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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 17/05/2016, 09:50:24 UTC
Quick question, in your communication with them, you mention that you were not able to find a solution before closing down the account. This means there was an issue with the account or your funds before. What was it?
Looks like there is a misunderstanding. They have closed my account unilaterally. We have resolved all questions before, month or two ago.
I made a withdraw, after a week of waiting, they closed my account.

Why you are trying to defend them? There is no reason in any way, when they can leave customers money to them. Or you think otherwise?
stereotype
Just did. Thank you.
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Re: Bitstamp удерживает мои деньги уже две недели.
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Slavec89
on 17/05/2016, 08:54:57 UTC
Как не странно, но я только что получил письмо от саппорта. Самое главное в нем: "we will instruct our payments department to process the transfer as soon as possible.".
Хорошо, если правда, будем ждать.


Продолжаем держать в курсе событий  Smiley
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 17/05/2016, 08:48:09 UTC
Okay guys, as I can see that nothing is happening from their side, I can call them SCAMMERS. And suggest to everyone to be more aware to do business with them.

I was verified. I didn't avoid talks with them. I had more then 30k on my balance. And got banned, and scammed for full balance.
All what they have told me, is that I will receive my money, and that I can ask they any questions in future, but what the point if they have stopped to answer on them? Last message from them was received on 9 MAY 2016.
http://i.imgur.com/3X7xhrV.png
http://i.imgur.com/b742BZZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/6VaIHji.png
Any email from bitstamp(info or support) is keeping silence from my email. Don't see any reason to try to send from other email about my person, pretty sure that will be ignored too.

We have do business with that exchange for a 6 months, and everything was fine. And when I have tried to cash out, I have been blocked. Looks like they have waited when amount on my balance will be big enough, and only then scammed.

When I just verified my account, I have transfered from BTC-E about 32k$ on bitstamp. I think there is a option how to proof that, even without having access to my account.
I have deleted hugest transaction from this amount, from bitstamp mail, but the small one is showing that all sums was send to same wallet. Anyway, screenshots will show my point:
http://i.imgur.com/CqFBWGr.png
http://imgur.com/a/DKybT
http://i.imgur.com/92mgmX5.png

To everyone else, please send link on this theard to support on Bitstamp. And take all your money from this scamming exchange, don't think that you will avoid such fade as I.
At least, before I did not got my money back. If I will not get them, you should loose your dreams, when your own money is on this exchange.

I am able to show my emails by showing screen in skype or any other program to anyone, who have power to help me.

Right now I am waiting from you guys any suggestions what to do. I really need your support.

You were asking for BTC to be sent to a Bitcoin addy, where, Bitstamp have specifically asked for your funds to be exclusively converted into $ so they can send to your registered bank account. Have you fully converted into $?
Yeah, at the same hour. And after that I got my account deleted.


Just got an anwer from their support(wow), main point is "we will instruct our payments department to process the transfer as soon as possible."
Sounds like a good news. Hope its true.
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Re: Bitstamp удерживает мои деньги уже две недели.
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Slavec89
on 17/05/2016, 08:39:03 UTC
Ну все парни, так как ничего до вторника не произошло, то как я и планировал, могу смело заявить что данная биржа Bitstamp.net кидает людей. И НЕ рекомендую иметь с ними дело НИКОМУ вообще.

У меня был подтвержденный аккаунт, я не избегал разговоров с ними. У меня на балансе было больше 30 тысяч. И я в итоге все равно был забанен, и пока что кинут на всю сумму.
Все что они мне сказали, это то что я получу свои деньги, и они могут помочь мне с любым дальнейшим вопросом по почте, если таковой будет. Ну и апогей, что последний ответ от них пришел 9 Мая 2016 года. Отвечают они, ага.
http://i.imgur.com/3X7xhrV.png
http://i.imgur.com/b742BZZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/6VaIHji.png
Любая из почт данной биржы, будь то почта информации или поддержки, упорно игнорируют письма от меня. Не вижу причин спрашивать про свой аккаунт из других почтовых сервисов, само собой результат будет тот же. Не могут же они не получать письма с сервиса gmail? :-)

Я успешно пользовался услугами данной биржи на протяжении 6 месяцев, и все шло нормально. А когда я попытался вывести значительную часть средств, они просто тупо заблокировали мой аккаунт. Судя по всему они ждали когда на моем балансе будет побольше средств, чтобы срезать побольше сливок.

