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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 22/07/2025, 20:40:32 UTC
Bitcoin versus gold ownership in the United States according to a new report from River



https://river.com/learn/files/river-america-report-2025.pdf?ref=blog.river.com

Oh, well

..."for years before 2018 estimates [of percentages held by Americans] relied on....search trends, bitcoin forum participation..."  Shocked

...including, I assume, public guesstimates of BCT member stashes.  Cheesy

Seriously, though, I think that this almost 50 mil number is VASTLY overestimated if IBIT/FBTC/MSTR is not counted.


Besides - what is the meaning of gold ownership? Wedding rings and earrings and necklaces don't count? I mean if you had a wedding rings worth of bitcoin you would certainly qualify as a bitcoin owner.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 22/07/2025, 13:18:31 UTC
Or could this become some kind of tax avoidance thing where you never sell but get fiat without creating a taxable event?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 22/07/2025, 09:05:02 UTC
One could use it for leverage. Lend on your coins, buy more, lend on those buy more until they interview you like Michael Saylor.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 21/07/2025, 09:22:58 UTC
⭐ Merited by OutOfMemory (1) ,d_eddie (1) ,vapourminer (1) ,psycodad (1)

what a nice jungle
sometimes one can get lost in
despite it's not large

#latehaiku

Each bush splits in twos
Many trees, all paths hidden. 
The smoker is lost.

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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 18/07/2025, 10:30:08 UTC
⭐ Merited by jojo69 (1)
Cue vivid fantasies of life in Bujumbura in Burundi with a beach front property at Lake Tanganyika. I will just set off on foot now.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 16/07/2025, 06:26:37 UTC
next 20k BTC on the move..

seems that OGs need fiat..

Awkward to see BTC dump against shitcoins

Call it a dump - someone bought and got their order filled at size.

Imagine you just turned a billionaire "on paper" and realized that there are many more people hodling 20k and imagined himself in a prisoner dilemma.
Imagine you wake up and feel the urge to diversify billions. Interesting thought experiment. How many chairs are you sitting on?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 11/07/2025, 06:33:51 UTC
Not going to lie - it's okay
Only 5% to go and Europe sees a new ATH
*** waves little European flag with BTC in the center**
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 10/07/2025, 05:57:46 UTC

+1

Moon girl must meet the chopper @vroom 🙏🏻 🙏🏻 🙏🏻

Chopper + Moon girl bring it on.

Example:


I see how you aim for 150 - there is no resistance to this. After that the numbers go bananas
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 09/07/2025, 09:59:06 UTC
⭐ Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
The price is at $108K and everyone is just acting like this is normal. How high will we have to go before we start seeing crazy fomo? Is that a thing of the past? It seems like everyone has just accepted that Bitcoin is going very high and they can’t afford one. Unit bias really has been Bitcoin’s biggest enemy for adoption.

In last half year Dollar has lost 14% against the Euro. In Euro we are below the new year value. So ... Like ... You know... The rally and bull ISH marker is kinda sideways with a bit down in the other market. I am saying we have seen nothing YET. So you I request that you do not get euphoric yet. There is much upside to be had to break even in terms of buying power.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 03/07/2025, 08:06:00 UTC
⭐ Merited by cAPSLOCK (1)

If we want a new ATH at current exchange rate 1€=1.18$


I cut out the rest of what you said to highlight your glaring mistake.

Nested mistakes.

You will either learn...

...or lose.


(you are valuing what is valuable against an equation of what_is_not_valuable/What_is_less_valuable)

I have unrealised loss of 14% in Euro Vs. BTC

The $ has become clown money and any stable coin has a red nose too
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 03/07/2025, 06:07:27 UTC
⭐ Merited by El duderino_ (10) ,vapourminer (1) ,estenity (1) ,JayJuanGee (1)
NEW ATH TODAY? I CAN FEEL IT - MY BODY IS READY

I cannot feel it. All I see on the Euro/BTC chart is a slight slippage going on as the dollar keeps dumping.

My Data points:
ATH BTC/EUR:  20. Jan 2025     105,812€

If we want a new ATH at current exchange rate 1€=1.18$
The BTC/$ has to be at 124,858

Before that ... Just printed paper storm
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 02/07/2025, 21:24:32 UTC


Good one. It's about time to just graph it on a logarithmic chart.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 25/06/2025, 13:15:45 UTC
This thread is getting a bit heated with religion talks.

I was talking about the war, and it is philipma1957 who came up with some stupid stats and brought religion.


To be fair, Bitcoin is like a religion, too.

