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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
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abescapital
on 25/07/2017, 00:07:06 UTC
Question

My Qtum is still at https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/qtum_ico is it ok there for now or do I need to move it? Also is there a windows wallet available yet to move it to. Thanks

Someone who was able to withdraw successfully from Bizhonchou should make a guide or something.  Half the questions in slack/forum is how to withdraw ERC token from Biz.

Bizhongchou published their own guide and used exactly that to withdraw. If really is that big of a need if I get a chance I'll put together a video next week.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
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abescapital
on 24/07/2017, 05:09:24 UTC
I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

People can change you know, just because he maybe did something like that once doesn't mean he'll do it again.

I'm all on-board the Qtum project, but that logic is the definition of ignorant. If Bernie Madoff opens a new investment firm, I don't think you'd be so eager to invest. The same principles apply here, if you actually believe what is being said (which I, of course, don't).

Exactly.  This has been hanging over the project for along time now.  Articles like the one above will only continue to pop up as people learn more and more about qtum.  All these bloggers will happen on this story and report on it in hopes that a juicy story will get them more steem dollars, or youtube views.  That's why I feel the matter should be settled sometime in the near future to help the project proceed forward.  If there is so much misinformation and fud out there, then whatever truth will be overtaken at some point. 

It's been a very long time since I saw it but a while back they publicly commented that while he was at Bitbay he did not participate in the scam but obviously how are you going to prove any of that besides he said / she said

Someone posted a while ago that the Qtum team had addressed the issue on Slack, but I did not see the conversation. Another person mentioned that the Qtum team posted a statement on their website regarding the matter, but if it were ever there, it doesn't appear to be there now. I really wish that they were more willing to speak out about the situation because making people guess leads to some cynical explanations on the whole ordeal.

I don't think I said they posted it to their web site. I'm pretty sure that I said he issued a statement when the alligations where first made, which did happen. The only reason it is a big deal because FUDDERS are making it a big deal. I could go the rest of my life without hearing another word of all this BS and be just fine. Don't you guys have anything better to talk about? 

I'm not making any accusations, I clearly said I think they're inaccurate. To not address them, and to pretend like they don't exist is a huge mistake if you want community trust in your project. The cryptocurrency subreddit, for example, views Qtum very badly (most users say that they think it's a scam). Again, I am completely on-board the Qtum project and the amazing work that the devs have done, but I just don't see a way that Western users get over Dai's previous work in BitBay if it's not properly addressed and explained. So far, all I can find through research is the word of David Zimbeck, which certainly is biased in his favor.

Let's not act as if it would be as hard as developing a VM that is compatible with x86 as it is to give a brief summary of Dai's involvement in BitBay. It wouldn't be hard to clear the air here.

They already addressed this a while back. It's just he said she said. QTUM said that while Patrick was at Bitbay he did not participate in the scam. It'll never die down and that Smith & Crown article is very old. People want to throw FUD because they want other projects to succeed. Every coin suffers from it.
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Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin (airdrop) - Pro on-chain scaling
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abescapital
on 23/07/2017, 03:47:43 UTC
If we hold our BTC on an exchange will we get BCC or do we need to hold it in a specific wallet? Sorry if this is posted somewhere just a link would be fine and I can read up

Thanks!
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 22/07/2017, 06:59:41 UTC
Can somebody help me?

I bought qtum in presale via official website  https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/

I want to withdraw them but it says it is not possible yet.
I see that it is already traded on exchanges, so why is it not possible to withdraw tokens?

Thanks

Did you not read the fine print? You can't withdraw till September, though I don't know why you want to withdraw since Qtum is registered as a charity and they've clearly stated on several occasions the tokens are not be considered an investment vehicle. Team Qtum is building their thingy for the betterment of crypto and not interested one iota in lining their pocketbook. Hey, rumor has it that EOS is still looking for some Investard moneys. Check 'em out and report back here once you've donated to their cause as well. Sadly, you may have missed the window of opportunity to invest in ShinCoin by Jeff Ownby, formerly of BFL, but there's always next time.

99% of the ICOs issued have some sort of commentary around not being an investment. It is for legal / securities purpose. Most of the blockchain / smart contract oriented companies specifically outline that given they are a protocol and not necessarily a company in itself.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
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abescapital
on 22/07/2017, 06:58:06 UTC
Can somebody help me?

I bought qtum in presale via official website  https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/

I want to withdraw them but it says it is not possible yet.
I see that it is already traded on exchanges, so why is it not possible to withdraw tokens?

Thanks

Check the email you signed up with because it is possible to withdraw / sell the tokens you have. They've sent out files that explain how to do it. If you did not receive them you should contact customer service because they're actually very, very helpful on the website!
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Re: [IOC][ I/O Digital ] I/O Coin - Blockchain Ecosystem - DIONS - CHAMELEON
by
abescapital
on 19/07/2017, 04:35:45 UTC
Are you guys getting close and will you let all this excitement deter you in any way?

