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Re: Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/ Limx Dev/ Am I unban material (The honeymoon guy) ??
Even Though I hate copy pasta, you are actually one of the cases I would side to unban. we don't know each other but I took the time to read through all of this thread and you are a valuable member of the community - you are a dick for copy pasting and maybe a double dick for not reading the rules, but the good far outweighs the bad.
Yes I learnt my lesson.
Believe me, I'll be a much better member from now on (if my ban get uplift into a sig ban).
Did you sent PM to theymos or hilariousandco for your case?
I hope you should get the chance.
I hope you should get the chance.
I did message @Theymos and @hilariousandco a few times about my ban appeal,
I guess they must be very busy, plenty of things going on the forum right now.
Update : the bounty is still available for whoever wants to prove me wrong in my statement (see 1st post for T&C).
However the Escrow is quite impatient and gave me up to the end of the month before returning the funds.
Regards
Bounty $200- Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/Limx Dev/ Am I next ?(The honeymoon guy) ?
~snip~
3) I have checked, I didn't plagiarize any other message.
So I spent the time, I have read through all my messages from 2018/2017/2016 and 2015 (i stopped searching past jan2015) and couldn't find any posts that even remotedly look plagiarized.
As a matter of Fact I'll give $200usd to whoever can find a plagiarised message in that time frame (2018/2017/2015) Yogg has agreed to be Escrow, i'll fund him shortly (24h/48h).
The French moderator Halab volunteer to be the referee in the event of a post being brought forward as plagiarised.
As this has been the case in my previous thread (locked) about messages that were not plagiarised, just poorly written (like this example brought by Xal0lex , and explained as not plagiarized by Vit05)
3) I have checked, I didn't plagiarize any other message.
So I spent the time, I have read through all my messages from 2018/2017/2016 and 2015 (i stopped searching past jan2015) and couldn't find any posts that even remotedly look plagiarized.
As a matter of Fact I'll give $200usd to whoever can find a plagiarised message in that time frame (2018/2017/2015) Yogg has agreed to be Escrow, i'll fund him shortly (24h/48h).
The French moderator Halab volunteer to be the referee in the event of a post being brought forward as plagiarised.
As this has been the case in my previous thread (locked) about messages that were not plagiarised, just poorly written (like this example brought by Xal0lex , and explained as not plagiarized by Vit05)
Bounty still available for whoever wants to prove me wrong.
Proof of funding :
Unlocking condition :
Both Yogg (French trusted escrow) and Halab (French modo) have to agree that it is a plagiarism and not just a "quote" omission.
Since you are french, and in the even of someone finding something they claim is plagiarism, I kindly ask that you get Halab's (french modo / staff) opinion before releasing the funds.
Thanks
Thanks
Good luck to everyone
Re: Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/ Limx Dev/ Am I unban material (The honeymoon guy) ??
Thank you all for the support message and the feedback (positive and negative ones).
I am trying to find hilariousandco 's pgp key,
Has it been published anywhere ?
I did search the forum and also on google.
Regards
I am trying to find hilariousandco 's pgp key,
Has it been published anywhere ?
I did search the forum and also on google.
Regards
Re: Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/ Limx Dev/ Am I unban material (The honeymoon guy) ??
I hope this question is not too dumb: Is copying content from another website also considered plagiarism?
If yes, i found only one post from July 2017 that clearly got copied.
Copied: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1782724.msg20085279#msg20085279
Original content: http://www.etudes-fiscales-internationales.com/media/02/00/1590489700.pdf
Though i want to say that every other post seems to be written in OP's own words with no signs of plagiarism or spam.
If i may share my opinion about this case: a signature ban should be enough.
If yes, i found only one post from July 2017 that clearly got copied.
Copied: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1782724.msg20085279#msg20085279
Original content: http://www.etudes-fiscales-internationales.com/media/02/00/1590489700.pdf
Though i want to say that every other post seems to be written in OP's own words with no signs of plagiarism or spam.
If i may share my opinion about this case: a signature ban should be enough.
Hi, there is no such thing as a dumb question.
This "message" has already bring brought forward and deemed not to be a plagiarism,
At best a mistake not using " "
What I write in french is :
"I am not in any of the 16 below cases
1)
2)
3)"
...
See this part of my very first message on top of this thread
SNIP~
As this has been the case in my previous thread (locked) about messages that were not plagiarised, just poorly written (like this example brought by Xal0lex , and explained as not plagiarized by Vit05)~SNIP
As this has been the case in my previous thread (locked) about messages that were not plagiarised, just poorly written (like this example brought by Xal0lex , and explained as not plagiarized by Vit05)~SNIP
Thanks
Re: Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/ Limx Dev/ Am I unban material (The honeymoon guy) ??
Let me first admit I didn't read through all the related topics. But from what I've read, I don't think this should lead to a permban.
As far as I know, the plagiarism bans got so strict only because of many users spamming the forum with other people's text to earn money (or more recently Merit). On any other forum I know, users don't get banned if they copy some text that can help someone else, and it's a pretty common thing to do since the beginning of the internet. But on any other forum I know, posts don't lead to direct earnings, so it's not a big problem there.
Of course the classic "everybody else does it too" is not an excuse, but I think it's worth to differentiate between illiterate spammers who use this forum as an ATM, and real users who slip somewhere.
Note: I don't know guigui371 at all, and I can't read French.
As far as I know, the plagiarism bans got so strict only because of many users spamming the forum with other people's text to earn money (or more recently Merit). On any other forum I know, users don't get banned if they copy some text that can help someone else, and it's a pretty common thing to do since the beginning of the internet. But on any other forum I know, posts don't lead to direct earnings, so it's not a big problem there.
Of course the classic "everybody else does it too" is not an excuse, but I think it's worth to differentiate between illiterate spammers who use this forum as an ATM, and real users who slip somewhere.
Note: I don't know guigui371 at all, and I can't read French.
Thanks LoyceV
I did do a copy and paste, Suchmoon found it back in october
The message you need to read is here : proof i plagiarised
I hope you will still feel the same "I could potentially be un-banned"
cheers
Re: Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/ Limx Dev/ Am I unban material (The honeymoon guy) ??
COPIED:
FROM:
I am not a historian, but it looks like you might have gotten this backwards. I am looking at a 2014 calendar, and May 12 is actually after February 27. FROM:
The OP's post appears to actually be the one that was plagiarized.
haha good spotting.
But anyway, I definitely didn't write the part in english, I have given an explanation in the message above.
It definitely comes from someone else, but i was not trying to pass it as my own writings.
Even if you aren't part of any signature campaign that time there is no excuse for the plagoarism you have done. A lot of newbies who aren't part of any sig campaigns are permabanned because of plagiarism why should the exempt or have another view towards you? Also if you think about it you still did plagiarism in order for you to earn money in the forum via airdrop which makes no difference in your line of reasoning. I don't know what's the extent of theymos when he meant "case to case" but I don't think he will be accepting all the appeals he receives in the forum.
Thanks for you opinion, as per the "title" of the thread 2 people have been unbanned in the past 3 weeks. I'm asking if i can be the 3rd.
Re: Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/ Limx Dev/ Am I unban material (The honeymoon guy) ??
I think this could be the reason. You have not mentioned a real source:
One of the link mentioned there takes to this thread but nothing similar there:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0
COPIED:
FROM:
One of the link mentioned there takes to this thread but nothing similar there:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0
COPIED:
-snip-
7. You said 20% interest per year, do I have to wait 1 year to get the PoS interest?
No. PoS blocks will be generated after you hold some coins in your wallet for certain period of time. For MintCoin the minimum requirement is 20 days. If you move around the coins (for example send to other wallet and then send back), the time will reset for those moved.
8. The PoS generated coins, are they eligible for new PoS block generations?
Yes. After maturity (50 confirmations), the coins will move from "Stake" to "Balance". Once the PoS generated coins in "balance", they will be the same as all other coins, and are eligible for future PoS generations.
-snip-
7. You said 20% interest per year, do I have to wait 1 year to get the PoS interest?
No. PoS blocks will be generated after you hold some coins in your wallet for certain period of time. For MintCoin the minimum requirement is 20 days. If you move around the coins (for example send to other wallet and then send back), the time will reset for those moved.
8. The PoS generated coins, are they eligible for new PoS block generations?
Yes. After maturity (50 confirmations), the coins will move from "Stake" to "Balance". Once the PoS generated coins in "balance", they will be the same as all other coins, and are eligible for future PoS generations.
