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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- ***NEW UPDATES***
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RealHummer
on 06/02/2023, 04:13:29 UTC
⭐ Merited by PreciousMetapsICT (2)
This new development feels very fishy. If it was earnest, wouldn't Tim be on here and other places communicating the recent history of problems and how this plan is going to solve it? Have other people received this communication RealHummer received? I am skeptical. Hopeful but very doubtful.

Steeley

This is what I don't understand.  I am amazed that he moved the coins and never told anyone.  Tim is obviously watching this thread, and was perhaps told by his lawyer not to write anything else here, but you're just making things worse in that regard.  If you had came here to announce this, owners of the 2FAs would be much more confident in this overly complicated redemption process that's been drawn up. 

Why this wasn't announced before the coins were moved is what makes absolutely no sense to me.  Has anyone started working on this process?  I understand wanting to be safe with this and all, but there's surely a better way to do this. 
Havent done anything yet and do not feel comfortable in doing so. See last message I sent but no reply back.



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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- ***NEW UPDATES***
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RealHummer
on 01/02/2023, 02:29:05 UTC
So I sent Tim a text message and get a reply back.

"The website is in the process of being rebuilt and about half of the data in the coin database was corrupted. We've moved coins to a new cold wallet so the old addresses are not accurate"

One would think instead of going silent for the last 15 or so months he would post updates here.

Wow. This is huge. Thanks for this. He never moved the BCH either. Huh

Can you post like some kind of  proof of this message you received, it just seems odd nobody else has heard fuck all... Huh

Thanks mate. Wink

https://imgur.com/sdk3xk7


So heres the latest. I did receive a text this am and he has followed up via email. I need to make sure its 100 percent legit before I fall for a scam.



Hello,

Thank you for reaching out regarding your coins.  With the website currently down for rehabilitation, all coin redemption is being performed manually.

Manual coin redemption requires additional verification in order to ensure that we send a coin's BTC to the current rightful owner.  We appreciate your patience with this process, as it has been created to hopefully eliminate the possibility for fraudulent coin redemption.

The steps for manual redemption need to be followed in the order below for us to proceed:

Step 1. Provide Photo authentication that meets the following criteria
A.) The hologram side of the coin must be facing the camera.  Either the coin ID or the redemption code that is beneath the hologram must be legible.
B.) The hologram must be peeled, and the security pattern that appears when the hologram has been peeled must be visible in the photo. 
C.) A photo ID of the current owner of the coin, with enough detail to verify name and address, must be visible in the photo.
D.) The current date must be handwritten on a piece of paper that is visible in the photo (i.e. "January 1, 2023"). 

You may include multiple coins in one photo as long as all the information requested above is clearly visible and legible.  Software is used to verify the photo's authenticity and identify any possible tampering.  Photos that have been edited, compressed, or are blurry or unclear in any way will not pass this verification.  We will notify you if additional photos are needed.

Step 2: Provide the BTC address and coin owner's residential address info
We will ask you to sign an agreement verifying that the redemption information is correct before making the transfer of BTC to your address.  This agreement will include the BTC address that your coin's value will be transferred to, as well as the residential address of the coin's current owner.  Please provide this information as text in a reply to this email.

Step 3: Reply to the email that was sent to the coin's registration address
We will send an email to the address that is on file for the coin's registration asking for authorization to redeem.  Please simply reply to that email with a confirmation that redemption is authorized.

Step 4: Sign the redemption agreement
We will fill in your bitcoin address and residential address and send you an agreement to sign which indicates that you agree to the terms of the manual coin redemption process.  As soon as that agreement is signed, your BTC can be transferred to your designated address.  This will be an e-signature unless you request to have a paper copy mailed to you.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding this process, please reply to this email and we'll work to respond as quickly as possible.  Thank you again for your patience.

- Titan Bitcoin Security Team




If he can move them, doesn’t that mean be could send them to the people who want them redeemed? There is zero premium on a funded 2fa Titan besides whatever a peeled Titan would bring IMO

I've been meaning to catch up on this thread, a few pointed out to me what has been going on.  Obviously this is huge news.  This is exactly what I was wondering, if he's moving coins then surely it's time to be able to redeem them?

@RealHummer- thanks for sharing and the updates.  I'm glad that he's responding via text, but it would certainly be nice for him to post some updates here, let us know what's going on.  Have you gotten any other updates on your end ? 
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- ***NEW UPDATES***
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RealHummer
on 29/01/2023, 23:19:18 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1)
So I sent Tim a text message and get a reply back.

"The website is in the process of being rebuilt and about half of the data in the coin database was corrupted. We've moved coins to a new cold wallet so the old addresses are not accurate"

One would think instead of going silent for the last 15 or so months he would post updates here.