I guess you haven't noticed that the devs haven't bothered to post here in over a week.

I so regret buying this coin. It started going down well before the market bloodbath. I bought because the new release was supposed to be imminent, instead we got twitter posts about community managers. Maybe one of those community managers would like to buy my bag? LMFAO

Hi,

I feel sorry for you that you bought at the top of a wave and just before the BTC breakdown.
There is nothing the team can do for you. Trading is based on your own research and actions. The team does not give any release dates, hype or over promise.
We do give "expectations" or "estimations". Even then traders see that as a hard fact and try to hype themselves. Transparency is a good thing in my opinion but not everybody is ready for this kind of approach. Its in people's nature to read things that are not there or interpret in a way they see fit.

You can say a lot about us not delivering DIONS in a timely way but never say anything about us hyping or promising. After three years of developing no project has done what we have accomplished. We have learned a lot of lessons during three years of development. Yes we have thought we were almost there (even we thought that a year ago) and gave some estimations (because some people keep asking and want to trade and make money, not because they really care about the technology), but as always: In the last 10% of the project you spend 90% of the time.

If you have been closely following us and scroll through the Bitcointalk or even took some time to get into our Slack channel, you would have seen that we update on a regular basis. We update like no other project does. We are a very active team and always close to the community. On a daily basis we are present online and answer all the questions we can. So not posting in here in a week makes you wonder...

Did you take some time to see our video about the release and us showing the wallet (working)?

The team has security, usability and sustainability as top priority. Unlike other projects that release copy/paste wallets or broken Blockchain technology we prefer to test test test and test before we release. What if we release untested and you lose your I/O Coins? What if you transfer a document and it disappears in Blockchain space? How would you feel? We do actually care. "Blockchain" and the unique HTML5 wallet must be a great experience for people using I/O Coin and the features we implemented. So every glitch we see we want out if we feel so. Everything a user can possibly do we want it tested.

You go and find projects that have been self-funded since 2014 and are about to deliver this kind of software in Blockchain. Yes, about to deliver.
Like we said in Slack, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit etc we are in the final stretch and working on the final things. DIONS source code is open source btw so you can check out how far we are.  

A block call is around the corner but only if we feel comfortable releasing it. Again, not promising anything but we are getting close.

If you have any questions please come to slack and see our active 650+ community members (iodigital.io/slack)

Thanks
Richard




Fantastic response. Thank you for responding to the community and keep building one hell of a product. Can't wait to see it!
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 17/07/2017, 13:49:25 UTC
Hello there, do you know if qtum is going to hit any exchange like bitfinex - kraken - poloniex - bittrex, ecc?

Our Main Network hasn't been released yet, and exchanges rely mostly on community requests to list a project. Poloniex told us earlier this year that they simply do not host crowdsales anymore, but they will keep an eye on our project.

With the release of our ERC20 token, participants can now take possession of their Qtum. If they would like to leave them on the exchange, in September, their IOU's will be converted to Main Network tokens.

This ERC20 token gives our participants the ability to withdraw their Qtum from existing exchanges. We realized that people wanted control of their tokens, so this was addressed. The ability for other exchanges to list the project is an added bonus, but we are not actively pursuing any. Two exchanges have shown interest, but there's guarantee this may happen.

Why wouldn't you actively pursue for the western exchanges to list your coin? It doesn't make any sense - it would bring value and liquidity. Will you actively pursue your coin being listed following release of the mainnet in September?   

Exchanges are much more hesitant to list an IOU / ICO that hasn't released a main net yet. Once that happens you can bet that the QTUM team will do what they need to do to maximize value but right now there's no point in rushing the process. Better to have a viable / working product than it is to be arbitrarily listed on an exchange.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 13/07/2017, 23:25:02 UTC
The hype on QTUM certainly has benefitted the price immensely, regardless of scam accusations.

Price is down 65% from the high. I think they've built a legit following based on what they have put together.

1) Have actually released things when they said they were going to. Go out there and look for how many companies have actually done that besides releasing their ICO on time...
2) Incredible transparency.. Published their expenditures for the past several months. Completely unprecedented and something all companies should adopt
3) Continuing to engage in the community and putting their name out three and getting people to consider building on their platform by talking to people on forums, hosting hack-a-thons, attending conferences, etc.

I think they're doing all the right things and I am excited for mainnet launch. Branding / marketing is an important part of every business so the fact that they're doing this as well is just more reason for us to give them credit for continuing to do great things.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 10/07/2017, 03:56:03 UTC
Guys Im from turkey. And I cant buy it from allcoin. Anyone know where can I buy this coin Huh



I am not 100% sure if you can create a new account to buy but your only potential option would be Bizhongchou. Contact their support team and ask them to send you info on how to setup an account.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 08/07/2017, 02:27:19 UTC
What's going on with the price Huh down 30%+.  The market is down in general but why is qtum selling off so heavy?