-snip-
FROM:
-snip-
7. You said 10% interest per year, do I have to wait 1 year to get the PoS interest?
No. PoS blocks will be generated after you hold some coins in your wallet for certain period of time. For bankcoin the minimum requirement is 1 days. If you move around the coins (for example send to other wallet and then send back), the time will reset for those moved.
8. The PoS generated coins, are they eligible for new PoS block generations?
Yes. After maturity (50 confirmations), the coins will move from "Stake" to "Balance". Once the PoS generated coins in "balance", they will be the same as all other coins, and are eligible for future PoS generations.
-snip-
7. You said 10% interest per year, do I have to wait 1 year to get the PoS interest?
No. PoS blocks will be generated after you hold some coins in your wallet for certain period of time. For bankcoin the minimum requirement is 1 days. If you move around the coins (for example send to other wallet and then send back), the time will reset for those moved.
8. The PoS generated coins, are they eligible for new PoS block generations?
Yes. After maturity (50 confirmations), the coins will move from "Stake" to "Balance". Once the PoS generated coins in "balance", they will be the same as all other coins, and are eligible for future PoS generations.
-snip-
Wow this is a good find.
It was definitly not my intention to plagiarism,
If anything i was answering to a question.
Let me put my message in full.
I will highlight in blue the question asked by a member and in red my answer to it.
Les premier Stake sont tombés hier soir à 21h14 !!!
C'est quoi un "Stake"?
Les interêts sont tombés
Par contre j'ai pas compris les 20J
J'ai 5 millions de Mint sur Mintpal il faut que je les remette dans mon wallet pour toucher les interêts ou pas besoin? Car je les ai envoyé il y a 5 jours sur la plateforme
7. You said 20% interest per year, do I have to wait 1 year to get the PoS interest?
No. PoS blocks will be generated after you hold some coins in your wallet for certain period of time. For MintCoin the minimum requirement is 20 days. If you move around the coins (for example send to other wallet and then send back), the time will reset for those moved.
8. The PoS generated coins, are they eligible for new PoS block generations?
Yes. After maturity (50 confirmations), the coins will move from "Stake" to "Balance". Once the PoS generated coins in "balance", they will be the same as all other coins, and are eligible for future PoS generations.
9. What will be generated total PoW coin number and what will be generated PoS coin number?
After 5 weeks PoW mining, there will be 20 billion PoW coins generation. Afterwards there will be some small number of PoW coins continue to be generated (at 1 coin/block). The PoS generation 1st year is 20%, 2nd year 15%, thrid year 10%, and subsequent years will be 5%. If maximum PoS generated (meaning all coins mined held), then after about 20 years there will be about total 70 billion coins generated in total (for both PoW and PoS), which is the max money allowed. In normal situation where there are coins transferred around, the time max money will be reached will be 30-40 years or more.
10. When I transfer some of the coins from my MINT wallet, are they the newest coins or does it disrupt the proof of stake process of my older coins?
Any "moved" coins the pos time (coin-day) will be reset for them. It will not affect other "unmoved" coins in the wallet. The PoS will be generated if there are some coins in the wallet satisfying minimum requirements, and the amount generated will be based on the coin-day the total eligible coins have in your wallet.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0
oui il faut 20J dans ton wallet
tu les bouges d'un wallet à l'autre = de nouveau 20j d'attente
Then i did put the source, if anything i forgot to put the english part between " "
But it is pretty obvious that since i am writing something in english quite technical, followed by the link to the official thread then a quick answer in french my intention was to provide info to the person asking and not fooling them in believing that i wrote the content.
This shouldn't be considered plagiarism, at best a mistake made by someone that was only on the forum for a few weeks/ months and eager to help.
Thanks for this finding, it doesn't qualify for the bounty as i limited it to 2018/2017/2016/2015
Thanks
Re: Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/ Limx Dev/ Am I unban material (The honeymoon guy) ??
As a matter of Fact I'll give $200usd to whoever can find a plagiarised message in that time frame (2018/2017/2015) Yogg has agreed to be Escrow, i'll fund him shortly (24h/48h).
What a stupid comment.
No one is going to wait - they will search now, nothing will be found, you won't fund the escrow... but then you'll claim you offered $200 when you really didn't...
Keep your nasty opinion for yourself,
I wrote this message at 2am French time, Yogg was very likely in bed.
I needed time to get the BTC address from him.
Then in my local time it was 2pm, I need to go home to do the transfer.
Also the memepool is full so the tx are not done in a timely manner.
Now, that Yogg has answered, I Have funded the address (well, the Tx has been initiated, now it is all about confirmation).
As a matter of Fact I'll give $200usd to whoever can find a plagiarised message in that time frame (2018/2017/2015) Yogg has agreed to be Escrow, i'll fund him shortly (24h/48h).
What a stupid comment.
No one is going to wait - they will search now, nothing will be found, you won't fund the escrow... but then you'll claim you offered $200 when you really didn't...
For what it's good for, I can escrow that amount and will release the bounty as said ; "to whoever can find a plagiarised message in that time frame (2018/2017/2015)" involving the banned account.
If you accept, William8062, please send the bounty to my escrow address labeled BTC2 in my escrow thread :
BTC2 : 31p4TPyq3WadF9umDKURZR35aMQTaBbKaZ
However, please bear in mind that I will be hardly available before next sunday to release the bounty (travelling)
Thanks Yogg,
I have funded the address with 0.04BTC
Funds are coming from Binance, the Tx is still "processing" and should be visible soon.
Since you are french, and in the even of someone finding something they claim is plagiarism, I kindly ask that you get Halab's (french modo / staff) opinion before releasing the funds.
Thanks
Edit :
Funds finally showing : https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/31p4TPyq3WadF9umDKURZR35aMQTaBbKaZ
Lone Shark/ ChiBitCTy/ Limx Dev/ Am I unban material (The honeymoon guy) ??
⭐ Merited by Quickseller (1)
Edit 23/05/2019 :
Locking the thread
Many thanks.
Bounty cancelled.
Dear BitcoinTalk community,
In the light of the recent change of Ban policy by Theymos :
I would like to come in front of you to reconsider my case.
Which account I am talking about :
guigui371 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=207818
A.K.A the "honeymoon guy" Copyright Suchmoon
When was I banned ?
-> I was banned in October 2018
Read the full story here : My Legendary account has been banned - I accept my punishment, now what ?
Why was I banned ?
-> I copied, and pasted a message, once in June 2018
Why did you do it ?
-> I didn't have a signature at that time, I needed to make a post to partake into an airdrop, I was in a hurry, I cheated.
(you can read more in this thread that i locked : My Legendary account has been banned - I accept my punishment, now what ? )
What is done is done I can't undo it. I thought that transforming and improving an existing post was ok, turns out it is still plagiarism.
Many things have been proposed as an alternative to permaban.
When I am writing this message only 24% of people want to see permaban to stay permaban.
76% are ok to give a second chance with some kind of counterparty (mainly no more signature). The panel is 136 voters.
I repeatedly said that I would not oppose a permanent sig ban forever (like, no appeal ever !).
Theymos put some kind of frame on how to appeal a permaban : to prove that are "positive" for the forum.
I am not really very established member in the Meta / English part of the Forum.
And to be fair, even in the French board I was very involved in 2014 /2015/2016 but not that much in 2017 and 2018.
However I have dug in my past to find posts that show that I am somehow more a "positive" than a "negative" for the forum.
Here are my arguments :
1) I am a nice guy !
*) I made a newly wed Australian cry
This is who I am, a very nice and generous soul. When i can help I do. I saw someone that needed help, lent money without any counterparty and without any interest
*) back in 2014 I wrote a french topic about VanityGen, way before it became cool.
*) warning people that BTC forks like BTC Diamond and others are somehow risky as you have to expose your private key to get them. That user was asking how to extract the seed of his ledger to claim the BTC diamond
2) I am not a signature spammer
I have only posted 37 messages in 2018 (well, only 8 months of posting).
I have posted about 240 messages in 2017
And a grand total of about 900 messages for 2016/2015/2014
3) I have checked, I didn't plagiarize any other message.
So I spent the time, I have read through all my messages from 2018/2017/2016 and 2015 (i stopped searching past jan2015) and couldn't find any posts that even remotedly look plagiarized.
As a matter of Fact I'll give $200usd to whoever can find a plagiarised message in that time frame (2018/2017/2015) Yogg has agreed to be Escrow, i'll fund him shortly (24h/48h).
The French moderator Halab volunteer to be the referee in the event of a post being brought forward as plagiarised.
