incredible big mouth.

What was the name of Dave's company?

Its a stilistic difference, what is strikeing. What is the name of the blockchain? Is it meaningful?
Correct, the name of the blockchain is blockchain. Because its a chain of blocks. Thats Satoshi. No need to confuse someone by highblown nameing.

The stilistic traces are unmasking obvious and reliant more than fingerprints. The bigmouth of the falseplayers is nonoverlookable. Isnt it?

... BTW

Did you ever think about Gleb's style? Why is this style not a style of falseplayer?
Its not question of being loud or quiet nor a question of being polite or unpolite nor a question of being timid or impudent nor a question of being open or close.

Its a question of being honest or sly.

I have the impression, some have pains to discern the falseplayers here, as 50% were trusting CSW.

There is the problem of Dave Kleiman's father too. As we know, he is old 92 years and at least partially informed, concerning Dave's infliction with Bitcoin.

But he probably has no idea, what is Satoshi Nakamoto. And that there is a fortune of half a Billion dollar somewhere jammed in the cyberspace, what belongs to Satoshi's successors, so maybe to Dave's successors.

Imagine.

Its a message, what can kill the old man, if it is delivered false. Heart-attacks exist.

My advice: say nothing or say it professional. Its explainable to the old man only when Ira is in security. Its a task for the psychologically hardened public service. Nothing for good-meaning amateurs.
Its first Ira, then Louis. Both need professional help.

Warning: if Ira is really paranoid, he risks to defend himself with the gun, getting accessed violent.

Hi Gleb, I dont understand, why you quote me in this relation. I didnt award him.
As far as I can estimate, Dave Kleiman was a very impressive soldier. One has-to-get the laurels, all are only humans. He was a deputy of sheriff before his accident, too. I can imagine him deputy-of-the-year-award capable too. An astonishing imagination of Satoshi Nakamoto, of course. But state-power-critical means not subversive. There is a subtle difference. The libertarians are not against the state, but against the overregulation of the state, against the attraction of too much responsability of the state. Dave was working for the state and for international institutions. A libertarian approach is to make for the state, what is good, and to refuse the what is too much. He wasnt engaged fix nomore. He was very well able to refuse jobs. I see no conflict to Satoshi here, no incompatibility.


I dont know. I never heard about. Was he saying veteran or war-veteran? Was he maybe saying "war-veteran"? We are used to talk in metaphors, what are not takeable literally always.
Little overdrive is not unusual, isnt it, Gleb?

Wow, super!
Thats not over, this game, its what I worry, but its rather a case for the cops to clear this backdateing show up.

Back to Dave's brother, what is alarming:
Ira Kleiman

• claimed that after his brother’s death, Wright contacted him
  
• alleged to possess certain documents concerning Dave
  
• declined to provide any concrete information about those documents
  
• declined to speak on the record about whether he is in possession of his brother’s hard drives
  
• refused to meet
  
• refused to speak over the phone
  
• sent instead dozens of cagey and cryptic emails and SMS messages
  
• would not answer when asked if he believed that Wright had been telling him the truth
  

Its Ira Kleiman's right, not to speak with the boulevard, of course.

But what if our false-player was not only contacting him, but stalking him and trying to nick something?
What if not only our falseplayer was exerting pressure on Ira Kleiman, but an entire gang?

Ira Kleiman has probably no concrete idea of "Bitcoins". And "Satoshi Nakamoto" is saying him absulutely nothing. And noone was warning him, that there is maybe half a Billion of dollars in his appartment. Especially our falseplayer was letting him unknowingly very intentional, one can guess. Even the reporters of Gizmodo were not able to explain him something understandable maybe, because he was blocking every access, having got already accessed penetrant too much, and having no idea, why all people are suddenly as importunate.

The comportment of Ira Kleiman is at least not excluding, that he is as much under pressure to have an acute paranoid problem.

Again the same source Gizmodo:

Its what I worry about: Ira Kleiman.

Back to the thema:
Gizmodo published already long ago: http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692


Paige was the compagnon of Dave. Everybody can watch him at Dave's Homepage, where his compagnon is observable even in a video. A cool person, if you ask me. Not at all another falseplayer. Paige isnt a Bitcoin-insider, its not cerain, that he knows, what Dave's USB-drive could be worth.

Thats this suspicious USB-drive.


Yeah

 LOL

What do you mean? Einstein is a god?

