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Stellar Development Foundation
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Surmount
on 17/08/2021, 15:58:08 UTC
Hello,

I didn't see any discussion about this. The SDF, the foundation that runs Stellar XLM, is currently accepting project applications for funding.

If you have a crypto project built on XLM that needs funding then you should apply. The deadline is August 22. The foundation has about 4 million XLM reserved for funding new projects.

I'm not going to share any links but you can easily find them through a quick web search.

If your project isn't ready yet then you can wait until October when the 4th, and final, funding round begins.
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Re: Exchange BTC addresses
by
Surmount
on 02/08/2021, 20:51:35 UTC
That's a HUGE problem.  If this is true, I'd avoid using Shakepay until they can demonstrate that they've improved their security practices.

Coinbase does the same thing. Havn't checked if Binance does but wouldn't be surprised if they did.

There's no such thing as depositing "from a bitcoin address".  That sentence doesn't make sense.  You deposit TO an address (specifically, the address that the ForEx provider tells you to deposit TO). It's entirely possible AND VERY COMMON for a single transaction to contain bitcoins that were received at multiple different addresses.  Which address would the ForEx broker require you to use in that case?

The forex broker has a separate BTC address for all users accounts. The transaction history of this address has only transactions that match my deposits. Of course the forex broker has custodial control over this address.

I think that the first time I made a withdrawal the broker saved that withdrawal address as the only one that can accept withdrawals in the future.

The timeline must have been like this:

I deposited to the forex brokers BTC address that they created for my account.

On June 25 I withdrew some funds using my Shakepay address. The broker saved that address however Shakepay changed it once the transaction was complete.

July 29th I attempted to withdraw again using the new address that Shakepay listed on my account but it failed because it did not match the address I had used to make the first withdrawal. I expect that, had it been my first withdrawal, the transaction would have been successful.

The address that Shakepay created for me has only one incoming and outgoing transaction that matches the transaction I made.
That's a HUGE problem.  If this is true, I'd avoid using Shakepay until they can demonstrate that they've improved their security practices.
What's the problem? That's how it should be.
The incoming transaction should be OP's deposit to Shakepay (which is probably the withdrawal made on June 25 from the forex broker) and the outgoing transaction should be the transaction made to Shakpay's wallet address from OP's deposit address. 

Am I missing something here?

Yes the address has an incoming transaction from the FX broker and an outgoing transaction when I sold the BTC for fiat. Now, after my last withdrawal it has more transactions but Shakepay and other exchanges recommend against using the same address.
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Re: Exchange BTC addresses
by
Surmount
on 02/08/2021, 17:51:47 UTC
When I talked to the forex broker about this they insisted money be withdrawn to the wallet used to make the initial deposit. I can't have been the only one who experienced this so they must have some sort of policy in place for extreme cases.
I'm not used to forex brokers or know how they operate but if you read their faq or terms and conditions they would have stated that they can only withdrawaw crypto-related transactions to the deposited address and it is their only way of preventing their customer funds from online theft.
I will advise you always read about every platform's rules and conditions before using it to avoid this kind of issue in the future.

I was aware of their AML policies before I opened an account. What I didn't know is that exchanges will assign new addresses after every transaction.

That would be HORRIBLE news.  If that's true, I'd IMMEDIATELY stop using Shakepay, and would withdraw ALL my funds of all types (crypto and Fiat).

I only use them as an on/off-ramp, I wouldn't recommend anyone hold assets in any exchange.

Assigning new addresses to users after every transaction seems to be standard practice with exchanges now. I've confirmed that Shakepay and Coinbase both do this. I can also confirm that these new accounts are not pooled with anyone else. The address that Shakepay created for me has only one incoming and outgoing transaction that matches the transaction I made.

The exchanges probably hold the keys and monitor all these addresses.

e, the ForEx broker needs some serious education about Bitcoin.  Addresses are NOT "accounts", and in bitcoin there is no such thing as a "sending address" or an address that the bitcoins in a transaction "came from".  A single "account" at custodial service can have an uncountable number of addresses. I would not trust this ForEx broker with Bitcoins until they can demonstrate that they understand some basic facts about how Bitcoin transactions work.