Wow. This is huge. Thanks for this. He never moved the BCH either. Huh

Can you post like some kind of  proof of this message you received, it just seems odd nobody else has heard fuck all... Huh

Thanks mate. Wink

https://imgur.com/sdk3xk7
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- ***NEW UPDATES***
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RealHummer
on 29/01/2023, 23:04:09 UTC
So I sent Tim a text message and get a reply back.

"The website is in the process of being rebuilt and about half of the data in the coin database was corrupted. We've moved coins to a new cold wallet so the old addresses are not accurate"

One would think instead of going silent for the last 15 or so months he would post updates here.

Wow. This is huge. Thanks for this. He never moved the BCH either. Huh

Can you post like some kind of  proof of this message you received, it just seems odd nobody else has heard fuck all... Huh

Thanks mate. Wink

Sent you a PM and also talked to Hookzup1 on the phone. No BS on my end.
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- ***NEW UPDATES***
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RealHummer
on 29/01/2023, 20:53:27 UTC
So I sent Tim a text message and get a reply back.

"The website is in the process of being rebuilt and about half of the data in the coin database was corrupted. We've moved coins to a new cold wallet so the old addresses are not accurate"

One would think instead of going silent for the last 15 or so months he would post updates here.
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- ***NEW UPDATES***
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RealHummer
on 29/01/2023, 20:47:11 UTC
Everyone might want to check blockchain as it looks like a bunch was moved 11/15/22 all to the same address

bc1qx6u6v7xxx9q7l42wr3vx6e28c2ftkj8220vruu
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- ***NEW UPDATES***
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RealHummer
on 29/01/2023, 20:25:53 UTC
⭐ Merited by ChiBitCTy (2) ,owlcatz (1)
I presume with https://titanbtc.com/ being down there's no way for 2FA coin holders to sweep their balance?  Undecided
I havent logged in here for quite awhile. I see not much changed with Tim. I did try the link and it working o I figured I would try to redeem and like before says email ent to me to finish but nothing comes. The website shows fully funded 1 BTC but 0.00 I then put the full address in blockchain and shows it moved on 11/15/2022 with the balance at ZERO. I wish I could say it was me that moved it but not the case. Now Im pissed
12HG4YkQofvpGe2c5k7XRy1hQ5sHQEZ89E
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Please Read!
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RealHummer
on 04/12/2021, 06:36:09 UTC
We've unfortunately had a cascade of issues that have arisen in the process of fixing the website. This isn't uncommon with older sites, and it may be that we need to rebuild the front end from scratch to get the full functionality restored.  I'm looking into all options on getting the website fully functioning as intended as soon as possible.

While the developers are working on the website, I'm working in tandem to organize the info needed to manually redeem all 2FA coins Titan has ever produced.  Once I have a process of notifying owners and collecting current ownership verification, my intention is to deploy that process whether the website is fully functional or not.  I'll update here as I'm getting close to starting that process.

It will take quite a bit of my time, which is obviously my limiting resource in addressing these concerns for everyone, so I'll do my best to prioritize redemptions in order of when a coin owner reached out to us requesting assistance.

Redemption will involve Titan sending the BTC associated with a coin to the requested address.  There is a security risk posed for all Titan coin owners if we send out the Private Keys for these 2FA coins.  To date, I've let people know that we don't have a good solution for distributing forked coins (and there are many forks to consider).  We'll revisit that as we get closer to redeeming everything outstanding.

what about those who bought the coins (so the email and pw are the ones they set up when purchasing) but have then sold the coins and someone else holds them? are you going to contact the original buyer and pay them? I hope not...

and yes there is a security risk when attempting to give them the private key, no matter how you do it but that is the only way they could possibly and easily redeem the forks. what have you done in the past with forked coins when people were actually able to redeem their 2fa coins?
If a coin was sold the new buyer should have done the transfer. To do so you needed the original buyers user and password, the link to do so I think is still working.
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Please Read!
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on 13/11/2021, 16:55:41 UTC
sent you a pm
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Please Read!
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RealHummer
on 13/11/2021, 05:18:41 UTC
⭐ Merited by polymerbit (3)
OK so after talking to Timms mother then finally contacting Timm he is telling me he has no messages or emails from anyone, I call BS!! I know I sent numerous to all his emails, calls, text messages etc. He is telling me he had work done on the servers a few weeks and and last he checked the 2FA was working. Lets hope hes being truthful but I know I am not going away nor sleeping very well. I have 26 Titan .10 that I am going to peel if anyone is interested before I do. I have 2016 1oz gold, 2014 Nickel .10 and a 2013 1.o Silver all non 2FA also
I know I havent been on much in a few years and escrow is fine if any interest. I have been hodling and when BTC went high I decided to login to see what stuff was selling for and that when I came across the Titan post and had a heart attack. Lets hope Timm isnt a scammer and gets more responsive.
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Please Read!
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RealHummer
on 12/11/2021, 21:06:04 UTC

Brother I love ya you know that but you’ve got to understand that this hobby is really not a good idea to begin with.  Not your keys not your coins.