EDIT: But better  Cheesy

More a cult or cultish. I mean I have faith and some claim to have seen bitcoin-jesus or have stigma like laser eyes.

But Santoshi White paper or the source code hardly are holly scripture.

Wait - you are right - it is a religion. I too crave tax exemption.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 22/05/2025, 04:30:16 UTC
 Grin ah finally my last position has turned green

The genius act is genius
And I am old enough to appreciate it
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 21/05/2025, 06:32:40 UTC
⭐ Merited by Zeunerts (1) ,Paashaas (1) ,d_eddie (1) ,psycodad (1) ,vapourminer (1) ,Hueristic (1) ,JayJuanGee (1)
Almost a fresh new ATH at the horizon.

Let's go!

Happy for you guys but do you sometimes look at other charts than $/BTC?
We are far from a ATH. Euro Top was 105,9K€ and current price is 95k€
All see is we are high and Trump devalued the dollar by almost 10%

If this is how we get to 120k$ or 180k$ or whatever the celebration will be there but it still tastes bitter.  Because 120k$ is 105,76k€ and not even an ATH in Europe

Yes I am insanely rich by now (compared to being a student back than) but it is still Ramen time
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 09/05/2025, 07:58:46 UTC
Did I miss anything

Yes.

Sub $40k did not happen, and so you lost the bet.

You must owe me something, for all of that hassle.. .

Unless you want the time to keep going and you think sub $40k is still possible.

69 🤮
99 🥰

Welcome 🤗

$69k

$99k

What is the difference?

It does feel a wee bit different.

I am all for the upswing

But you $-Dudes can relebrate a fake win. Since Trump's trade war the $ has devalued quite a bit and € has to wait quite a while longer for ATH

People make the deflation bullshit claims so frequently, and it is almost retarded because of the whining narrowness of the vision. 

Essentially, my 0.63+ BTC buys way the fuck more right now as compared to what it bought in 2019 when BTC prices were bouncing between $3,200 and $13,880.  You gotta zoom out a wee bit if you want to appreciate that bitcoin is going up way faster than the dollar debasement is bringing the dollar down.  You can also look at the 200-WMA to appreciate the ongoing upward slope of such bottom indicator. 

Hopefully you are not over thinking these matters and trying to proclaim some kind of a gotcha that does not exist in bitcoin , even though it exists in many of the other assets that are barely appreciating at the same rate that the dollar is debasing.

Snap out of it SaintFlow!!!!!

Thanks for the reply
I will snap out of it when my positions turn green.
I bought several times on the way down from 100k€
Sofar you guys can celebrate - I am not there yet. The devalued $ scale will work out in the long run for a better bullrun on chart.

When it crossed 100k$ on 25. Nov 94k€
When it crossed 100k$ yesterday in € we barely touched 90k

I don't doubt it will happen eventually
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 08/05/2025, 09:55:44 UTC
⭐ Merited by LFC_Bitcoin (3) ,d_eddie (1) ,philipma1957 (1)
I am all for the upswing

But you $-Dudes can relebrate a fake win. Since Trump's trade war the $ has devalued quite a bit and € has to wait quite a while longer for ATH
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 05/03/2025, 14:29:04 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1) ,d_eddie (1)
am i in the right pain zone? seems there are more than one

Wall observer pain zone management here. Please describe your problem! Where did the evil chart touch you?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 05/03/2025, 14:02:17 UTC
Not going to lie, falling from $109,000 to $78,000 was rather unsettling, for me at least. I know we’ve HODLED through similar and even worse corrections in previous bull markets, percentage wise. But for me, it feels a lot worse when you’re watching your net worth dump by so much money. The money involved now is so much more than it was when our coins were losing $40 each per day or something at the same % dip as we saw from $109,000 to $78,000.
Exactly this! Seeing your net worth (FIAT-wise) decrease drastically feels the worst this cycle. But don't forget 1BTC=1BTC. 

I get 1Btc=1Btc
But do you really stare at the exchange and feel great that your Bank account suddenly increases in terms of BTC or do you mostly look at the exchange and hallucinate a net worth? A little of both perhaps?

Also regarding to your previous post - is there such a thing as propaganda free media - besides the bitcoin network itself?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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SaintFlow
on 04/03/2025, 10:07:05 UTC
Could be the so called "art of the deal" bullshit where you ask for something stupid that no one will accept then downgrade to just Bitcoin as a compromise. But it's not actually a compromise as that's all you wanted the whole time.
Maybe the art of the steal
Or
Pump and Trump?