As this has been the case in my previous thread (locked) about messages that were not plagiarised, just poorly written (like this example brought by Xal0lex , and explained as not plagiarized by Vit05)
4) I promise I will be a good member
Well this is hard to prove, however I only need to convince one of two persones : Theymos or hilariousandco
Message to Theymos with his PGP key :
I couldn't find hilariousandco's pgp key, maybe you can ask Theymos what i wrote or if you send me your pgp i'll send you the same information.
5) People seems to be keen to give second chance, let me prove you I am worthy.
Let me quote below messages from my previous topic that show that some members are not totally against giving me a second chance.
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This is unenforceable. Nobody in their right mind is going to spend time checking 1000 posts of some asshole to make sure they have only 1 plagiarised post.
I am ok to be stripped out of my signature (forever), I have offered money for people to review my account (it is a one off bounty if they are successful).
--
You could remove their signatures until they've earned x amount of merit. Say, if you're spotted copy and pasting then your signature is removed until you've earned 100 merit or so. I did suggest previously that users have their signature banned until they've shown that they can contribute something here, but since merit has been implemented maybe that would be a good indicator of how much they're actually contributing and it gives them a chance to atone for their sins and get their signature back providing they've contributed something here in the meantime.
Yeah, many would probably just give up. My only issue with this though is I reckon most of them will just hang around like a bad smell trolling and complaining about how unfair it is.
This is also a good idea and I would love to be offered this deal.
--
Much harder than it sounds.
I still disagree with the premise that 1 in 1000 is ok, but if such criteria were implemented then yes, demanding a payment could be a good way to do it. Not going to happen though.
The likelihood of someone plagiarizing only 1 in 1000 AND GETTING CAUGHT is so extremely low that it's just not worth debating. There are many more spamming issues that this forum is facing. The "1 in 1000" offences can be handled by theymos through the usual appeal process.
I have started a bounty, $200 to find a plagiarised for from me from 2018/2017/2016/2015 I will fund it soon.
Conclusion :
If I was given a second chance I'll prove you all that what I did was a silly mistake and that I can be a quality member.
Locking the thread
Many thanks.
Bounty cancelled.
Dear BitcoinTalk community,
In the light of the recent change of Ban policy by Theymos :
There's been no policy change. redsn0w wasn't permanently banned due to several factors which made me think that permabanning him would be a net negative for the forum. Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.
If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.
If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.
I would like to come in front of you to reconsider my case.
Which account I am talking about :
guigui371 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=207818
A.K.A the "honeymoon guy" Copyright Suchmoon
When was I banned ?
-> I was banned in October 2018
Read the full story here : My Legendary account has been banned - I accept my punishment, now what ?
Why was I banned ?
-> I copied, and pasted a message, once in June 2018
Why did you do it ?
-> I didn't have a signature at that time, I needed to make a post to partake into an airdrop, I was in a hurry, I cheated.
(you can read more in this thread that i locked : My Legendary account has been banned - I accept my punishment, now what ? )
What is done is done I can't undo it. I thought that transforming and improving an existing post was ok, turns out it is still plagiarism.
Many things have been proposed as an alternative to permaban.
When I am writing this message only 24% of people want to see permaban to stay permaban.
76% are ok to give a second chance with some kind of counterparty (mainly no more signature). The panel is 136 voters.
I repeatedly said that I would not oppose a permanent sig ban forever (like, no appeal ever !).
Theymos put some kind of frame on how to appeal a permaban : to prove that are "positive" for the forum.
I am not really very established member in the Meta / English part of the Forum.
And to be fair, even in the French board I was very involved in 2014 /2015/2016 but not that much in 2017 and 2018.
However I have dug in my past to find posts that show that I am somehow more a "positive" than a "negative" for the forum.
Here are my arguments :
1) I am a nice guy !
*) I made a newly wed Australian cry
This is who I am, a very nice and generous soul. When i can help I do. I saw someone that needed help, lent money without any counterparty and without any interest
*) back in 2014 I wrote a french topic about VanityGen, way before it became cool.
*) warning people that BTC forks like BTC Diamond and others are somehow risky as you have to expose your private key to get them. That user was asking how to extract the seed of his ledger to claim the BTC diamond
2) I am not a signature spammer
I have only posted 37 messages in 2018 (well, only 8 months of posting).
I have posted about 240 messages in 2017
And a grand total of about 900 messages for 2016/2015/2014
3) I have checked, I didn't plagiarize any other message.
So I spent the time, I have read through all my messages from 2018/2017/2016 and 2015 (i stopped searching past jan2015) and couldn't find any posts that even remotedly look plagiarized.
As a matter of Fact I'll give $200usd to whoever can find a plagiarised message in that time frame (2018/2017/2015) Yogg has agreed to be Escrow, i'll fund him shortly (24h/48h).
The French moderator Halab volunteer to be the referee in the event of a post being brought forward as plagiarised.
As this has been the case in my previous thread (locked) about messages that were not plagiarised, just poorly written (like this example brought by Xal0lex , and explained as not plagiarized by Vit05)
4) I promise I will be a good member
Well this is hard to prove, however I only need to convince one of two persones : Theymos or hilariousandco
Message to Theymos with his PGP key :
Code:
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I couldn't find hilariousandco's pgp key, maybe you can ask Theymos what i wrote or if you send me your pgp i'll send you the same information.
5) People seems to be keen to give second chance, let me prove you I am worthy.
Let me quote below messages from my previous topic that show that some members are not totally against giving me a second chance.
Second chances can be given and you can argue that the punishment is harsh, but at the moment the rules are pretty clear that if you're caught plagiarising then it's a permaban. Once we start making exceptions for people it just opens up a huge can of worms and then everyone else who's had a ban will come out of the woodwork and complain it's not fair to them and people who are banned in the future will use this case as an example why they should be given another chance.
PM theymos or cyrus and make your case to them and maybe they will remove it. I'm not against second chances but there needs to be some consistency so it's fair to all. Hopefully signature bans could be issued in cases like this instead and people can keep their accounts, but at the moment I just wish people would stop plagiarising content so these bans aren't even needed in the first place and it's truly a sad state of affairs that they are.
I said that I would be okey for a signature ban.PM theymos or cyrus and make your case to them and maybe they will remove it. I'm not against second chances but there needs to be some consistency so it's fair to all. Hopefully signature bans could be issued in cases like this instead and people can keep their accounts, but at the moment I just wish people would stop plagiarising content so these bans aren't even needed in the first place and it's truly a sad state of affairs that they are.
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You could argue that Legendaries should know better. I think if we allow them a free pass on certain things then lower-ranked users would then complain that they're being unfairly punished. I think the only exception I'd be ok with is if they had their signature removed/banned and they lose their ability to earn via it here. We could maybe look at just letting the community handle copy and pasters with negative feedback like like we do with scams, but sadly most ICO campaigns don't care about negative feedback and they'd still be able to get away with this behaviour which isn't ok.
You could argue that Legendaries should know better. I think if we allow them a free pass on certain things then lower-ranked users would then complain that they're being unfairly punished. I think the only exception I'd be ok with is if they had their signature removed/banned and they lose their ability to earn via it here.
This. Take their signatures and avatars away and see how many of them are actually dedicated to the forum with no financial incentive. I'd guess this would be equivalent to permaban for 90% of them.We could make a criteria 1 copy and paste per 1000 good posts. Applied to all.
This is unenforceable. Nobody in their right mind is going to spend time checking 1000 posts of some asshole to make sure they have only 1 plagiarised post.
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You could remove their signatures until they've earned x amount of merit. Say, if you're spotted copy and pasting then your signature is removed until you've earned 100 merit or so. I did suggest previously that users have their signature banned until they've shown that they can contribute something here, but since merit has been implemented maybe that would be a good indicator of how much they're actually contributing and it gives them a chance to atone for their sins and get their signature back providing they've contributed something here in the meantime.
I'd guess this would be equivalent to permaban for 90% of them.
Yeah, many would probably just give up. My only issue with this though is I reckon most of them will just hang around like a bad smell trolling and complaining about how unfair it is.
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Although I would expect a bot could easily be coded to run their entire post history against google for matches.
Much harder than it sounds.
They could pay for this if they want to not get banned or pay for manual review. I dont expect most would mind paying 0.1 btc for review and keeping their account.
I still disagree with the premise that 1 in 1000 is ok, but if such criteria were implemented then yes, demanding a payment could be a good way to do it. Not going to happen though.
I mean we are talking 1 in 1000 posts. Not real ico pump teams and scammers fucking the board up.
The likelihood of someone plagiarizing only 1 in 1000 AND GETTING CAUGHT is so extremely low that it's just not worth debating. There are many more spamming issues that this forum is facing. The "1 in 1000" offences can be handled by theymos through the usual appeal process.