I think I'll side with the FX broker on this one since it would be heaven for money launderers if they could deposit BTC from one address and then withdraw to a completely different one. 
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Re: Exchange BTC addresses
by
Surmount
on 02/08/2021, 07:25:34 UTC
Thanks. That is solid advice.

Though having to pay double the transaction fees will be slightly annoying at least until they add functionality for other types of crypto.
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Re: Exchange BTC addresses
by
Surmount
on 01/08/2021, 18:20:05 UTC
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You were lucky that your old address was still active and tied to your account. Some other exchanges/services work differently, if you make a deposit to an old wallet, the sent money will be lost.

When I talked to the forex broker about this they insisted money be withdrawn to the wallet used to make the initial deposit. I can't have been the only one who experienced this so they must have some sort of policy in place for extreme cases. Either that or they continue to refuse to make the withdrawal forever which benefits them since the money in the broker is effectively theirs.

Coinbase support says that all previously used wallets remain tied to the account and are never removed. I wouldn't be surprised if Shakepay works the same way however their support is pretty bad and I've still yet to receive a reply from them.

In any case, I feel lucky that I got my money out and will stick to wire transfers for now while I wait for banking institutions to adapt to new tech.
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Re: Exchange BTC addresses
by
Surmount
on 01/08/2021, 03:43:36 UTC
EDIT. Found the address. Apparently Shakepay sometimes changes the address, maybe after every transaction.
You must be talking about your Shakepay deposit bitcoin address.
They do change deposit address but if it work just like any exchange, the address used for withdrawal isn't tied with your account.
It could be one of their "hot wallet" address that's specifically used for users' withdrawals (can't be 100% sure without the address).

Forex has very strict AML policies. Cash can only be withdrawn to the same source that made the deposit. They've specifically told me that they can only withdraw to the same BTC address that made the deposit.
If it's AML policy, try to explain to them that you've bought bitcoins through Shakepay (a custodial service) and sent the bitcoins to them.
Sending them your transaction history might help. (Link: help.shakepay.com - Where can I see my full transaction history on Shakepay?)
You can also send this thread's link as a reference.

There should be a qualified technical support that can understand that Exchange withdrawals doesn't work like a non-custodial bitcoin wallet.

You mean an address previously used for my account may eventually be used for someone else?

After digging I found that on June 25 I had made a successful withdrawal from the forex broker to a BTC address. On Shakepay I see I received BTC on June 25th and cashed it out. The amount I withdrew and cashed out is nearly identical. Blockstream also shows that it was sent to the address that the forex broker wants me to use.

Coinbase say they change the address but the old ones remain tied to the account.  Must be the same for Shakepay.

For now I've withdrawn a small amount from the forex broker to the specified address. Will wait and see if it ends up in my Shakepay account.
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Re: Exchange BTC addresses
by
Surmount
on 01/08/2021, 03:26:34 UTC
I found I had made a successful withdrawal in mid June to the address that the forex broker wants me to use.

My guess is that Shakepay changes the address after every transaction.

Still something that I wasn't aware could happen. Waiting for Shakepay to respond and hopefully give me a list of all addresses tied to my account.
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Re: Exchange BTC addresses
by
Surmount
on 01/08/2021, 00:31:59 UTC
Why does the ForEx broker care if the address is the same?  He should just send the funds wherever you ask him to.

DannyHamilton is right. You can withdrawal  to any address you want. Is it just a warning waiting for your confirmation  or  are they refusing to withdrawal?


Forex has very strict AML policies. Cash can only be withdrawn to the same source that made the deposit. They've specifically told me that they can only withdraw to the same BTC address that made the deposit.

Looking at the transaction history of my broker BTC address I can see my deposits being made. Searching for the address I have with the exchange shows that no transactions have been made on that address.

What is strange is that the address the forex broker tells me is the one that made the deposit has only made 2 transactions while I've personally made several.

At first I'd assume that it is because the exchange uses a pool as Danny has said but if it was a pool wouldn't there be more than 2 transactions on that account?
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Exchange BTC addresses
by
Surmount
on 31/07/2021, 23:44:25 UTC
Hi,

I'm having a tough time understanding this problem.

Awhile ago I deposited some money into an exchange, bought some BTC and immediately deposited it into a forex account.

Now when I try to withdraw the forex broker tells me that my wallet address I have with the exchange is not the same one that originally sent the BTC. This can't be true since I have the transaction history on the exchange and know that I sent it from there right after buying.

