The online site for Esoteric Investments is shutting down today if any client on this thread hasn't contacted us for their bitcoin withdrawal please private message me.

Company statement for pool closing procedure to take place over the next two weeks.
https://esotericinvestments.com/close.pdf

We will be active on the site's chat for further questions from invested parties.

Man you trollers are such sheeple following each other in whatever the one says.

Yea I don't give two shits about my trust rating, and I don't give two shits about that poll, and I don't give two shits about a bitcointalk thread I didn't make any of these threads or polls. I'm happy digi did made it so I can reach out to people that need to know information about Esoteric but thats it. Didn't get involved on the thread to gain an approval rating of any sort I know what I'm doing is honest, so I don't give two shits if you do. And anyway we aren't taking more deposits so I don't need any of you to think its honest or not the people that are in the pool currently will continue to get the payouts we get from the trades and everyone else gets to continue bitching here that they wish they had as much bitcoin as we do to trade in the markets. Hopefully a few of you get the honor of us dumping on you some nice big bags to hold.

By the way sunny is that bet still open 2:1 odds that we are a ponzi scheme that's gonna run away with everyone's money. I STILL WANT IN! or you can say no and actually prove that your just full of shit posting on here just to post on here. Because you were too scared to put your money where your mouth was before so I am assuming you still are, just want to expose that to everyone on the thread since I actually have some grounds and proof behind it you being full of it, more proof then you can say you ever had.

Also since your so knowledgeable about DDOS attacks and protection, they're really not that hard to mitigate and stop when you have the infrastructure in place like any data center that guarantees 99.9% up time has. So by saying that just proves you have no idea, and again you all are saying shit just to say it adding to the horrible name that bitcoin talk has been getting the past few months.

and we do make losses no good trader makes only gains from every trade they do, but a good trader makes more gains then his losses from stopping his losses at a point that's less then the gains, and again this proves you guys have no idea! This is why we started a pool because all of you dummies have no idea how to trade right and we tried putting out instructionals and tried to teach and say what coins to get into and at what prices but none of it really took. So now its at a point just give us the coin and we'll take our large cut of the profits and you just get a small consistent return. Anyone that's been involved with that has been happy from it so the service we have been providing is fine as far as I can see. And since we really have no responsibilities to make you trolls happy and making all you trolls happy is impossible anyway, we're done trying. So screw trying to produce transparency screw showing you all of our past trades etc none of you have any reason to know that stuff, and the only ones who do are the ones that aren't even asking for it. It also takes a lot of time away from our analysis of markets. So here on out that's how its working the people invested will get paid out till their terms expire as they have been and we're focusing on ensuring those payouts. We're done with all this other crap to please all the trolls here.

OK going back to not responding to stupid FUD with nothing behind its reasoning cause you folks like to see your own text and point to your crypto friends and say "Hey I wrote this look look!" as if it makes you a valued opinion here in the ecosystem. Talk to me about the markets on here and you'll see who has an actual valuable opinion and who has no idea what crypto is and what they spend hours on forums being involved in.

Oh and www.esotericinvestments.com is back online with everyone's accounts up to date with all the payouts from the last few days.

PM me your account username and email info we will send you the private site while the public one is put back up with a new host. We have been cautiously sending them out as we can't ensure an investor isn't involved in the attack. So if we sent it out to one person and then attacks just started happening again, we could pretty much narrow it down to who it may be. We still are not going to send them all out at once because the downtime of another day or two from another attack is still annoying.

But since we're getting the protected VPS if we send it out and attacks happen for another ransom, it will be pointless because they will be mitigated in the next day or two with Zion hosting.

So good news! The public site will be brought back soon in the next day or two probably with ddos protection from www.zionvps.com (very likely to choose them however still snooping around a bit more to make sure their service is everything they say it is, with two other choices as fallbacks). Our goal is to have all accounts and the site fully functional before the end of the week either with ZionVPS or another hosting company that can mitigate attacks.

