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Re: Is there anyway to buy alcohol online with bitcoin?
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Waremis
on 02/12/2019, 09:41:17 UTC
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The fine wine Market is difficult to compare to the crypto one.
Crypto market is made of hundreds of dawning tokens while the fine wine market is comprised of ancient Estates.

Nevertheless I can give you some recent examples (B2B price EXW in €/bottle of 75cl):

Château Beychevelle 2018 (not yet in bottle):
-En primeur price release 06/05/2019: 60€ (BTC: 5200€)
-Current price 02/12/2019: 70€ (BTC: 6500€)
-ROI on the period: 14% (BTC:20%)

Château Pape Clément 2017 (in bottle now)
-En primeur price release 03/05/2018: 61.20€ (BTC 8400€)
-Current price 02/12/2019: 72€ (BTC 6500€)
-ROI on the period: 15% (BTC-30%)

On the whole, fine wine Market is more regular and less fickle.
This message is for informational purposes only, this is not investment advice.
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Re: Is there anyway to buy alcohol online with bitcoin?
by
Waremis
on 29/11/2019, 15:50:49 UTC
What do you mean exactly?
I am not sure to understand  Smiley
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Re: Achetez vos Grands Crus (vin) en Bitcoins
by
Waremis
on 29/11/2019, 14:09:12 UTC
Jusqu'à lundi , 17% de cash back en crypto sur le site https://ryturn.com/btcwine/ pour chaque achat d'une caisse de la cuvée Bitcoin!

Avec Ryturn vous n'achetez plus, vous investissez pour les fêtes de fin d'année!
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Re: Is there anyway to buy alcohol online with bitcoin?
by
Waremis
on 29/11/2019, 13:59:37 UTC
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There are some vineyards with such a good reputation, that you do not buy actual existing wine but you buy (reserve) the wine to be made few years in the future. Then they are stored by these purchasers for the next few years and then sold once again to the final customers on auctions. This is one of the ways people make money by investing in alcohol.

Maybe it would be worth to give a try (even for purely academic purposes), to make a bet like this:

1. Buy XX bottles of such wine for BTC (even if the wine would be stored at someone's else wine cellar)
2. Sell the wine to these final customers on auction
3. Compare the final value of the wine and BTC.


The process you are mentioning (reserve the wine for the future) is called "En primeur" of "wine futures". It is a method of puchasing wines and invest before the wine is bottled.
It is very popular in Bordeaux area and this service is provided by Bordeaux Negociant (you can't buy Classified Growths at the Estate directly).

Purchasing to a Bordeaux Negociant ensures traceability and pristine strorage conditions, which are crucial in the wine industry.

Our companies (Lasserre & Papillon for B2C and btc-wine.com for B2B) are the only one Bordeaux Negociant to accept crypto currency as payment.

Fine wine are a great asset to diversify you portfolio into a tangible one (It could hedge crypto's market fluctuation as a tangible USDT!)

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Re: Is there anyway to buy alcohol online with bitcoin?
by
Waremis
on 07/11/2019, 11:45:21 UTC
Yes it is true! We are thinking about selling spirits on btc-wine.com or on a dedicated website  Wink

your site has a very beautiful designer, well i saw the price of this wine:



and he is very expensive, making wine price calculations + freight price for my country + paying customs from my country, Is a car price. but I believe that for those who live in france it may be more beneficial to buy the wines on your site.

Thank you for the compliment!
Indeed, fine wines are sometimes very expensive.
Latour 2005 is probably one of the best wine in the world and our sourcing (direct from Bordeaux) guarantee a perfect traceability.
Fine wine often increase in value over time. In the same time , the wine quality improve with age! So tricky  Cheesy
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Re: Is there anyway to buy alcohol online with bitcoin?
by
Waremis
on 07/11/2019, 11:37:54 UTC
I'm kidding with you? why do you want to buy alcohol with bitcoin? You can buy more altcoin / coins with bitcoin, why do you need to buy alcohol with bitcoin, you can use bitcoin for good things, I really don't know what you are buying bitcoin for but I suggest you buy altcoin / coins with bitcoin to get profits by trading

Some people wand to take advantages of their previous investment. They just want to enjoy in a more tangible way  Smiley
Some people want to diversify their investment portfolio. Why not investing in alternative assets such as Fine Wine, Art or gold to hedge crypto's market fluctuation?
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Re: Is there anyway to buy alcohol online with bitcoin?
by
Waremis
on 14/10/2019, 13:24:23 UTC
up from beyond the grave  Cheesy

https://www.btc-wine.com

BTC Wine, based in Bordeaux, France, proposes a range of the most prestigious wines in the world by the case.

