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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
Guys, I've been silent for a long time, but you guys have been arguing for over 20 pages, and the person who understands is the one who avoids arguing in general. You've wasted 20 pages without any benefit, and both teams are right, and each has its justifications, theories, evidence, and orientations. For those who argue, there are moderators, and if there was something worth arguing about, you would have found responses. I hope we focus on what the thread was created for. Thank you for all your efforts, and my regards.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
From puzzle 135, did anyone find a partial match of more than 6? 
why go for puzzle 135 its many many many many many times harder than 69 , 71 ...... 
Puzzle 135 has known public key, and as a result other methods are available to find the solution.
Meaning, with servel thousands of GPUs specifically as you talk cheapest cost then 0.20 in hour as Retired coder tell, so why you didn't hunt the 135 or 140 as proven public keys and the method to solve is already invented and here ??
i think this will be faster than anyone and high profitable
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
I call this: script kiddies with resources.
I mean,
Except for the part where I wrote all the software from scratch
Except for the part where I crowdfunded all the funds starting from zero dollar.
Except for the part where I delt with the GPU providers.
From where I stand, I call this shit talking with zero info
This is not a Controversy, bro. All other solvers, like{RetiredC}, that use fewer numbers of GPUs than the massive one you use, release the faster +120bit code for now. Do you know this?
Do you know that he made all that you but he invented a new algorithm SOTA
I think you made a mistake
Why are you all so angry here? 
Well, people have the opportunity to use farms - it's their business. Here, no one is obliged to anyone, a person wants - he posts a program for everyone, or an idea for implementing a program, if he doesn't want - he doesn't post it, it's strictly everyone's business. On the contrary, we should be glad that there are people who manage to find the keys)
Well, people have the opportunity to use farms - it's their business. Here, no one is obliged to anyone, a person wants - he posts a program for everyone, or an idea for implementing a program, if he doesn't want - he doesn't post it, it's strictly everyone's business. On the contrary, we should be glad that there are people who manage to find the keys)You are 100% right about that {anyone, a person wants - he posts a program for everyone, or an idea for implementing a program, if he doesn't want - he doesn't post it, it's strictly everyone's business.}, but do you think the puzzle creator does? I think you catch me; we just contribute together
Get one of them to sit next to you while you program the ECDLP solver.
Here I am, Abdullah, sitting in a cafe right now.
In Minutes Bro
No impresive and doesn't care after 67 and 68 solved.. apreciated to Retired Coder and all coder who share their weapon and method to this community.. no greedy AF
Can you rephrase ?
By another words you need to make something to the community, in one line, just without play in words
Guess How
I dont think I owe anyone anything.
That being said, I think I've contributed quite a bit to this thread, dont you think ?
if you think that RetiredC was owe to anyone or wait something for anyone you was wrong as he made contribute to community on two ways first release the code he use in solving the hardest and tell even with codes that we need massive amounts of GPUs to be 100% sharp and direct and second he make some small puzzles all of us enjoy that we was connected and all in fin congrats the solver and move on but if you think you contributed to community when you tell us that is purely random brute forcing using serval thousands of GPUs, mining farm to solve the puzzles, thank you, you add nothing
and if you think that if we don`t know that if we do like what you did maybe from like months we could race on 101 right now, brother that's not work like this
you owe to puzzle creator
you owe to coder that work hours and days work harder to give you some point start from if you code from scratch as you tell that your start point another one end point soo you owe him/her
you owe this thread, by the way
We definitely don’t see the world the same way
100% Sure
I think you’re too far gone sadly 🥹
Be proud to be the first one to join my ignore list
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
I call this: script kiddies with resources.
I mean,
Except for the part where I wrote all the software from scratch
Except for the part where I crowdfunded all the funds starting from zero dollar.
Except for the part where I delt with the GPU providers.
From where I stand, I call this shit talking with zero info
This is not a Controversy, bro. All other solvers, like{RetiredC}, that use fewer numbers of GPUs than the massive one you use, release the faster +120bit code for now. Do you know this?
