Just saw a new SistemKoin scam a week ago. It was such obvious bull**** - from the $19 per 'WIZ' coin airdrop offering and the thousands $$$ each person could get for the airdrop tasks or even using a ticker symbol from another crypto that's been around a long time. Misspelled words and other ridiculous nonsense on the whitepaper and topped off with a website address that didn't resolve anywhere. Even the domain name wasn't registered, which would have at least made the scam more believable. They probably didn't want to waste the $5.99 at GoDaddy. I can't believe people still fall for this garbage. I feel sorry for them.

The real problem is the scammers themselves hardly ever get caught and if so, aren't really punished. I think their stealing and thieving is all because they just weren't beaten hard enough and long enough when they were growing up. I bet there's 10 or 20 thousand people out there now who are damn sick and tired of being ripped off and would like to help these thieves with all those missing beatings now, though.

@Adam556
@grahamlyons

Only fools allow people to steal from them and "get over it"   You can allow people to steal from you if you like. That's not something I look away from and pretend it didn't happen.

Why do you come here and say "not a scam just look" or "legitimate" when the evidence with account numbers, dates, etc is posted here in black and white?  Those transaction numbers proving theft and stealing are an UNDENYABLE benefit of using the blockchain. ABSOLUTE, UNQUESTIONABLE, INARGUABLE PROOF OF THEFT.  

I can only think of 2 or 3 reasons people who would post like you and the same couple others do.   The first, owner or employee/relative from the scam company.  The second, someone who doesn't know how to look up the transaction and wallet numbers posted here.  The third, maybe a coinpot user blindly hoping that Coinpot sees their posts with remarks like "get over it" and "not a scam" and they do it thinking coinpot won't screw them also.  

Or is your point that they are a legitimate company if they only steal a little bit of money from a small percentage of users?  Well by that logic, how much is ok to steal?    $100 is ok but $101 isn't?   How about just $10 from 1000 people? How about just $2 from 500 people?

Paying most but stealing from some is still stealing. That is NOT the way a "legitimate" company operates.  

Thousands of companies around the world answer their emails except coinpot and address problems to resolution, ESPECIALLY customers with problems because they are worried about how everybody else using the service will see that. That way, that customer with the loss doesn't complain and keep taking action so that they don't have a negative effect on future profits. Legitimate companies know if $20 is lost by a customer and it looks bad, it could cost them thousands of dollars later.  You don't have to go to a business college to know that.

That's twice in only a couple days now users have reported a withdrawal working, but only after 3 previous withdrawals were "seized" and never saw again. It may be after the fact but if you have screenshots, other's here may not get screwed like we have if you have them and can post them.

Makes me wonder if some week they just stop paying EVERYONE and just disappear.

Another huge company did that recently and billions of dollars were stolen from families who didn't do anything wrong, their houses were lost and lives were ruined. Many were surprised to wake up bankrupt and broke the day Bitconnect took the money and ran.

Anybody here think Bitconnect was the very last dishonest company and we'll never have to worry about that again?

What kind of warning signs would you look for to see that happening again?  Think about it.

That's right. That's EXACTLY how ours were until they weren't anymore.

I appreciate your advice. That is exactly what I did the first 5 or 6 times I emailed. I gave them an out, or an excuse, about why it wasn't credited... such as: "maybe some system problem going on is gonna take an extra couple days to fix my deposit, I understand"  (summation, not an exact quote)  Each time, no response, no money. I understand our reporting is prefaced by rage, anger, (caps - visually annoying and prejudiced on the net) are what is seen and judged here, silencing the message.

However, I did not start there, and many others didn't either. It took being wronged without any explanation, NOT EVEN an automated message. Some, being called "scammers" just because they voiced their complaint publicly after no response at all, had enough. I think that the emotional response is maybe not the proper etiquette, but it certainly is absolutely normal, expected human behaviour, as long as you're not a psychopath.  

I'll be posting all of those unanswered emails showing such, as well soon. I'll also be posting read receipts, showing they were opened and read with no response.

Alrighty, here's the screenshots as promised, proving my wallet ---> blockchain -----> Coinpot's Wallet and never credited to my account.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9kPV2PTWX-s6obf4kpfe8KgH_K8TFG-/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FmpE1w_-Sa03DSf1BDlH-Fe0NuHj7yo2/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UC625qcyecnlHE5QC6CmSpf7xLWTxhA2/view?usp=sharing



Address MDRQBoxpk6XqEdDhjH7v5trwr9ijYLcM7V
Balance 5 minutes after send   0.20501074 / $17.648
Number of transactions   1
Friday, June 29, 2018 12:57:59 PM   1,447,938    713b4181356fc26435042a8cfe0aa92ed6dc4c376e5980dd5851fc546532513c


Off to Reddit and a few other forums. .  