Когда я только подтвердил свой аккаунт, я перевел с биржи BTC-E на их биржу 32 тысячи долларов. Думаю это можно проверить имея номер кошелька. Тут проблема в том что подтверждающее письмо от штампа на большую часть суммы я удалил, а на меньшую у меня осталось(не знаю чем тогда думал). Но суть не в этом, оба перевода было на один кошелек, и раз пришел один перевод, то и второй приходил. В общем по скринам понятней:
http://i.imgur.com/CqFBWGr.png
http://imgur.com/a/DKybT
http://i.imgur.com/92mgmX5.png

В общем ребят, большая просьба отправить ссылку на эту тему в саппорт штампа. И настоятельно рекомендую выводить все деньги от этих кидал, не думайте что вам удастся избежать такой же судьбы которую получил я.
По крайней мере не рекомендую этих граждан, пока я не получил свои деньги назад. Если у биржи проблемы, то лучше выводить деньги на легком старте.
Если я не получу свои деньги назад, вам не следует мечтать и думать что вас такое не коснется, раз коснулось меня - то любой другой так же под ударом. Теряйте сон как и я, если у вас есть счет на данном обменнике.

Я покажу любому человеку, кто сможет как то повлиять на ситуацию, вид со своего экрана, все почты и все переводы. Через скайп или другую программу которая позволяет это делать.

На данный момент я готов выслушать план действий от любого. Мне реально нужна поддержка от вас ребят. Как и где хайпить, кто с этим может помочь и прочее. Нельзя оставлять это дело просто так.
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 17/05/2016, 08:25:19 UTC
Okay guys, as I can see that nothing is happening from their side, I can call them SCAMMERS. And suggest to everyone to be more aware to do business with them.

I was verified. I didn't avoid talks with them. I had more then 30k on my balance. And got banned, and scammed for full balance.
All what they have told me, is that I will receive my money, and that I can ask they any questions in future, but what the point if they have stopped to answer on them? Last message from them was received on 9 MAY 2016.
http://i.imgur.com/3X7xhrV.png
http://i.imgur.com/b742BZZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/6VaIHji.png
Any email from bitstamp(info or support) is keeping silence from my email. Don't see any reason to try to send from other email about my person, pretty sure that will be ignored too.

We have do business with that exchange for a 6 months, and everything was fine. And when I have tried to cash out, I have been blocked. Looks like they have waited when amount on my balance will be big enough, and only then scammed.

When I just verified my account, I have transfered from BTC-E about 32k$ on bitstamp. I think there is a option how to proof that, even without having access to my account.
I have deleted hugest transaction from this amount, from bitstamp mail, but the small one is showing that all sums was send to same wallet. Anyway, screenshots will show my point:
http://i.imgur.com/CqFBWGr.png
http://imgur.com/a/DKybT
http://i.imgur.com/92mgmX5.png

To everyone else, please send link on this theard to support on Bitstamp. And take all your money from this scamming exchange, don't think that you will avoid such fade as I.
At least, before I did not got my money back. If I will not get them, you should loose your dreams, when your own money is on this exchange.

I am able to show my emails by showing screen in skype or any other program to anyone, who have power to help me.

Right now I am waiting from you guys any suggestions what to do. I really need your support.
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Re: Bitstamp удерживает мои деньги уже две недели.
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Slavec89
on 16/05/2016, 09:08:53 UTC
Денег все еще нет, как и писем. А это значит что ни в пятницу, ни на выходных, перевода они не делали.