Do you know that he made all that you but he invented a new algorithm SOTA
I think you made a mistake
Why are you all so angry here? Well, people have the opportunity to use farms - it's their business. Here, no one is obliged to anyone, a person wants - he posts a program for everyone, or an idea for implementing a program, if he doesn't want - he doesn't post it, it's strictly everyone's business. On the contrary, we should be glad that there are people who manage to find the keys)
Well, people have the opportunity to use farms - it's their business. Here, no one is obliged to anyone, a person wants - he posts a program for everyone, or an idea for implementing a program, if he doesn't want - he doesn't post it, it's strictly everyone's business. On the contrary, we should be glad that there are people who manage to find the keys)You are 100% right about that {anyone, a person wants - he posts a program for everyone, or an idea for implementing a program, if he doesn't want - he doesn't post it, it's strictly everyone's business.}, but do you think the puzzle creator does? I think you catch me; we just contribute together
Get one of them to sit next to you while you program the ECDLP solver.
Here I am, Abdullah, sitting in a cafe right now.
In Minutes Bro
No impresive and doesn't care after 67 and 68 solved.. apreciated to Retired Coder and all coder who share their weapon and method to this community.. no greedy AF
Can you rephrase ?
By another words you need to make something to the community, in one line, just without play in words
Guess How
I dont think I owe anyone anything.
That being said, I think I've contributed quite a bit to this thread, dont you think ?
if you think that RetiredC was owe to anyone or wait something for anyone you was wrong as he made contribute to community on two ways first release the code he use in solving the hardest and tell even with codes that we need massive amounts of GPUs to be 100% sharp and direct and second he make some small puzzles all of us enjoy that we was connected and all in fin congrats the solver and move on but if you think you contributed to community when you tell us that is purely random brute forcing using serval thousands of GPUs, mining farm to solve the puzzles, thank you, you add nothing
and if you think that if we don`t know that if we do like what you did maybe from like months we could race on 101 right now, brother that's not work like this
you owe to puzzle creator
you owe to coder that work hours and days work harder to give you some point start from if you code from scratch as you tell that your start point another one end point soo you owe him/her
you owe this thread, by the way
We definitely don’t see the world the same way
100% Sure
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
Get one of them to sit next to you while you program the ECDLP solver.
Here I am, Abdullah, sitting in a cafe right now.
In Minutes Bro
No impresive and doesn't care after 67 and 68 solved.. apreciated to Retired Coder and all coder who share their weapon and method to this community.. no greedy AF
Can you rephrase ?
By another words you need to make something to the community, in one line, just without play in words
Guess How
I dont think I owe anyone anything.
That being said, I think I've contributed quite a bit to this thread, dont you think ?
if you think that RetiredC was owe to anyone or wait something for anyone you was wrong as he made contribute to community on two ways first release the code he use in solving the hardest and tell even with codes that we need massive amounts of GPUs to be 100% sharp and direct and second he make some small puzzles all of us enjoy that we was connected and all in fin congrats the solver and move on but if you think you contributed to community when you tell us that is purely random brute forcing using serval thousands of GPUs, mining farm to solve the puzzles, thank you, you add nothing
and if you think that if we don`t know that if we do like what you did maybe from like months we could race on 101 right now, brother that's not work like this
you owe to puzzle creator
you owe to coder that work hours and days work harder to give you some point start from if you code from scratch as you tell that your start point another one end point soo you owe him/her
you owe this thread, by the way
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
No impresive and doesn't care after 67 and 68 solved.. apreciated to Retired Coder and all coder who share their weapon and method to this community.. no greedy AF
Can you rephrase ?
By another words you need to make something to the community, in one line, just without play in words
Guess How
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
im curious how many GPU did Bram have?
Several thousand.
Several meaning more than 2
let me guess is your name mean something
if i guess right you really shocked me BANG
im curious how many GPU did Bram have?
Several thousand.
Several meaning more than 2
Congrats, and thank you for clearing the rented GPUs - highly hope their price will come down now that you no longer need them and the bid prices drops
Just in time as I finished polishing all the details of the software for attacking 140.
wait to hear from you and fan of weed and vodoo magic circles
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
According to my theories, which were based on a kind of speculative "magic," the key wasn't even remotely close to anything starting with *bb*. In fact, the *B* range was among the least likely scenarios in my estimations. It feels like a cruel, ironic slap in the face from cryptography itself is a direct insult to all my efforts, ideas, and long hours of contemplation.