Well, that's just weird and doesn't fit what they said again. Here's their exact wording:

" If we confirm and agree that the use is fraudulent/cheating then the accounts are suspended - which means withdrawal is cancelled."   

So, suspended but paying anyway?  Beginning to see why they don't answer questions ever. I wouldn't want to have to answer that on the SAME DAY they just said the exact opposite of that.

Was it today you got your DOGE withdrawal?  Just asking to get the timeline.

Then, if you're so hip to what's right and what's wrong, just for ONE minute pretend all these people are not lying. They're telling the truth and they're emotional. They're mad because they've been stolen from. They're mad because they get punished with no real explanation and cannot understand what they did wrong.

Now, what if that was you. Where would you tell others about it? You wouldn't just stuff it in and be quiet, you'd want to let it out. Where to do that? Here seems logical to me. This thread is perfectly titled for it.

What if lots of people started letting it out. Suddenly, Coinpot provides an answer that calls all of the complainers "scammers" and "we can't tell you why... but they're scammers?"    
They don't even acknowledge, explain or justify stealing deposits and the PROOF IS straight up the page.
They don't ever write back.
And yet, they STILL promise to.  
Why hide? Why defend themselves now? Why still no answers to the REAL questions with proof?

So, what if you're wrong? It happens, right?  I guarantee scammers don't have the willingness, patience, affect, or smarts to stay mad (but be faking it all)   These people have PROOF. EVIDENCE. AS I DO.  EVIDENCE IS believable. "you're a scammer"  is name calling and opinion. No proof offered or shown and if you dare speak out, YOU'RE A SCAMMER? Does that REALLY make any sense to you? Really?

Who I'm helping by the way, as you said it wasn't helping anyone....  is the next person who comes along, about to get snaked out of their money, exactly what happened to me.  If just one person doesn't get there money stolen, I've helped. Who are you helping anyway?
 
If I was placing a bet, I'd go with evidence every time. Not the name calling.  That is how the justice system works, by the way. You can argue all you want with opinion and feelings. YOU CANNOT ARGUE PROVABLE FACTS SUPPORTED BY THE BLOCKCHAIN..... THAT'S THE POINT OF CRYPTO.  If you argue against that or ignore the claims with proof like Coinpot did today, you only look dishonest or you look like a complete moron.

That's it? That's all you have? Stupid jokes?  

Why not answer the question.  Where's the money? Simple enough question. Well?  

Anyone who emails and gets the usual silence and lack of any explanation is a cheater? How convenient.
I HAVE NEVER CHEATED COINPOT OR ANY OTHER WALLET, FAUCET, OR ONLINE MERCHANT ANYWHERE. EVER.

ALL I WANTED WAS MY DEPOSIT CREDITED AND NOT STOLEN.
WHY WERE ALL THE MISSING DEPOSITS REPORTED NOT ADDRESSED?

THERE'S JUST NO WAY EVER THAT THE PROMISE TO RETURN EMAILS FROM US IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

Otherwise, Coinpot would have to explain the stolen deposits.  

DEPOSITS ARE NOT YOUR MONEY COINPOT.

KEEP THE FAUCET MONEY AND KEEP THE REVENUE YOU ALSO MADE FROM THE ADVERTISING AND KICK EVERYBODY OUT.

BUT DEPOSITS ARE NOT YOURS TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

THAT IS STEALING.

THAT IS THEFT.

THAT MONEY IS NOT YOURS.

IT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU.


How many more people like me do you think it will take for Coinpot to know right from wrong anyway?

I guess we'll see. I'm just getting warmed up.

I've posted this evidence in 3 different places here.
You - don't have any idea if it's the "vast majority of us" or a slim minority.
I can prove my claim. Can you? Stop the name calling and POST YOUR EVIDENCE
I even offered to post it again if you couldn't find it.
So, your response is that I "haven't posted evidence?"  
I absolutely have. But, to make it reeeeeeal easy even a kindergardener could find it, here ya go.  IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST.
Go ahead, investigate it this time BEFORE saying something else like evidence of stealing doesn't matter, only your 2 withdrawals. It could be you next time.  

How many people complaining makes it believable to you? 10 more? 100 more? 1000 more?  How many?
If it was my business, ONE COMPLAINT is all I'd need to be EITHER kissing that customer's butt and fixing the problem OR posting proof of their scamming.
But we don't see any of that, do we?  


