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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
I have been experimenting for months with popular algorithms like Kangaroo, Baybestep,.. but all have no results, need more efficient algorithms. As the last comment of author Satoshi_Rising he said all addresses belong to the same wallet, this means they have the same master key. Hope some genius will have more ideas.
These algorithms are useless in those puzzles in which the public key has not been revealed, the first on the list with that condition is 135 and yes, without another type of approximation it is practically impossible to solve.Then explain why 1-70 were solved without the pub key.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
🎯 REVISED P71 POSITIONING:
✅ Position: 77.3% ( Success Probability 88.0% )
📍 Target Range: 0x7174 area
🔬 Improved Calibration: Enhanced mathematical modeling
📊 Confidence: Higher precision positioning
🎯 Search Strategy: COVERAGE deployment recommended
Reason for sharing this update:
"The mathematical positioning keeps evolving as I refine the φ-based calculations. This has higher success probability."
✅ Position: 77.3% ( Success Probability 88.0% )
📍 Target Range: 0x7174 area
🔬 Improved Calibration: Enhanced mathematical modeling
📊 Confidence: Higher precision positioning
🎯 Search Strategy: COVERAGE deployment recommended
Reason for sharing this update:
"The mathematical positioning keeps evolving as I refine the φ-based calculations. This has higher success probability."
So anyone want too hash this ? 😅🤔
🚀 ADAPTIVE AI RANGE DEPLOYMENT:
─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
📦 PRECISION: 717BF1E8E60C65E698 → 717D955714BE2A1968
Width: 0.01% (118,059,162,071,741,136 keys)
Surgical precision + AI
📦 BALANCED: 717B2D02DED7C1B1E0 → 717E5A3D1BF2CE4E20
Width: 0.02% (228,903,190,186,990,656 keys)
Optimal balance + AI
📦 SAFETY: 7178CB173103783CC0 → 7180BC28C9C717C340
Width: 0.05% (572,257,975,467,476,608 keys)
Enhanced safety + AI
📦 COVERAGE: 7174D28E64A1A87980 → 7184B4B19628E78680
Width: 0.10% (1,144,515,950,934,953,216 keys)
Maximum coverage + AI
Il try some from that keypace . But im not confidence enough to run it full ... even for the precision keyspace ...
I still dont understand the realistic logical sense 😅🙏
Mybe mr. kTimesG can enlighten me 🤪
This is probably just gonna activate his pissed-off mode. I don't know how many times he has to explain the same thing over and over again.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
Unbelievably unnecessary ^
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
Imagine how much more quickly these keys would be solved if we teamed up resources/knowledge instead of constantly arguing about petty bs. It's embarrassing.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
You are really writing for nothing.
The creator,
- He did not create this puzzle to sue anyone.
- He is not a cryptographer but a high level mathematician and software developer.
- Don't think that he is simple about seeds. (Even the seed examples he uses in software tests are complicated.)
- He played a developer role in wallet creation software.
He has not entered the forum for a long time. Maybe he can come after his camp and trip are over.
A little note to the creator = Finally "ResCU"
The creator,
- He did not create this puzzle to sue anyone.
- He is not a cryptographer but a high level mathematician and software developer.
- Don't think that he is simple about seeds. (Even the seed examples he uses in software tests are complicated.)
- He played a developer role in wallet creation software.
He has not entered the forum for a long time. Maybe he can come after his camp and trip are over.
A little note to the creator = Finally "ResCU"
So how do you know this guy?
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
Does anyone really think the creator of this puzzle didn’t anticipate what would happen with any puzzle under 100 bits? I’m still convinced this was a pre-planned scam. Unless the puzzle’s creator personally convinces me here otherwise.
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The creator was clear of his intentions and even came back to redistribute funds more equally.
Just curious though: What is this pre-planned scam you're convinced of?
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
Take the coins from someone you know and let them know it was you. See if the law says the coins belong to the person with the key. You'll probably be arrested, as is normal for a crime.
What Satoshi said is a philosophical and technical approach to the idea that anyone with your keys can spend them, because that's actually the case. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have ethical and legal implications.
Online casino is "very ethical" business
Playing on poor people souls weaknesses.I have to disagree on this one. People don't HAVE to gamble. If you insert the "people are weak" argument, you would have to get rid of almost everything people genuinely enjoy doing. We need to take accountability for our own actions/choices.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
This is the kind of reasoning used by those who say, "I'm not a thief for stealing his wallet; it's not my fault that the fool fell asleep with his wallet in his hand"
Obviously, it's unethical and immoral.