Conclusion :
If I was given a second chance I'll prove you all that what I did was a silly mistake and that I can be a quality member.
~snip~
If we're doing this we should probably add the honeymoon guy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056278.0
The excuse is about as credible at those other two and nobody found any other signs of copypasta yet.
~snip~
If we're doing this we should probably add the honeymoon guy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056278.0
The excuse is about as credible at those other two and nobody found any other signs of copypasta yet.
~snip~
Hi Suchmoon,
Thanks for putting my case forward or at least membering it.
In my thread I welcomed the idea of getting a permanent ban of signature. If my permapeal was successful.
I dont mind if it make my account worthless without a signature. I dont intend to sell it.
As most of my posts are in French. I did agree to pay for someone fluent in FR and EN to review my posts and check if I am a spammer and or a shit poster. I agreed to pay this person, or to pay a fine or to give to a charity. or to
I obviously understand than posting here in this thread (ie outside of my ban appeal thread) is considered at ban evasion. However my message is about my appeal and limited to meta and not with the purpose of upgrading my account
Re: My Legendary account has been banned - I accept my punishment, now what ?
@OP
the fact you said this
"I would pay 0.1BTC to get my account reviewed by a french speaker (what about the french modorator ?, he is unbiased, we never exchanged a MP nor have a conversation in any of the french topic, he has no loyalty to me) and check that on the 1236 post, 99% of them are not ICO scams / copy and paste / off topic..."
I feel you are 99% likely to be a good guy. I am actually working on devising a good way to sort the wheat from the chaff and bringing value to trusted members here who work to keep the board clean and working nicely.
I think if we are all reasonable we can all reach the result we want without losing any net positive members.
The thing I disliked the most was people seemingly happy and gloating at legends getting banned.
the fact you said this
"I would pay 0.1BTC to get my account reviewed by a french speaker (what about the french modorator ?, he is unbiased, we never exchanged a MP nor have a conversation in any of the french topic, he has no loyalty to me) and check that on the 1236 post, 99% of them are not ICO scams / copy and paste / off topic..."
I feel you are 99% likely to be a good guy. I am actually working on devising a good way to sort the wheat from the chaff and bringing value to trusted members here who work to keep the board clean and working nicely.
I think if we are all reasonable we can all reach the result we want without losing any net positive members.
The thing I disliked the most was people seemingly happy and gloating at legends getting banned.
Just a precision, i didn't check the BPIP befoe writting my previous message.
Tt turns out that i did send a very small amount of merit to Halal for his work as moderator and trying to deter fake french translation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4628772.msg41821431#msg41821431.
However, he didn't send me any merit.
I'm ok to pay 0.1BTC for any french speaking person to review my account and give his opinion about me.
(i'll only pay the 0.1BTC if an admin says that the outcome will be used to state on my situation. Don't rush in doing it and claim the prize if this has no value to the admins).
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I feel you are 99% likely to be a good guy.
Well, i try to be a good guy, on the forum and IRL :
It is a little bit off-topic but I have been a Rotarian for 10 years now (i started at 22 !!).
I'm raising money for Parkinson (mainly street appeal with a bucket but also via BTC), to schools/kids about healthy choice and against bullying.
I've just organised a duck race (and even sold 1 duck/ticket using BTC, i need to improve this for next year) ! that gathers hundred of participants and raised $15k (nzd) for School bullying, kids well-being and education.
This weekend i'm marshaling for free an event about E-vehicule, my slaray being given to the local Ronald McDonald house.
I tutor for free about crypto, whoever reach to me to learn.
The list is long .....
But yes, like every human i make mistake.
And i did copy and paste (with alteration and some of my own words see here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056278.msg47242836#msg47242836 ) a message, once.
Cheers
Re: My Legendary account has been banned - I accept my punishment, now what ?
If you can really prove you didn't do it for financial reasons you can try to ask theymos about it.
Legends should be allowed one silly mistake if they really are net positive over all. I am sure now you see how easy to lose 4 years work you will not do it again.
I see some more legends getting banned.
I would give you another change because I think if it really was only 1 time and you have made 1200 other good posts over 4 years then okay. Perhaps I knock you back to hero or snr and take away your sig for a year and make clear no more chances.
The fact most of your posts are french makes it hard to review your post history.
Anyway good luck on this.
I am not going to lie, there was an airdrop involved (i usually don't do airdrop / sigs). But i have been a customer of Paymium from 2013/2014 i wanted to take part of this one to show support. Legends should be allowed one silly mistake if they really are net positive over all. I am sure now you see how easy to lose 4 years work you will not do it again.
I see some more legends getting banned.
I would give you another change because I think if it really was only 1 time and you have made 1200 other good posts over 4 years then okay. Perhaps I knock you back to hero or snr and take away your sig for a year and make clear no more chances.
The fact most of your posts are french makes it hard to review your post history.
Anyway good luck on this.
I believe that legends should have a free pass as well.
I would be happy to be knocked down one or two level
Inded, this is the issue with being french, my posts are mostly french. But isn't it a beautiful language ?
Thanks for your words, feels good to have someone supportive and not poking me in the eyes with a stick !
The likelihood of someone plagiarizing only 1 in 1000 AND GETTING CAUGHT is so extremely low that it's just not worth debating. There are many more spamming issues that this forum is facing. The "1 in 1000" offences can be handled by theymos through the usual appeal process.
I would pay 0.1BTC to get my account reviewed by a french speaker (what about the french modorator ?, he is unbiased, we never exchanged a MP nor have a conversation in any of the french topic, he has no loyalty to me) and check that on the 1236 post, 99% of them are not ICO scams / copy and paste / off topic...
The odds are low, but eh, i got caught, so it is not that low. Should i feel lucky to be the one in a million ?
Why would you even be on this forum just a few hours before you're going on honeymoon? Doesn't make any sense to me. If I was going on a vacation that day this forum would be the least of my worries, especially if you hadn't got everything planned or booked. This just sounds like another variation of the classic I was under some stress/pressure excuse.
I can't post images (yet), and I am not sure I want to dox myself by posting my flight tickets for everyone to see.
But if it removes me from your "list" of silly excuses for being ban, i would gladly send you a PM with pictures of the tickets, itinerary, and even the honeymoon video if you want
As i explained, this project (the BCIO), is a project that i wanted to back and support and take part of, i did took 5 minutes to write/copy a message to partake to the airdrop. I don't know why it has been classified as a shit-thread on the forum. We are talking here about an innovative Fintech, involved in the BTC since 2010 and wiling to make a BTC decentralized exchange.
No one has yet answered my other question :
Since i have been banned, do i have to say goodbye to the forum forever ? or can i have an alt and be an active member again ?
Re: My Legendary account has been banned - I accept my punishment, now what ?
Reply to my previous post,
I did find this from Theymos.
I have a feeling that my request (remove perma ban) will not be granted
What about my other question :
Can i stick around and start again from scratch if i stick to what i said below :
Note that you can't have a signature unless you reach Jr. Member or buy a Copper Membership.
It would really piss me off to get banned (again !) in 1 year because i made an alt (william8062) to escape my perma-ban (now that i know the rule, i know that Ban escaping is punished by a ban !)
I did find this from Theymos.
I mostly agree with hilarious's posts. The plagiarism was exactly the same offense as any member of the typical spammer flood, with exactly the same mindset: "I want money -> I need to make x posts with y words to make money -> the easiest way to do that is to copy/paste something from elsewhere", with complete disregard for your own integrity, the health of the forum, the ongoing discussion, or fairness in crediting the actual author. If someone copy/pasted something that was amazingly high-quality and on-topic, I'd understand more (though you'd still get banned), but almost always people copy the first thing that they find on Google. To be so lazy that you won't even make up your own low-quality post, but instead save a few minutes by importing some garbage from the wider Internet, is a massive insult to this forum's community, and is proof that at least in that moment the only thing you cared about was money-making.
I don't believe in a "strict rule of law"; even if it's written somewhere that "copy/paste = permaban", I'm willing to relax that on occasion. If you're going to be a net positive to the forum going forward, then I probably want you here, even if you've made past mistakes. But someone who at any point copy/pastes garbage like this has proven that they have an utterly broken mindset when it comes to the forum, and I have a really hard time believing that such a person will be a net positive going forward.
I don't believe in a "strict rule of law"; even if it's written somewhere that "copy/paste = permaban", I'm willing to relax that on occasion. If you're going to be a net positive to the forum going forward, then I probably want you here, even if you've made past mistakes. But someone who at any point copy/pastes garbage like this has proven that they have an utterly broken mindset when it comes to the forum, and I have a really hard time believing that such a person will be a net positive going forward.