It's a coin that doesn't really exist yet so you would imagine that it would have a higher beta compared to the other coins out there. If you believe in what they're doing longer term this is just a buying opportunity across all of crypto. Although given btc decision is on Aug 1st we're probably going to see another few weeks of pain before things bounce back materially in any way.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 06/07/2017, 13:49:30 UTC
any estimate on mainnet ?

End of September is the current expectation.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 06/07/2017, 00:06:04 UTC
Spamming QTUM from different accounts is defenitely a redflag. Not gonna even consider this a good coin nor your marketing team - decent.

Have you not read this thread? It's not the official team that is spamming.

We believe it's a coordinated attack, by DDoS'ing our website and sending mass spam messages on Bitcointalk and Slack channels to annoy people.
Don't expect everyone to believe this your makeup story, if you're under attack just as you have claim, then what are you doing to stop it.
Why is it sending the same type of msg to people, why not random msg?

It's pretty clear.. On the day of launch the website went down, got hacked, things were slowed down, etc. all due to the hacks paired with the spamming. I think it's pretty clear that someone is trying to throw some FUD here to scare people away and load up..

Separately for Gleb.. US Investors were actually able to participate in the ICO through Bizhongchou and I can verify this works.

I agree that it's possible, but Team Qtum said that it's illegal for US citizens to partake in the ICO, having defence mechanisms in place to ward off the practice so that they'll be 100% compliant, but with tons of US citizens still partaking in the ICO et al. as I've easily demonstrated, that doesn't say much about their defense mechanisms, eh?

can you participate the EOS ICO ?

seems no American.... Grin

Why is it illegal for an american to participate in the ICO?

Which US law says that americans can;t participate in ICO's lol


It's not just ICOs. The US has some retarded laws regarding international finance in general.
Either way, the only ones responsible for any crimes are those knowingly investing in something they are not allowed to. With crypto it's basically impossible to check the identity of your investors anyways, so QTUM is not to blame whatsoever.

Good point! I guess that's why Qtum sold its token during the ICO ONLY on exchanges who took KYC et al. laws seriously, the exchanges having users' vitals on files prior to allowing them to participate on their platforms. Correct me if I'm wrong if said exchanges are allowing its users to sign up anonymously sans proving who the fuck they are. I want in on some of that action if such is the case.

NEWSFLASH: This just in! I was mistaken.  Cry Chinese exchanges allow every Tom, Dick, Harry, Steven and Patrick to participate on their platforms sans providing proof as to who the fuck they are. In fact, a couple months ago the Chinese government was looking into implementing such course of action where all the exchanges went into panic mode, taking proactive steps. Luckily, the concerns passed over and it's business back as usually with the Chinese government not giving a fuck as to who the users are on the Chinese exchanges. When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong, with apologies for being so fuckin wrong this time. THINK ABOUT IT!

Bizhonchou requires identity verification in order to setup your account and withdraw.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 04/07/2017, 22:13:09 UTC
why the qtum price is went down?

It is just a pre market speculation with IOU tokens on chinese exchanges.
It means nothing

Do you think it will drop on release ?

I don't see any good reason for it to drop on release. Trading volume will increase significantly. It will grow bigger in the West, especially if Poloniex offers it, which I imagine they will. Additionally, most people who bought in at ICO are able to sell now through IOU trading if they would like. It seems to me that there's no reason that anyone who was planning on dumping hasn't already dumped in IOU.

If this thing gets listed on a western exchange I think it easily doubles as long as Patrick & team keep executing on both the code and showcasing the potential of the platform to prospective users / companies. There is clearly a significant amount of interest from Westerners here and I don't know many US citizens that got in..
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 04/07/2017, 07:04:15 UTC
It will be good if the team will stop spamming my inbox with messages, there is a better way to go about this, I have been receiving thesame message about Qtum from different Newbie account on Qtum launch

This isn't the QTUM team. Please spend a few minutes looking through the historical post.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 04/07/2017, 00:08:33 UTC
Spamming QTUM from different accounts is defenitely a redflag. Not gonna even consider this a good coin nor your marketing team - decent.

Have you not read this thread? It's not the official team that is spamming.

We believe it's a coordinated attack, by DDoS'ing our website and sending mass spam messages on Bitcointalk and Slack channels to annoy people.
Don't expect everyone to believe this your makeup story, if you're under attack just as you have claim, then what are you doing to stop it.
Why is it sending the same type of msg to people, why not random msg?