Our fine wines are packed in original wooden cases and shipped throughout the world.

Very interesting! I don't have good knowledge about wine, but seems that you have some best wines available. I'm curious about international delivery. Can we face problems in customs? For example, as I know, only very limited amount of alcohol can pass customs.
Whoo....$233.59 per bottle is kind of steep (for me, since I don't drink or collect wine), but that's probably more than affordable for wine enthusiasts with a penchant for bitcoin collectibles.  Very nice!

I don't drink at all, so I won't be buying a bottle.  I'm curious as to how good it is.  Maybe if someone purchases a bottle and does the unthinkable thing of opening it they can report back here.
Well, good wine have it's price and it's not for everyone's pocket. But $ 239 for a bottle of wine isn't something very expensive. If you check prices, some wines can cost $1000 or obviously much more. But if you're not sommelier, you won't see big difference between these wines
We deliver in more than 30 countries were customs are not too strict or were there are international agreements (EU, Hong Kong...) or were we have local partners for custom clearance (US..).
If you have special demand for another country, do not hesitate.
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Re: Is there anyway to buy alcohol online with bitcoin?
by
Waremis
on 12/10/2019, 15:06:25 UTC
Yes it is true! We are thinking about selling spirits on btc-wine.com or on a dedicated website  Wink
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Re: Is there anyway to buy alcohol online with bitcoin?
by
Waremis
on 11/10/2019, 07:44:36 UTC
For collectors and wine lovers we propose an exceptional limited edition case of fine wine:

Bitcoin la Cuvée ® is available in two of the most prestigious appellations in France, Margaux & Saint-Emilion Grand Cru, packed in original mix wooden case of 6 bottles numbered from 1 to 1440 each.

There will be only 480 cases, already available (delivery from mid October in 30 countries in the world)

https://www.btc-wine.com/btc-wine-selection/bitcoin-la-cuvee-mix-case-2017-193.html

HODL as long as you can … if you are able to resist the urge to taste it!

When Gold 2.0 meet Red Gold  Grin

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Re: Implantation du Bitcoin en France
by
Waremis
on 11/10/2019, 07:32:10 UTC
Tu as voulu dire Europe de l'Est et pas Scandinave j'imagine.
Car Scandinave et illégal ça ne rime pas très bien  Wink

De toute façon l'argument en lui même n'est pas valable puisque les transactions illégales représentent une partie infime du réseau. Il y a d'autres cryptos pour ça.
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Re: Achetez vos Grands Crus (vin) en Bitcoins
by
Waremis
on 10/10/2019, 13:10:09 UTC
Sur le site https://ryturn.com/btcwine/ achetez une caisse de la cuvée Bitcoin et obtenez 8% de cash back en crypto  Grin
Offre limitée en stock et valable jusqu'au 13 novembre!

J'en profite pour vous présenter https://ryturn.com
C'est une jeune plateforme en ligne qui vous permet d'obtenir des cashbacks en investissement (BTC et ETH pour l'instant; puis dans un avenir proche, d'autres cryptos,trackers or, pétrole etc...) suite à l'achat de produits sélectionnés pour des campagnes éphémères.
Ryturn rend l'adoption et l'accessibilité au marché des cryptos plus facile en permettant de réaliser des micro-investissements sans effort!

Avec Ryturn vous n'achetez plus, vous investissez!
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Re: BTC Wine
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Waremis
on 04/09/2019, 13:09:19 UTC
No thanks  Huh
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Re: BTC Wine
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Waremis
on 28/08/2019, 08:03:11 UTC
Here is the description of Margaux as you can find on the back label of the bottle. Guaranteed effect!

"On an exceptional gravelly block soil, we have created a great wine, finding the key to roundness and a bit of concentration.

Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot lead to a perfectly well balanced wine which express an undeniable proof-of-work.

As its structure allows, you can HODL this wine for decades (ideally in cold storage)

This wine will reach its ATH in about 20 years."