I have a feeling that my request (remove perma ban) will not be granted
What about my other question :
Can i stick around and start again from scratch if i stick to what i said below :
I will not take part of bounty/signature campain ever (please someone quote this message).
And i will keep in my signature that i got ban for plagiarism (please quote me again!).
Quoted and archived.And i will keep in my signature that i got ban for plagiarism (please quote me again!).
Note that you can't have a signature unless you reach Jr. Member or buy a Copper Membership.
It would really piss me off to get banned (again !) in 1 year because i made an alt (william8062) to escape my perma-ban (now that i know the rule, i know that Ban escaping is punished by a ban !)
Re: My Legendary account has been banned - I accept my punishment, now what ?
You are giving up on your legend account for that??
I would not give up so fast.
Well, i tried, no one except you is keen to give me the benefit of the doubt or lessen my punishment. I would not give up so fast.
Why did you even copy and past that shit you could have written it yourself in 2 seconds.
I explained it on a previous post, i was in a hurry and super stress, it was hours before going to my honeymoon trip and not everything was planned/organised/bookedA legend account of this age deserves much more consideration than these shit bots and pure sig pumping scammers
Have you ever copy and paste before?
Indeed, and no, i don't believe i have copied in pasted in the past.Have you ever copy and paste before?
I think it is harsh. This account should only be locked down until mods hear from theymos himself. Legend accounts should have full context of their entire history here. If you have done some good for this forum in 4 years one stupid error like this should be punished perhaps by rank reduction down to senior or perhaps no banners for 2 years. Or something.
I think so too
Theymos has clearly said copy and paste is not a perm ban in all cases. We are not robots here. Depends on the context.
Theymos also said this:- Plagiarism: If you copy some text from somewhere, then you should have a good reason for it, and you must link to the source. Doing otherwise is plagiarism. Changing a few words around doesn't matter. If we find that you plagiarized, then you absolutely will be permanently banned, even if we find it years after you did it.
Also, to be fair, (wrote it in a previous message on this thread), i never really read the rules (unofficial + written after i signed up, and located in a part of forum i alsmost never go), i was just on the forum and behaving to what i though was normal behavior.
This guy must have been suffering some kind of breakdown to copy and paste that pile of shit. It is garbage anyone could spew in 3 seconds or less. He must be kicking himself potentially losing a legend account over that. I bet he would never do it again if was reduced to snr. Even reduced to full but to lose your account fully is crushing. All your posts gone your entire history deleted.
Indeed it was a very stressful time, no i won't do it. Yes i feel stupid.
I've never heard of this legend and has a very low post count but still he may have done some important work here in the past.
I don't post much in the english part of it. But i have 1236 posts I do have a few quality posts (highlighted in previous messages), but i mainly used the forum to read, to exchange with french peers, to give advice and tips based on my experience.
Because it is clearly for financial reasons.
Funny enough i didn't do this campaign for the money, I have been a client/user/customer of paymium since i started BTC (december 2013). They are french like me (cocoricooo !), and i wanted to be part of their new adventure. It is important to states that paymium is one of the first exchange in the world, they started in May 2010.
The 25euros or so that i would have won are not a big sum of money when i look at my real life salary and the saving i have since to being in the crypto sphere since 2013. I also have written in previous messages that i would be happy to forfeit the proceeds of this campaign to a charity.
If i were him i would not give up so soon. There is some hope I think of a slap on the wrist and a kick up the ass but full termination is not something to just accept without doing your best to avoid.
To get the closure i need (perma ban or not, can i have an alt or not), i would donate $50 (us$) to Theymos, or to the forum or to any approved charity if Theymos comes here, and give his final answer on my case.
Re: My Legendary account has been banned, any Modo to tell me why ?
I will not take part of bounty/signature campain ever (please someone quote this message).
And i will keep in my signature that i got ban for plagiarism (please quote me again!).
Quoted and archived.And i will keep in my signature that i got ban for plagiarism (please quote me again!).
Thanks for that.
Now just waiting to hear about admin / modo to see if i can carry on or if i need to go.
cheers
Re: My Legendary account has been banned, any Modo to tell me why ?
Alright,
So it looks like this is a dead-end and that my punishment won't be lifted.
Fine, i still consider that this is a bit harsh (based on my explanation and situation), but, i dont do the rules.
Saying that, can i stick around or do i have to leave the board ?
According to the rules, having an Alt isn't forbidden but Ban escaping is forbidden. So, should i leave forever ?
I understand this rule if the banned account is a scammer, spread hate messages, sell weapons, drugs, child materials, malware...
In my case, would it be too much ask to use this account to participate again on the forum ?
I am ok to agree to a couple of conditions if you guys deem them necessary :
I will not take part of bounty/signature campain ever (please someone quote this message).
And i will keep in my signature that i got ban for plagiarism (please quote me again!).
Can please a general moderator, or an admin let me know if i can use this new account ?
Thanks
So it looks like this is a dead-end and that my punishment won't be lifted.
Fine, i still consider that this is a bit harsh (based on my explanation and situation), but, i dont do the rules.
Saying that, can i stick around or do i have to leave the board ?
According to the rules, having an Alt isn't forbidden but Ban escaping is forbidden. So, should i leave forever ?
I understand this rule if the banned account is a scammer, spread hate messages, sell weapons, drugs, child materials, malware...
In my case, would it be too much ask to use this account to participate again on the forum ?
I am ok to agree to a couple of conditions if you guys deem them necessary :
I will not take part of bounty/signature campain ever (please someone quote this message).
And i will keep in my signature that i got ban for plagiarism (please quote me again!).
Can please a general moderator, or an admin let me know if i can use this new account ?
Thanks
Re: My Legendary account has been banned, any Modo to tell me why ?
The real question is why did i get banned on the 9th of October for a post written on the 13th of June.
Because you posted in a massive shitposting thread back in June and the thread was checked for plagiarism in October.
Ok gotcha
By doing so, would i reassure you i didn't buy the account ?
For someone who claims to have no spare time you're spending a lot of it on walls of text and irrelevant details.
As explained, my wife is away this week.
so i logged in to have a look at the latest news on BitcoinTalk.
But after the 5th of november she is back and bye bye the computer.
And also it is the weekend (i'm 20h ahead of you)
So regarding the ownership of guigui371 (funny i have to justify myself to someone that bought a legendary account for $600
) Ref : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4476583.msg40261507#msg40261507
I know you have stated that you wont use it. But promisses are just promisses
Who says that you are not going to use it tomorrow ?
By the way it is funny that you point the fact that i staked my my address not long ago, when you staked yours just 6 weeks before mine
I can't find the private key of 15rYQrVXTpDAGsyf9QvvJVrc4TuwenKvF1 . (from the watch sale post)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484980.msg7567844#msg7567844
But when i stopped using this address i sent everything to my new address 1A4wdSpiToSc3rw1G4K37jCTAby3yMHTSY
And today i signed a message with 1A4wdSpiToSc3rw1G4K37jCTAby3yMHTSY
Code:
Address:
1A4wdSpiToSc3rw1G4K37jCTAby3yMHTSY
Message:
I belong to guigui371 / William8062
Signature:
HLintBuG4qo5r2CdyKvfGxVUX0TgzLbAjLu4aXChMMPWb5dhfUIcxwvbqX7ICCC7K2dQfuRb5MWIZcKcAobVPsQ=
1A4wdSpiToSc3rw1G4K37jCTAby3yMHTSY
Message:
I belong to guigui371 / William8062
Signature:
HLintBuG4qo5r2CdyKvfGxVUX0TgzLbAjLu4aXChMMPWb5dhfUIcxwvbqX7ICCC7K2dQfuRb5MWIZcKcAobVPsQ=
Then i was like, damn he will be suspicious, i mean he has to be, he made his goal to put me down (just kidding)
So i used google and typed my old addresses (from 2014) into google with Bitcointalk as a keyword.
(yes i am not that tech savy, there is probably a better way to do it).
And i found this post :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=763017.msg8742971#msg8742971
A post where i claim that i have funded 1octE21wzrfBKbHVD9sdts8UvUA3CKYUm for a fun bet between 6 french people.
Using this address : 1LHNgiw3h7ocvAbFHWsi1iUVw6oEMagghs
Then let's sum up,
15rYQrVXTpDAGsyf9QvvJVrc4TuwenKvF1 belongs to guigui371, this undeniable refer the Breitling post.