It's like breaking into a friend's house, seeing his seed, and stealing it, then saying he should have been more careful.
Now that it has no legal implications, that is something else.
Obviously, it's unethical and immoral.
It's like breaking into a friend's house, seeing his seed, and stealing it, then saying he should have been more careful.
Now that it has no legal implications, that is something else.
Satoshi himself kindly disagrees. Whoever has the key, owns the funds. Now, my friend should just use private key 0x01 and transfer his life savings into that address, right? No one will ever touch it.
Last time I checked, it wasn't unethical or illegal to add two numbers together.
What's next, unethical to use quantum computers to break all cryptocurrencies? Seriously? You'd need to have a word with China about how non-ethical it is to break RSA first, since they just did that, before getting slammed by all big tech giants following along.
Take the coins from someone you know and let them know it was you. See if the law says the coins belong to the person with the key. You'll probably be arrested, as is normal for a crime.
What Satoshi said is a philosophical and technical approach to the idea that anyone with your keys can spend them, because that's actually the case. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have ethical and legal implications.
It's clearly unethical/immoral to take anything that belongs to someone else. 'Math' doesn't make it any less of an ethical issue, however, it IS easier to diminish the ethical argument. Most people would quickly return a purse with the money in it if they found it on the ground but have zero issue finding a random key or using a bot to take funds. It seems pretty black and white with blurred lines, which is difficult for me to navigate. If I found some random key with funds in it I would be conflicted. I don't want to be a bad person. There's always someone on the receiving end who would be devastated. For sure it would keep me up at night.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
I would also say that solving 80 bits, with some proper Tame precomputed database (with way less than half a billion DPs) takes much less than 20 seconds, even on a budget GPU. There is a precise balance where having too many DPs (of lower bits) is not beneficial, and having fewer DPs (of higher bits) is better overall.
Yep. But now, let’s say you’ve got a bot with a pre-calculated DP. Puzzle 71 can be solved in, like, 2 seconds on a CPU as soon as the public key pops up. It’s a huge problem if folks ain’t using MARA slipstream, if you ask me.
I also setup sniper bot on vps. But loose on sniping 69 😅. That winner bot is wild ..... and i promise if my bot get it , I will split 50 50 with the solver he he he🤪
How about you just not do that at all?
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
RTX5080 ~ 8200MKeys/s (custom code, not Vanity)
Does your "custom code" actually do H160 in a specific key range (not endo, etc.)? 8.2 Gk/s with only 84 SM sounds too good to believe. Not impossible, though it would be really impressive, if actually true.
Sent you a DM, just check it.
Think you could do this on CUDA?
It's CUDA
Nice man, Can you drop your Github?
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
RTX5080 ~ 8200MKeys/s (custom code, not Vanity)
Does your "custom code" actually do H160 in a specific key range (not endo, etc.)? 8.2 Gk/s with only 84 SM sounds too good to believe. Not impossible, though it would be really impressive, if actually true.
Sent you a DM, just check it.
Think you could do this on CUDA?
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
It was literally designed to be even more solvable by reducing the range and exposing pub keys.
Give me the public key for puzzle 71
No. But I'll give you a dramatically reduced range. Somewhere in there: 400000000000000000:7fffffffffffffffff
Stop complaining about everything and try to find it with us.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
This puzzle gives you an understanding of the beauty of Mathematics. I am very glad that it exists. I think one address will be Mine! There are a huge number of options to search for.
I've been watching everything that's happening here since 2016, all the Ideas that you propose and dispute. Interesting. The Creator has given a field of action, Want to be rich, be the first to figure out how to deal with 16 numbers. Thanks to Him the Creator for His generosity, and to everyone who is trying to find a method that can give wealth for many centuries for all children and children from children.
I've been watching everything that's happening here since 2016, all the Ideas that you propose and dispute. Interesting. The Creator has given a field of action, Want to be rich, be the first to figure out how to deal with 16 numbers. Thanks to Him the Creator for His generosity, and to everyone who is trying to find a method that can give wealth for many centuries for all children and children from children.
While I admire your passion for the puzzle, statistically speaking, you might have better odds of winning the lottery than cracking a 16-number mystery designed to be unsolvable. At least with the lottery, the rules are clear....
What do you mean? There is a 100% certainty a 16 character number can be found. Bram found two within a month of each other, using clear and defined rules eg: math/speed.
I'm not talking about resources. You tailored what I said into a conversation that only existed in your head and then replied to it.
The guy said it was "designed to be unsolvable". It was literally designed to be even more solvable by reducing the range and exposing pub keys.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
This puzzle gives you an understanding of the beauty of Mathematics. I am very glad that it exists. I think one address will be Mine! There are a huge number of options to search for.