We are still not accepting any new clients or additional deposits, and this will go on indefinitely. I know this must be a bummer to many of you who actively marketed your affiliate link and planned to continue to do so. However for the pool it is the right decision and we apologize for any inconveniences it may cause.

Where is the multipool or any sort of information about it? Can't see any information about it anywhere but would like to learn a bit more.

We'll start sending out emails to clients with how to get to the private server tomorrow in the evening. We will not send out emails to every client all at once. We may choose to do it over the course of the week.

Thank you in advance for your patience.

Private message me the wallet you used for this withdrawal along with your username or account name if you can so we can look at our records. Our withdrawals should all be up to date unless they happened after Friday when the site was experiencing problems from the attacks. So I need to see if you or us had put in a wrong wallet address or some other error may have occurred.

And yes that is the direction we are going in. We will be going to a private undisclosed non public server. If you are a current client with any sort of bitcoin deposit you will be given access, those with no bitcoin in their accounts have no need for the site and will not be given access. Also at this point new clients and further bitcoin deposits will not be accepted.

Thanks at the very worst we will have to sign up for cloudlflare guaranteed ddos protection to give us a strong line of defense. For the cost of 200/month instead of a 1 btc ransom to most likely get extorted again next month by these guys. Their demands are stupid not getting anything from us.

The group known as dd4bc is continuing its ddos attacks for a ransom of btc that we will not be paying. We are combating these attacks and finding and developing ways to mitigate them. Will keep you all updated as we make new developments. One thing is clear you aren't getting a single satoshi from us, so dd4bc this is a waste of your time as well as ours!

Time for round 2.

We are experiencing attacks from a known ddos group called dd4bc they attacked nitrogen sports a bitcoin sports betting site in the past.  http://www.bitcoingg.com/nitrogen-sports-remains-resilient-amid-attacks-due-to-blackmails-extortions/ 

As nitrogen sports has gotten past their attacks we shall as well.

Take this message as a warning the site may go down several times for the next few days while defenses are put in place to mitigate all of their attacks. All personal information is safe and secured they haven't made any attempts to hack us. Just shut down our servers.

However if a hack is attempted successfully we will send out emails to members to make them aware of what data, if any, of theirs may have been taken. Most personal data like passwords is hashed and salted so this shouldn't become a major issue even if a hack is successfully performed.

Site is back, upgraded, and better then ever along with some new added defenses.
Also, some basic ddos hack group demanding payment from us to stop their attack has been mitigated. Nice try. (not really though)

Performing server upgrades. We aren't out yet.

You must be slow, I have given you a federally granted License of my identity, and am very easy to find on social media tracing back around half a decade of my life which includes Esoteric Investments and an active social life from my friends (including the standard random facebook friends) "Hard to believe we don't use false IDs VPNs or whoisguard" Why could this be? Could it be, I don't know, we are actually running something real. If you ever bothered to chat with either of us you'd know we aren't dumb and in full knowledge of all of these and then some, but have no reason to use any of them as we aren't being shady at all.

So puppet stfu I'm done responding to you in particular because everything you say is dumb BS! Look forward to seeing your report on us and filing a lawsuit for you in return, typical true investment firm style.

We trade bitcoins in alt coin markets and grow your bitcoin deposit by 0-2% daily, at this moment we aren't concerned with making you money in the form of USD or any fiat dollar. If that's what you are looking for then don't use our service because you will be very disappointed. Some people really believe in Bitcoin and want it and more of it no matter its current fiat value. Others are concerned with the fiat value, but also hold a stake just in case bitcoin surges to the 1000s again. These are the people that will be interested in what Esoteric has to offer currently. We are not in this business currently for the people who want more money, (that's in store for the future) we're in it for the people who want more bitcoin.

Right but at 20 btcs we're not there. At 100btcs we might start seeing the effects of having too much. It's something we are aware of, and at that point either stop taking in deposits or we change the payout model to something more conventional of a private mutual/hedge fund.