Я был бы очень признателен каждому, кто отпишется саппорту по моему вопросу. Мой айди был 72018, если комьюнити меня поддержит то это сильно поможет

Комьюнити тебя без пруфов не поддержит.
Бросай сюда всю переписку со штампом, мы посмотрим. Если правда - то нужно будет  что-то делать
http://i.imgur.com/3X7xhrV.png
http://i.imgur.com/b742BZZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/6VaIHji.png
Вот и вся переписка. Веселит в ней что предлагают писать им, если будут еще вопросы.
То что мы общались во встроенном чате самой биржи, по понятным причинам предоставить не могу уже.
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Re: Bitstamp удерживает мои деньги уже две недели.
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Slavec89
on 16/05/2016, 08:37:45 UTC
Денег все еще нет, как и писем. А это значит что ни в пятницу, ни на выходных, перевода они не делали.


Я был бы очень признателен каждому, кто отпишется саппорту по моему вопросу. Мой айди был 72018, если комьюнити меня поддержит то это сильно поможет
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 16/05/2016, 08:24:40 UTC
if your account is verified if it is I think you will not find any problems in withdraw unless you indicated on a problem that made the request pernarikan bitstamp hold your withdraw.
So far nothing is happening.


Who can ask in support about my account? Customer id is 72018. If community will support me, that would help a lot, I think.
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 15/05/2016, 19:12:27 UTC
So, in short, u have not verified your account nor provided proof where did u get money/coins from?
Account was verified, explanetion where from I am getting my bitcoins, they have accepted too. So that was a surprize, that after a month after they have told me that evertyhing is good now, they are closing my account and rejecting to answer my questions.

In any way, its not right to take something that doesn't belongs to you. Its ok to reject making business with someone, just by telling that personally and go with your way next. But its not good to use barbarians methods when you have license and very proud of it.


P.S does not verified, not explained bitcoins, should be a right to take someones money? Really?

Well, if everything is the way u ve stated, then you re correct. However, I ve personally had very good relations with them. No issues so far, this is why I ask.
Same as I was. But as we can see, this is not guarantee of safety.

In the way, if they will just refund me, all complains from my side I will be closed. But so far, for everyone - BE AWARE.

U do understand they have thousands of users and the only one having problems s you. So dont make this Mt.Gox.
I understand that. Also I understand that I had not the most highest balance from all users. So I really don't understand why does they do such moves, and also I don't know what to do next. Hype, or go to lawyer. Or even to wait :/
Anyway, I hope that tomorrow I will receive my money, and will forgot about all this as a nightmare.

It's very easy. They will ask you for questions, if the source is legit and you are legit, you will have no problem answering their questions and showing them the evidence.
These safety measures are exactly what large exchanges should implement. And to be honest it makes me feel they are very trusthworthy now.
As I have already wrote, we already had such coversation month ago, and everything was clear.
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 15/05/2016, 11:03:52 UTC
So, in short, u have not verified your account nor provided proof where did u get money/coins from?
Account was verified, explanetion where from I am getting my bitcoins, they have accepted too. So that was a surprize, that after a month after they have told me that evertyhing is good now, they are closing my account and rejecting to answer my questions.

In any way, its not right to take something that doesn't belongs to you. Its ok to reject making business with someone, just by telling that personally and go with your way next. But its not good to use barbarians methods when you have license and very proud of it.


P.S does not verified, not explained bitcoins, should be a right to take someones money? Really?

Well, if everything is the way u ve stated, then you re correct. However, I ve personally had very good relations with them. No issues so far, this is why I ask.
Same as I was. But as we can see, this is not guarantee of safety.

In the way, if they will just refund me, all complains from my side I will be closed. But so far, for everyone - BE AWARE.

U do understand they have thousands of users and the only one having problems s you. So dont make this Mt.Gox.
I understand that. Also I understand that I had not the most highest balance from all users. So I really don't understand why does they do such moves, and also I don't know what to do next. Hype, or go to lawyer. Or even to wait :/
Anyway, I hope that tomorrow I will receive my money, and will forgot about all this as a nightmare.
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 15/05/2016, 10:03:42 UTC
So, in short, u have not verified your account nor provided proof where did u get money/coins from?
Account was verified, explanetion where from I am getting my bitcoins, they have accepted too. So that was a surprize, that after a month after they have told me that evertyhing is good now, they are closing my account and rejecting to answer my questions.