I've been watching everything that's happening here since 2016, all the Ideas that you propose and dispute. Interesting. The Creator has given a field of action, Want to be rich, be the first to figure out how to deal with 16 numbers. Thanks to Him the Creator for His generosity, and to everyone who is trying to find a method that can give wealth for many centuries for all children and children from children.
I've been watching everything that's happening here since 2016, all the Ideas that you propose and dispute. Interesting. The Creator has given a field of action, Want to be rich, be the first to figure out how to deal with 16 numbers. Thanks to Him the Creator for His generosity, and to everyone who is trying to find a method that can give wealth for many centuries for all children and children from children.
While I admire your passion for the puzzle, statistically speaking, you might have better odds of winning the lottery than cracking a 16-number mystery designed to be unsolvable. At least with the lottery, the rules are clear....
What do you mean? There is a 100% certainty a 16 character number can be found. Bram found two within a month of each other, using clear and defined rules eg: math/speed.
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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In my opinion, these puzzles were all manually created by their designer and are not derived from a deterministic wallet. This is because there are no visible patterns in these addresses that are typically found in deterministic wallets. I believe that understanding psychology is more important than cryptography in this case. We need to analyze the personal and individual characteristics of the puzzle creator to determine what pattern might have been in their mind when they designed the puzzles.
I think you're gonna get a lot of pushback on this. But lets entertain this nonsense for a second as I too, try to think outside of the box, even if objectively ridiculous.
Lets assume that out of the two-posts the creator made on this forum, you're able to accurately psycho analyze this guy. What then? Whats your next move?
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
Something ticked today... and it's so freaking simple. The "math" also works out, but I'll need some time to implement the end-to-end concept.
All I can say for now is that the kernel's processing 11 GKeys/s on a RTX 3090 and 22.8 Gkeys/s on a RTX 4090.
The main idea is that computing public keys as fast as possible is even faster if they're not moving around blindly, like what happens in Kangaroo. But no one tried to use this effectively. I think this is because on a CPU there's basically zero performance difference, but on a GPU... the speed rockets (not that it wasn't already freaking fast) because the unknown dynamics disappear. Hence, a speed 3 to 4 times higher.
The beautiful thing is to answer this question though: what the hell can one do with such computations. They definitely can't be extracted, right?
But no, this is not about magic splitting methods or reducing ranges. It still requires sqrt(N) total ops, however they run much much faster, and it's also fully deterministic (guaranteed upper bound). Oh, and no worries, it doesn't require amounts of storage the size of our galaxy.
Now, please don't scratch your head, call it BS, or whatever. If you want some hints, try to research some papers on DP alternatives, and move that idea to another algorithm.
All I can say for now is that the kernel's processing 11 GKeys/s on a RTX 3090 and 22.8 Gkeys/s on a RTX 4090.
The main idea is that computing public keys as fast as possible is even faster if they're not moving around blindly, like what happens in Kangaroo. But no one tried to use this effectively. I think this is because on a CPU there's basically zero performance difference, but on a GPU... the speed rockets (not that it wasn't already freaking fast) because the unknown dynamics disappear. Hence, a speed 3 to 4 times higher.
The beautiful thing is to answer this question though: what the hell can one do with such computations. They definitely can't be extracted, right?
But no, this is not about magic splitting methods or reducing ranges. It still requires sqrt(N) total ops, however they run much much faster, and it's also fully deterministic (guaranteed upper bound). Oh, and no worries, it doesn't require amounts of storage the size of our galaxy.
Now, please don't scratch your head, call it BS, or whatever. If you want some hints, try to research some papers on DP alternatives, and move that idea to another algorithm.
Give her to me and I'll try it on my 5090 for you
Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
So you're telling me there's a chance?
lol yeah. it's just a little above 1 / 2**70 for every time you do a H160 and check for a match.
"A little above" meaning insignificantly close to 1, since there's the additional (almost zero) chance that, besides the creator's private key, there might be other keys hashing to the same address. We can't know that, but if does affect the chances (as minimal as it does).
It's also 100% if you ultimately intend to scan all 2**70 keys (assuming the creator isn't trolling).
No, I get it. The thing is, people have solved these keys. Yes, they were smaller ranges and some of the pub keys are already known but as you said, assuming the creator isn't trolling, they will continue to be solved one way or another. I think its just a matter of who wants to dedicate their time/resources to the problem long enough to be successful.
I agree this may be a naive/ignorant way for me to look at it but that's how I'm choosing to perceive it.