How about this... at the bottom of their "official" thread?

CP:  This is an official SELF-MODERATED ANNOUNCEMENT thread. Its purpose is for service announcements and we are also happy for general constructive discussion about CoinPot.

NOBODY CAN POST. THERE IS NO "CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT COINPOT"

CP:  This thread is NOT for support requests - please email us at support@coinpot.co for that. It is also NOT for trolling, abuse or basically anything that we don't like! Any posts that fall into these categories is likely to be "moderated" (i.e removed). Don't like that? Sorry, but not sorry - that's how forums work. If you are a scammer that we have caught out or a troll or just generally a bitter, malicious person then please feel free to start your own thread where you can rip us to pieces Smiley

"That's how forums work?"  NO, THEY DON'T.
I'm only bitter and malicious when my family is stolen from.  That's NOT how any business works. And you HIDE.

CP:  Thread locked - seriously, did nobody read the paragraph above! Support is always available at support@coinpot.co
  
OH, All I have to do is email support@coinpot.co   Why didn't I think of that?
WHAT A JOKE.   GO AHEAD, EMAIL. THEN HOLD YOUR BREATH FOR AN ANSWER.  

If they're not underhanded and have malicious intent or stealing, WHY DON'T THEY ANSWER EMAILS?  
Do you know ANY LEGITIMATE COMPANY who does THAT?



Evidence previously posted:

End of June or so:

"Been with CoinPot a year now. I deposited 0.2 Litecoin over a week ago. Shows up in the blockchain just fine but no credit at CoinPot. Yes, I've withdrawn from there before, usually without problem, 1 time they delayed the withdrawal an extra 4 days. This time was a CoinPot generated LTC deposit address. They had the deposit in 5 minutes. They did not and have not credited the account to this day. They won't respond to emails and the "email has been read" receipts I get say they're looking at them, without resolution or reply.  

Before anybody starts the finger wagging for making a deposit,  was done since they're A LOT cheaper than Changely or some other currency exchange. The whole point was to top off another currency and move it. Perfectly within the rules.  

Address MDRQBoxpk6XqEdDhjH7v5trwr9ijYLcM7V
Balance   0.20501074 / $17.648
Number of transactions   1
Friday, June 29, 2018 12:57:59 PM   1,447,938    713b4181356fc26435042a8cfe0aa92ed6dc4c376e5980dd5851fc546532513c"

I've got screenshots also, and will dig them up if asked.

Any of you CoinPot cheerleaders catching the scent yet?  This is how it goes, EXACTLY.

"Buddy,"  I've written EXACTLY what you've written a hundred times in these forums. They don't take from new users and it's never hundreds and hundreds of dollars in one shot. They take just a small amount from those who've been around so they can still have more cheerleaders than the one or two who show up boo-ing, saying things like you've just said. How many people do you think have the time to complain over $15 or $20 USD? How many have they done this to who haven't said anything?  I didn't say they were stupid; they're very clever actually.

I've got plenty of proof, just ask and I'll post it if you can't find it on these boards.   

By the way, moving on means some other person get scammed out of their family's Friday night meal, hooker money or bus fair. Whatever, it's the user's money, not Coinpot's. I don't know why, in the face of evidence how anyone could just walk by someone else being hurt and ignore it. Seeing something bad happening and not taking action is the same as participating.

You don't have to believe me, but I will post proof again and again if needed. I just hope you stand up when it happens to you.

How is depositing crypto INTO Coinpot a violation?  I've never, ever, NEVER violated terms. Put up with the Loooooong captchas that say need to try again, the forever non-responding email "support" when there's a problem or a withdrawal that gets delayed over and over for NO reason with no explanation? I have read the T.O.S. again and again. Yet, I get my deposit taken away with NO EXPLANATION?   

Everyone starts out wonderful at Coinpot. You notice yet that the complaints come from people who've been there a long time? You notice yet the complaints are ALWAYS:   

1) Missing Deposits
2) Denied withdrawal and afterwards you receive and automated email stating "we're not gonna' due to violation of T.O.S.
3) 2FA Lost and no response EVEN THOUGH THE FRONT PAGE SAYS EMAIL SUPPORT IF YOU CAN'T ENTER 2FA CODE, so if you wanted all that crypto you worked the faucets for, TOO BAD

- If they actually know someone is using a bot to claim from faucets, why wait WEEKS until they try try to withdrawal, then email them saying the account is suspended? Wouldn't a scammer withdrawal as soon as they hit the minimum amount? Why is it always something much higher? Why is it always AFTER someone has saved up a good amount to withdraw and not just the minimum?