FACT and you mean months and days even we can tell years for others ANOTHER FACT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE POOL FOR US {CRYPTOGRAPHERS}
I See... Many pools depending on pure Brute Forcing like it`s race who have money don`t need it, and in another side who have resources to just all on pure Brute Forcing and on the third side we who study the hashes and here and there study keys and come one with many GPUs tell that our chances -1
Soo..., This is Vote To Making Pool For {CRYPTOGRAPHERS} Depending on merge all studying in one place one jar all will benefit from it, I guess something like Brute Forcing groups or pools
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
According to my theories, which were based on a kind of speculative "magic," the key wasn't even remotely close to anything starting with *bb*. In fact, the *B* range was among the least likely scenarios in my estimations. It feels like a cruel, ironic slap in the face from cryptography itself is a direct insult to all my efforts, ideas, and long hours of contemplation.
FACT and you mean months and days even we can tell years for others Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
I was clear about my method since day 1
For some reason people didn’t like it
For some reason people didn’t like it
It's not that, it's just that the main requirement is farms.
I’m sorry I must be in the wrong thread I thought this was a brute force competition.
Thank you for apologizing, and this thread was never about that. Using more computational power doesn't equal any milestone, we all know that here. The point of this is to create tools that, by themselves, represent an improvement.
and we how think of the RetiredCoder As Chilled
I was clear about my method since day 1
For some reason people didn’t like it
For some reason people didn’t like it
It's not that, it's just that the main requirement is farms.
I’m sorry I must be in the wrong thread I thought this was a brute force competition.
Thank you for apologizing, and this thread was never about that. Using more computational power doesn't equal any milestone, we all know that here. The point of this is to create tools that, by themselves, represent an improvement.
I’ll see myself out then I guess
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
@WanderingPhilospher
Well done, whoever found the key
I am hearing rumors it was solved using h160 partial matches running CPU multi-threads in a python script.
really:o this need to study, I can`t see you guys Who talking about sequence search?
and where are you slover tell us something
and @Bram24732 I think as a form of gratitude to the puzzle maker you should have announced the code used and that's up to you in the end - we're here to help each other and there's enough for everyone.
68 done.
Congratulation
Congratulation
Well done, whoever found the key
and where are you slover tell us something
and @Bram24732 I think as a form of gratitude to the puzzle maker you should have announced the code used and that's up to you in the end - we're here to help each other and there's enough for everyone.
The transaction is very critical "Same address in inputs: There are multiple occurrences of the same address in inputs
Descending input timestamps: For transaction with more than 5 inputs — they are ordered by age — that may be due to some specific software usage
Address reuse: The sender uses the same address for receiving and for changing"
as we see "Amount transferred
8.32504844 BTC · 839,564 USD
Size
1,335
Coindays destroyed
231
Weight
2,763
Virtual size
691 vB
Coinbase transaction
No
Witness data
Yes
RBF enabled
No
Lock time
0
Version
2
Fee
8.18293968 BTC · 825,233 USD
612,954.3 sat/B
1,184,645.6 sat/vB"
and this SegWit, this looks like hell for me
Descending input timestamps: For transaction with more than 5 inputs — they are ordered by age — that may be due to some specific software usage
Address reuse: The sender uses the same address for receiving and for changing"
as we see "Amount transferred
8.32504844 BTC · 839,564 USD
Size
1,335
Coindays destroyed
231
Weight
2,763
Virtual size
691 vB
Coinbase transaction
No
Witness data
Yes
RBF enabled
No
Lock time
0
Version
2
Fee
8.18293968 BTC · 825,233 USD
612,954.3 sat/B
1,184,645.6 sat/vB"
and this SegWit, this looks like hell for me
Re: Solving ECDLP with Kangaroos: Part 1 + 2 + RCKangaroo
If one RTX4090 card can do it in +/- 249934 days (68 years). Then eighty RTX4090 cards can do it i in less than a year.
Who taught you mathematics?
