I'm all with you that bitcoins time is running out. And I do think that Ethereum will become king soon too BUT Ripple and Stellar? WTF? ^^

Most likely those "price will explode tomorrow" thead starters lost a god chunk of money and now try to convince new people to buy more btc so the price will go up again so they can get rid of their btc without too much butthurt. BUT threads like this have zero impact on the trading market because the market is much to big these days. ^^

Well, seems like I was right, huh? Your 01.25.2018 changed nothing, in fact the price is even lower right now. ^^

That is true. The handful of people on Bitcointalk do have a marginal impact on BTC if they have one at all. But apart from the newbies that were fooled by some ponzi like BitConnect there are old traders like me too that think that BTC is beyond it's prime because of the fees. Right now you can do NOTHING with BTC but trading. That is truly REALY BAD for something that wants to be a currency. ^^ If you can't buy anything with BTC then the real value is ZERO! And the second people realize this is when BTC will go down hard. And yes, of course this will bring down all the other crypto currencies too. The thing is that this is not a problem it is the cure because the hype & the high price that followed the hype was nothing but a tulip bubble. The hype also leaded to the high fees (because they are bonded to the price) and the fees made BTC become useless. And as I said before a currency that is useless is without any real value. And anyone that isn't new to trading should remember the MW Medical Hype back in the early years of this century. It was exactly the same back then, every poor newbie and it's grandmother thought they could become rich in no time without any knowledge but this is not how trading works. It's so easy to burn billions  from sheeps that think they are wolves.

Sorry but your posting is the perfect example for what is wrong with the bitcoin community. ^^ It was designed to be a currency and guess what the best currencies are "boring" as fuck. But 90% of the people that are in bitcoin now don't now shit about currencies, markets, rules and other stuff. They are stupid "OMG, I want to be rich tomorrow." fools The fun part is that these people are the ones that make the smarter people earn money. And right now every newbie is late to the party. I bought my bitcoins 4 years ago and I sold them 4 weeks ago. I made decent money over that 4 years but even that was a.) a very short period of time to earn that much money and b) it was way more than what I expected. But right now it is like almost everyone thinks he has to become rich in no time while the hype train already has left the station.

The only thing that the Lightning Network will solve is the freedom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&list=PLS2jzUiKplo_ANYo9uhhkg9Yt4cv_jgk1

Stripe canceled bitcoin (about 4 hours ago on heise)...... so yes tomorrow there will be a change. ^^

Well, I bought mine almost 4 years ago and I sold them about 4 weeks ago. I think I can live with that even when the price will go up to lets say 50.000.

The thing is even then it makes no sence. If they had sold all when the price started to drop  and would buy again when the price start to raise again then they would still make way more money than with holding.

Well it is perfectly fair because ICO = Ponzi.

May I ask why? Holding while the price is falling is almost as stupid as selling while the price is climbing!

Bitcoin was designed for trading btc for items, it was designed as an alternative to fiat but now the majority of it's users do not even know how to use crypto currencies. In my opinion every country should take a solid 80% tax. That way all the fiat assholes would drive away from bitcoin, the price would go back to maybe 120$ and it would again become the beloved crypto currency it once was.

NO IT IS NOT! Who that is not completely out of his mind would buy anything when the fee is 25$? Of course you can pay a lower fee but then you have to wait 3 or more days before they can deliver the food.

Tomorrow will change nothing because the main problem of bitcoin does not change (BTC unusable for anything but trading thanks to the fees). That's why I'm happy that I went completely out of this coin weeks ago. Bitcoin is already doomed while we speak (so are almost all the current crypto currencies).

I'm ready to be stoned for my next words but I'm pretty sure that the problem will be solved within the next 2-3 years because at this point >90% of all people have moved on to other coins (because you can't do shit with bitcoin anymore). I expect bitcoin to become finally stable at about 250$ in 2020 or 2021. 

Sadly that is exactly the way I'm thinking about the lightning network. For me it's not a solution it's the final nail in the coffin.

I really love doge and it's crazy community but for some strange reason not too many people seem to like doge. :/

Only a few years ago we had a growing number of shops here in berlin that you were able to buy food and/or drinks from for bitcoin. Right now there are no more of these stores left. And most of the sellers I used to buy things from on the big marketplaces now refuse to trade bitcoin too and changed to etherium. I know for those people that think that bitcoin is the new gold it is not that bad but bitcoin was "released" to be something completely different. Right now bitcoin is no real crypto currency at all. Buy a coffee for 2,5 bucks and pay 25 bucks fee.... sure.......... In my opinion bitcoin completely failed because of these fees and I sold every last satoshi and invested in other crypto currencies. Is there a single reason to stick to bitcoin? If yes, please feel free to tell me!

Im Ernst jetzt? Auf sowas fallen noch immer Leute rein?  Hammerhart! 

Danke für den Input. Werd mir dann wohl mal eine TenX zulegen.