Or what'd be amazing is if we are at that point fully accredited, then we'll just use that coin and turn it into USD investments like stocks and commodities. Though again this will probably come with a change to our operations. Adding USD in addition to BTC adds a lot of complexity, or was I the only one puzzled by how BT did it. At that point the sky is the limit for the fund. We don't want to be only in Bitcoin forever. The term esoteric investments in the financial world spans much farther then digital currencies.

In the next year Esoteric Investments is going to change A LOT both the face and the inner workings of it. I'm excited for it! 

Sit back and enjoy the show, hopefully we can earn you some money along the way.

We have upwards of 20btc under management right now. Current holdings we aren't sure if we want to divulge, especially right now with so much negativity around us. Could encourage some people to screw that market(s) up. When all holdings are sold off we plan to release the trade history of that coin.

Before any coin began to come into Esoteric, Bitcoin Trader was the big thing which did not feature any transparency. Now that they have fallen it is a major issue for us and you. Hence why its a new project added to our growing list.

Read the FAQ and our materials before you join the groups of people slandering us who have also not read them. We often do trade on holidays and weekends, markets don't take off for weekends and holidays and if there is a good opportunity or bitcoin is in the markets at that time we wont take off either. We just do not process payouts or report the payout on those days.If the market crashes while our eyes aren't on a computer there are automated stop losses and sells in place to automatically sell the coin when it falls below a point or above a point.

Today's payout: 0.01 BTC, how are you supposed to know how much of that bitcoin is yours and not other depositors. Percentages work better there.

Coin is deposited randomly at all times throughout the day, into a deposit wallet that doesn't become active in the trading wallet(s) till the next day, that furthermore we may not even move into the trading wallet if there is no place for it to be invested at that time. There are several trading wallets as it isn't always one person trading nor are we on only one exchange. When we sell off some of our holdings this profits will be moved into the profits wallet and our cut will go into yet another one. Probably one wallet I forgot to mention too. and this system is still being designed to what wallets we really need how many, and then their addresses. Once its design we then will need to code out a way to take all of the wallet balances and add them to display our finances in a clear way to everyone.

Once all of that is in place you will be able to see the estimated pool balance, and the profits that we've collected to ensure they add up with the math that we're presenting in our payouts. And after all of this work, there are still flaws to provide transparency for.

Being transparent in Bitcoin, where even the government with all their resources have trouble following and accounting for things, is a ton easier said than done.

We'll need some time to put together a satisfactory system. All the other nuances being brought to us distract us from that. So if you want to see this in the next week or two. Leave us to our work. Unless you actually have something helpful to say in obtaining these goals.

Are you dumb, you don't see anyway that it is possible to make over .1% on average daily. In crypto markets moving dozens to hundreds of a percent in hours to days. We have a few dozen under management at the moment. With that little it is easy. As we move to a few 100 I doubt profits will be anywhere where they have been.

Also some updates on the legal front. We are within exemptions of many reporting and registration requirements with both the state(s) and federal government. Paperwork is in the process of filing under these exemptions. We soon may begin having to take down more information about investors to know of their location for AML, CTF, and KYC compliances, but this is after all what you all wanted...Enjoy!

and nope no summons served yet.

And nothing about our site or service is generic lol #CUSTOM

Last to whoever was saying "If only some public ledger of every transaction existed, and could be used to verify what we're doing." If you could read and bothered to really look at us you'd know that's our plan, or one of our plans for transparency. As you can see from our lottery we like using the block chain to prove something is fair. Till we design a system to do it for you, then you all can follow the block chain and keep up with it yourself.

You'll all just have to wait and see. Can't make everything overnight while keeping up with the markets.

Again I say if you trust us you can start earning sooner. If you don't , then don't invest and maybe wait for all the transparency and regulations to develop. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING MORE THEN THAT!