249934 days=684 years
with this math, we need +400 4090 GPU to solve the 135 in 1.7 years or something like this, and in half a year but we need to use +1000 GPU
if I'm not wrong this is a hallucination
Code:
r2 = 0xdfb77cd83e2251dc96caad4c45cf98fcf76b8c24aa349c2dbba548029571331f
s2 = 0x352b52b52b52b52b52b52b52b52b52b4e7c1db2bf914fdd54560dc7fb517156e
z2 = Private key for Puzzle #130
s2 = 0x352b52b52b52b52b52b52b52b52b52b4e7c1db2bf914fdd54560dc7fb517156e
z2 = Private key for Puzzle #130
Code:
z2 = 0x33e7665705359f04f28b88cf897c603c9
Code:
r = 0xdb30127de06f6c9d04e4ebc9cdefb93433a37be972db697b21c22724f6cf69d2
s = 0xe759203cae759203cae759203cae7590ddcd6e80d38035c802aef0f1080384ed
z = Private key for Puzzle #135
s = 0xe759203cae759203cae759203cae7590ddcd6e80d38035c802aef0f1080384ed
z = Private key for Puzzle #135
Hi, can you multiply or add r to number and edit s,z after , so what signatures will be valid ?
the question is how RetiredCoder makes this valuable and connected
"r1_1 = 02de97092bfb7c02148a827b4f8b62db1e189a739c77815799df5e6fb35ae88a1f
r2_1 = 02838db77b981db321faf527a830461cfda01aed50d85c345a7b0a8f4e5e4fd3fc
delta = 031e283a9ebc4c50b0a93f27d411e69d0a97aad2a6d4ae26f5725f8b55fb5176f5
delta _k = 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af487e246f4eac90b714b3bd
N- delta _k = 0x22175083b1fc19218d84
r1_2= 03de97092bfb7c02148a827b4f8b62db1e189a739c77815799df5e6fb35ae88a1f
r2_2= 03838db77b981db321faf527a830461cfda01aed50d85c345a7b0a8f4e5e4fd3fc
delta = 021e283a9ebc4c50b0a93f27d411e69d0a97aad2a6d4ae26f5725f8b55fb5176f5
delta _k = 0x22175083b1fc19218d84
PK = 33e7665705359f04f28b88cf897c603c9" I wasted maybe 48 hours coding
,Then, one out of the community claimed the puzzle and didn`t show up.
where are you? Since it seems that the winner is not here, I will explain this riddle.
1. So we have a signature, we should check for weak K1, use kangaroos of course
What's the range for search? Use a hint from the message, 80bit. Fails, it seems K1 is strong.
2. Remember that I posted another signature, take K2, may be K1==K2? No.
So if we have both strong K1 and K2, what it can be?
Remember that ECDSA Signature is vulnerable not only when K1==K2 but also if we know that
K1 has some relation with K2, for example, K2=K1+1 (the simplest case).
How to check it? Remember that R1=G*K1 and R2=G*K2 and we have these R1 and R2 points in signatures, so we can substract: PntDiff = R1 - R2
(and also try R2 - R1) and check if it's G. It's not G, ok, may be the difference is not 1 but more?
We should try to solve PntDiff (both variants) with kangaroos. What's the range? Same, 80bits. And we can solve it, so now we have delta_K.
3. Now calculate, google or ask chatbot to get the formula:
pk = ((delta_k * s1 * s2) + (z2 * s1) - (z1 * s2)) / (r1 * s2 - r2 * s1) [mod n]
That's all!
1. So we have a signature, we should check for weak K1, use kangaroos of course
What's the range for search? Use a hint from the message, 80bit. Fails, it seems K1 is strong.
2. Remember that I posted another signature, take K2, may be K1==K2? No.
So if we have both strong K1 and K2, what it can be?
Remember that ECDSA Signature is vulnerable not only when K1==K2 but also if we know that
K1 has some relation with K2, for example, K2=K1+1 (the simplest case).
How to check it? Remember that R1=G*K1 and R2=G*K2 and we have these R1 and R2 points in signatures, so we can substract: PntDiff = R1 - R2
(and also try R2 - R1) and check if it's G. It's not G, ok, may be the difference is not 1 but more?
We should try to solve PntDiff (both variants) with kangaroos. What's the range? Same, 80bits. And we can solve it, so now we have delta_K.
3. Now calculate, google or ask chatbot to get the formula:
pk = ((delta_k * s1 * s2) + (z2 * s1) - (z1 * s2)) / (r1 * s2 - r2 * s1) [mod n]
That's all!
Honestly, I already suspected that K=1.15 and actually merged in some of the codes I was working on for this mini-puzzle,
but I did not imagine that the duration is related to the programming code of the SOTA theory, but it`s very cool bro, I still study code, Thanks
Hmm, it's strange
Very Strange is that you?
You like to have fun around puzzles.