15rYQrVXTpDAGsyf9QvvJVrc4TuwenKvF1 send all his coins to 1A4wdSpiToSc3rw1G4K37jCTAby3yMHTSY in 2014
Then, guigui371 claims to have used 1LHNgiw3h7ocvAbFHWsi1iUVw6oEMagghs
When you look closely you see that 1LHNgiw3h7ocvAbFHWsi1iUVw6oEMagghs
is being sent $65k (18 BTC at that time) on the august 2017 by 1pEBTytXppWnmSHGTFms46JvtJYVBV19h
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d62a6613e68c8d184fedd2c023d5ebe721db0bee7473f5cdba7ee37783eb35ed
I signed a message using 1LHNgiw3h7ocvAbFHWsi1iUVw6oEMagghs today
Code:
Address:
1LHNgiw3h7ocvAbFHWsi1iUVw6oEMagghs
Message:
This address belongs to guigui371 / william8062 - 27 of october
Signature:
HJCX3nIB2XJL1SZ7IehOKRu+8u2/fY6tFUZBk9n2TGhLbXlilmr5XmrZCA5M0f5ra7Ut1Pd/Blb0Hpg848zZD1M=
1LHNgiw3h7ocvAbFHWsi1iUVw6oEMagghs
Message:
This address belongs to guigui371 / william8062 - 27 of october
Signature:
HJCX3nIB2XJL1SZ7IehOKRu+8u2/fY6tFUZBk9n2TGhLbXlilmr5XmrZCA5M0f5ra7Ut1Pd/Blb0Hpg848zZD1M=
But where is the missing link ? well follow the money
1pEBTytXppWnmSHGTFms46JvtJYVBV19h has been funded ($22k) by 1A4wdSpiToSc3rw1G4K37jCTAby3yMHTSY
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/6528339e9bae62ac23abdf3f794d9f9cdd77b785a355d0de95fb556dfc2f026d
Message signed with 1pEBTytXppWnmSHGTFms46JvtJYVBV19h
Code:
Address:
1pEBTytXppWnmSHGTFms46JvtJYVBV19h
Message:
guigui371 / william8062 owns me 27 october 2018
Signature:
HArAktfL0duP1wNRIv2AOLSB+lPgWQPAHKUzcDQ5foKwKPJsWaAwv3Voy00VsO2moBlMAk/CbtMZ1dNPemWyn4s=
1pEBTytXppWnmSHGTFms46JvtJYVBV19h
Message:
guigui371 / william8062 owns me 27 october 2018
Signature:
HArAktfL0duP1wNRIv2AOLSB+lPgWQPAHKUzcDQ5foKwKPJsWaAwv3Voy00VsO2moBlMAk/CbtMZ1dNPemWyn4s=
So let's sum up.
15rYQrVXTpDAGsyf9QvvJVrc4TuwenKvF1 (guigui371's) sends all its coins to 1A4wdSpiToSc3rw1G4K37jCTAby3yMHTSY I own it
1A4wdSpiToSc3rw1G4K37jCTAby3yMHTSY sends all of its coins (not used since) to 1pEBTytXppWnmSHGTFms46JvtJYVBV19h ( i own it).
Then 1pEBTytXppWnmSHGTFms46JvtJYVBV19h all of its coins (not used since ) $65k to 1LHNgiw3h7ocvAbFHWsi1iUVw6oEMagghs ( i own it)
And guigui371 claims in 2014 that he used it to fund a bet (only 6 people in the bet).
I guess that should do, no ?
Let us know how your appeal goes - it's an important precedent that may affect other users too.
I will,
I don't deny that i have copied and pasted part of a message, one time only in almost 5 years and 1236 messages.
I wasn't aware of the 33 rules of the forum (i discovered them a few days ago thanks to your signature)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657
To be honest the thread was created after i joined the forum. But doesnt change the fact that someone curious would check the rules periodically and check that he is obeying the guidelines.
I don't often go to the english board . / meta
Also those are the unofficial rules, i can't find the official ones.
And it doesnt explicit says that at the 1st (and only) occurence of breaking a rule it is a permanent Ban. (does it ? i really can't find it).
Especially in my case breaking rule 33 one time.
However I do aggree that some rules should be strictly enforced (29, 17, 8 .....)
In my case the modo could have just deleted the message, gave me a big slap on the hand or temporary Ban.
Anyway, nothing more to add, i've ut forward my "plagiarism" and the fact that it is 54% original.
And i have proven that i didn't buy guigui37 (by the way, rule 18 is weird, it allows people to farm accounts !! how is that allowed).
Now it is wait and see.
Cheers
Re: My Legendary account has been banned, any Modo to tell me why ?
^ Then this has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen, copy a message that was just posted. I still don't find a reason, why would you do that.. 
Chances are somebody new owns that legendary account who was bought from the original owner. The new owner maybe is not aware that plagiarism is not allowed here in the forum thus resulting in a ban. Also its weird that an inactive account (Last post was August 2) suddenly tries to go online 9 days after they are banned from plagiarism. It seems to me that William8062/guigui371 has other accounts that is why he tried to went active again.I am the original owner, i didn't buy this legendary account. (see last part of my post)
I wasn't really aware that plagiarism is punnishable by Ban and i my mind, i just used some of the text, changed it and then added more.
But let's not do any philosophy about if or not it was plagiarism.
I started a new job on the 5th of august. This new job is very demanding and i am now working 55h a week (without transport in and out). I have less time to log and do stuff.
Why did i reconnect on the 24ot of october ? Easy i drove my wife to the airport (she is on holiday) and now i am just home at home chilling and i told myself, hey why not going to my BTC board to see how it goes. I could post the plane tickets, but why breaking the pseudo-anonymity for this ? I don't really see the point.
The real question is why did i get banned on the 9th of October for a post written on the 13th of June.
~snip~
I don't think we can talk about a purchased account in this particular case, although it's quite common these days.
He has signed a message to prove ownership of guigui371 account (the BTC address is first used one month after that plagiarized post though)
Looks like he was careless and made a silly mistake, a mistake that he shouldn't have done.
Indeed i made a mistake. I don't deny it.
I signed the message after reading a post from a french guy (i am french too) got hacked and couldnt prove the account was his.
~snip~
I am just giving you one possibility on the question you asked :^ Then this has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen, copy a message that was just posted. I still don't find a reason, why would you do that..
Also keep in mind that his proof of signed message was one of his last post which really does not prove that he was the owner all through out of the existence of the account. He might created this signed message as back up when the original owner will try to recover his/her account.Well i did this because i saw a post in the french board :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4730021.msg42740409#msg42740409
That message was on the 23rd, i read it a few days later and then told myself, fuck i need to do something about it.
This is what i wrote :
bataille pas, tu n'as aucune change.
Moi je viens de faire la manip d'indiquer une mon address btc dans la partie META
Je ne me sert pas tant que ca de mon compte legendary mais ca me ferais chier de me faire hacker et de recommencera zero
Moi je viens de faire la manip d'indiquer une mon address btc dans la partie META
Je ne me sert pas tant que ca de mon compte legendary mais ca me ferais chier de me faire hacker et de recommencera zero
Which basically translate into
Forget about your account, you have no chance of recovering it.
I just stacked my btc address on the meta part.
I don't really use my legendary account but i would be gutted to get hacked and start from scratch.
Well, just a clarification the fact i wrote "my legendary account" doesnt mean that i have other accounts.
I do not have any other accounts. I will gladly put the 4BTC (see below) on an escrow to be given to whoever prove i have multiple accounts.
(see, i made a silly mistake by coping and pasting, surely you guys are more intelligent than me and can find out if i have several accounts, it should be easy, no ?) Good LUCK ! 4 BTC for whoever prove i have and use multiple accounts. (not including the William8062 and guigui371)
Finally i am pretty sure that i still have the private key of this BTC address : 15rYQrVXTpDAGsyf9QvvJVrc4TuwenKvF1
Why woud this address matter . ?
Well it is the output address of a double sign deal i did when i sold my Breitling back in june 2014.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484980.msg7567844#msg7567844
But again one could argue that i bought this empty BTC address from the person i bought the legendary account, well, if you follow the BTC it goes all the way to this address : 3CBULKBcRfK3BmctDPDi675mJi5tUmo2hm
I am pretty sure that i control this address on my nanoS. But maybe i also bought those 4BTC from the original account.
A bit expensive to buy a legendary, no ?
I have to rush away, i will dig and see if i can find the privKey of 15rYQrVXTpDAGsyf9QvvJVrc4TuwenKvF1 and sign a message with it.
By doing so, would i reassure you i didn't buy the account ? (not that you opinion mister Theb matters to me
)Re: My Legendary account has been banned, any Modo to tell me why ?