More information on https://www.btc-wine.com/

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Re: BTC Wine
by
Waremis
on 01/08/2019, 15:25:07 UTC
Here is the description of Saint-Emilion Grand Cru as you can find on the back label of the bottle. Guaranteed effect!

"Located on the best terroir of Saint-Emilion, Merlot and Cabernet Franc plots produce an impressive fine wine.

This is gentlemen!

The aromas of fresh red fruits mixed with notes of sweet spices will bring your taste buds to the moon.

As its structure allows, you can HODL this wine for decades (ideally in cold storage)

This wine will reach its ATH in about 10 years."


More information on https://www.btc-wine.com/

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Re: Achetez vos Grands Crus (vin) en Bitcoins
by
Waremis
on 30/07/2019, 14:32:48 UTC
Voici le descriptif du Saint-Emilion Grand Cru (que vous pourrez évidemment retrouver sur la contre-étiquette):

"Located on the best terroir of Saint-Emilion, Merlot and Cabernet Franc plots produce an impressive fine wine.

This is gentlemen!

The aromas of fresh red fruits mixed with notes of sweet spices will bring your taste buds to the moon.

As its structure allows, you can HODL this wine for decades (ideally in cold storage)

This wine will reach its ATH in about 10 years."


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Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre
by
Waremis
on 30/07/2019, 13:33:09 UTC
A priori plus de 300 000 Btc ont bougé en quelques heures.

C'est StarenseN.

Plus sérieusement je resterai toujours admiratif des mecs qui ont les couilles de faire des virements de 50K BTC en une fois  Cheesy.

Certainement parce ce que justement ce ne sont pas forcement leurs BTC  Cheesy
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Re: BTC Wine
by
Waremis
on 30/07/2019, 10:58:36 UTC
Now if it had rare European craft beers I would be all over this site, but I am not a big wine guy.

BTC Wine is only dedicated to wine, as its name suggests.
But it would be a great idea to extend our offering to rare craft beers & spirits, maybe in another website!

For the rest, if you are not a big wine guy, there is no obligation to drink the wine:

Fine wine is an alternative investment which can hedge crypto’s market fluctuation. A kind of tangible USDT  Cheesy


Very great project. If you need e-commerce team such as marketing development, community management, bounty management, feel free to contact me.

Thanks for you support. At this time, we already have a great e-commerce team but we appreciate your proposal.
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Re: Achetez vos Grands Crus en Bitcoins
by
Waremis
on 25/07/2019, 07:36:30 UTC
Conseil Wink

Je mettrais le mot vin dans le titre, car je venais de lire est pas moyen de trouver dans la recherche.


Sinon l'idée est pas mal, car dans quelque année ça peut se boire ou se revendre surtout si le prix du BTC est bien élevé.
Bravo.


Merci pour le conseil! En effet ça facilite la recherche  Wink


Pardon, je n'avais pas trouvé cette page la.

Très déçu de ne pas pouvoir goûter. Je n'ai jamais acheté de vin auprès du producteur/Vigneron dans toute ma vie sans goûter, et j'ai déjà acheté des bouteilles bien plus chères.

Je pense que ton produit s'adresse surtout au bitcoiner et pas aux amateurs de vin qui passeront leur chemin. Dommage, je me serais laissé tenter après une dégustation si la qualité était bonne.

Bonne continuation

Malheureusement nous ne sommes pas vignerons et il nous est difficile de faire déguster une micro-cuvée produite à seulement 1440 exemplaires!


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Re: Achetez vos Grands Crus en Bitcoins
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Waremis
on 23/07/2019, 16:21:37 UTC
Salut asche!

Les infos sont pourtant sur le site, voici un lien:
https://www.btc-wine.com/btc-wine-selection/bitcoin-la-cuvee-mix-case-2017-193.html

Malheureusement pas de dégustation possible pour ce genre de micro-cuvées.
Pour autant soyez rassurés, les vins sont produits, assemblés, élevés et mis en bouteilles dans 2 propriétés prestigieuses de Margaux et Saint-Emilion Grand Cru, Château Marojallia et Clos Dubreuil.
Tout est légalement indiqué sur la contre-étiquette évidement.

A bientôt!
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Re: BTC Wine
by
Waremis
on 22/07/2019, 15:24:25 UTC
No sooner said than done!
We feed on your feedbacks! Thanks  Wink