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Is that it?! 
In a week, only one trader in India has figured out how to use the most decentralized and censorship-resistant crypto exchange in the world today?!
Sad. RBI will be able to keep its giant herd of sheep under its control for sure.
In a week, only one trader in India has figured out how to use the most decentralized and censorship-resistant crypto exchange in the world today?!
Sad. RBI will be able to keep its giant herd of sheep under its control for sure.
What's keeping Indian traders from using Bisq?
https://bisq.network/
It's the only crypto exchange even close to decentralized so far.
Does it not have payment methods used in India?
https://bisq.network/
It's the only crypto exchange even close to decentralized so far.
Does it not have payment methods used in India?
Hi,
Can anyone recommend me best bitcoin wallet in India. I am starting BTC mining with cloudminr.io what you guys say about that too.
I am fairly new to BTC. I would really appreciate anyone helping me.
Can anyone recommend me best bitcoin wallet in India. I am starting BTC mining with cloudminr.io what you guys say about that too.
I am fairly new to BTC. I would really appreciate anyone helping me.
Don't use wallets run by companies that hold your private keys!
For large amounts, use hardware wallets:
https://trezor.io/
or
https://www.ledgerwallet.com/
For small amounts on mobile phone:
https://samouraiwallet.com/
For larger amounts on PC:
https://electrum.org/#home
or
https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/
For trading wallets:
https://bisq.network/
In all of these, you control your own private keys. Learn to back them up, and hide them safely.
This is not the death. You can still trade cryptocurrencies in person to person exchange like localbitcoins, remitano etc. Ofcourse we will see a major price drop in Indian exchanges but this is definately not the end of cryptos. Looks like RBI is planning on some kind of their own digital SHIT coin so they don't like crypto.
That's right in general. They can force centralized exchange sites like Localbitcoins and Remitano to stop offers in India, but they can't stop Bisq and other more decentralized exchanges the same way.
Take action!
https://bisq.network/
Liquidity won't come to decentralized exchanges until you bring it!
Still don't see any INR offers on Bisq order book.
They need contributors too, such as Java devs:
https://bisq.network/contribute/
At least, spread the word on social media!
What's keeping SG traders from using Bisq?
https://bisq.network/
It's the only crypto exchange even close to decentralized so far.
Does it not have payment methods used in Singapore?
Liquidity won't be there until you bring it.
Now we're talking!
Thanks for putting your bid on the book, whoever you are!
Wish I had a Singapore account to take it!
Come on Singapore traders!
They have given 3 months of time for the banks to close all the bank accounts related to crypto and this also means that all the exchanges in India would be shut down. Now what will be the next step from them is the question needs to be asked?
Seems that "the question needs to be asked" is what will be the next step from the Indian traders.What prevents traders from using Bisq decentralized exchange to trade via bank cash deposits to normal bank accounts?
What's keeping Korean traders from using Bisq?
https://bisq.network/
It's the only crypto exchange even close to decentralized so far.
Does it not have payment methods used in Korea?
Liquidity won't be there until you bring it.
https://bisq.network/
It's the only crypto exchange even close to decentralized so far.
Does it not have payment methods used in Korea?
Liquidity won't be there until you bring it.
What's keeping Indian traders from using Bisq?
https://bisq.network/
It's the only crypto exchange even close to decentralized so far.
Does it not have payment methods used in India?
Liquidity won't be there until you bring it.
https://bisq.network/
It's the only crypto exchange even close to decentralized so far.
Does it not have payment methods used in India?
Liquidity won't be there until you bring it.
Seems like Yen volume in BTC was very low. Now all of a sudden it's more than 7% of global volume?! 
Why is Quinone exchange not being ignored for it's zero-fee model, the way the bogus CNY exchanges are?
Why is Quinone exchange not being ignored for it's zero-fee model, the way the bogus CNY exchanges are?
Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★
I think you definitely supported Truthful's high school metaphor (which was actually a simile), 
with the ending of your post. And you are not so respectful either.
In general, though, I agree with Truthful's sentiment; speaking for myself, I supported VIA as a bet on btcdrak and Peter doing things on VIA that Bitcoin would never do, in particular TreeChains.
Helped me either way, because I had way more value in BTC than VIA, but if I knew that VIA would not even be much of a test chain for BTC innovation, I would not have put any BTC in it.
And doing what Bitcoin wouldn't, was certainly how btcdrak presented VIA back then, especially regarding Peter's involvement. Maybe I just misunderstood his intentions, or something happened, but I doubt it. I think it's just that most people don't present their true intentions, especially where money is involved...
So, for what it's worth, I don't think as highly of VIA and btcdrak at this point, but I did bet on them freely, and lost the investment so far.
Lesson learned: don't bet on personalities and most of what they say they plan to do. Ultimately though, every investment requires some trust in its salespeople.
If none of us trusted Satoshi's vision and intent, (not to imply that anyone involved with VIA is Satoshi-grade) none of us would be here, or made the money we made in crypto.