There exists another thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1459687.140
with the same thema, what is less corrupt than thisone, what is already crammed of nonsense from the beginning. Its not really the problem, that the false doctor was an Ozzie, we suppose.



We like the Ozzies, but not the falseplayers.


The title of this thread isnt great, too not. Its actually only a suspicion. We have still to discover the evidence. The other thread's title is better now. For now, its a hypothesis. To say it is so, makes the thread actually incredible. Some, maybe the most interesting posters will not parcipitate in the claiming of absent certainities.

We could continue here, if we are sure.

But IF we can get sure, we need anyway a fresh thread, because Satoshi merits not a squarrel of fishwifes at the beginning.

We were reading here many times in the past days of the falseness of the superelevation of Satoshi in the sphere at the limit to the divine.

Of course, humans are no gods.

Albert Einstein wasnt a god too not..

.. but we should talk of Satoshi Nakamoto maybe as of the Einstein of the banking.

The invention of the blockchain, block chain, as Satoshi used to write is not to underestimate. Some talk of the invention of the century. Some, what are not fools.

I will not talk now about that, as it is off-topic too.

Just to say, if it is Dave, then Dave is a big hero. And not a falseplayer as this false doctor, of whom we should stop to babble.

As well as we should stop to babble about Jean-Paul Sartre's irrelevant Nobel-refuse speech. Its always one of the red herrings of the false player.

Edit: typo

Is it a problem, when THIS statement isnt coming from Dave?

Everyone was interested in stopping this silly boulevard-show over Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto.

I am an innocent Noob, and not a sock puppet.

I WAS saying something about him just before:



I see, you are completely upset, maybe your exitement is entirely appropriate, because you seem to be seriously worried. I cannot judge, you know, the angry man's terms are hardly accessible. And to be honest, I am not interested, because..



..me too, I am worried, but because of something else what seems to be importantmore to me and what is on-topic.


Its something what belongs exactly here and nowhere else. And your thema is off-topic and makes this important thread unreadable. I m sorry, but thats a fact.



Its as talking of the boxing in the football-match. 



Why dont you ask the moderation to adapt the title of the thread to your thema?
The footballers are excellent boxing sportlers certainly too.

Is this really relevant?

Is this statement of Satoshi verified?

Edit: I suppose, after stopping to post here, no statement of Satoshi is verifyable nomore. Its anyway very difficult to verify an anonymous source, especially in the latest statement, because of the hackability of every channel.

Why so little talk of Dave Kleiman?

Ahm..



I will not say, that you are wrong, but arent you wrong here?




Dave Kleiman is dead, his identity of having been Satoshi Nakamoto is always doubted. And if..

..then his brother, what was inheriting the suspicious USB-drive with the wallets worth half a billion dollar is absolutely inconscient about his property and in big danger, as there exist gamblers as this unspeakable false doctor Craig Wright what are interested in nothing than these bucks really. Some kill for a handful dollars, as our wild Gleb was remembering very sage.

 

Isnt it better to think about this closer here, and about other things somewhere else?

Its concretely a cooperation of 10 quite famous restaurants of the city of Bern with a local cycle-messenger.

Its named "Schnellerteller", what is a great name meaning "fast-plate".

The what is extraordinary about, is effectively the cooperating bike-courier: its the firstone at all of the world, what accepts Bitcoin.

Its a double-hit: its Bitcoin and its Eco.

Tatatataa..
Tatatataa..

Congratulations.

Another idea with an incredible potential of reproduction.

To make the german newspaper understandable better:


In the “CryptoValley” of Zug reside already 15 (!) crypto-companies, of what ETH is only one.

This makes more than 1 crypto-company per 2000 citizens. This is reasoned not only by the lowtax-condition, but essentally by the reliability of the swiss law and the hardness of the swiss fiat curreny too. This is probably reasoned not by the crypto-interest of the citizens of Zug really.


That potentally could be electricity, water etc. ..maybe even the parking-fines.


I am sure, the Swiss will make about hard fiat swiss Frankly immediately, because they will certainly not take the responsability for the currency-fluctuations of the BTC against the fiat in the bilance of the city. Thats very public in Switzerland and losses would be very unpopular.


No, I cannot confirm at all. Switzerland is one of the low cashless societies..
The Swiss like to pay cash always.
Its always the normalcase to pay cash in the swiss supermarket.