Exactly the reason why I stopped frequenting the forum.  There is just WAY too much chattering and nonsense going on.

Also, someone needs to write some posting guidelines, so people will have a clear understanding of what constitutes trolling.  For example, I would automatically remove any posts that include image macros of any sort. 

I would advise posting links to the official Active Mining Announcements thread.  Also, any resources that shareholders, or potential shareholders might find handy should also be included (timelines, mining addresses, dividend information, etc).  Someone also needs to notify Ken that there is an effort being made to transition to a new thread, and ask if he would be willing to post updates into this thread as well as the official one.

LOL!  Trying to compare LC to ActM.  How FUDy of you.  Let's look at a few things that we have that LC did not.  We have a face, and an identity of the person running the operation.  We have a physical location where this operation is being conducted.  We have people who have spoken to Ken over the phone and in-person. We have an established company, with a genuine reputation (eASIC) publicly stating their working relationship with us.

Basically, if this were a scam, Ken would literally be the stupidest scam artist of all time.  Sure, he may be a little incompetent when it comes to running this business, but that does not equate to scam.  Trust me, I am by no means an ActM cheerleader, and I certainly do not have the highest opinion of Ken at the moment, as my post history will show, but I would need a little more evidence than an anecdotal opinion that this is in fact a scam.

LOL!  To be fair, it is early in the morning, and I have not had my coffee yet, so the grammar chi is a bit off.

Nonetheless, there is NOOOO FUCKING way I would even attempt to do PR for ActM.  I had attempted to do some design and marketing for them (pro bono) last year, and I could not even get Ken to sign a freaking license agreement for user nickwen's logo, which I was using as my base for the various designs I was planning.  After that, I pretty much decided to end any and all involvement with Ken, other than being a meager shareholder.

This exactly!  He said he was going to be hiring a PR firm last year, and as you can see, that obviously did not happen.  One of the many things Ken said that he would do, that he did not.  Communication is one of the biggest problems that ActM has.  Yes, he is becoming a little more transparent by attempting to answer direct questions from shareholders, but Ken is notorious for putting his foot in his mouth.  A clear example of this is his off the cuff statement about possibly moving directly into 20nm.  With a PR firm, Ken would basically email his statements to them, and then they would present it in the most attractive way.  Granted, you can only dress up so much bad news, but some of the statements Ken has made in the past have not necessarily been bad news, but rather not well thought out.

For example:


would have translated into something like

No... Just no. Do you honestly hear yourself, Ken?  One, has eASIC even publicly announced that they are capable of making a 20nm chip in the near future?  Stick with 28, let's mine the shit out of them, and THEN we can look into expanding into 20nm. 

I'm merely checking in to see if we have started trading yet.  I see that Ken has apparently valued the listed shares at .0005 per unit, which is the original AMC IPO.  Not quite sure how I feel about that, but I guess we'll know soon how this will play out.  If it wasn't for the fact that I have committed to not investing another satoshi into this company until we at least get our dividends that we are owed, I would consider tossing another Bitcoin or two in at these prices.  I may indeed regret not doing that in a few months, but Ken has a ways to go before I entrust anymore of my money to him.

I sort of took it as that as well. 

I'm sorry, but at this point I have to assume that my investment is gone.  This update was riddled with so many contradictions, that I cannot help but think that Ken is just treading water at this point.

On the matter of when and where we can trade shares:

Interesting.  I remember being told weeks ago that this process would be done within a week.  Sounds to me like Ken is quickly becoming aware of the bloodbath it will be the moment trading goes live, and he is holding our shares hostage to delay the inevitable.

On where we are currently at from a development standpoint:

So basically, we are at square one, yes?  If a new engineering firm was brought in because the original firm was a collosal fuck up, why are we just now hearing about it?  Secondly, as of 1/1/2014, you guys were "[assembling] our miners for quick delivery."  Err... How have you been assembling miners if there is litterally nothing readily avaiable to go into them.  Oh!  You managed to put a power supply in a case.  Wonderful!  I guess we are well on our way then.

On what he anticipates the hash rate to be by the end of Q1:

Uhh... The question was not how awesome the RTL design team was, it was "What do you estimate the ActM hashrate be at the end of January, February and March?" So basically, no hashing can be expected until after March, yes?  

Oh, so you are willing to go on record and pull an arbitrary Bitcoin valuation out of your ass, but you cannot give us a goddamn estimate of when we will be in full production, or when we can begin trading OUR shares.

I'm really starting to question the general age demographic of this thread.  After skimming through the last ten pages, I am picturing most of you as a bunch of 14 year old boys who are multitasking between BTCTalk, Reddit, Pornhub and of course fapping.  I guess I'll be back on Wednesday to see if anything interesting has happened. :/

Sooo... What is this damning evidence again???

We have learned that Micah Slaughter (Ken's Nephew I guess) may have purchased a car around November 5th.  Is there any proof that he actually purchased this car around that time? No.  Is there any evidence that suggest that he used shareholder money to purchase said car?  No.  So I ask again, what are we supposed to take away from this?

Update from Bitfunder:
Maintenance in progress. Funds from BitFunder accounts have been withdrawn to linked WeExchange accounts.
Website to be available for viewing by end of 12/6/2013
If your BitFunder account has problems linking with WeExchange this can be corrected by a BitFunder support ticket once the site is back online.

Woah woah woah! Even you have to admit that her macaroni collage was amazing.

As someone who just had to put down both their pet horse and pet duck on account of them being stricken with lameness, I am under the impression that you may have had something to do with that you son of a bitch. There's a dark place in hell for monsters like you. 

You've not upset me at all. I just find all of your post incredibly lame. I'm talking "Share this post to help fund the cure for Aids" on Facebook lame. I mean... Can you just try to stop being lame? Do it for the children!

How long have you actually been on the internet? You are not going to stand by and listen to LorenzoMoney? Yes... That is exactly what you will do. That is how a forum works. This is not a board filled with rainbows, kittens and lollipops. We're all people, living in the real world, with real money at risk. Some people are going to ask questions. Some are going to be dicks, and others will be full on trolls. That is how the internet works. I am going to write you a prescription to 4chan.org so you can experience what assholes people really are. Point is, chill out with the pompous theatrics.

Has anyone spoken to Ukyo? If so, is he still anticipating having the site back up today?

It received a boost when there was actual trading going on. Now it's anyone's guess what happens. Either people are going to sit back and hold, or they are going to run towards the exit.

Unlike Stuartuk, I actually have a life that does not revolve around waiting around my keyboard, hoping to catch the slightest wiff of a fart from Ken.