Thanks hilariousandco and suchmoon for your answers.
No need to argue more,
I said all i had to.
I will try to ontact said Theymos and Cyrus and will link them to this Thread / topic.
I'm not going to cry over a forum. I can still browswe everything i want using the old account and it doest really cause me any prejudice anyway.
Have a good day, i'm off to work
No need to argue more,
I said all i had to.
I will try to ontact said Theymos and Cyrus and will link them to this Thread / topic.
I'm not going to cry over a forum. I can still browswe everything i want using the old account and it doest really cause me any prejudice anyway.
Have a good day, i'm off to work
Re: My Legendary account has been banned, any Modo to tell me why ?
⭐ Merited by LoyceV (1)
Hi everybody, thanks for digging some of the old message and thank you to suchmoon for showing up here and explaining (much appreciated, thanks).
This message will be a bit long, but since i am limited to 1 message every 6 minutes, i better write it well.
Alright, so know we know why i have been banned. Copy and paste / plagiarism.
I would like to put for the record that i was reported for plagiarism on October the 15th for a single message written on June 13th.
And here is the post that shows it (by suchmoon) :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056278.msg47224299#msg47224299
I am not going to deny it, i cut a corner here.
I remember this post very well as a matter of fact. This Aridrop ( a french one, like me) is something i really dig into.
I have been using paymium for 4 years and really wanted to be part of this airdrop.
Unfortunately mid June was a very stressfull period of the year as i was to depart in the next few hours to a 30 days honeymoon and not everything was sorted. (i can prove and send flight ticket in PM to modo / and admin).
Also, english not being my 1st lenguage i tried to find a message i could both relate to and improve with my own experience.
Funny, on the screenshot, not all of the changes i made are highlighted. We can clearly see that it has been tampered almost to try to convince others that my message was just a pure copy and paste.
Original :
Now is my message, i am going to bold the changes, and bold and use underscore the genuine part i have written.
So indeed, i have copied and pasted the 1st part of the message,
I have checked online for tool to compare the texts ( i was going to do it by hand, but it is just magic what you can do on the internet now).
My text is only 47% copied (one site says 48 and the other one 46) from the original. I don't deny that i took the message of the OP and adapted it to my special case (using paymium for 4 years, knowing crypto for years and not months, and being a user and doing purchases on the platform).
Link :
https://copyleaks.com/compare-embed/compare-two-files/8e99b8d6-e7fc-4c75-9551-feda6e19f0b9/5881960/1/1?key=id6eclbcuCxUSRmGRA7l
See the screenshots of other website comparing both text :
https://thumb.ibb.co/kcLJYA/textcheck1.jpg
https://thumb.ibb.co/gBst0q/textcheck2.jpg
https://thumb.ibb.co/cpfP6V/textcheck3.jpg
So i wrote 53% of my post on true and personal related info.
I must have done a ok/good job for that russian puppet to copy and paste me on medium :
https://medium.com/@vovancher555/a-very-interesting-project-that-i-follow-for-some-time-now-b2d0eddfcb81
So let's sum up, i am a legendary, i have 1236 posts, one post get flagged with a first part copied , modified and pasted and then 54% of genuine written text and that is it ! Banned for life. No slap on the wrist ? no warning . ?
Xal0lex below quoted another message of mine that is a copy and paste of the internet. But, look below.
The link of the original message is here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1782724.msg20085279#msg20085279
It basically say,
"i am asking paymium to wire me 50 000Euros from the disposal of BTC
My case doesnt relate to any of the 16 bullet point"
==> bullet point coming from the link that is quoted in my message !!! https://www.economie.gouv.fr/tracfin/que-faut-il-declarer
So clairly not plagiarism, i am just saying that i am not in any of those cases and i even include the source !
And then i post 2 extra messages on the same thread to explain taxes BTC related. The perfect example of someone helpfull.
To answer a few question asked by members on this thread :
No, this wasn't an alt of me.
I do not have any alternative account.
Just one that i use from time to time (if you look at my hstory, you will see time where i post and then long period without activities).
and this one
AM vs PM. It tripped me too at first. The original had not been edited - I fetched that info too:
https://i.snag.gy/csNWvf.jpg
Legendaries do stupid shit all the time, and a purchased/hacked Legendary is not the same as someone who genuinely participated in the forum for 2-3 years.
I didnt buy this account, i have been the only user for 4 years and 9 months of guigui371 and this is the only account i ever had.
It is a bit offensive to write what you wrote but it is fine.
I could prove it if i had to, just need to find a BTC address i have written on one of my posts (unedited post) and sign a message with it.
So let's sum up.
I did copy a message, i changed some of the words to relate to me, i added some genuine content and 53% of the resulting message is original.
(damn !!! i know heaps of Whitepaper that have way less original content compared to the BTC WP).
I am ready to appologize, i am ready to donate all the BCIO coins (converted to BTC) that i will get from that airdrop to a charity (why not the Binance charity thingy they just started).
I have been on this forum for almost 5 years, wirtting 1236 messages (not all of them are great i agree).
I have done one Tutorial about how to use VanityGen on the french board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664082.msg7487945#msg7487945
I have helped someone to repay there debt https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659146.msg9042288#msg9042288
I mean, if i don't get my account, it is fine. I will be a bit gutted, this is life, i will move on.
But i feel it could do with a second chance, don't you guys believe in second chance in live ?
Look at my trust setting / feedback : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=207818
Looking forward to see the outcome.
Cheers
This message will be a bit long, but since i am limited to 1 message every 6 minutes, i better write it well.
Alright, so know we know why i have been banned. Copy and paste / plagiarism.
I would like to put for the record that i was reported for plagiarism on October the 15th for a single message written on June 13th.
And here is the post that shows it (by suchmoon) :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056278.msg47224299#msg47224299
I am not going to deny it, i cut a corner here.
I remember this post very well as a matter of fact. This Aridrop ( a french one, like me) is something i really dig into.
I have been using paymium for 4 years and really wanted to be part of this airdrop.
Unfortunately mid June was a very stressfull period of the year as i was to depart in the next few hours to a 30 days honeymoon and not everything was sorted. (i can prove and send flight ticket in PM to modo / and admin).
Also, english not being my 1st lenguage i tried to find a message i could both relate to and improve with my own experience.
Funny, on the screenshot, not all of the changes i made are highlighted. We can clearly see that it has been tampered almost to try to convince others that my message was just a pure copy and paste.
Original :
Code:
A very interesting project that I follow for some time.
A team that builds confidence and promises a good future for this cryptocurrency.
I have shared a maximum of the project to help as I can, hoping that it will help a maximum and will be able to evolve this project.
I discovered the blockchain for several months, I discovered little by little its power, but it is with this kind of project that I really see its potential. Blockchain.io is a major pivot in the use of Blockchain technology.
At the time of writing, we are still in the airdrop stage, the hardest has been done! If you read this message before the end of the airdrop you can join it by .......End of message errased by suchmoon....
A team that builds confidence and promises a good future for this cryptocurrency.
I have shared a maximum of the project to help as I can, hoping that it will help a maximum and will be able to evolve this project.
I discovered the blockchain for several months, I discovered little by little its power, but it is with this kind of project that I really see its potential. Blockchain.io is a major pivot in the use of Blockchain technology.
At the time of writing, we are still in the airdrop stage, the hardest has been done! If you read this message before the end of the airdrop you can join it by .......End of message errased by suchmoon....
Now is my message, i am going to bold the changes, and bold and use underscore the genuine part i have written.
A very interesting project that I follow for some time now.
A team that builds confidence and promises a good future for this cryptocurrency. I have been using Paymium for 4 years now. And all my purchase and sells were seamless.
I have shared a maximum of the project to help as I can, hoping that it will help a maximum and will be able to evolve this project.
I discovered the blockchain for several years, I discovered little by little its power, but it is with this kind of project that I really see its potential. Blockchain.io is a major pivot in the use of Blockchain technology.
At the time of writing, we are still in the airdrop stage, the hardest has been done! If you read this message before the end of the airdrop, should really jump in.
This project is going to be big !!! The French Fin-tech will be big in the European space.
Everybody is talking about decentralised exchanges.
Those are the exchange for 5 to 10years from today.
What we need are exchange that are well built, with good liquidity, instutional approval. New features.
All of this is included in the new Blockchain project.
I love the auctions and the liquidity network option.
Also, a good plus is the long and short position as well as the peer to peer lending cross users on the platform.
Good luck and show the word how we do it in France !
