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Re: "Learn Bitcoin" is silent when farmed account queries are raised
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PytagoraZ
on 26/12/2024, 01:28:02 UTC
WTF, Many off topic here.. Any mod?
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Re: MLM – a dangerous marketing strategy
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PytagoraZ
on 26/12/2024, 01:19:56 UTC
Disclaimer: Please don't invest in MLM Systems, you won't get your invested money back. In the following topic is explained why:

This is a wrong interpretation. MLM is a good marketing concept. What is wrong is the ponzi scheme system. I think MLM and ponzi scheme are different things. This is a wrong interpretation
It's not a wrong interpretation. MLM and Scam often goes hand in hand because it is so critical to gain new customers.


are you kidding me?

What are you talking about? Are we talking about knowledge or bullshit? In the realm of knowledge, it is clear that MLM is one of the marketing models. However, if you are talking about bullshit then you can say that MLM and Ponzy Schemes often go hand in hand, yes that is true, but scientifically they are different.

So, you have come to the wrong conclusion about MLM and Ponzi. You should explain both in a scientific perspective and not consider them the same. And the worse, you are making a campaign to translate this misinterpretation. This is very dangerous.
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Re: MLM – a dangerous marketing strategy
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PytagoraZ
on 24/12/2024, 07:06:08 UTC
Disclaimer: Please don't invest in MLM Systems, you won't get your invested money back. In the following topic is explained why:


This is a wrong interpretation. MLM is a good marketing concept. What is wrong is the ponzi scheme system. I think MLM and ponzi scheme are different things. This is a wrong interpretation

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Re: MLM – sebuah strategi marketing yang sangat berbahaya
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PytagoraZ
on 24/12/2024, 07:02:01 UTC
⭐ Merited by mu_enrico (1)
Siapa kah yang nulis aslinya? sepertinya ada kesalahan persepsi atau penafsiran tentang apa itu MLM. Agan ahli sudah menjelaskan dengan baik. MLM ama ponzi itu beda. MLM konsep marketing yang teruji ampuh, bahkan untuk nipu pun ampuh. Ponzi yang harus dihindari bukan MLM.
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Re: "Learn Bitcoin" is silent when farmed account queries are raised
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PytagoraZ
on 24/12/2024, 04:23:13 UTC
A while back a post was made by Poker Player effectively stating he had suspicions that the Learn Bitcoin account was being operated by a known chief manipulator and multiple account operator (naim027). For those that might have no idea of the background to this matter, here is the post in question:


Overall, what are the general views within the community on this matter?

Like the old story, you don't even have any evidence to reopen the case. It's just your assumption because he didn't reply to your messages.

Maybe you should learn how the legal system works, how to reopen old cases, find new evidence/novum. Ah, it seems like I'm talking to a rock, I doubt your brain capacity from the past, present, and future.

So? Continue your assumptions with the logic of perception, and perception is always subjective.


APT APT APT   APT APT APT  Tongue
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Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
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PytagoraZ
on 23/12/2024, 04:05:47 UTC
Bump


Finally I remembered my password
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Re: Saya pendatang baru di formulir ini. tolong bantu saya untuk memberi saya bebera
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PytagoraZ
on 25/06/2024, 04:56:58 UTC
saya benar-benar pemula di forum ini. Saya memutuskan untuk membuat posting pertama saya, di perbatasan lokal saya. jadi saya membuat postingan ini.

semuanya tolong beri tahu saya apa karya pertama saya di forum ini? bagaimana cara bekerja di sini? Dan bagaimana saya bekerja, saya akan mendapatkan pahala dari Anda semua?

Sepertinya translatean. Tapi tidak apa-apa, semoga anda berhasil
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Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
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PytagoraZ
on 25/06/2024, 04:50:43 UTC
bump

Not sure why you're bumping this.  Seems to me that if the community wanted to continue this discussion, it'd still be going, and right or wrong I think you made your point.  If JollyGood rubs your nuts the wrong way again, you can obviously feel free to start up a new thread but this one here needs a fork stuck in it.