So, as someone else said here, I just hope that what goes around always comes around to all of us - good and otherwise.
Happy holidays!
CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY
REPLACEBYFEE
Here, I'll quote for you, because we all know clicking is hard for millennials.
I'm sure if early investors knew that VIA was becoming a glorified token to further development work on Bitcoin and Drak's OKCoin account they would have though twice about investing. Saying "well the code will be featured in Viacoin too!" is such a copout. If they wanted to beg for BTC to further develop Bitcoin then be upfront about it, but pitching us a new alt coin that claims to fix the problems of Bitcoin while taking these solutions to Bitcoin is deceptive.
The whole selling point of Viacoin was to do things on its chain that Bitcoin core devs supposedly refuse to implement. Yet suddenly every innovation produced for VIA is actually getting in the Bitcoin code, which makes the original argument for VIA's existence null and void.
Look I know Drak, Todd and you Icebreaker are a bunch of autists who don't think like normal human beings and you think it is perfectly acceptable to ask for almost half a million dollars for a few hundred lines of code but some of us live in the real world where such obscene salaries would normally command in the business world at the minimum a 50-60 hour work week for a whole year and personal cell phone access on the weekends.
This business of Drak getting on twitter everyday, yacking about what is going on in whaleclub, and accusing Gavin of driving people to suicide and then occasionally popping in once a month to write a line or two here and contributing little to the Viacoin github is unacceptable. I'd fired his ass a long time ago if he was on my staff.
The question is has he delivered 600 BTC worth of work and effort into Via? the answer is a solid NO.
What's funny is you got guys like Dave Zimbeck who himself alone built Bithalo, Nighttrader, a working decentralized marketplace with Bitbay, 2-party smart contracts and is in the process of finalizing pegging and all while managing to stay active with his community on an at-least weekly basis and yet he gets called the scammer!
This whole place really is like high school made up of cliques.
Perhaps if you were more of an "autist" you would understand why some lines of code are vastly more valuable and difficult to produce than others.
We all knew PT's dev work would explicitly benefit both BTC and VIA; that was the deal all along. It's only 'shocking' 'scandalous' news to you.
VIA got CLTV months before Bitcoin. The market didn't care, but that's no excuse for you to whine about it. The point is Via had (and still has) its chance to shine.
Your 20/20 hindsight is asinine and immature. If VIA/XCH had gone to the moon thanks to their advanced features, 600 BTC would have been a small price to pay.
But unfortunately that hasn't happened yet, so now you feel entitled to retroactively pooh-pooh what has been accomplished, as if shepherding CLTV from concept to battle-tested code is some small thing?
IDC about your lame high school:cliques metaphor. It has no value beyond providing a vent for your pouting.
You should please go sodomize yourself with retractable batons.
with the ending of your post. And you are not so respectful either.In general, though, I agree with Truthful's sentiment; speaking for myself, I supported VIA as a bet on btcdrak and Peter doing things on VIA that Bitcoin would never do, in particular TreeChains.
Helped me either way, because I had way more value in BTC than VIA, but if I knew that VIA would not even be much of a test chain for BTC innovation, I would not have put any BTC in it.
And doing what Bitcoin wouldn't, was certainly how btcdrak presented VIA back then, especially regarding Peter's involvement. Maybe I just misunderstood his intentions, or something happened, but I doubt it. I think it's just that most people don't present their true intentions, especially where money is involved...
So, for what it's worth, I don't think as highly of VIA and btcdrak at this point, but I did bet on them freely, and lost the investment so far.
Lesson learned: don't bet on personalities and most of what they say they plan to do. Ultimately though, every investment requires some trust in its salespeople.
If none of us trusted Satoshi's vision and intent, (not to imply that anyone involved with VIA is Satoshi-grade) none of us would be here, or made the money we made in crypto.
So, as someone else said here, I just hope that what goes around always comes around to all of us - good and otherwise.
Happy holidays!
CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY
REPLACEBYFEE
Here, I'll quote for you, because we all know clicking is hard for millennials.
I'm sure if early investors knew that VIA was becoming a glorified token to further development work on Bitcoin and Drak's OKCoin account they would have though twice about investing. Saying "well the code will be featured in Viacoin too!" is such a copout. If they wanted to beg for BTC to further develop Bitcoin then be upfront about it, but pitching us a new alt coin that claims to fix the problems of Bitcoin while taking these solutions to Bitcoin is deceptive.
The whole selling point of Viacoin was to do things on its chain that Bitcoin core devs supposedly refuse to implement. Yet suddenly every innovation produced for VIA is actually getting in the Bitcoin code, which makes the original argument for VIA's existence null and void.
Look I know Drak, Todd and you Icebreaker are a bunch of autists who don't think like normal human beings and you think it is perfectly acceptable to ask for almost half a million dollars for a few hundred lines of code but some of us live in the real world where such obscene salaries would normally command in the business world at the minimum a 50-60 hour work week for a whole year and personal cell phone access on the weekends.