A team that builds confidence and promises a good future for this cryptocurrency. I have been using Paymium for 4 years now. And all my purchase and sells were seamless.
I have shared a maximum of the project to help as I can, hoping that it will help a maximum and will be able to evolve this project.
I discovered the blockchain for several years, I discovered little by little its power, but it is with this kind of project that I really see its potential. Blockchain.io is a major pivot in the use of Blockchain technology.
At the time of writing, we are still in the airdrop stage, the hardest has been done! If you read this message before the end of the airdrop, should really jump in.
This project is going to be big !!! The French Fin-tech will be big in the European space.
Everybody is talking about decentralised exchanges.
Those are the exchange for 5 to 10years from today.
What we need are exchange that are well built, with good liquidity, instutional approval. New features.
All of this is included in the new Blockchain project.
I love the auctions and the liquidity network option.
Also, a good plus is the long and short position as well as the peer to peer lending cross users on the platform.
Good luck and show the word how we do it in France !
So indeed, i have copied and pasted the 1st part of the message,
I have checked online for tool to compare the texts ( i was going to do it by hand, but it is just magic what you can do on the internet now).
My text is only 47% copied (one site says 48 and the other one 46) from the original. I don't deny that i took the message of the OP and adapted it to my special case (using paymium for 4 years, knowing crypto for years and not months, and being a user and doing purchases on the platform).
Link :
https://copyleaks.com/compare-embed/compare-two-files/8e99b8d6-e7fc-4c75-9551-feda6e19f0b9/5881960/1/1?key=id6eclbcuCxUSRmGRA7l
See the screenshots of other website comparing both text :
https://thumb.ibb.co/kcLJYA/textcheck1.jpg
https://thumb.ibb.co/gBst0q/textcheck2.jpg
https://thumb.ibb.co/cpfP6V/textcheck3.jpg
So i wrote 53% of my post on true and personal related info.
I must have done a ok/good job for that russian puppet to copy and paste me on medium :
https://medium.com/@vovancher555/a-very-interesting-project-that-i-follow-for-some-time-now-b2d0eddfcb81
So let's sum up, i am a legendary, i have 1236 posts, one post get flagged with a first part copied , modified and pasted and then 54% of genuine written text and that is it ! Banned for life. No slap on the wrist ? no warning . ?
Xal0lex below quoted another message of mine that is a copy and paste of the internet. But, look below.
Does that fit?
Copy:
Original:
Copy:
1° Lutilisation de sociétés écran, dont lactivité nest pas cohérente avec lobjet social ou ayant leur siège social dans un Etat ou un territoire qui na pas conclu avec la France une convention fiscale permettant laccès aux informations bancaires, identifié à partir dune liste publiée par ladministration fiscale, ou à ladresse privée dun des bénéficiaires de lopération suspecte ou chez un domiciliataire au sens de larticle L. 123-11 du code de commerce ;
2° La réalisation dopérations financières par des sociétés dans lesquelles sont intervenus des changements statutaires fréquents non justifiés par la situation économique de lentreprise ;
3° Le recours à linterposition de personnes physiques nintervenant quen apparence pour le compte de sociétés ou de particuliers impliqués dans des opérations financières ;
4° La réalisation dopérations financières incohérentes au regard des activités habituelles de lentreprise ou dopérations suspectes dans des secteurs sensibles aux fraudes à la TVA de type carrousel, tels que les secteurs de linformatique, de la téléphonie, du matériel électronique, du matériel électroménager, de la hi-fi et de la vidéo ; -Snip-
2° La réalisation dopérations financières par des sociétés dans lesquelles sont intervenus des changements statutaires fréquents non justifiés par la situation économique de lentreprise ;
3° Le recours à linterposition de personnes physiques nintervenant quen apparence pour le compte de sociétés ou de particuliers impliqués dans des opérations financières ;
4° La réalisation dopérations financières incohérentes au regard des activités habituelles de lentreprise ou dopérations suspectes dans des secteurs sensibles aux fraudes à la TVA de type carrousel, tels que les secteurs de linformatique, de la téléphonie, du matériel électronique, du matériel électroménager, de la hi-fi et de la vidéo ; -Snip-
Original:
1° Lutilisation de sociétés écran, dont lactivité nest pas cohérente avec lobjet social ou ayant leur siège social dans un Etat ou un territoire qui na pas conclu avec la France une convention fiscale permettant laccès aux informations bancaires, identifié à partir dune liste publiée par ladministration fiscale, ou à ladresse privée dun des bénéficiaires de lopération suspecte ou chez un domiciliataire au sens de larticle L. 123-11 du code de commerce ;
2° La réalisation dopérations financières par des sociétés dans lesquelles sont intervenus des changements statutaires fréquents non justifiés par la situation économique de lentreprise ;
3° Le recours à linterposition de personnes physiques nintervenant quen apparence pour le compte de sociétés ou de particuliers impliqués dans des opérations financières ;
4° La réalisation dopérations financières incohérentes au regard des activités habituelles de lentreprise ou dopérations suspectes dans des secteurs sensibles aux fraudes à la TVA de type carrousel, tels que les secteurs de linformatique, de la téléphonie, du matériel électronique, du matériel électroménager, de la hi-fi et de la vidéo ;
2° La réalisation dopérations financières par des sociétés dans lesquelles sont intervenus des changements statutaires fréquents non justifiés par la situation économique de lentreprise ;
3° Le recours à linterposition de personnes physiques nintervenant quen apparence pour le compte de sociétés ou de particuliers impliqués dans des opérations financières ;
4° La réalisation dopérations financières incohérentes au regard des activités habituelles de lentreprise ou dopérations suspectes dans des secteurs sensibles aux fraudes à la TVA de type carrousel, tels que les secteurs de linformatique, de la téléphonie, du matériel électronique, du matériel électroménager, de la hi-fi et de la vidéo ;
The link of the original message is here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1782724.msg20085279#msg20085279
It basically say,
"i am asking paymium to wire me 50 000Euros from the disposal of BTC
My case doesnt relate to any of the 16 bullet point"
==> bullet point coming from the link that is quoted in my message !!! https://www.economie.gouv.fr/tracfin/que-faut-il-declarer
So clairly not plagiarism, i am just saying that i am not in any of those cases and i even include the source !
And then i post 2 extra messages on the same thread to explain taxes BTC related. The perfect example of someone helpfull.
To answer a few question asked by members on this thread :
I would want to know why the original post was deleted. If it was deleted by the person behind the account, maybe that is an alt of the OP and he just reposted what he originally wrote.
No, this wasn't an alt of me.
I do not have any alternative account.
Just one that i use from time to time (if you look at my hstory, you will see time where i post and then long period without activities).
and this one
I have a weird feeling about this, could it be some kind of setup?
Look closely, Hirochifaa is brand new account with just one post which was removed/nuked. Both posts are created within 7 minutes which could possibly allow you to edit the first post, right?
Why would a legendary account copy a message posted just minutes ago, it makes no sense. Isn't it too obvious?
Look closely, Hirochifaa is brand new account with just one post which was removed/nuked. Both posts are created within 7 minutes which could possibly allow you to edit the first post, right?
Why would a legendary account copy a message posted just minutes ago, it makes no sense. Isn't it too obvious?
AM vs PM. It tripped me too at first. The original had not been edited - I fetched that info too:
https://i.snag.gy/csNWvf.jpg
Legendaries do stupid shit all the time, and a purchased/hacked Legendary is not the same as someone who genuinely participated in the forum for 2-3 years.
I didnt buy this account, i have been the only user for 4 years and 9 months of guigui371 and this is the only account i ever had.
It is a bit offensive to write what you wrote but it is fine.
I could prove it if i had to, just need to find a BTC address i have written on one of my posts (unedited post) and sign a message with it.
So let's sum up.
I did copy a message, i changed some of the words to relate to me, i added some genuine content and 53% of the resulting message is original.
(damn !!! i know heaps of Whitepaper that have way less original content compared to the BTC WP).
I am ready to appologize, i am ready to donate all the BCIO coins (converted to BTC) that i will get from that airdrop to a charity (why not the Binance charity thingy they just started).
I have been on this forum for almost 5 years, wirtting 1236 messages (not all of them are great i agree).
I have done one Tutorial about how to use VanityGen on the french board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664082.msg7487945#msg7487945
I have helped someone to repay there debt https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659146.msg9042288#msg9042288
I mean, if i don't get my account, it is fine. I will be a bit gutted, this is life, i will move on.
But i feel it could do with a second chance, don't you guys believe in second chance in live ?
Look at my trust setting / feedback : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=207818
Looking forward to see the outcome.
Cheers