   So true and on the mark. This crap from scammers really proves that point all the way which is unfortunate for people like us who collect these gems.

   Whatever Titans I had, I bought unfunded and if I had any of the recent 0.1btc ones, peeled away. Now its MY KEYS and MY PHYSICAL COIN as well. Just not loaded, so I get to keep the coin itself.

   I sleep better at night for sure knowing my btc is in a Trezor under a mountain somewhere out there.  Wink

   That's why years ago I made the Scammers thread that is pinned on top of our forum, lest people forget of what is out there, especially for new people who are not aware of issues with certain coins.

  

Good advice.
I really didn't want to do this, but I peeled a 2017 .01 Titan today (ICG grade 69) because I couldn't verify first bits or anything about the coin through the Titan site - if it was 2FA or PK, or that it even existed.
I'm happy to report it was loaded. https://imgur.com/a/57WCBDe
I will sleep like Krogoth tonight Smiley


UPDATE:
Got to the bottom of this. Yes, Titan site is broken, this was the error message received when I entered the coins first bits: THAT CODE DOES NOT MATCH ANY KNOWN COINS. PLEASE RETRY YOUR ENTRY.
When same first bits were entered into walletexplorer.com, it took me here https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1KkwyhWYVV9MeM7o7JiUoVMXy1QsSEf4Ky?from_firstbits=1KKwYhWy which made me realize that the address in the URL was wrong, as the third character in the first bits of this addy is lower-case, which you can see referenced in the URL above (1KkwyhWYVV9MeM7o7JiUoVMXy1QsSEf4Ky?from_firstbits=1KKwYhWy). Thanks to some sluething by Krogoth, it was discovered that a 9th character was needed to access the address and original funding TxID on walletexplorer.com. Takeaway is that if you can't find your address on walletexplorer with the 8 visible characters (first bits) on your coins, you might want to cycle through the 16 characters we're all familiar with and see if adding a 9th character finds it before you peel your coin! Every lesson has a price, this one's on me~

Will be raffling off a peeled Titan in the coming days!


I just checked the three 2FA I have and the coin ID doesnt match, link below. I peeled mnDUBW8b put the info in on Titans website to redeem but the page goes blank. I have a pure gold 2016 1GYsziQq and that matches. I have a 2013 Silver 2LWR5VnY and that doesnt match. Neither of these are 2FA

https://www.titanbtc.com/verify/mnDUBW8b/
https://blockchain.info/address/12HG4YkQofvpGe2c5k7XRy1hQ5sHQEZ89E

https://www.titanbtc.com/verify/cN5jzkub/
https://blockchain.info/address/1P4crQC96N5q3u15vc6UqP4XgdQjqJ5iFm

https://www.titanbtc.com/verify/eKCrzHWt/
https://blockchain.info/address/15KGgy1eTBGxnUA6TZNjaSbULCSnz5Fgcy
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Please Read!
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on 12/11/2021, 07:29:08 UTC
Found more contact info




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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Please Read!
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RealHummer
on 12/11/2021, 06:48:35 UTC
IMO if you own a non-2FA Titan you should peel it sooner than later immediately.  It's been over an entire year with no response, and all we can do is speculate at this point, so it would be wiser to speculate a potential scam and peel rather than be sorry down the road.  One of our fellow collectors is a lawyer and have spoken to them a bit about how to approach all this.  What's even more disturbing at this point, and should be a valuable lesson to all of us, is to read the shit out of a coin makers terms of service/use.  I should know better too, as some of the companies I've done scam write ups about before did the same thing Titan did, and wrote in verbiage that basically states after you buy the coin, if anything goes wrong, or if you plan on the website always being up to redeem the 2FA coins, sorry but fuck you Titan takes absolutely zero responsibility and could shut down services or change them at any time.  - https://www.titanbtc.com/terms-of-use/   The fact that the terms were written up like this shows this dudes character.  If you create a 2FA coin then you better keep up with the website and have a succession plan if you become incapacitated or die.  This is alone is enough to show why these coins should never have a 2FA characteristic like this.  

I do not have anything to lose here, as I have never owned any of these 2FAs, but I'm going to do what I can to try and contact this guy and or figure out how to go about helping out/ obtaining legal council for the group.  I will post updates here.  Please come forward if you own any of these either in this thread or privately via DM if you care about getting your money back. I really hope no one is willing to let this slide..if you own any of these and don't want anyone knowing, maybe there is someone else you trust who could come forward on your behalf or something? Tim needs to be held accountable and working together is the best route to trying to solve all this.  Also I'm sure obtaining a lawyer won't be cheap, so the more people there are, the better that will be for everyone of course (If that's even the best way to approach this).