It's pretty clear.. On the day of launch the website went down, got hacked, things were slowed down, etc. all due to the hacks paired with the spamming. I think it's pretty clear that someone is trying to throw some FUD here to scare people away and load up..

Separately for Gleb.. US Investors were actually able to participate in the ICO through Bizhongchou and I can verify this works.

I agree that it's possible, but Team Qtum said that it's illegal for US citizens to partake in the ICO, having defence mechanisms in place to ward off the practice so that they'll be 100% compliant, but with tons of US citizens still partaking in the ICO et al. as I've easily demonstrated, that doesn't say much about their defense mechanisms, eh?

I'll be honest here and say that I do not recall it saying that it was illegal just that you had to go through the Bizhongchou website as opposed to any of the other exchanges.

Again, to be fair, I took the liberty and used the word "illegal" in spite of it probably not been stated by Team Qtum. That said, if it were legal for US citizens to partake in the ICO, they 100% wouldn't have been excluded in the fund raising campaign, ergo I stand by my word choice. Recall, we're talkin' SEC guidelines, hence opting to register in Singapore as a non-profit to circumnavigate various Nation States regulations.

US Citizens were able to participate in the ICO (I got some) but only through the Bizhongchou exchange. All other avenues were closed and I imagine that provider might've been the only one that was certified to transact with US Citizens.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 03/07/2017, 22:08:46 UTC
Spamming QTUM from different accounts is defenitely a redflag. Not gonna even consider this a good coin nor your marketing team - decent.

Have you not read this thread? It's not the official team that is spamming.

We believe it's a coordinated attack, by DDoS'ing our website and sending mass spam messages on Bitcointalk and Slack channels to annoy people.
Don't expect everyone to believe this your makeup story, if you're under attack just as you have claim, then what are you doing to stop it.
Why is it sending the same type of msg to people, why not random msg?

It's pretty clear.. On the day of launch the website went down, got hacked, things were slowed down, etc. all due to the hacks paired with the spamming. I think it's pretty clear that someone is trying to throw some FUD here to scare people away and load up..

Separately for Gleb.. US Investors were actually able to participate in the ICO through Bizhongchou and I can verify this works.

I agree that it's possible, but Team Qtum said that it's illegal for US citizens to partake in the ICO, having defence mechanisms in place to ward off the practice so that they'll be 100% compliant, but with tons of US citizens still partaking in the ICO et al. as I've easily demonstrated, that doesn't say much about their defense mechanisms, eh?

I'll be honest here and say that I do not recall it saying that it was illegal just that you had to go through the Bizhongchou website as opposed to any of the other exchanges.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 03/07/2017, 16:11:28 UTC

can you participate the EOS ICO ?

seems no American.... Grin

I wonder how much the EOS ICO is having a negative effect on the Qtum price right now.  Over 84% of EOS market trading (Yunbi & BTER) is EOS/CNY trading pair. 

I hope the Chinese buyers realize the ICO isn't over and it will go for nearly a full year.

Definitely having an impact.. Almost an inverse correlation between rallies / drops.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 02/07/2017, 22:30:32 UTC
Hey guys,
why is QTUM being traded only on Chinese exchanges. Will it be buyable for the West some time? Or is this a China exclusive coin?

You can buy via Bizhongchou but it's in chinese so if you can figure it out by translating to english it would be possible to deposit Eth and buy some.
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Re: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable PoS Smart Contract Platform - TestNet Live!
by
abescapital
on 02/07/2017, 20:08:21 UTC
Spamming QTUM from different accounts is defenitely a redflag. Not gonna even consider this a good coin nor your marketing team - decent.

Have you not read this thread? It's not the official team that is spamming.

We believe it's a coordinated attack, by DDoS'ing our website and sending mass spam messages on Bitcointalk and Slack channels to annoy people.
Don't expect everyone to believe this your makeup story, if you're under attack just as you have claim, then what are you doing to stop it.
Why is it sending the same type of msg to people, why not random msg?

It's pretty clear.. On the day of launch the website went down, got hacked, things were slowed down, etc. all due to the hacks paired with the spamming. I think it's pretty clear that someone is trying to throw some FUD here to scare people away and load up..

Separately for Gleb.. US Investors were actually able to participate in the ICO through Bizhongchou and I can verify this works.
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Re: [ANN][Qtum] A Scalable POS Smart Contract Platform| $15.6M raised
by
abescapital
on 02/06/2017, 18:44:45 UTC
Where can I get some QTUM? I am in the U.S.

Here's another dude who doesn't have a fuckin clue as to what he's tryin' to invest in, opting to not read a single word of this thread where he would've leant that NO US Investards can invest in the non-profit Qtum which IS NOT an investment vehicle.

You do realize that Americans were able to invest in the ICO as long as it was through the one designated exchange they partnered with for Americans? You just can't trade on the exchanges that are currently offering it..