You don't understand it. If Fairlay allows this when Pinnacle matches bets Pinnacle will be taking the loss. Every cheater out there will come out paying off ping pong players and tennis players. Fairlay has to take a stand on cheaters or Pinny will never match bets. Fairlay wants to stop this gang from cheating.

How does an official ruling on match fixing make any difference in the payout? There are three suspicious matches every day and the bookmaker can't withhold money for a year on three matches every day waiting for some type of league administration to rule. The investigations may not even start for a month and most don't start. We have to stay in the real world instead of making stuff up on how it should be done. The bookmaker makes the decision since no one has any idea if an investigation will be started. The bookmakers marked the match as suspicious even the ones that paid.

This shows your stupidity. Fairlay stopped posting a month ago. They aren't going to pay someone with a burner account to continue this crap show where you twist their words. It's just as stupid as thinking a bookmaker waits for authorities to determine fixed matches. It's the bookmakers opinion that counts.

Haunbu, LFC Bitcoin, Rating Place




Don't try and change the normal procedure. The bookmaker has always made the decision on their opinion. The mediator should do the same.

Bookmakers would be withholding money for years if they had to wait to see how an authority would rule. Tiny markets don't get investigated. The bookmaker makes the decision in tiny markets on their opinion and it's never going to change. It's been done that way forever. You are trying to make up your own rules.

It can even take a year for major leagues to start being investigated. Brazils Serie A and Serie B
https://editi[Suspicious link removed]/2023/05/11/football/brazil-soccer-match-fixing-investigation-spt-intl/index.html#:~:text=Brazilian%20soccer%20has%20become%20embroiled%20in%20a%20match%2Dfixing%20scandal.&text=Brazilian%20authorities%20have%20launched%20a,in%20a%20statement%20on%20Wednesday.

How many times do I have to say it. THE POLICE DON"T INVESTIGATE MOST FIXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now look at this game. No one will investigate and close to no one watched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4rC7403Dc4

What's interesting is that three posters with activity over 3000 say the match was fixed. Most with less say it wasn't fixed. See the difference. If no other major bookmakers took large wagers than no one is going to look in to this fixed match. Hundreds of matches are fixed in football, tennis, ping pong. Even if it is investigated it can take a year and the bookmaker has to make a quick decision.

Crossing your mind is different than stating the obvious that the match was fixed. I'll sum it up hoping the thread gets closed. Fairlay doesn't always act as an exchange. If Fairlay or Pinnacle allows cheating then this group will start paying off ping pong players and others looking for fast money. Fairlay or Pinnacle decided to go with high limits and not pay cheaters instead of small limits.

I'm trying to teach you that that it's common for very low level football matches to be fixed and no investigations are done and the bookmaker makes the decision.

We need an expert to answer that but I, Haunebu, LFC Bitcoin, Rating Place have all said it's most likely fixed.

It was a reply to AHOYBRAUSE. Lower level football matches are fixed with no investigation many times and the year doesn't matter. Even you said "the user took advantage of fixed matches in a pretty transparent manner and expected to get away since your site is a betting exchange." It doesn't matter if the bettor was Ukranian and also Fairlay never waivered on mediation since they kept asking for applicants and no one was agreeing to be the sole mediator. No one seemed right in the thread and I made corrections. No one can signup for Fairlay so it really doesn't matter what people try to do with their reputation. I'm a very large player there and got in just before they stopped taking signups. 

Everyone got this wrong so this is a teaching post. The bettor doesn't need to be doxed. A stooge is used to bet. The bookmaker makes the decision on fixed matches in small leagues. Only one or two bookmakers will take the hit on large wagers in small league fixed matches. No one else is going to care about these wagers so they aren't going to be looked at and they aren't going to be published anywhere as fixed matches. The evidence is overwhelming that these matches are fixed. Fairlay shouldn't have even asked for mediation. Fairlay asked for one mediator. Gosu and Holydarkness didn't accept being the sole mediator. Fairlay then asked for applications so that one mediator could be properly vetted. Fairlay never backed out or wavered on mediation. No one applied here or wanted to be the sole mediator. Fairlay wasn't going to agree to a panel or other suggestions. Not even Gosu and Holydarkness were qualified to mediate. Fairlay got their mediator three weeks ago and this thread should have been locked. I've never had contact with Fairlay so don't go that route. I'm using a burner account because I don't want to be involved in the same character assassination given to Fairlay.