Do we have any idea at all how many were sold?  I know that he refused to release final mintages\addresses..which also is another red flag.

So please chime in if you can help, if you have any ideas, if you're a lawyer and can provide some assistance etc.  These may not be that big of a deal to some of the millionaires here who collect, but they certainly are for plenty of other people so please keep that in mind here.  The more who come forward the better it will be for everyone.  ( I'm sure a decent amount sold to hands who will never see this post..I'm hopeful we can get this fixed so when they go to redeem down the road to buy a car, or put a house payment down or whatever, that they'll be able so.  SMH.


I didn't realize he had a profile here... a neg left Jan 2019, and even one back in 2015.  Has anyone here, or know of anyone who's successfully redeemed a 2FA ever?



I have called and left messages the last 2 days as well as emails. Attached is his reply from 2017 when I purchased 3 1BTC 2FA Coins then 25 .10 from Coins Tim
I did send what info I have to my attorney today for his thoughts and to see how I go about Fraud Charges. Ill keep you posted.


On Sep 12, 2017, at 12:22 AM, Tim Fillmore <tim@titanbtc.com> wrote:

Hi Robert,

To answer you first question, if we need to shut down the website in the future, we will be sending instructions on redeeming 2FA coins to all registered coin owners.  We have tools in place to do this if/when needed.

With that said, if you you're in a hurry to redeem BCH from Titan coins, I recommend that you steer clear of buying secondhand 2FA coins.  We don't yet have a clear security protocol for bitcoin cash storage, and we don't have redemption protocols in place that allow us to securely redeem bitcoin cash for our customers.  The only way to guarantee security of digital currency is with air-gapped storage and redemption and the tools we require just don't exist yet for bitcoin cash.   For those reasons and a few others, we are not currently redeeming BCH for ANY owners of 2FA coins and I can't make any guarantee that we will in the future.  Potential buyers should purchase our 2FA coins with the assumption that they are only worth their value in bitcoin, without any accompanying BCH.  If this changes in the future, we will notify all eligible coin owners.

2FA coins use a proprietary redemption code which allows us to provide an extra layer of protection.  They do not include the private key associated with the coin's Bitcoin address underneath the hologram. While this does mean customers rely on us for redemption, it has also saved dozens of coin owners from significant losses.  The gain of added security at the expense of long term stability still makes sense for some owners.  As such, 2FA coins still do hold their resale value as collectibles and as cold-storage investments.

Lastly, we unfortunately do not have old stock available.  We may be able to connect you with owners or resellers if you have specific coins you're looking for and we'll always do our best to help our owners out.  Let me know what you need.

--
Tim Fillmore
President, Titan Mint
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Please Read!
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RealHummer
on 11/11/2021, 05:20:55 UTC
⭐ Merited by ChiBitCTy (2) ,Hookzup1 (2)
https://www.buzzfile.com/business/Dobidder-Design-Inc.-562-665-1508


I just called and the voice mail says you reached Tim, left a message.
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Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Please Read!
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RealHummer
on 10/11/2021, 16:37:10 UTC
His LinkedIn and FaceBook have all but been deserted with nothing posted for several years.


It appears he was on LinkedIn within the last month

https://www.linkedin.com/in/timfillmore/detail/recent-activity/
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Re: [Auction] 2017 Kialara ’To the Moon’ 0.1 BTC Bar Serial 228/250
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Re: [Auction] 2017 Kialara ’To the Moon’ 0.1 BTC Bar Serial 228/250
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Re: I want to sell my Casascius physical bitcoin 1btc
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RealHummer
on 30/12/2017, 04:16:54 UTC
I have a antminer S9 on ebay for sale and received a message tonight from a buyer. They wanted me to take a picture of my miner with their name next to it. This seems extremely odd to me. I think the name they wanted was 65topazgirl or something like that. This was earlier today and it just hit me its probably someone trying to scam on here, it actually disgusts me all the scumbags out to get you.
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Re: [Auction] 2017 Titan Tenth #34 (MS-69 DCAM)
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RealHummer
on 23/12/2017, 01:34:20 UTC
Blazed -
I sent payment 2 weeks ago  
No confirmation ?
No tracking ?
Did you forget .....?

 

You sure you sent payment to Blazed and not Blazed' or something like it? I fell for the scam on my first dealing here when account was only few days old and luckily wasnt very much money. I told miffman Id take a Satori coin and I received a pm from mifman with the address so I fell for it, if you notice one f not ff. You have to watch all the scumbags on here as posers.