Imam jedan mali savjet za tebe: ako ti pisanai sadržaji stvaraju previše frustracija i ne možeš ih podnijeti nemoj ih čitati.

A ako se hoćeš zabavljati otvori si svoj thread pa to radi tamo. Ovaj je za konkretnu temu, a ne za zabavu.

“I am appalled and shocked,” says Erik Voorhees, founder of ShapeShift, a self-custody crypto platform. “All the mainstream economists, everyone on Wall Street, and much of the public, is enamored and fully supportive of this idea that you can create wealth and prosperity by printing money.”

Twenty years ago, such a proposition was laughable. “If you brought it up, people would recall stories of the Weimar Republic,” he said, mentioning Zimbabwe’s 2007 hyperinflation crisis, too. “People started trying it out more in the 2008 financial crisis, and called it Quantitative Easing, which is an amazing twisting of words. It is just creating money out of thin air and buying bonds from the federal government.”

Instead of complaining, Voorhees wants the crypto industry to continue building the alternative financial system that is cryptocurrency, blockchains, and an open decentralized financial system, which he defines as a system to which anyone can connect, so long as they have a computer or phone.

 “It doesn't matter where they were born, it doesn't matter what passport they hold, it doesn't matter what country they're in, it doesn't matter what race or gender they are,” he said. “It is a totally blind and agnostic system, and anyone can interact with it.” Similar to how the internet itself works, he says.

Vidiš kako novac kvari ljude. Imao si sreće u modernoj piramidi, prvi put si vidio malo veće novce i odmah si se razbahatio te počeo druge nazivati idiotima. Tragikomično je da tako najbolje opisuješ sebe, a ne drugoga.

Ovdje imaš video koji će te malo spusti na zemlju: https://youtu.be/N5RKm7_scL4

Što je, ponestalo argumenta? To vam je maksimalni domet? Ako je netko izoliran onda ste to vi - u kultu ljudske gluposti. Kultu u kojem štujete božanstvo brojeva pokraj svojih virtualnih adresa.

Što je, ponestalo argumenta? To vam je maksimalni domet? Ako je netko izoliran onda ste to vi - u kultu ljudske gluposti. Kultu u kojem štujete božanstvo brojeva pokraj svojih virtualnih adresa.

Čovječe... Ja mislio da je antikvark dobio ban, a on je očito bio u karanteni svo ovo vrijeme...

Na ovom topicu ću provesti jedan društveni eksperiment u kojem ću testirati izreku iz naslova i psihološki fenomen da će se ljudi radije odreći razuma nego priznati da su prevareni.

Naime, prvo ću vam dokazati da ste kao kupci bitcoina prevareni od strane njegovih tvoraca - inicijalnih rudara, a nakon toga ću pratiti prihvaćate li taj dokaz ili ga odbacujete kroz razne neutemeljene racionalizacije i tako potvrđujete Twainovu izreku i spomenuti psihološki fenomen.

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It's always good to have some people with different opinions here,even though some of them might be trolls.
I would rather discuss with some anti-bitcoiner,rather than seeing no difference in opinions and no contradictions.
This forum shouldn't become a Bitcoin sect,where all the people see BTC as a religion and scream "Hail Bitcoin!" everyday.

In the below linked presentation, Bitcoin is exposed as a fake investment product, which as such, is a total waste of energy. This also applies to all cryptocurrencies.

Why is bitcoin a fake investment product? Or, to put it another way, how do we even differentiate between real and fake ones. Well, it's easy. In a real investment product, your investment of property or work is invested into something actual, which in the future, can provide you similar benefit. In a fake investment product, your investment is not actually invested into something, but is rather, just transferred from you as a new investor to old investor. Historically, there is no exception to the rule that all such products end up collapsing.

The rest here: https://youtu.be/N5RKm7_scL4

How can you tell if you are the holder of a legitimate market product or a ponzi/pyramid-like product? It's simple. The life cycle of a legitimate market product has three phases. The creation phase, the circulation phase, and the utilization or liquidation phase. The life cycle of a ponzi/pyramid-like product has only two phases. The creation phase and the circulation phase. Let's start with the legitimate products.

Suppose that you bought an iPhone because you think it is cheap and you can sell it for a higher price in the future. That's the circulation phase of the iPhone. Once you sell it to someone, and that person starts to actually use it for its purpose(calls, texting...), iPhone is in utilization phase. Here we need to mention, that it is this phase where the value of the iPhone actually comes from. Meaning, the utilization of a product is the value of the product. When Apple was producing this product that was its creation phase. So the concept of phases in the life cycle of a product is pretty straightforward.

Market products such as dollars or bonds also have three phases. It is just that instead of utilization phase, they have the liquidation phase. Given that both dollar and bonds are debt based products, they operate similarly in the phases, the only difference being that dollar issuers(banks and borrowers) borrow and return goods and services from the public, while bond issuers borrow and return money. When corporations issue bonds and banks new units of dollars via loans, this is the creation phase of these products. Once they are created, the products enter the circulation phase. At the beginning of this phase, the corporations borrow money, while borrowers borrow goods and services from the public. Finally, the liquidation phase occurs when the corporations return money to the bondholders by paying principle, and when the borrowers return goods and services to dollar holders by making the loan payments. Namely, prior to loan payments, borrowers obviously had to give (trade) goods and services to dollar holders in order to get funds for these repayments. This is how the last dollar holders receive goods and services from the borrowers prior to liquidation. After the dollars are liquidated, that is, withdrawn from circulation they are again put into circulation with new loans. With loan repayments they are again liquidated and so on. So, dollars are in constant cycles of creation(loans), circulation(means of exchange) and liquidation (loan repayments). Hence, the three phases. And the same as with iPhone or bonds it is the third phase where the value of this product actually comes from, since liquidation is where the last dollar holders receive goods and services.

Now that we know the phases in the life cycle of legitimate market products, we can examine the illegitimate products. Let's say that you bought membership in a ponzi scheme. This is the circulation phase of that product. The creation phase was obviously when the scheme organizers issued this product. But, unlike in the above cases, these issuers never liquidate this product to pay value to its holders, nor it is utilizable like iPhone. Meaning, this product lacks the third phase, and as such, it is in an infinite circulation phase. In this phase, more recent investors bring in the three-phased market products and trade them for your two-phased product(membership). Once the scheme collapses, you, as the last membership holder, are left with nothing since no third phase exists in which the value is paid or received.

Bitcoin has exactly the same features. It is a two-phased product. Its issuing is phase one. Its circulation in the market is phase two. But given that its issuers never liquidate it to pay value to its holders, nor it is utilizable like iPhone, bitcoin lacks the third phase. As such, it has ponzi/pyramid-like features. Meaning, once you as an investor, brought in the three-phased market products, you are left only with hope that new investors will trade their three-phased products for your two-phased bitcoin. Once new investors stop investing, the scheme falls apart and you are left with nothing expect the digital record of membership.

They are debt based, that is, they have the "borrow-return" instance in their life cycle and that makes them equal. Regarding the rest. It is the taxpayers who provide goods and services in exchange for average Joe's USD when the borrower is the government. In that sense nothing changes since the average Joe receives goods and services when dollars are withdrawn from circulation via government's loan payments.

Dollar is debt based product, just like bonds.