This business of Drak getting on twitter everyday, yacking about what is going on in whaleclub, and accusing Gavin of driving people to suicide and then occasionally popping in once a month to write a line or two here and contributing little to the Viacoin github is unacceptable. I'd fired his ass a long time ago if he was on my staff.
The question is has he delivered 600 BTC worth of work and effort into Via? the answer is a solid NO.
What's funny is you got guys like Dave Zimbeck who himself alone built Bithalo, Nighttrader, a working decentralized marketplace with Bitbay, 2-party smart contracts and is in the process of finalizing pegging and all while managing to stay active with his community on an at-least weekly basis and yet he gets called the scammer!
This whole place really is like high school made up of cliques.
Perhaps if you were more of an "autist" you would understand why some lines of code are vastly more valuable and difficult to produce than others.
We all knew PT's dev work would explicitly benefit both BTC and VIA; that was the deal all along. It's only 'shocking' 'scandalous' news to you.
VIA got CLTV months before Bitcoin. The market didn't care, but that's no excuse for you to whine about it. The point is Via had (and still has) its chance to shine.
Your 20/20 hindsight is asinine and immature. If VIA/XCH had gone to the moon thanks to their advanced features, 600 BTC would have been a small price to pay.
But unfortunately that hasn't happened yet, so now you feel entitled to retroactively pooh-pooh what has been accomplished, as if shepherding CLTV from concept to battle-tested code is some small thing?
IDC about your lame high school:cliques metaphor. It has no value beyond providing a vent for your pouting.
You should please go sodomize yourself with retractable batons.
Why are some 0% trading fee sites in China ignored, but BTCChina isn't?
Doesn't it also have 0% trading fee?
https://vip.btcchina.com/page/fee
Thank you for that comprehensive answer, BitcoinAverage!Doesn't it also have 0% trading fee?
https://vip.btcchina.com/page/fee
I figured as much, because if BTCChina were ignored, the Chinese volume would be shown to be the complete, fake, bogus-bot show that it is.
I like and appreciate your site, but you are participating in fraudulent data relay, which is costing people money somewhere...
Why are some 0% trading fee sites in China ignored, but BTCChina isn't?
Doesn't it also have 0% trading fee?
https://vip.btcchina.com/page/fee
Doesn't it also have 0% trading fee?
https://vip.btcchina.com/page/fee
Is OkCoin funding this site, or have some other influence over it?
Why is a shady, unaudited site, with unrealistic volume data presented as the biggest exchange in the world?
This is another MtGox disaster in the making. With me or anyone who asks me about it, BitcoinCharts has lost all credibility by adding OKCoin data.
Why is a shady, unaudited site, with unrealistic volume data presented as the biggest exchange in the world?
This is another MtGox disaster in the making. With me or anyone who asks me about it, BitcoinCharts has lost all credibility by adding OKCoin data.
Do you still own this site?
If so, how do you know that the data from OKCoin is real and true?
It seems that it's probably more fake than MtGox data ever was!
If so, how do you know that the data from OKCoin is real and true?
It seems that it's probably more fake than MtGox data ever was!
Bitcoincharts now show okcoin to have the highest trade volume: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/
I guess, it's possible if they have 0% fees, but is there a way to tell if it's another Willie doing that?
I guess, it's possible if they have 0% fees, but is there a way to tell if it's another Willie doing that?
Can you add bitcoin average https://bitcoinaverage.com as this is probably the best view of current data?
+1 A weighted USD average of all USD exchanges should be the leading chart, instead of Bitstamp.Is this project still live? Discussion seems to have ended abruptly both here and at reddit, and I can't get any of the links to load.
+1 Has anyone ever heard anything abot Bitcoin and such from CAGW? Seems like Bitcoin would accomplish what they have unsuccessfully been trying to do for 30 years now, IF it ever became as popular as usd.
The least they could do is set up donations through BitPay or something.
http://cagw.org/
The least they could do is set up donations through BitPay or something.
http://cagw.org/
One Q&A in this discussion removed any doubt I had regarding whether or not Bitcoin should be anonymous:
http://boingboing.net/2013/12/15/bruce-schneier-and-eben-moglen-2.html
http://boingboing.net/2013/12/15/bruce-schneier-and-eben-moglen-2.html
Quote
Moglen Q: Does actual security imply anonymity?
Schneier A: Yes.
Schneier A: Yes.
Re: New Service "snapCard" - purchase anything online with BTC?
Well, I don't know what that person used, but I used BitPay. They just send you an address to send to BitPay from your own personal wallet.
Thanks! It was probably BitPay then. The btc recipient sets the processor. Last I heard, about 48-hours later, still no refund and no news from "the cofounder".
I thought I read somewhere this morning though that they are looking for a paid intern. (Can't find where I saw the article right now.) Perhaps, they need some free money for that.