As long as bumping is not prohibited then I will do it. JG also hasn't come here and given an explanation. Is it because he is DT that he is free to do whatever he wants?
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Re: Today 19 June Bestchange turns 17 years old wow!
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PytagoraZ
on 25/06/2024, 03:12:20 UTC
What's this? Should writing like this be on this board? Yes, maybe some members like BestChange because it is a source of their weekly income. lol
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Re: The SportsBet.io Gang
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PytagoraZ
on 25/06/2024, 03:06:23 UTC
DT is free to tag anyone
Merits sources are free to send merit to anyone
Want to quickly rise in rank? then post in the sportsbet thread, they have that power  Wink

Has anyone been harmed? No, no one is harmed, but there are those who benefit
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Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
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PytagoraZ
on 25/06/2024, 02:55:00 UTC
bump
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Re: Likely low quality poster alts.
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PytagoraZ
on 03/05/2024, 01:59:16 UTC
Netral tag + report moderator = Case is closed
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Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
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PytagoraZ
on 02/05/2024, 17:24:25 UTC
That's an example of a DT who people say has a good reputation and can be trusted, but who commits stupid and anti-critical actions. So, is there still trust in people like that? I know not all DTs are like that, but Jolly has abused a lot of trust system

Making a thread like that and locking it isn't the worst crime in the world, and I think everyone is blowing that way out of proportion.  Yes, it was a breach of etiquette and the thread shouldn't have been locked, but it's not as though he stopped any discussion about BitcoinGirl.Club's trustworthiness.  He just made it impossible to discuss in his own thread.

If we talk about humanity then the worst crime is killing humans, if we talk about independence then the worst crime is colonialism, if bitcointalk is a discussion forum then the worst crime is prohibiting discussion (such as creating a controversial thread and locking it)

JollyGood has indeed shown a pattern of poor judgement when it comes to using the trust system, which is why I had him excluded way back before I wiped my trust list entirely.  In fact, I just realized that when I made a new trust list not too long ago, I forgot to exclude him from it--but that omission has now been corrected.  Last I knew, JG was trying to do some good on the forum and might still be; I haven't looked at any of the feedbacks he's handed out in probably a year or more, but though I don't think he ought to be on DT I don't think he's a malicious, evil motherfucker either.

And to those of you complaining about his wrongly-given trust, just ~ him in your trust list if you haven't already.  If enough members on DT do that, he won't be on DT anymore and his feedbacks won't carry nearly as much weight.  The whole DT system is a farce, but the inclusion/exclusion feature is a voting mechanism and problem DT members ideally should be weeded out through it.

For all these statements, I agree with you and as always you have a great view.
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Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion
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PytagoraZ
on 01/05/2024, 22:37:38 UTC
Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.

Very funny...  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Do you think the response is important? So you are giving OP advice on how to respond to yahoo62278? Then what do you do? you created a locked thread, you don't dare to argue with me in the thread I created. You always talk nonsense and are an arrogant braggart
Sometimes users know that it's a waste of time to respond to certain people.  There are some that like to engage in the arguments and those that don't want to argue unless they are arguing a point.

I wouldn't waste my time arguing on deaf ears in most cases.

Yes, I know about that and Jolly only comes to discussions where many members support him, or come to advise someone, without realizing the mistake he made.

I've tried to argue with him several times, but he always avoids it and doesn't want to admit his mistake. Members who don't want to admit their mistakes are the worst, that's what I know

I have tried to argue with him in a healthy way, but he doesn't respond well so I need to use harsher methods and make many people aware that Jolly is too selfish. I acknowledge you and your wise views, you are the best one in this forum
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Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
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PytagoraZ
on 01/05/2024, 22:29:13 UTC
Regarding the true story that happened to me, komisariatku has explained many things. Believe it or not, it's your right. Moreover, negative tags don't limit me in discussing, because I like discussing so it is not a serious problem.

He is a controversial figure indeed but at this point in time I feel the positive contributions he added to the forum via his feedbacks outweigh the negatives, so he will remain in my trust list. Yes, you're still free to discuss what you want, nobody is going to argue with you about that.

Yes, it's your choice to trust him or not, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time until people's realize the mistake that Jolly made.