In any way, its not right to take something that doesn't belongs to you. Its ok to reject making business with someone, just by telling that personally and go with your way next. But its not good to use barbarians methods when you have license and very proud of it.


P.S does not verified, not explained bitcoins, should be a right to take someones money? Really?

Well, if everything is the way u ve stated, then you re correct. However, I ve personally had very good relations with them. No issues so far, this is why I ask.
Same as I was. But as we can see, this is not guarantee of safety.

In the way, if they will just refund me, all complains from my side I will be closed. But so far, for everyone - BE AWARE.
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 15/05/2016, 08:40:23 UTC
So, in short, u have not verified your account nor provided proof where did u get money/coins from?
Account was verified, explanetion where from I am getting my bitcoins, they have accepted too. So that was a surprize, that after a month after they have told me that evertyhing is good now, they are closing my account and rejecting to answer my questions.

In any way, its not right to take something that doesn't belongs to you. Its ok to reject making business with someone, just by telling that personally and go with your way next. But its not good to use barbarians methods when you have license and very proud of it.


P.S does not verified, not explained bitcoins, should be a right to take someones money? Really?
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Re: Bitstamp удерживает мои деньги уже две недели.
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Slavec89
on 15/05/2016, 08:27:29 UTC
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Вопрос ко всем, кто-нибудь за последнюю неделю получал от почты саппорта ответ на свой запрос?
Пахнуло керосином
Да нет, просто чтобы понять это только со мной игнор, или они в принципе никому не отвечают.
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 15/05/2016, 08:13:13 UTC
gentlemand
Mostly. Also I have transfered most part of my money from BTC-E, I think there is some way to check for that BTC address is belongs to Bitstamp.

marlboroza
Not the easiest and fastest solution. Hope that everything will resolve without lowyers and etc. But at the end, will do what I have to do.

crazyivan
Same as their KYC politics, nothing is clear.
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The decision to terminate your Account has been reached following a close examination of your recent account activity and information which you have provided. It is our view that any continuation of our relationship would not be appropriate at this time due to internal policies.

Bitcoins will be transferred only after conversion into a currency. Please prepare an exclusive USD balance on your Account so we can proceed with the payment reversal, costs withheld. Once an exclusive USD balance is prepared, please let us know, so we can proceed accordingly.

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Also guys, from the last week, someone have receive email from their support email? Maybe they don't answer to everyone at all, and I am not special?
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Re: Bitstamp удерживает мои деньги уже две недели.
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Slavec89
on 14/05/2016, 17:27:12 UTC
Пытался на данном форуме найти ветку штампа, ну нету её.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38711.1620
Отписал, может хоть кто то отреагирует.


Вопрос ко всем, кто-нибудь за последнюю неделю получал от почты саппорта ответ на свой запрос?
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Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC
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Slavec89
on 14/05/2016, 17:19:17 UTC
Hi to everyone, I got a situation. Two weeks ago I made a withdraw from bitstamp, but instead of getting my money on the next day(As usual was), my transaction was "in proccess" for a week. After a week, I am receiving a email, telling me that they reject that transaction, and would like to close my account. Also they asked me to sell all bitcoins on my balance, so they will withdraw all money from my account to my bank account that I used last time. I have done everything, and already for a week I am waiting for my money. They stopt to answer on my letters right after I sold last bitcoins and made fiat. Now my account is closed(can't access it, I think its deleted), they don't answer on my letters, and I don't know what to think. Its a pretty huge amount of money for me, and I am starting to worry a bit. At least they could answer on letter, to avoid misunderstanding from my side.

Who had the same problem? How, and how fast it was solved? Was it solved at all? Can they keep my money? Or I will get them eventually?
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Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
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Slavec89
on 14/05/2016, 17:11:26 UTC
They may ask where you got your money from but that's usually it and a vague answer is enough like "it was used for payment of services in 2012" or "I've been day-trading for the past two years on so-and-so exchange". As long as there's nothing fishy about your answer, they'll do business with you. If/when law enforcement comes asking, they'll provide your answer about source of funds. If you lied to them, THEN you get in trouble with law enforcement.
I already had a such talk with them before. And after that I got such situation. This is most strange stuff, we got the deal, and now they are closing my account.