What is going on?

The BTC exchange I am using is Shakepay.
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Re: Why complain about the dump when the market warned you????
by
Surmount
on 27/07/2021, 06:32:30 UTC
Happens in forex too. A lot of traders blame this on "manipulation" instead of trying to understand their own emotions that led to them buying high and selling low.
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Re: Are meme tokens dangerous or moon
by
Surmount
on 23/07/2021, 04:28:28 UTC
Many people actually interested in meme coins because as you know it resembles gambling so much and people interested because they think they could make money from it while in reality meme coin is like the place for people who are greedy to lose money, many people think they gonna repeat the same history like what happened to doge but new meme coins have really little chance of making that pump happen to their coin that's why the volume is high with these meme coins.

Gotta agree. Meme tokens are a get-rich-quick scheme and it'll be a great day when people stop pumping memes trying to get rich off of them.
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Re: Việt (Vietnamese)
by
Surmount
on 21/07/2021, 21:17:23 UTC
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Re: How do you make sure a projects funds are safe?
by
Surmount
on 15/07/2021, 22:40:40 UTC
Interesting.

So to summarize the major points, what investors like to see are:

*Roadmap and roadmap completion
*Wallet addresses
*Information on team members and activity on social media

Minor points are:

*Team competency
*Verification by bounty managers or certification services

What I find interesting is that almost no one mentions any sort of governmental or institutional regulation.
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Re: How do you make sure a projects funds are safe?
by
Surmount
on 12/07/2021, 00:13:48 UTC
You can check their contract address, most of the projects got their contract address so that's part of checking if the funds were there and secured by the development team. But why are you making that sure that it's safe? you should always be active on their telegram or any means of communication with their community because they're the ones that will answer on how you'll check if the funds of the project are there. There would always be a way to contact them and ask your question directly. For example, what's the current project that made you ask this question? you contact them and this question directly to them.

I am asking about projects in general.

Many projects will raise money for development by selling tokens. There have been many projects that will sell tokens and run away with the money.

I want to know what the community would like to see changed in this topic to prevent this from happening in the future.

More public development teams for sure but is there anything else a project can do to build trust?
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Re: Any good coin to invest in?
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Surmount
on 11/07/2021, 20:28:22 UTC
I want to invest in Bitcoin but I am thinking it might have too rmuch rsks. Is there any good coin I can invest my money cause I am planning of using next year. Please does anyone know of good coin I can invest in that can give me good profit by next year?

Pretty sure altcoins have even more risk than BTC.
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How do you make sure a projects funds are safe?
by
Surmount
on 11/07/2021, 19:40:55 UTC
⭐ Merited by Ratimov (1)
Hey everyone,

How do you verify that a projects funds will not be stolen by the devs? Many projects hold ICO's or some other sort of sale to raise money for development and many have turned out to be scams where the dev steals the money.

What are you looking for to verify that they won't run away with the cash?

Any ideas on how a project can build trust with the community on this topic?

What would you like to see DAO projects do in the future that would help build trust and make sure funds are secure from theft?
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Re: Why women are the minority in crypto land?
by
Surmount
on 11/07/2021, 18:42:40 UTC
I don't think so, there are also many women who understand crypto, but most of them are men because the majority of workers are men, and women are mostly housewives.

That was true.....50 years ago. Today it is very different since most university students and graduates are women and childcare services are more accessible in western countries. It is rare for a woman today to be a housewife unless you go to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia.
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Re: Vietnam Becomes Latest Country to Turn to Crypto
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Surmount
on 10/07/2021, 17:59:01 UTC
Interesting thing about Vietnam is that they often try to ban things but are never able to enforce it. Maybe someday the government will have enough money to start enforcing like China.
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Re: Why women are the minority in crypto land?
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Surmount
on 10/07/2021, 06:57:42 UTC
I think it has a lot to do with risk aversion and seeking security.

Men are much more likely to risk everything on a start-up that can go bust while women seem to enter only when the conditions are all in favour.

I find that women make better investment managers in this way.
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Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated.
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Surmount
on 09/07/2021, 22:15:04 UTC
I am a little surprised there are not more Vietnamese here. Is it difficult for Vietnamese to access crypto?