I acknowledge your abilities, lovesmyfamilies and several other members who have good abilities and views and are worthy of being DT. But for me it's still not for Jolly
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Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion
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PytagoraZ
on 01/05/2024, 22:18:33 UTC
Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.

Very funny...  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Do you think the response is important? So you are giving OP advice on how to respond to yahoo62278? Then what do you do? you created a locked thread, you don't dare to argue with me in the thread I created. You always talk nonsense and are an arrogant braggart
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Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
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PytagoraZ
on 30/04/2024, 03:28:46 UTC
do you think Jolly's actions are correct and should be used as an example by other members?

Not always, no. But he was spot on when it came to his neutral feedback on you, the 1st left by anybody:

JollyGood    2023-07-05    Reference    This "PytagoraZ" account was created less than a month ago but seems to know a lot about the forum and members. I suspect a farm/alt-account trying to increase rank as fast as possible probably for signature campaign enrolment.

This feedback will be edited after his motivations become known.

I don't think there is anything that needs to be explained further because there is already an explanation in your thread about what actually happened between me and komisariatku.

An explanation that nobody believes.

Our relationship has also improved and I have compensated for the losses caused by my mistakes.

Congratulations



I don't hate you and you are still on my trust list even though you don't trust me.

Good. I don't hate you either; I don't hate anyone on this forum - there's nothing here that's worth getting that upset over - but anyone who lands on my distrust list does so for a reason.



Thank you for not hating me. I don't like Jolly because of the abuse he does, and the worst thing is when he creates threads to ruin someone's reputation and locks the thread. His bad actions were even imitated by other members, very bad

If I hated JG because of the tag he gave me, then you should be the first person I hated, but I didn't.

I guess you also don't agree with what JG did, but you chose to play it safe. So I'm here to speak out about his terrible actions



Regarding the true story that happened to me, komisariatku has explained many things. Believe it or not, it's your right. Moreover, negative tags don't limit me in discussing, because I like discussing so it is not a serious problem.
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Re: To JollyGood and Icopress,
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PytagoraZ
on 30/04/2024, 01:46:49 UTC
Sorry guys, this forum discriminates against small level members, so your posts don't get attention from popular members.

Wrong.  Smiley

JG has left you neutral trust, which should not affect you.  You can't demand he changes the way he thinks; all you can do is try to convince him through actions. 

I caught an escrow scammer once.  I sent a message to the scammer, and his main account replied seconds later.   He left the forum after I caught him, but then came back during my hiatus.   

I'm not demand him for the tag he gave me. I just don't agree with his mindset and behavior on the forum, I've tried to invite him to debate and discuss, but he always avoids it. JG is not the type of member who should be trusted. Nutildah is a person who makes me have a negative tag, but I recognize her ability and dedication, I trust her and am not angry with her at all.
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Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion
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PytagoraZ
on 29/04/2024, 16:44:13 UTC
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You'd better worry about why you've turned into a vengeful troll who lies at every turn.
His was a lost cause a long time ago. Do not waste your time engaging with him (and especially not by advising him).

This is the 44th post in this thread but an interesting statistic is that 9 posts in this thread (equates to over 20%) were made by the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming puppeteer. Those are very interesting statistics.

I see some similarities between the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming troll and another account that ended up getting multiple tags therefore ended by giving up on that account. I hope the sooner the other accounts operated by the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming troll are accidentally revealed by him and receive tags as a response, the better.

Lol  Cheesy

Don't you have any good discussion material? you always repeat the same thing. Similarity? Come on, show me where my posts are located that are similar to komisariatku

But I'm sure you can't prove it, and of course this is your 34th bullshit. I challenge you to find my posting habits the same as komisariatku. just prove it, if you can't then you are just a braggart.

If you thought I would abandon my account because I couldn't join the campaign, you were wrong. I will always be here, watching your ridiculous behavior  Wink
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Re: To JollyGood and Icopress,
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PytagoraZ
on 29/04/2024, 16:33:48 UTC
So it's about Jolly again?

Sorry guys, this forum discriminates against small level members, so your posts don't get attention from popular members. And as for Jolly, I will continue to attack him here for his logical stupidity