In any way, they don't have right to take out my own money. Its not in their rules. If so, then this bitstamp is not trust worthly at all. And I will not leave it like it is, will make hype as only I can.
Making a business? Do it fair.
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Re: Bitstamp удерживает мои деньги уже две недели.
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Slavec89
on 13/05/2016, 18:27:19 UTC
Да не факт, почитал забугор, многие пишут что до одной недели может занимать вывод(хотя у меня больше суток не было). У меня получается около 4 дней пока что, ну в выходные они само собой выводить не будут. Есть надежда на ближайшие 3-4 дня, если за них ничего не произойдет, то да, про штамп все становится ясно.

Оф. топик по штампу не обнаружил, сделал тему в разделе Service Discussion.

Буду держать в курсе дел и в данном топике. Если кидают, то лучше про это шуму побольше навести, чтобы никто больше не попадался. Но, надеюсь обойдется.

Будем благодарны. Биржа крупная, и такие штуки не нужно держать в секрете. Не забудь только отписывать сюда.
В случае чего - поднимай хайп. Если твои обвинения обоснованны, тебя поддержат.
И как в данном случае поднять хайпа? На новостные ленты писать со скринами?

Что то англоязычная ветка никак не отреагировала. Плохая примета.

Для начала, неплохо бы все таки найти офф ветку битштампа. и отписать там.
Потом в случае чего, для начала устроить хайп здесь на форуме. Создать английскую и росийскую темы, мол там и так, меня обокрали. Пруфы предоставить и все в этом роде.  Какая то реакция должна быть.
В случае если не поможет, придется дальше уже думать что делать.

Правда ты ньюби, и соотвественно даже с пруфами доверия к тебе поменьше будет, чем даже к мемберу.
Этому аккаунту года два, если я правильно помню. Ньюби я только постами.

Пытался на данном форуме найти ветку штампа, ну нету её. Здесь и на английской стороне буду шуметь со скринами со вторника. Я все не теряю надежду, что это не задержка, а норма вывода 1 неделя, просто раньше проскакивало быстрее, а сейчас типа сумма больше. Успокаиваю себя в общем, как могу :-)


На данный момент отписал на почту информации, наверняка они там все в одном офисе сидят, но вдруг хоть они ответят хоть что-то.


razdva
Надо уметь разговаривать с клиентом. Даже бывшим. Даже если у вас к нему какие то претензии. Грубо говоря взять денег и уйти в подполье это плохое решение.
В любом случае ситуация другая, было все хорошо, стало вдруг все плохо.
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Re: Bitstamp удерживает мои деньги уже две недели.
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Slavec89
on 13/05/2016, 17:37:55 UTC
Да не факт, почитал забугор, многие пишут что до одной недели может занимать вывод(хотя у меня больше суток не было). У меня получается около 4 дней пока что, ну в выходные они само собой выводить не будут. Есть надежда на ближайшие 3-4 дня, если за них ничего не произойдет, то да, про штамп все становится ясно.

Оф. топик по штампу не обнаружил, сделал тему в разделе Service Discussion.

Буду держать в курсе дел и в данном топике. Если кидают, то лучше про это шуму побольше навести, чтобы никто больше не попадался. Но, надеюсь обойдется.

Будем благодарны. Биржа крупная, и такие штуки не нужно держать в секрете. Не забудь только отписывать сюда.
В случае чего - поднимай хайп. Если твои обвинения обоснованны, тебя поддержат.
И как в данном случае поднять хайпа? На новостные ленты писать со скринами?

Что то англоязычная ветка никак не отреагировала. Плохая примета.
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Board Exchanges
Re: Bitstamp is holding my money for a two weeks already.
by
Slavec89
on 13/05/2016, 10:00:57 UTC
Account is verified and have 2factor access activate. Also it was always active, and I didn't try to change anything on it.

If they would ask to proof my identity, I would not open such topics.