- Why do so many deposits go missing and leave the account they were sent to even with proof from screenshots and transaction numbers as proof?

- Why do they physically open and read emails but never respond? ("your email has been read" notices)  Why no response EVER to emails?

Give me a good reason for all of those things. Just one explanation that fits it all. Look at every complaint made. 99% fall into those few categories. That is not an accident or coincidence; that is a pattern of behavior.  Establishing trust and subsequently stealing goods or services with monetary value is exactly what these people report. A true scammer using a bot isn't going to go through all the trouble of posting screenshots and complaining and sounding like a newb, when they can just make a new account. The complainants here are not faking it.
 

You should read this entire thread and not be bragging so much. You should also post proof - transaction numbers, etc.  I only say that because that's EXACTLY how the rest of us who were cheated started out - comfortable, singing about how wonderful they are. Posting proof is evidence and won't be considered slander. It will also provide the others here who are trying to feed their family, warning to not trust them. Your loss can still do some good.

Let me ask, if you were going to steal and had a website like theirs, would you do it immediately to your customers or only do it to those who felt comfortable by being there 6 months or a year?  If they get one complaint but 10 others positive remarks saying "They're legitimate and trustworthy" it makes you look like some lonely idiot. (not calling names, making a point, friend.) 

Criminals are not usually very smart. The people at Coinpot are, and they've been doing this alot longer than we have. You have to be smarter.

You have been permanently banned. They always give that answer "contact if you think it's a mistake" and you'll never get a response.

You should know that if you don't change these things listed below, they will know it's you again.

IP address   (your internet identifying parking place)
Network hardware mac address  (Network interface card - WiFi, Cabled, Modem, etc)
Login information (email address)
Wallet address   (DASH, BTC, LTC, whatever)  SENT TO PRIVATE WALLET - NOT ANOTHER ONLINE WALLET.
Machine name   (your computer's name on a network)
Browser Information   (google "what can websites see from my browser") you'll understand.

There's no getting your money back.   It's gone. If you want to still earn, take out at the bare minimums and play the odds. Keep your head low, no emails complaining about anything, farm those faucets and withdrawal. Expect not to ever get the withdrawals and only rejoice when they're in your private wallet.

Cancelling email confirmation of a withdrawal would be an absolutely stupid and an enormous security risk. If someone hacks your CP account, they cannot withdrawal your money unless they also have hacked your email. Understand? As far as people depositing money into Coinpot, one reason was made pretty clear in the post preceding yours.

Not being a smart ass to you, just trying to head off the replies that say even more thoughtless things like "email Coinpot support" or "Only Coinpot support will be able to help you so try them"

Been with CoinPot a year now. I deposited 0.2 Litecoin over a week ago. Shows up in the blockchain just fine but no credit at CoinPot. Yes, I've withdrawn from there before, usually without problem, 1 time they delayed the withdrawal an extra 4 days. This time was a CoinPot generated LTC deposit address. They had the deposit in 5 minutes. They did not and have not credited the account to this day. They won't respond to emails and the "email has been read" receipts I get say they're looking at them, without resolution or reply. 

Before anybody starts the finger wagging for making a deposit,  was done since they're A LOT cheaper than Changely or some other currency exchange. The whole point was to top off another currency and move it. Perfectly within the rules.   

Address MDRQBoxpk6XqEdDhjH7v5trwr9ijYLcM7V
Balance   0.20501074 / $17.648
Number of transactions   1
Friday, June 29, 2018 12:57:59 PM   1,447,938    713b4181356fc26435042a8cfe0aa92ed6dc4c376e5980dd5851fc546532513c

Been with CoinPot a year now. I deposited 0.2 Litecoin over a week ago. Shows up in the blockchain just fine but no credit at CoinPot. Yes, I've withdrawn from there before, usually without problem. This time was a CoinPot generated LTC deposit address. They had the money in 5 minutes. They did not and have not credited the account to this day. They won't respond to emails and the "email has been read" receipts I get say they're looking at them, without resolution or reply. 

So, what do you call that?

Address MDRQBoxpk6XqEdDhjH7v5trwr9ijYLcM7V
Balance   0.20501074 / $17.648
Number of transactions   1
Friday, June 29, 2018 12:57:59 PM   1,447,938    713b4181356fc26435042a8cfe0aa92ed6dc4c376e5980dd5851fc546532513c